tv The 11th Hour With Brian Williams MSNBC August 2, 2021 11:00pm-12:00am PDT
boston's last word. the 11th hour with brian williams starts now. >> good evening once again i'm chris jansen in for brian williams. day 195 of the biden administration. the delta variant is tightening its grip on the nations and hospital admissions. the u.s. is now recorded over and averaging 35 cases a day. late this afternoon, the cdc director revealed new data on the dangers of this hyper contagious delta strain. >> if you get stuck with the delta variant we estimate you could in fact five other
unvaccinated people more than twice as many as the original strain. >> researchers at johns hopkins university has held five states, california, texas, missouri, florida, represent 46 of the new u.s. covid cases. hurly are, today officials in louisiana over the grimacing of the situation. >> nobody should be laboring under the misapprehension that this is just another surge. we've already had three of these. this is the worst when we have had thus far. >> this virus, the delta variant of covid is every infectious disease fuss -- specialist in's worst nightmare. >> health officials have warned we are now in the pandemic of the unvaccinated. today, the white house said some 90 million americans have yet to get one of the three vaccines available. yet, there are some signs that
those holding out may finally be coming around. as of today, the government says 70% of americans have received at least one dose of the vaccine. the president had originally hoped to reach that goal by july 4th. administration officials also say they are seeing a trend of rising vaccinations. >> over the past few weeks we have seen a nearly 70% increase in the average number of new people getting vaccinated each and every day. in the last seven days alone, 3 million americans have gotten their first shot. that is the highest seven day total since july 4th. >> we are also learning more about so-called breakthrough infections which occurred in people who are fully vaccinated. a new study from the kaiser family foundation says those ports are in less than 1% of the fully vaccinated. senator lindsey graham is among them. he revealed he tested positive for covid today saying he began having flu-like symptoms
saturday night. the center says he will be in quarantine for ten days, and went on to say quote graham was one of several senators who gathered at joe manchin's houseboat. manchin says everyone on board was vaccinated and so far, graham is the only one to have been tested positive. tragic news tonight. two more law enforcement officers who responded to the january 6th riot, have taken their own lives. washington d.c. police officer gunther hachida an 18 year veteran of the force. and another officer kyle
defreytag as well. >> senator ron johnson is pushing the theory that the fbi knew more about the planning of the insurrection than the bureau let on. the bows obtained video of johnson spreading that unfounded claims during the political event this weekend in wisconsin. -- johnson appears to be talking about the alleged kidnapping plot targeting gretchen whitmer of michigan. there's been no critical evidence to say the fbi had a plan in the january 6th attack.
meanwhile, cue up the latest round of infrastructure week jokes. the senate finally considering the one trillion dollar bipartisan infrastructure bill. majority leader chuck schumer says they could pass in a matter of days but, the republican leader seems to be in no hurry to move things along. >> let's start voting on amendments. the longer it takes to finish the bill, the longer we will be here. >> our full consideration of this bill must now be choked off by any artificial timetable that a democratic colleagues may have penciled out for political purposes. >> with that, let's bring in our guest ashley parker, washington bureau chief for the washington post. >> -- for counter intelligence. he's also the host of the new podcast the borough and michael osterholm he's the one exit disses resurgent when university in minnesota. he was a covid adviser to the
transition team. good to have all you hear. michael osterholm, what are we doing and what are we going through in this latest surge? >> you have to understand we don't know why surges occur. what happens that suddenly gives a sudden surge and drop within 5 to 7 tops of the top surge that's been happening around the world. i expect the same to happen here. november -- in 45, weeks we will see the numbers drop tremendously. if louisiana was a country, it would actually have the highest rate of cases in the entire world for any country. that's how bad things are. that's how bad things are. it's a challenge for 5 to 6 weeks to come. >> 5 to 7 weeks schools are already opening. many in the next four weeks. children under 12 can't be vaccinated yet, and there are
states that won't just mandate masks, they are forbidding schools to have mask mandates. what concerns you most against kids in the scenario? >> we have 100 million people in this country who are unvaccinated, of which i have four children. we do know that this virus transmits to and buy children readily. unlike early thoughts that this would have spared children, it doesn't affect them at the same rate, but it still does affect them. it causes an illness that far exceeds by two or three for the number of deaths we expect to see with influenza. we don't want kids to get infected. also, we don't want them to get infected because they are bringing it home. we now have clear and compelling evidence that in households, kids can bring the virus home to their family.
this will be a challenge, we can't use happy talk to say we will just have schools open and everything is okay. >> those challenges mean actually that the white house now finds itself fully back in the middle of the pandemic, even for this critical week when this key item agenda is trying to get the infrastructure bill to pass is right on the docket. what is the atmosphere like at the white house as the two issues collide. >> the white house is privately concerned and understands they have a real challenge with the delta variant. even if you just look at today's white house -- and it was delayed several hours, with no explanation other than a lot was happening. they want to push infrastructure, the bipartisan deal, and more democratic
progressive plans, a lot of the questions dealt with coronavirus, which they came in and said it was one of the four major crises of the administration and they have not yet solved it and they are grappling now with delta variants and it's a messaging problem. they have to talk about the breakthrough cases which in some ways a complicated message that undermines the key thing which is still that everyone needs to get vaccinated. and yet, you may be vaccinated and have a breakthrough case, but you still need to get vaccinated. . >> meantime, frank all those politics. you heard what ron johnson said about the fbi. i want you to listen to tucker carlson back in june. >> so, fbi operatives were
organizing the attack on the capitol on january 6th, according to government documents. those two are not alone. in all, revolver news reported there are quote what? so it turns out this white supremacist insurrection was, again, by the government's own admission in these documents, organized at least in part by government agents. >> i mean, frank, if you want to say what? none of this, none of this that he said is tied to any evidence. what's your reaction when you hear those conspiracies theories especially when they take rate with high ranking officials like senators? >> first, i'm troubled we are
even having to discuss this. because it now seems to be an organized orchestrated propaganda threat that we are gonna keep hearing the more are select committee in the house keeps getting to the bottom of the real facts, let's go out and address it once again with regard to mr. carlson's assertion that the phrase unindicted coconspirator in these indictments of the january 6th defendants means, or equals, fbi operative. there is no legal justification for saying that it's not true. you could've asked a legal personnel and you would've found out it does not mean fbi operative. now we are seeing it come in a different version from senator johnson, not again based in any fact. rather, insinuating that somehow the fbi was to do this. we first heard that antifa was responsible for the violence on january 6th. then we heard it was just another typical tourist day.
now of course we are hearing, never mind, it was the fbi. of senator johnson has material facts that the fda was responsible for pulling off the violence on january 6th, i'm sure he would be very happy to volunteer or even comply with the subpoena to appear before the house select committee so he can explain everything he knows about january 6th. >> a typical tourist day afterwards for capital police officers have taken their own lives. let's punctuate that, shall we? i also want to ask you frank about this report i political. trump's legal team -- i think they know they are on the legal side of any losing argument. it signals with doj that attorney privilege is not gonna, work executive privilege will not work. i think they are regrouping. i don't think we are the last of an argument or fight from
the trump camp, but i think they are baffled right now realizing that there are real people in charge, real lawyers and career professionals in charge now a doj, and congress is taking it seriously. they are regrouping might. now not the last we heard of. them >> remember one summers were slow? remember that? here is the big picture d.c. question for you with everything else going on. one of the chances right now that joe biden could actually not just see's infrastructure bill, but the budget bill become reality? >> great question. in the second question is the bigger wildcard. for president biden, the bipartisan bill is important. it's not just infrastructure that's in it, but for him in the way he's past it and speaks about it and what he truly believes in is that it would pass something more extension and -- existential and broader about something in government and
it's still working despite all this. in doing not, he is risking upsetting the liberal wing, the activist wing of his party that basically said, we suspend the disbelief. we helped elect you because we believed you supported our priorities, and we are not going to get rolled on this and pass this bipartisan deal and not get all these goodies, but again, things that philosophically at our core we believe. and they are not going to let one bill passed without the other. >> let me take you back michael osterholm to what we all know just based on what happened at the press briefing today at the white house. and what is on the minds of the american people and the press corps. that is what's happening with the coronavirus. the cdc guidance on masks, once again, just to reiterate what we found out last week, wearing them in public and indoor settings and area with high transmission.
i go back to a question maybe over a year ago, what kind of mask? i heard tons of these little paper things which i see most people wearing. is that ok? is that good enough? >> it is very important to wear adequate protection. you need to wear an n95 respirator. it looks like a mask, they are very different. there is plenty of. them a year ago there weren't very many at all. >> in fact, we were told don't do, it you are taking it away from medical professionals. >> not now. there is more than enough. when the mask you're talking about, and the upper midwest we are now suffering from all the smoke and fires. in canada and in the western united states. we have people complain about wearing the masks it was so smoky they had to take the mask off meaning that the smoke got through into the mask. that's wooden air solids. when i breathe, that's what i do. you want to wear a mask with adequate protection, very
important. get an n95. >> the uk and germany both planning to get third booster shots because of all this talk about breakthrough infections. that will happen in september. we know it is real, a lot of us doing. it should the u.s. be gearing up to do the same, and to your knowledge, are we? >> clearly the government is looking at it very carefully. looking at the data as to the time from when you got vaccinated and six, seven, eight months later and do we see waited immunity and reduction in the protection of the vaccine? my hunch is that, in a few weeks we will also be offering boosters to at least those who are older and those that may have underlying suppression conditions. >> doctor michael osterholm, ashley parker and frank figliuzzi always good to see all of you. thank you so. much coming, up covid patients are coming in so fast and patient. some are being treated in tents. we will get an interview from
wow! cheer on team usa with xfinity internet. and ask how to save up to $400 a year on your wireless bill when you add xfinity mobile. how many people did you have get started today. with covid here in your hospital? >> we had 14 in june. >> now? >> we are over 220. we are seeing more patients than we have ever seen that are sick with covid and very ill. we are having mostly younger patients in their forties and fifties. >> are you seeing 20 year old,
30 year olds? >> i've admitted a patient as young as three weeks old with covid. >> yeah. jacksonville er doctor says the patients are now younger and healthier than ever before. we know florida's hospitals are swamped. the state is headed to the worst covid update yet and hospitals are up to 10,389. the ap reports for more, we welcome bernard ashby. he's a miami-based cardiologist and he's committed to protecting health. care thank you for being with us doctor ashby. florida is now the epicenter of this virus. he told my colleague jeff jeff
bennett earlier this is groundhog day all over again. tell us about the flood of patients who are seeing now, and how quickly the situation has worsened. >> pleasure for having me here, it's great to have a platform to speak on behalf of floridians and health care professionals down here. this is like we are having ptsd. the initial surge that we went through was very disturbing and stressful. we thought this was behind us. we have the vaccination campaign. we thought the light was at the end of the tunnel but, yet, here we are again. the difference is, our leaders particularly our governor, has really done nothing in terms of slowing this freight train now. really, he is opposed to any mitigation measures. he has come out staunchly
against really any mandates against enforcing masks, we know that that is the tool that definitely slows down the transmission of the coronavirus. in the fact that he makes it a political issue rather than a public health measure is impacting our morale at the hospital. >> broward county school said they were going to have a mask mandate, and when governor desantis said what he said, they back checked on that. how worried are you as kids are headed to school, and how frustrating for you and your colleagues is this? >> i mean, i have been saying the same thing over, and over, and over again -- let the professionals do our jobs. let us do our jobs and just consul with us and come up with a strategy that addresses the concerns as well as public health concerns.
we have no mitigation measures. we have been shut out of the conversation. in fact, governor distances actually attacked myself and my colleagues when we decide to speak up against the saying, you know, mitigation measures won't affect us. they basically say we don't know what we are talking about. this kind of flip it attitude is something that is really at the height of disrespect, i also consider reckless. i think he's taking a page out of trump's book. people forget that during the winter surge, when we were at our peak, donald trump did absolutely nothing after losing the election. by all accounts, it looks like it didn't hurt him at all. i think he is making a political calculation over the health of the population. from our standpoint, it is not a time to play politics. i believe a lot more people in florida would be more willing to accept him if he actually
did his job. the fact that he's being neglectful in his duties is very revealing. when there is a point when your leaders are choosing politics over lifes that is something very disturbing. i don't know what to do at this sound -- at this point i will continue to speak up. i've gotten a ton of messages at this point who credit me for speaking out because i'm saying things they feel. right now we are at a breaking point. it will only get worse. when school starts things will continue to get worse. we don't know what to do at this point. we hope he has a change of mind. >> i can't imagine what it's like to have the governor of your state attacking your credibility and professionalism. as you said though, you are not alone in that. all of you folks have been on the front line for this entire pandemic. will you have enough staff to handle this severe surge and,
one of the conversations like among you folks at the hospital? how exhausted physically and mentally are you? >> people are stressed. especially the nurses. the nurses don't get enough credit for what they do. they are the ones that are with these patients day in and day out. they're in the rooms, being exposed to the virus. they actually are sacrificing their own health, knowing that there is a possibility that they can get infected even though they've been vaccinated. the delta variant is so much different, the equation has changed. the viral load is much higher and the chances of breakthrough infections are much higher. with that, they are actually putting their lives and health at risk. the fact that we don't have the backing of our leadership is something that is demoralizing. >> do you have any insights,, doctor into what works in trying to talk to people who are unvaccinated? there is such a rising
frustration among the vaccinated. folks have tried everything. 2 million dollar vaccine lottery in mallory 1 million bucks in maryland. big screen tvs in arkansas. sometimes it takes conversations from doctor to patient. what do you think will work here? >> it's important to realize that vaccination maze were low and certain demographics prior to the covid-19 pandemic. our health care system hand build large demographics as part of the pandemic. hard disease killed more people than the covid 19 pandemic last year. these problems are baked into the cake. we need to address those fundamental issues because, people don't trust the system or trust a lot of the institutions because they see what happens day in and day out. i am a black physician, a black cardiologist. i talk a lot about disparities
but, i understand disparities are not an abstract concept. i see how patients of color particularly black women and indigenous women, who don't speak english, get treated in a hospital. they feel that this system does not care about them. when they do see the government all of a sudden pushing the vaccine, they feel like wait, you didn't care about me before now all of a sudden you do. it's important for us to listen to the distrust because other folks are using that distressed and jumping and taking them and jumping off a cliff and risking their own health. what's i find is that, because i'm connected to my community and patients, they mostly have gotten their vaccinations. i am not able to speak to everybody and i'm not able to be in every one-on-one interaction in every patient room. i do understand though that we need to do something about our health care system. this is the moment where we
have a fundamental reckoning with our health care system that actually is profit driven, not health driven. once we understand that and start taking care of our patients and compilation, a lot more folks will be eager to get vaccinated and eager to get health advice and take care of their health. right now we are late to the party and trying to address these issues wall addressing this pandemic is making things a lot more difficult because a lot of political people and agendas are using it to their advantage unfortunately. >> doctor bernard ashby, thank you for hanging in. there thank you for being on the program. tonight coming out, president biden called the single most important thing we have to do. with the latest on efforts to protect the road -- right to vote, when the 11th hour continues. hour continues sure, he's the 76-year-old guy who still runs marathons, right? sadly, not anymore. wow.
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ramping up pressure on congress to get protections passed into law. more than 200 peaceful protesters were arrested today, including prominent civil rights leader resident -- reverend jesse jackson and william barber. more than 100 lawmakers from 20 states are now joining the quorum busting democrats from texas who have been in washington since july 12 fighting for reform. tonight, a scathing leather from the josie maricopa county board of supervisors, rejecting a new subpoena from arizona state senate republicans. the folks who are staring the
ballot audit. back with us, cornell belcher and veteran of the obama campaign. -- wolf good to see you. cornell, in that letter, the republican chairman called the never ending review an adventure and never never land, which points to what biden said earlier today. so cornell, in your mind, which is fight like hell look like faced with reality in today. so cornell, in your mind, which is fight like hell look like faced with reality in states like arizona? >> when you look at the
legislators who have come here who are at the front line of this in the states and you're seeing it up close, and you connect the dots back with the reporting that has been done on our network here and in many newspapers and you are documenting what the president president trump was putting on state officials and now we understand that this a.g. in the notes saying it's corrupt and we will take it from there. one hell that was the infrastructure. the infrastructure of our election system they did their job. they didn't break under the pressure and now what we are seeing is republican legislators across the country dismantle that structure that held our democracy up and saved our democracy. i think we are right to be alarmed by this because it is like we are literally watching them set up and create the ability to overthrow an election in the future and to
be very clear, they will overthrow another election in the future if our election system can't stop them from doing it. it's the highest threat to american democracy. with this infrastructure week i don't know, but once it passed, there can't be higher priority for democrats and people whether you are republican or democrat, believe in democracy, there is no higher priority than supporting and strengthening our election infrastructure so they can't take democracy away from us. >> stewart, as you take the lay of the land, do you think the filibuster is the only option left to get something done on voting rights? >> probably. you've got to have some federal -- because the states are not shy about what they are doing. 40 states or something out there, with voting rights. >> well, here we go, stewart.
here's the step that i saw tonight they are pushing for change in 39 states and it's what qualifies as how to vote. 18 have passed new laws already. that's in the last six months. >> yeah, the question is would this be the same if donald trump won, the answer is no. there is no good debate here this is not to protect democracy, it's an effort to subvert democracy. people are hindered here by the way to match what is going on. the people who i have a right to do this understand what they are going through and those of us who support this pluralistic democracy and want to expand voting rights, we can't believe they are really doing this, but they are. we need to fight this as if democracy is under threat
because it is in a way that it hasn't been since 1860. >> so, cornell, there's a top election law maker and he had this to say to the new yorker on the voting rights. i am scared nonetheless how worried should we be with this. scared nonetheless how worried should we be with this. >> i agree. i am scared out of my mind that we are watching democracy slip away. this is i would lose democracy, and it is done in the state levels without a need for the majority. look, i think pushes like my mom would say push has got to come to shove over the filibuster and i know the president is reluctant to change the rules, but it's just a rule it's not in the constitution. i gotta think at some point, this rises to the state of emergency where we're
more of us are scared of our minds that we are gonna lose democracy. and we got to get rid of it the filibuster, and to do so it will save democracy. bye-bye filibuster. >> here's where we are, stewart. an arizona state senator, wendy rogers, she said i would like to know if this is enough solitary confinement
for the board of maricopa county supervisors. she wants to lock them up. >> and we are saying we are not gonna go along with the big lie. >> right. the underlying level here is the threat or reality of violence. when you see mccarthy getting the speaker or the gavel getting hit with it, or you see what happened on january 6th, there is a violent undercurrent to this that we can't ignore. why is it that republicans don't want to talk about january 6th? because they know that it will come through the election system they're going about it now in quiet ways hoping people won't notice, underneath it is the same instinct and its with isolation go away and sees pain and it is about violence and threat to democracy. >> cornell stewart, stay with us. one one republican is saying about subpoenas for other republicanthe 11th hour c. here is the threat or reality of violence. when you see
mccarthy getting the speaker or the gavel getting hit with it, or you see what happened on january 6th, there is a violent undercurrent to this that we can't ignore.
why is it that republicans don't want to talk about january 6th? because they know that it will come through the election system they're going about it now in quiet ways hoping people won't notice, underneath it is the same instinct and its with isolation go away and sees pain and it is about violence and threat to democracy. >> cornell stewart, stay with us. one one republican is saying about subpoenas for other republicans in the january six investigation, when the 11th hour continues.
trump supporters have raised more than $100 million than they have now in the bank. it did 2 million race in the first half of this year quote -- what's your reaction to those figures, stewart? election lies from trump seemed to be providing fuel. >> it's not in spite of the big lie, the big lies feeling this. we should continue or donald trump the nominee in 2024 for the republican party. i don't know who will challenge him if he runs. i think he will run. he will run for many reasons,
including money. the trump family was all about money. that's why they are so very depending anybody come in and actually look at what's going on. this is a trump party. i hate to say, it is true. there is no reason for me to believe it won't stay that way. >> we will see cornell, what, if anything, comes out of the committee. and kinzinger said this saturday. >> what we need to know is what happened. if you look at, it will take to find out what happened? it will take zero and best to geishas. i would expect to see a significant number of subpoenas for people. significant number of subpoena for people i would support anybody they
can shed light on. that >> anybody that can shed light on that cornell? what do you think? how far the democrats need to go with this investigation? >> i think you're seeing why mccarthy did not want serious republicans on that committee about this. the truth of the matter is, if that committee does not devolve into a partisan circus, which he wanted to have done with the republican that he selected out there, but leading circus, being jim jordan. it becomes a very serious investigative body. that is going to turn over every rock and look around every corner. and that means that subpoenas some of the people that mccarthy wanted to put on that committee, to in fact muddy the waters. i've said it before i'll say it again. there's an awful lot of smoke here for their not to be any fire. and at some point, if this body does its job, and puts the people on, puts people out
there and makes them testify around this, we are going to find out some in detail what trump knew and when he knew it. and what did the other republican leaders sort of no talk to him about behind the scenes here. the american people need to know and have the right to. i'm excited by this bipartisan committee. and in serious investigative body, it has not turned into the partisan circus that i think mccarthy wanted it to. >> kinzinger does not rule out a mccarthy subpoena, and touching on what was talked about briefly in our last segment, i want to get a quick reaction from both of you to this. from kevin mccarthy over the weekend. >> i want you to watch nancy pelosi hand me that gavel. [applause] >> his spokesperson
said he was joking joking about violence against the speaker of the house who has let us not forget was being hunted by a mob on january 6th. >> alice stewart speak to this cause he can speak to a better than i can, this is the republican party that i grew up with. can you imagine bob dole or reagan joking about hitting a woman. and to be a bit more deeper than that, this is not civility. it's not just a southern thing, it's a thing where we don't joke about hitting women. in that he can joke about hitting women tells us how we've evolved and how we've come in our politics. >> imagine this coming out of mitt romney? >> no of course not. >> look. these guys like mccarthy they know how to play this game. they go in they get favor from the rich and powerful and then they go and they speak to people who understand this
language. this is encouraging violence. this is sending part of a larger message to encourage those who want to intimidate people who support democracy. it's really not complicated and we are to just call it out for what it is. it's intimidation by violence by a leader in a major party of the united states. >> but he's not going to pay a price for it by his party. >> of course he won't. he does it because he gets applauded that's with the entire infrastructure in both the party was behind and january 6th. the president in his way out staff, the senators in the congressman and their staff. donors attorney generals out there, and they are terrified. >> the fundraising continues. thank you both we appreciate it. coming up, what you need to know about flying this summer, amid a new wave of flight
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despite the alarming surge in covid cases, americans are still going places. air travel is almost back to pre-pandemic levels. all those travels have airlines scrambling to keep up with demand. nbc news correspondent has this report. >> amid this summer surge and air travel, frustration and anger as airlines have re-booked passengers without asking. different flights, different seats, different departure and arrival times. and customers are forced to wait for hours just to talk on the phone with a representative. some venting on twitter. the wait time is six hours six, please help. how can an airline rain and we change your entire fleet. florida doctor's -- book tickets to idaho for family wedding, only to have his airline changes tickets
twice, from a 7 am departure to 5 pm. then a 14-hour wait for a return phone call. >> they bumped us just about the last flight jumping over four other flights that got in earlier. no explanation other than flay changes. >> filter airlines concedes it struggling to meet the post-covid command in juggling planes and crews. many it does not have enough customer service. reps in an email to customers delta ceo rights, we assure you these challenges are temporary. adding that it's hiring more than 5000 people across the business. southwest fear in american who also struggled canceling flights and rebooking passengers. >> we've seen is we've seen the airlines attempt to come back to full service overnight, and they just have not been able to do it. if an airline changes your ticket should not charge you a change fee but if you change your ticket some airlines will charge leafy. >> there and lies the rub. tom costello thank you for that
the last thing before we go tonight, a quick olympics update. american gymnast jane carey won the gold medal on floor exercise today. the 21-year-old from arizona shared it with her coach, who also happens to be her dead. the middle is the fifth by the u.s. women's gymnastics team. and tomorrow olympic superstar simone biles plans to compete in the balance beam final in her return to the games. it comes a faster she took a break from competitions, citing mental health concerns. now if you want to watch biles compete, and who doesn't, you better be up early. the balance beam final begins at 4:50 am eastern. a quick reminder, you can hear the latest news and updates from all your favorite msnbc hosts anytime, anywhere on any
device, go to union.com, slash msnbc 2021. to listen commercial free with june in premium. that is our broadcast this monday night, with our thanks for being with us. on behalf of all my colleagues at the networks of nbc news, goodnight. >> tonight on all in. the nationwide rising covid cases continues, and so it is the red state race to the bottom. >> we've got republican governors across this country pretending they didn't shut down their states. >> tonight the republican governor doing the best job in holding the delta variant at bay. then, surgeon general vivek nervy on a genuine vaccine church across america. plus the new yorkers jane mayer and the dark money funding the big lie. and why is this congresswoman above to spend her fifth straight night sleeping on the steps of the capital? >> we can't go on as we can go on vacation with
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