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families out of border patrol custody, into i.c.e. custody, and i.c.e. officers will be doing what they call the processing, helping with medical screenings, covid-19 tests, even offering them vaccines, connecting them with ngos, telling them their legal rights, something that isn't typically done by the agency tasked with enforcement and removal of undocumented immigrants. but they say this is the necessary steps to alleviate some of that overcrowding. the other thing it does do, joshua, as i'll point out, is now these families will be released if they do pass an additional asylum screening, they will be released with a court date and an ankle monitor. it will be some way for the government to track who is in the united states and if they're showing up to their court date, as opposed to what border patrol has been doing recently, where they've had to release some people without a court date, simply to alleviate that overcrowding. i.c.e. is able to provide more of that humanitarian relief, but
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also, to be able to track these immigrants and if they don't qualify for asylum, they will be swiftly deported. >> that is a very big shift from the way this has been handled thus far. thank you, julia. that's nbc's julia ainsley with the latest on the situation at the southern border tonight. well, it is the top of the hour and it's very good to be with you tonight. we are waiting to learn the next steps for the house select committee that's investigating january 6th. lawmakers huddled behind closed doors last night, after some emotional testimony this week. simone biles is out for at least two of the four individual competitions in the olympic finals, after sparking a big conversation about mental health. hers is just one big story this week about the ways we show up for each other. to give a teammate a break, to defend democracy, to stop a pandemic, or anything else that matters to us. from nbc news world headquarters in new york, i'm joshua johnson. welcome to "the week."
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the working weekend on capitol hill tonight and the senate is still holding a rare saturday session. we are waiting for the final text of the bipartisan infrastructure bill, apparently it could come at any time. meanwhile, last night president biden signed a $2.1 billion spending package that congress passed this week. as you can see, part of it will cover costs that the u.s. capitol police, the national guard, and other law enforcement partners incurred during the deadly insurrection. the house select committee that was formed to investigate the attack convened for the first time on tuesday. its first hearing featured emotional testimonies from four officers who defended the capitol on january 6th. they described what it was like being overwhelmed by rioters. >> i could feel myself losing oxygen and recall thinking to myself, this is how i'm going to die, defending this entrance.
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>> i was grabbed, beaten, tased, all while being called a traitor to my country. i was at risk of being stripped of and killed with my own firearm, as i heard chants of "kill him with his own gun." i can still hear those words in my head today. >> but i ended up on my hands and knees and blind. the medical mask i was wearing at the time to protect myself from the coronavirus was pulled up over my eyes so i couldn't see. i braced myself against the impact of their blows and feared the worst. >> but the committee might have some trouble maintaining its momentum. the house is about to leave for a seven-week august recess. and no, august is not seven weeks long, but -- congress. now, to be fair, the committee's chairman, bennie thompson, has not ruled out holding hearings during the recess. investigators are still in the earliest stages of crafting their road map. that includes deciding which, if any, former white house
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officials to pursue for testimony. not to mention the growing number of congressional republicans who have admitted having some contact with donald trump during or before the insurrection. subpoenaing them could lead to an unprecedented legal and political showdown. plenty for us to discuss with our saturday night panel. pete dominick is a stand-up comedian and host of the podcast "stand up with pete dominick." hayes brown is a columnist and editor for msnbc daily. and ana marie cox is a political columnist and host of the podcast "with friends like these." glad to have these friends with us. hayes, let me start with you. after the testimony we heard on tuesday, i did not expect to watch all 3 1/2 hours of that on my day off. once i turned it on, i was riveted. i could not turn it off, because they gave four different kinds of testimony with four very different kinds of interlocking perspectives about what happened and what needs to happen now. hayes, what is your sense of what happens now, after their testimonies?
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>> so first of all, i think it was a brilliant choice to start off with these four police officers as a starting point for the hearing. it gives sort of a grounding of what actually happened on the day of january 6th in a way that has come under attack from republicans and from trump supporters who say that, you know, things weren't all that bad. there's been a very significant downplaying of the events that happened that day over the last few weeks and months. so to start with these four officers who were there, were under attack, were helping defend the members of congress, really smart to start off with their testimony. moving forward, i think that it's really important that we look at what the officers said they want to happen moving forward. one of them compared the situation to -- the situation where the department of justice goes after the people who actually invaded the capitol, why are they not looking for the
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people that hired the, quote, hit men who showed up that day. and some of them really wanted congress to dive into the truth. so i think that is going to be important that we see a lot of members on this committee who are ready and willing to start issuing subpoenas, to start calling up members of trump's inner circle, who were there with him that day, leading up and building this case. trying to work towards -- potentially, trying to get testimony of what happened that day from donald trump himself. so i think it will be really interesting as they build up this case, seeing who they call first as they move this case forward. >> hayes, you were referring to the testimony of officer harry dunn, who is a u.s. capitol police officer. here is that remark he made about finding who hired the hit man. watch. >> a hit man is hired and he kills somebody. the hit man goes to jail. but not only does the hit man go to jail, but the person who hired them does. there was an attack carried out on january 6th and a hit man sent them. i want you to get to the bottom of that. >> ana marie cox, what is your
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sense of how well we are going to get to the bottom of that? i mean, there hasn't been a ton of action since january 6th on actually investigating all of this. this is the first hearing of this committee after the effort to create not a bipartisan committee but a nonpartisan committee failed. >> i don't have a lot of hope, actually. i think that the powers that be are -- i mean, maybe this is time for democrats to start talking about the deep state. i am looking at the institutions that are protecting the people that want to protect donald trump, if that makes any sense. i know one of the things that happened this week is they've been having trouble getting police unions to say anything in defense of the police that were hurt protecting the capitol. and i think that it's just an interesting example of how, you know, we think that power in this country sort of exists to protect maybe the specific interest group that it's named after. like police unions protect police. police unions exist to protect the existing power structure.
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they exist to protect people like donald trump and others that came before him and people who unfortunately will come after him. i think that there's this -- in a way, the problems are a lot deeper than just putting these capitol hill policemen on the stand. and fortunately, i think they've caught our attention. i think there's some momentum. >> well, and in -- >> the power -- >> i'm sorry, go ahead. >> no, it's just power runs deep. >> yeah. sorry, i didn't mean to interrupt you. but i do take your point in terms of how they sort of caught the nation's attention. and pete, some of the ways in which they caught our attention, at least what stood out to me in part in the hearing is that there was a little bit of gallows humor that came out from the officers, just kind of in response to the way that the history of january 6th is attempting to be rewritten by some in congress. listen. >> what do you think about our colleagues who think we should call them tourists? >> if that's what american
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tourists are like, i can see why foreign countries don't like american tourists. >> you hear former president trump say, quote, it was a loving crowd. there was a lot of love in the crowd. how does that make you feel? >> i'm still recovering from those hugs and kisses that day, that he claimed that so many rioters, terrorists were assaulting us that day. if that was hugs and kisses, then we should all go to his house and do the same thing to him. >> now, i don't call that out to try to call out how funny these officers are, but comedy has a way and humor has a way of piercing the truth of a situation, pete. and i think that might be one of the superpowers that these officers brought to that hearing, is just an ability to cut through all the politics and just get down to the truth. >> yeah, these guys were awesome choices for so many different reasons, but they brought so
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many different elements of their personality. their rage, their vulnerability, and yeah, their humor. but i think what we're seeing here right now, this is super important, that we're seeing the right in america trying to rewrite the distant past, the origin of the country, slavery, the civil war, the civil rights movement and so on. we're seeing them try to rewrite that of course, right? our distant history. we have to have this patriotic history, as they're saying. but now we're also seeing them trying to rewrite something that we all watched on tv like four weeks ago. this guy andrew clyde, this congressman, has no right to be in any room with someone like jamie raskin, who ate him alive the other day. he's the guy who sits there and he's the guy who called them tourists. there's a picture of andrew clyde, the congressman, screaming in fear, running in terror. like this, ahhh! because he's terrified that they're going to break into the house chamber. that's the guy who said these were tourists. so it's really important the big lie about the presidential election wasn't just that it was stolen.
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it was about the election itself. it's about this country itself. we can't let them rewrite the distant past, much less what happened three weeks ago, and just feed their followers more conspiracy theories. it's not enough to believe the big lie. you have to believe the moon is made of cheese and that democrats drink babies' blood. we have to stop that in its tracks and combat it with everything we have. >> well, and hayes, i wonder what pete was bringing up particularly with congressman clyde and some of the other members of congress including members of the freedom caucus who are calling liz cheney and adam kinzinger, the two republicans on the committee, spies. colorado congresswoman lauren boebert said, "they are a cancer to our party." i wonder what you see as the future for republicans of that ilk now. granted, i think the midterm elections will sort of tell the tale in terms of whether voters push back against those lawmakers and say you need to go or you carry enough of my interests that i will let you stay. but what is your sense of the balance of power in terms of republicans who are still kind of clinging on to that fabulist view of what happened
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on january 6th? >> well, the really interesting thing about the republican party is how completely dominated they are by their fear of the primary election process. so as we start to get into the primary season for the midterms, i think we're going to see a real division between who actually has challengers run against them from the center. like, are there going to be actually any of these trump supporters who have more moderate republicans try to run against them in their district? i think that if we start to see that pop up, if they seem to be polling well, i think we're going to see some shifts in the party overall. but as things stand right now. people keep saying this is the party of trump. this is still trump's party. senator lindsey graham of south carolina said that just the other day. but trump's power is -- could be waning a little. we had a special election in texas this week where trump's last-minute backing did not put his preferred candidate over the edge. so we're really going to have to see over the next few months how much juice does the former
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president still have, now that he's off twitter, now that he's off facebook. now that -- will republicans, once they start to feel a little untethered from him, will they believe that if trump himself doesn't have power, that his base of supporters are not worth chasing after anymore? will they still turn up to the polls if he's not there to guide them? i think there's a lot of unanswered questions that we all should be asking over the next few months. and just not really making any real firm assumptions at this point about how strong or weak the trump republican party is going to be. when we actually get people to the polls in november. >> and ana marie, very briefly, before we pause in terms of those unanswered questions, subpoenas to appear before that committee, i tend to think that closed-door testimony might be more productive than holding a lot of live testimony, especially if it's with former trump administration officials who might be looking to just work the camera. but briefly before we have to pause, what do you think? >> you said it. i mean, they're looking to put on a show. because the bigger show you can put on, the more you can make people forget what happened
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before. they're looking to do the sequel to january 6th, which will take place inside the chamber but do just as much damage to democracy. >> we are spending our saturday night with pete dominick, hayes brown, and ana marie cox. y'all stick around. much more for us to talk about. coming up, simone biles is at the top of her game. what might other athletes learn from her taking a step back? plus, the financial fallout from the release of "black widow" on streaming and in theaters. but first, richard lui is here with the headlines. hey, richard. >> hey, josh, a very good saturday to you. some of the stories we're watching. a series of severe mudslides caused colorado's main highway to shut down for the weekend. dozens of drivers were trapped in their cars overnight in tunnels on colorado's main east-west interstate. over 100 people were evacuated and no reported injuries. wildfires in turkey led to mass evacuations saturday. more than 100 tourists at a seaside resort boarded rescue boats to escape that blaze. turkey's wildfire death toll
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it has been an emotional week for team usa gymnastics. late yesterday, the group announced that simone biles will not compete in two of her four individual competitions. the vault and the uneven bars. the 24-year-old gymnast was a heavy favorite for the vault going into the games, the final going into the games, but she has struggled during her time in tokyo. ms. biles explained on instagram that she has been dealing with something called the twisties. it's a kind of mental block where gymnasts lose track of their positioning midair. simone biles's decision to withdraw has put the long-taboo issue of mental health front and center at this year's olympics. our panel is back with us. and ana, let me start with you on this one. i can't blame simone biles for pulling out. the way i think of it is, imagine just going on a really rough roller coaster, lots of flips and dives and ups and downs and twists and turns, and the minute you get off the roller coaster someone says now do a backflip. if that scares you, imagine doing three and a half triple
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backflips through the air, standing still, over and over. that inability to know where your body is in space, i can't even fathom that. i can't even wrap my brain around something like that. which is why, ana, i'm struggling to wrap my brain around some of the criticism of simone biles for dropping out. >> i don't get it, either. she's actually known for that ability to see herself in the air, to really know where she is. that's why she can pull off those tricks that some people say are too dangerous to do in competition. because she has that enormous sense of self. i would say she still has an enormous sense of self. and when you said roller coaster, i thought you were going to talk about the emotional roller coaster that she's. on, as the only known survivor of the nassar scandal still competing. and she also is a black woman in america and a black woman in a really white olympics. so she's got a lot on her plate. so i think that we need to remember that also, she's a really special, special gymnast. and she's actually changed the sport of gymnastics. she's changed the culture of gymnastics.
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not just in the level of difficulty she performs at, but the spirit that she brings to the sport. she has coaches that don't belittle her if she makes a mistake. she eats, i understand. she actually talks about how she enjoys food. her training regimen is much less intense than it has been for gymnasts of generations past. so something i like to point out is she's been training to have the strength to step away from the olympics as much as she's been training to get into the olympics. she's really learned to value herself and i think that's a really great lesson for all of us. >> hayes brown, with regards to the emotional roller-coaster ana mentioned, in terms of being a black woman, candace buckner in "the washington post" wrote this. quote, a different kind of pressure follows black women who achieve in traditionally white spaces. if they've had a realist for a mother, since childhood they've heard the refrain, they've got to work twice as hard to get half as much. and if they spent two seconds in america, then they know that mama was right, unquote.
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i've got to say, this factored in for me as well when i was just looking at what she was dealing with. but not just the difficulty, the poise with which she dealt with it, and the pressure i presume she feels to remain poised as she does it. because she knows little black girls are looking to her and seeing themselves reflected back. >> absolutely. and i'm glad that she made the decision that she did so she can keep, hopefully, competing and keep doing gymnastics at the level that she's doing. and not risking her literal neck trying to pull off some of the moves she does when she knows she doesn't have, when she knows it's just not going to be there. i'm really proud of her for being able to take a step back and say, look, i know this is not going to be okay if i try this right now and i need you to believe me. and thankfully, like she's pointed out, people around her believed her. and i think that's also important to see. that people will see that, no,
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if you come and you say i'm not okay right now, that people will say okay, i understand, let's set you back and make sure that you are all right. and those kinds are the people you have to have around you. the fact that she has pulled out from the uneven bars and the vault makes total sense to me, given the conditions that she's having right now. vault, she had that near crash when she was in the finals before she withdrew, so not surprised she pulled out there. uneven bars has always been her weakest event of the four, and so that still gives her the chance on floor exercise and the balance beam. >> pete, i'm sure you heard about "snl's" michael che who came under fire for some jokes that he posted on instagram. which comedians come up with jokes. they come up with jokes on every aspect of life. there are few sacred cows in the world of comedy, but he got some flack for the things he posted regarding simone biles ahead of a stand-up show that he's doing in new york this weekend. i don't know how you see this.
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i tend to as kind of a first amendment purist believe that you can say anything that you will own the consequences for. if you will take responsibility for what you say, first line of the nbc news standards, we are responsible for everything we report, on every medium, including social media. we're responsible. so i can report anything i will own. and if he's willing to own the criticism, okay. that's on you. you're free to say it. but how do you see it, pete? >> well, increasingly, comedians are more worried about their words, simply if they work for companies. of course, che is at "saturday night live" and can be concerned there. but i put comedians, my peers, my entire career, in a different category. they are comedians and if you don't understand some of them are going to go for the most shocking thing they can and hope to profit from it. that's why earlier, joshua, you said, i'm not sure who the critics are of simone biles or why they're doing this, and ana, you were both like, why would they do it? you know why they're doing it. we all know why they're doing
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it. and people have been clamoring to hear the point of view of another straight white guy this week from me. so here -- >> that's why you're here. >> as a former non-competitive break dancer on simone biles, i mean, i don't care about -- it's not my business, the twisties. it's interesting to hear what that is. she is the most amazing gymnast ever. unless you can fly, then don't criticize her, i would say. but number two, her mental health -- this is such an important issue, this is such good news. and i think the critics are far fewer and they're the same type of guy, the same type of guy who is criticizing adam kinzinger for becoming emotional and for having emotions. they're not that many. most people are supportive of what they're doing. i think this is really important to mention that there's been a real groundswell of support for what she is doing. and finally, you know, sally jenkins wrote in "the washington post" it's a perilous endeavor to try to interpret what her prerogative is. but i'll give it a shot.
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as ana said, she is the only member of the team who is part of nassar's abuse, a victim of his abuse. she's got to be conflicted just working with usa gymnastics, while they're still in court trying to evade responsibility. and frankly, this is probably perilous and unfair, but you know, she's a black american. there's a lot of confusion about competing under that flag right now while they're trying to take black folks' vote away. and i'm the white guy on the panel to say that, so i'll shut up now. >> no, i hear you, white guy on panel. i appreciate you being here and taking on that very lofty mantle. last few seconds, ana, i wonder if you think that the change in terms of our conversation on mental health is going to stick or does this kind of go away when the torch goes out in a few weeks? >> are we going to stick the landing on this one? >> well played. well done. >> i hope so. i mean, she's really inspired me. i can't say i know what it's like to compete in front of millions of people and to compete at that level, but i know what it's like to feel like if i do the wrong thing i'll disappoint everyone that loves me. and i think what simone has shown all of us is that we come before other people's expectations. and i'm going to take that to heart.
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>> yeah, i appreciate you sharing that. i think we could all share a few beers at the bar and our stories about living up to other people's expectations. hey, it takes a while to learn that the people who love you, their love is not conditioned on what you do, it's only about who you are and that you are. that is where the love comes from. and if simone biles never does another flip through the air, girl, we ain't gonna love you any less. we're not going to stand you any less if you never flip through the air again. we have a little bit more to talk about, so you three please stick around. up next, "the black widow" has a new adversary at the walt disney company. we'll explain, when we come back. know this about the jungle, everything that you see wants to kill you and can. ♪ ♪ ♪ born to be wild ♪ ♪ ♪
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scarlett johansson is suiting up. and i don't mean just as the black widow. this week the "avengers" star sued the walt disney company, which owns marvel.
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the suit alleges that disney breached her contract by releasing "black widow" on its streaming service disney plus. miss johansson's salary was apparently based largely on the movie's box office performance at conventional movie theaters. disney responded in a statement describing the lawsuit as having, quote, no merit whatsoever. it also accused ms. johansson of showing callous disregard for the effects of the covid-19 crisis. and in a rather shocking move, it put a number to how much it apparently agreed to pay her for "black widow." her push seems to be inspiring other performers who feel slighted by the shift to streaming. according to "variety," several disney actors are considering legal actions of their own. our panel is back with us to discuss. ana marie cox, hayes brown, and pete dominick. pete, let me start with you. i'm not sure exactly how i feel about this. on one hand, covid obviously has changed the way we go to the movies. we take that as read. her lawsuit notes that the annual bonuses for disney's chairman and its ceo are tied to the performance of disney plus,
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the streaming service. so there's that economic aspect. part of me also thinks that maybe this is something that her representatives fell short on because they didn't negotiate it into her contract and they should have. but all of those things are kind of on my mind. how do you see this? >> again, as a man here, i think it's really important to hear my perspective. actually no, why don't we do this? women in film, los angeles, reframe and time's up issued a joint statement calling disney's characterization of scarlett johansson a gendered character attack. they said this gendered character attack has no place in a business dispute and contributes to an environment in which women and girls are perceived as less able than men to protect their own interests without facing ad hom nem criticism. this is a war of words between the disney camp and scarlett johansson's camp. as to what the agreement was, which is why you're saying you're torn, i get it too. my daughter is a huge fan of all
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of these films and highly anticipated this one. we watched it together and paid i think, $30 to watch it at home. and loved it and thought it was really empowering for women and girls and what, you know, a lot of great characters in this. but to see then the real actress fight for what she believes that she's due and all of these other women's advocacy groups supporting her, i think it's a very interesting time. but i would yield the remainder of my time to ana marie cox, and whatever question you have for her, sir. >> ana, you're up. what do you make of this? >> go, scarlett. i mean, go black widow. i agree, it was a very gendered attack on her. and i have to say that this is a case of a woman looking to see who owns her story, who owns her labor. women put a lot of labor into the world that's never compensated. i think this is just another example. it's not housework, like a lot of the time it is. but it's something that's really huge. i also want to say about the movie. it was amazing. >> no spoilers, please. i haven't seen it yet. no spoilers, please.
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>> no spoiler. no spoilers. >> thank you. go ahead. >> no, no. it's amazing the shift in perspective that you have when every single person fighting on the screen is a woman. like, the bad guys are women, the good guys are women. there is not a man in the room in the climax of the movie. and it just feels different. i can't quite explain it. i will say, i went to see this in a theater. i was sitting next to two guys with strong texas accents and wearing gimmick hats and they were talking about how much they liked donald trump before the movie started. i almost wanted to poke them. after it was over, one of them went, that was pretty cool to see -- did they say a female? they said, it's pretty cool how there are women heroes now. >> hmm. now? >> i know. they may be out of touch for a little while. but it's really interesting and it's interesting that you see the whole screen dominated by
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women. >> that sounds kind of like the experience i had watching "black panther." where you had a black hero and a black villain and understanding both characters, and that experience of being in the theater, full of black people, watching black people run the world was like, wakanda forever. i am there for this. >> that's how i felt about watching all of the rest of the movies before that. >> yeah, i'm sure. >> now we can relate -- >> that's how you felt watching the news maybe, too. >> exactly. we can relate on a whole new level now. >> but hayes, this is part of this covid-19 shift. this is a shift in the way we watch movies. paying 30 bucks to watch movie at home. i remember when people were like, i hate going to the theater. now we kind of can because we have to. we also learned this week that broadway theaters, when they begin to get back in production, they're going to require people to be vaccinated and wear masks. young children who are too young to be vaccinated will have to wear masks. lollapalooza in chicago said yesterday they are requiring masks in indoor spaces for this
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weekend's show. so this sounds like at least a piece of this, the covid aspect of this, is just something that we're going to have to figure out going forward, especially in the ways that we entertain ourselves. >> yeah, absolutely. i think that there's no putting the streaming -- there's no plugging up -- putting the finger in the dike that is streaming. let's put it that way. there's no stopping that more people want to watch things at home now. and i feel for the movie theater industry. i feel for the fact that they had no idea that this shift was going to come so quickly, pushed forward like it has been by covid. i do think that this lawsuit from scarlett johansson is going to be interesting. not necessarily for the outcome for her. i kind of have a hard time seeing it being very successful. it's going to get a lot of attention. it's going to draw a lot of attention to how contracts are written moving forward. you're going to see a lot more stars making sure that they do have language in there that if -- is this movie going to be exclusively in theaters, do i
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get a cut of the streaming if it is going to be released via streaming? i think this is a brand new world for a lot of entertainers and their lawyers and their agents, et cetera, to try to figure out, well, what does it mean then if it's not going to be just out in theaters? how do we get paid then if it is going to be put out on what is no longer the equivalent of direct-to-video. when all of us here were younger, that was a slap in the face, to have your movie go from being a theatrical release to oh, you might see it at blockbuster maybe. >> right to vhs. >> if you look it up on wikipedia, blockbuster was huge. i think this is going to be a really interesting time for -- looking forward. i don't know that this lawsuit itself is going to work, but it's going to be revolutionary moving forward. >> pete dominick, hayes brown, ana marie cox, what a pleasure to have had you all with us tonight. thank you all very much. coming up, the nationwide eviction moratorium is set to expire tonight. we have some tips for you if you're trying to save your home. next.
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in just over two hours, the national eviction moratorium will expire. last night, a push by house democrats to extend that ban failed. that prompted congresswoman cory busch of missouri to take action. bush was once homeless herself. she spent the night on the steps of the capitol. the congresswoman from st. louis says she plans to do the same thing tonight. she's calling on her colleagues to return to d.c. and pass an extension. that could prevent millions of americans from losing their homes. in the meantime, what should you do if you are served an eviction notice? nbc's maura barrett has more. >> reporter: 3.6 million americans say they will likely have to leave their homes in the next two months due to eviction. >> we call eviction the scarlet "e," because when a family faces an eviction people who face an eviction are then often barred from getting access to housing,
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to jobs, or to loans. as they, you know, recover from the experience of an eviction. >> reporter: but if you do find yourself with an eviction notice on your door, no matter where you are, experts all agree -- >> the number one thing you can do is find an attorney. the more you can get that advice, i think the better. because these processes can move quickly. there's a lot of complicated paperwork. if you're doing it for the first time, it's likely you can make a mistake. so talk to that attorney and get that advice. >> reporter: you can go to your local federal legal services office. they're usually free or they may refer you to a nonprofit legal provider for eviction cases. when you go, it's important to bring the receipts. documenting everything you can. if you can take photos of any interactions you have with your landlord. take photos of your possessions or anything that could be used in court proceedings to help defend your case. >> reporter: even if you haven't
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yet received an eviction notice, experts urge that if you're struggling to pay rent you should access the billions of dollars of rental assistance made available by the federal government. >> okay, you're good to go. >> there is a historic amount of rental assistance available. the biden administration has allocated over $46 billion to renters in the u.s. but what we've seen is that that rental assistance money is not reaching people in time. so what that means is that tenants who are waiting in line for their rental assistance checks to clear may face eviction in the weeks ahead. >> reporter: there's plenty of that assistance to go around. but not all of it is being used. nbc news contacted all 50 states and the district of columbia about their emergency rental assistance programs. of the 41 that responded, 26 have distributed less than 10% of their first allocations. >> i have plenty of money to give. what i need is applications, and i need time. >> and can people still access their rental assistance, even after they are potentially at risk of eviction or when they
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get that eviction notice? >> absolutely. the timeline can be long, but the sooner you get in the line to receive that funding, the more likely you are to receive it if that eviction trial or that hearing takes place. after you've spoken to an attorney and after you've applied for rental assistance, with the guidance of your attorney potentially to reach out to your landlord and let them know that you're waiting on that rental assistance. in a lot of cases, the rental assistance that's available can not only pay all of the back pay, but some of the rent into the future. so if your landlord is willing to wait that check they're going to receive is potentially really significant. >> reporter: the stakes are high as this eviction moratorium comes to a close. >> the same communities that have been affected by layoffs, that have been affected by covid-19, they may be at risk of both losing their homes and also contracting, you know, covid-19 or the delta variant at this critical time. >> reporter: but the impacts of an eviction can last long after a family is out the door. >> the consequences of an
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eviction wave will be multi-generational. it's a traumatic adverse childhood experience for kids who have to go through that, as well. but we also know that moms who experience an eviction suffer from depression up to two years after that experience. >> reporter: that multi-generational impact, causing both emotional and financial setbacks. advocates hoping this rental assistance can change that. >> eviction is often talked about as being the result of poverty, and really in the united states it's often the cause of poverty. and so it's a very frightening moment for that reason, and it's why it's so important state and county governments really move quickly to get that rental assistance dollars out the door. because those federal funds can resolve those debts and they can prevent evictions from taking place. >> that was nbc's maura barrett reporting. in the face of danger, sometimes the hardest part is just showing up. my take on the big theme of this week's news before we go.
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the insurrection on january 6th. u.s. capitol police officer harry dunn touched on something big there. even knowing now what he did not know then, he says he would have still shown up for work. that's been a big theme in this week's top stories. showing up. not easy to do your duty when the whole world is watching. but those officers showed us what it looks like. danger has a way of focusing your mind on doing the right thing. that was apparently a factor in simone biles's decision to withdraw from many of her olympic events. late yesterday, usa gymnastics announced she would withdraw from the finals for the vault and the uneven bars. she had already pulled out of team competition after experiencing a kind of mind/body disorientation known as the twisties. but that opened the door for her teammates to show up in her place and for her to cheer them on as loudly as ever. the u.s. women's team took silver. russia took the gold. and the women's all-around went to suni lee from team usa. it was an especially big deal
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for asian-americans, especially in the hmong community. the h mong are an ethnic group with roots in china. tens of thousands of hmong soldiers fought alongside the u.s. in the vietnam war. today there are enclaves in minnesota and fresno, california. in a piece for nbc think, minnesota public radio's nancy yang writes, "hmong people do not regularly see themselves in national news stories ore celebrated as part of the national conversation. lee has elevated a community that has for decades felt invisible and forgotten by america." now, look, i'm not going to tell you how you should show up. there are better experts than me to guide you on that. you'll meet one tomorrow night. more on that in a second. but these folks did amazing things as they charged into the unknown. that's not easy to do. even if you know what you're doing. which gets me to something more personal. an announcement about the future of this program. maybe you already heard. this fall i will be launching a
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new show on our free streaming channel nbc news now. instead of working weekends, i will see you on weeknights. nbc's tom llamas and hallie jackson are also building new programs on nbc news now. i cannot personally wait to watch them. to say that i am honored and humbled is an understatement. i'm a bit of a nervous wreck too, or at least i was once the announcement went out on tuesday. i've had a few days to work through the anxiety. so what helped calm me down? well, simply put, the new program will amplify the kind of journalism you've come to expect here. connecting people, demystifying the news, making room for everyone, staying highly interactive, and definitely enjoying ourselves along the way. you know, the last few years have revolutionized the ways we show up for one another. personally i think we're up to the test. but whether it's a golden opportunity like this one or the golden badges on officers doing their duty, the tasks before us can seem absolutely enormous. and when we don't know exactly
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what to do, our values can give us courage to make good choices. that is how we honor those golden badges. and it's how you earn gold medals. it is exactly the moment when showing up is the hardest that it means the most. in some ways it's the big challenge of today, isn't it? what are we going to do for each other when the stakes are high? how are we going to wipe out the pandemic if only some of us are showing up to do our part? what becomes of this country if we cannot trust all of our fellow citizens to show up when our democracy is threatened? that's the challenge. and the opportunity. now we get to reimagine the ways in which we connect with each other. and in some cases consider if disconnection is best. we would like to get that conversation going. but we'd love to hear from you first. so tell us. how are people around you showing up for the things that matter to you?
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are you effectively coming together or do your efforts keep falling apart? email us, tweet us or stitch a video to this one at tiktok. we are also at instagram @theweek underscore msnbc. tell us and where you live. we'll share some of your stories tomorrow with priya parker. you might call her an expert gatherer. her work focuses on making our shared experiences more meaningful and effective and i cannot wait to talk to her. priya parker joins us tomorrow night. hey, speaking of shared experiences, we still have plenty of time to share on this program. i'm not going anywhere just yet. you can still catch me on msnbc saturdays and sundays through the rest of the summer. plus i need your ideas and input for the new project. more on that and more details on the program very soon. in the meantime, do follow me on twitter and facebook @nbcjoshua.
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i'll keep you posted there. thanks as always for making time for us. don't forget to follow us on twitter and tiktok. @theweek spt msnbc. also on instagram. @theweek underscore msnbc. we'll preview upcoming guests and post highlights from the show. tomorrow night at 9:00 eastern, maryland senator ben cardin will join us. we will discuss where things stand with that bipartisan infrastructure plan as the senate continues to work through the weekend. come on back for that. but until we meet again, i'm joshua johnson. thanks again for making time for us. i'll see you sunday. good night. ♪♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ born to be wild ♪ see disney's jungle cruise. applebee's and a movie, now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood.
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