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heard, he had to be -- he had to expect there was something coming out after sitting with 11 hours with investigators and admitting some of the conduct at least according to attorney general james. danny zavalos and daniel alonso who we will be speaking with shortly. i want to thank you for being with me this hour. that wraps up for msnbc. i'm jose diaz-balart. thank you for the privilege of your time. "andrea mitchell reports" starts right now. this is "andrea mitchell reports." the breaking news is out of new york where new york state attorney general letitia james has delivered a withering report on alleged sexual harassment by governor andrew cuomo. >> the independent investigation has concluded that governor andrew cuomo sexually harassed multiple women and in doing so
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violated federal and state law specifically the investigation found that governor andrew cuomo sexually harassed current and former new york state employees by engaging in unwelcome and nonconsensual touching and making numerous offensive comments of a suggestive and sexual nature that created a hostile work environment for women. this investigation has revealed conduct that corrodes the very fabric and character of our state government and shines light on injustice that can be present at the highest levels of government, but none of this, none of this would have been illuminated if not for the heroic women who came forward, and i am inspired by all of the brave women who came forward,
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but more importantly, i believe them. and i thank them for their bravery. >> the attorney general's report says there were 11 women who were harassed including current and former state employees. one of whom is a new york state trooper. investigators saying the witnesses describe these incidents in great detail. >> the governor also several times inappropriately touched a state trooper assigned to the unit to protect the governor. in an elevator while standing behind the trooper he ran his finger from her neck down her spine and said hey, you. another time she was standing holding the door open for the governor. as he passed he took his open hand and ran it across her stomach from her belly button to the hip where she kept her gun. she told us she felt completely violated to have the governor
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touch her, as she put it between her chest and her privates. >> governor cuomo in the past apologized, but has denied any wrongdoing and more recently he's become more aggressive challenging the independents of the investigators. joining me now, nbc news investigations correspondent tom winter. nbc justice correspondent pete williams, and legal analyst lisa brown and daniel alonso, former chief assistant d.a. for manhattan and former federal prosecutor. first, tom winter, take us through the main findings of this investigation. >> right, andrea. this sweeping investigation which began in march of this year and wrapped up today, obviously, with the governor's interview just 17 days ago included 70 subpoenas, 74,000 documents, 179 interviews. 41 of those under oath, and 280 tips from the public. the investigation and the invest over 160 pages details very specifically the allegations
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raised by 11 women. it says what they accuse the governor of. it also goes into the governor's responses to some of those claims, some of which he refutes and paints in a different context and some of which he says he does not recall. it goes into corroborating information and in other words, what other information were they able to develop over the course of the investigation that would help corroborate the claims made by those women and as you detailed, it goes into how the governor's office handled some of these claims and some of these reports when they were first brought to their attention. the attorney general mincing no words saying that this violated state criminal law as well as federal law, but i think one of the things that's important to note here is that the attorney general also said this is a civil matter and this is a civil investigation and at this point they are not seeking any sort of criminal charges. andrea, she also said ann clark who helped lead this investigation along with june
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kim, she said any police department or prosecutorial department is free to look at the allegation which is is now public and what has been corroborated and pursue any sort of criminal action should they want to do so. a couple of other things that i noted from this report, first off, they do mention that cnn's chris cuomo who is an anchor in the evening prime time did help counsel the governor as to how to respond to some of these claims and the attorney general also said that a separate investigation looking into whether or not any public funds or public employees were used to help the governor write his book about the handling of the pandemic. that investigation and that review is ongoing and there's been no conclusions there. a couple of important things to note and he's been much more vocal about this recently has refuted the claims that have been made. he calls into question the independence of this investigation, however it's important to know that the governor and his counsel wanted this investigation in the first
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place. the only reason why this investigation occurred is because they made a referral to the attorney general's office and on top of that, they said it would be inappropriate for the governor and under state law the governor would typically get a report every single week of this independent inquiry. they said that's not appropriate in this instance because we're looking into the governor's behavior. so instead, give us one big public report at the end. the only reason why we are here and this is public is because the governor's office wanted it. they raised concern about bias by june kim for the southern district of new york. the investigation into joseph rococo, the u.s. attorney's office and while june kim was involved in that case, the net result of that investigation was a guilty verdict by a new york jury. so it's unclear where the bias may come in, but that's something that the governor has
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said. andrea? >> pete, let me ask you a related question. there was a nursing home investigation into his handling during the pandemic. do we know anything about whether that continues on a separate track? >> it does continue and it is on a separate track and as to whether there would be charges that would flow from what we learned about today, the attorney general said there were potential violations of both state and federal statutes. the federal is the civil rights law that makes it illegal to discriminate against employees on the basis of several factors including sex. and the court has long held sexual harassment is a form of discrimination on the basis of sex, but of course, proving it in on court is difficult. you have to prove it was severe and pervasive to the amount that it would be a hostile work environment in the sense that you could be prosecuted by a prosecutor, but you could be sued invoking this federal statute in a civil lawsuit. >> and lisa, let's talk about
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the impact of 11 witnesses here. the detail that is being described. let me play just one example also of the governor. -- sorry. i'm sorry. we're going to show you the governor next week and first, let me ask you about that detail, lisa green, about the graphic details. >> we've spoken about sexual harassment cases before, and i cannot remember the instance of someone with credible evidence sexually harassing a state official who was wearing a gun. the 11 women, mounds of documents, 11 hours spent investigating the governor. that wasn't small talk and that was confronting him with a mountain the evidence and women telling a very similar story, a story of a hall of mirrors where you wanted to come forward if you were one of these complainants and complain to
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someone in the office about what seemed to you like actual harassment only to find stonewalling and a culture of fear and one other point to make, andrea. the investigators made this clear, this is not the behavior of an old school boss who hasn't gotten the memo that it's the 21st century. this was pervasive activity that violates laws. >> and lisa, let me just ask you to follow up on that. there have been a number of women who have not previously come forward and identified themselves who are named in this report. so we want to reach out to them before we go ahead and name them, but one of them was charlotte bennett, and she spoke to cbs in march about her accusation of cuomo questioning her about her history of sexual abuse as a survivor. let's play that back right now. >> i think abusers look for
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vulnerabilities, previous traumas, the idea that maybe i'm more willing to accept behavior because i have a history of sexual violence. perhaps i'm not as confident in myself because of my history. >> you think he knew that? >> yeah. >> you think he was grooming you? >> yeah. >> that was charlotte bennett, of course, talking to norah o'donnell on cbs. lisa green, these women have options. they can sue. what about any actions that might be taken against the officials in his inner circle, these top officials who in some ways and i don't know what the legal term is, not carried out any duties. is there any action on which they would be vulnerable? >> yeah. without having studied it in
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detail it seems to me that some of them might have some liability based on some of the laws that he just discussed, but again, as pete says that's a high bar and so far, none of the women have come out individually to make any complaints, complaints that they're entitled to make under the law either civilly or in the case of inappropriate touching criminally. so i'm sure there's a lot of disquiet in the governor's offices right now as these officials who are named and described as being accessories, if you will, to this harassment and not in the legal term are wondering if the shoe will drop. >> governor cuomo said new yorkers would be shocked if they knew what happened. let's watch what he said. >> i am very eager to get the facts to the people of this state, and i think when they hear the actual facts of what
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happened and how the situation has been handled, i think they're going to be shocked. shocked, and i am eager for the truth to come out here and new yorkers will be shocked. >> daniel alonso, as a former prosecutor, where do you see all of this headed? >> holy cow on the allegations. i mean, this is by all accounts a scathing report by two very respected investigators. if i were staffing this, i would specifically pick a respected employment lawyer like ann clark and a federal prosecutor who is used to getting lied to and seeking the truth in interviews like june kim. so this is a very strong report stressing of course, that we have to keep an open mind with governor cuomo who has not yet reacted publicly to the report, but i think that to me the most interesting thing is the intersection between politics and professional investigation here, right? the attorney general said the criminal authorities can do
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whatever they can. what she didn't say is she has authority under noncriminal law to do additional things. for one thing, she can file a complaint herself for sexual harassment, discrimination and hostile work environment with the state division of human rights and that power was increased by governor cuomo two years ago in 2019 and the other thing that no one has mentioned as of yet, but i think is very relevant is that, yeah, the people in the chamber and the governor himself could be referred for ethics violation for the commission on public ethics and there are specific rules in the state code of ethics that can punish state employees to further personal interests and for using their job to secure unwarranted privileges for other people and for doing things that cause people to question, you know, their sacred trust as employees, so all those things can be brought out and it was interesting that the attorney general didn't mention them. she just kind of, i think, thinking my job is done, and i'm
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not sure i want to go any further here, but she could easily have made a criminal referral and she could make a referral to the commission on ethics and she could make a complaint with the division of human rights. we'll see how that all plays out with those agencies and it's a very strong report, and i think it will have some severe fallout and we'll see what that is. >> and joining us now is lisa lair, political reporter for "the new york times" and susan dellpersicc who worked as an adviser to governor cuomo. we've heard from the speaker of the general assembly saying they'll take up this report and will look through it and investigate what more could they do? he's in the final year of a term, was anticipating running for re-election. what do you expect? i mean, the impeachment issue could be front and center if the
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general assembly were to turn on the governor? >> i think there's a couple of questions that this report raises. one is whether what's coming out of this report fuels the impeachment inquiry which is looking at some of these allegations of sexual harassment, but goes well beyond to look at the governor's role and the misreporting of covid deaths in nursing homes whether it's political favoritism and vaccine distribution and covid testing. that has been moving at a bit of a slow burn. it accelerates the pace of that investigation. then we have to see whether this report causes public opinion to turn on the governor so far. democratic primary voters have largely been standing by him that could change. this was an extremely damning report and the scope of it was really quite extraordinary. the number of allegations and the source of the allegations particularly the allegation from the state trooper who was assigned to guard the governor and then there's a big question about how the party reacts. do we hear stronger statements
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from president biden, from members of the new york delegation saying this is enough and they would like to see the governor either resign or not run for that fourth term. so we'll just have to wait and see how the various political actors react to this report, but it's not -- it's certainly not the day they think the governor and his team were hoping for. that's for sure. >> indeed, susan del percio, let's talk about that political fallout. all eyes will be on senator schumer and senator gillibrand. and she's been leading on these issues in terms of al franken. you can expect that anything that they say and president biden will be very, very important. >> absolutely. and we know the two senators have already called for governor cuomo to resign. as a matter of fact, there are several officials who have kept their mouth shut while the
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investigation continued, but this is certainly going to put a lot more pressure, like you mentioned on president biden, but the political fallout is going to have huge repercussions all over the place, and i have to say, someone who worked in that office, i know how toxic that environment was, and how frightened people would be to speak out against the governor or even to his face, but the fact that a state trooper testified and as one of your guests said earlier, someone who carries a gun was sexually harassed by the governor still has me shaking just an hour after hearing it. >> pete williams, let's talk about that. you covered politics and you covered the law and you do it all. just the context, here's a leading figure in the democratic party and he was a cabinet official in the clinton administration, and has been controversial for being a very
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aggressive, political player and the son of a legendary governor whom i covered, as well and that state trooper, the details from her and other witnesses, pretty graphic. >> members of the legislature area already starting to react to this report saying they'll get the full details thereafter and i suspect the consequences for the governor are now beginning to come in and we won't understand what seismic effect this has had on the new york political establishment for another 24 hours or so, and i suspect the governor himself will have to calibrate his own thinking about what to do now as he goes forward. >> and let's watch a bit of what he said in march. i think before he had fully evaluated and this is how he apologized and how he himself asked for this referral. >> i now understand that i acted
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in a way that made people feel uncomfortable. it was unintentional, and i truly and deeply apologize for it. i feel awful about it and frankly, i am embarrassed by it. and that's not easy to say. i never touched anyone inappropriately. i certainly never, ever meant to offend anyone or hurt anyone or cause anyone any pain. i was elected by the people of the state of new york. i'm not going to resign. >> tom winter, he repeatedly
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said i never touched anyone inappropriately. this report alleges that he did, and after that march statement he reverted to being very aggressive and challenging the independence of the two prosecutors. >> that's right. and i think, you know, an important thing to remember here with respect to the touching, this is corroborated by pictures in the instance of one woman whose governor's hands are literally pressed against the side of her face. that's an allegation that comes up in this report with respect to the new york state trooper and other troopers witnessed the behavior including the touching, according to the report and that's what the report says and that's important to remember in all of this, andrea. one other thing about the state trooper incident is that according to the report, they received, the new york state police received a request for comment from albany's newspaper,
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"the times union" asking about apparently a waiver or a change to the rules, so typically, you have to have four years on the job as a state trooper before you could be assigned to the protective detail and it was changed to three years apparently to have the woman, the female trooper who says she was harassed by the governor to get put on to that detail so that raises some interesting questions. the second thing is that apparently the times union was lied to in their response and they said that wasn't the case and they took umbrage that the question was even asked. so it's that type of little details here, andrea, and the legal analyst with whom you've spoken with here can provide more context into it, but those types of levels of details that this report uncovered an investigation that began in earnest in mid-march of this year. those details can be so helpful in trying to corroborate and
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help provide additional context behind just the statements made by those victims which as the attorney general made very clear are statements that she wholeheartedly believe, andrea. >> daniel alonso, we now have a statement from deborah katz, a very well-known lawyer who is representing charlotte bennett and this would certainly would suggest that there may be some civil actions by a number of these women if not charlotte bennett herself because it says that he subjected charlotte to sexual harassment individually and created a hostile and toxic work environment for all women. sadly, charlotte was not the only extraordinary woman whose career in the executive department was cut short and derailed as a result of the governor's behavior. the governor's actions have -- that charlotte and many others refused to submit to his advances have to offer, and they
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say that governor cuomo sexually harassed his executive assistant and covered it up. the governor came on to charlotte and made unwelcome sexual advances toward her in his personal offices during the height of the covid-19 pandemic. the actions he took against charlotte fit the very definition of sexual harassment under executive department policy and further violated new york state law. so certainly, the suggestion from deborah katz, we know she's represented a number of other women and has a great deal of experience in this field. daniel alonso, it would indicate that at least there may be some legal actions taken by one or another of these women. >> for sure. i would have been very surprised if there weren't any additional legal action to be taken. that sort of thing is expected in matters like this, and i think it would be boosted by the thorough investigation conducted by june kim and ann clark. i will say that on the other side, we haven't heard from governor cuomo yet.
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he will no doubt say or his spokespeople will that the civil suit and the prospect of a monetary settlement is some sort of incentive not to exactly be truthful. that gets said a lot in matters like this. i think that will probably fall flat because i'm betting that based on what we heard today that this is a very well documented investigation. i think the allegation of bias on june kim's part is nonsense, frankly, and i think that this is, you know, not good news for the governor that there are going to be civil claims, but also completely expected. >> lisa lerer, let's talk about the fact that he has only one more year in office before he has to make the decision to run again and he's indicated he's going to, but your political judgment now of the democratic party and what's happening in albany?
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part of the governor's tactic has been to run out the clock and make it harder for any primary challenger to raise money and build the kind of support necessary to mount a report against him. that could have substantially changed today given how damning that was. given the issue that primary challengers had and there were several people who were considering running against him, they weren't running against cuomo if the proceeding moves forward and it's a little bit clear that he will be wounded in some way given the detail of this report and how it was managed and it's hard to level the accusations of political bias. she did not call for his resignation. she did not refer to criminal charges. so i think anyone who is looking at this and thinking about it can feel pretty confident that they're dealing with a governor who will be wounded.
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whether governor cuomo decides to continue his effort to go for the fourth term remains to be seen. it's something that his father was unable to achieve, but this is going to be a sticky situation for him to get out of politically, and we have to see how the next 24 hours roll out and how the broader democratic party responds. they've certainly staked their claim on being the party that takes sexual harassment claims extremely seriously and doesn't tolerate them and the ranks will have to see how they all play out now that cuomo finds himself in this situation. >> and susan del percio, just to button this down. there are a number of players and you have eric adams who is the democratic nominee and presumptive next mayor of the city of new york and bill de blasio who has been a political rival from the same party as mayor of the city of new york to say nothing about the president of the united states. which is a big challenge for the
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democrats and especially for someone like chuck schumer who leaped ahead in organizing the democratic senate caucus against al franken because they were concerned about being vulnerable and losing an issue against republicans in an upcoming election and all of that's in play with the mayoral race since september. >> it absolutely is, and you bring up two critical names in this, chuck schumer, who you have to remember until he was majority leader had an awful relationship with the governor. governor cuomo is not known for building relationships. he tears down people. he looks to always outdo them. so he had a bad relationship with leader schumer and when you bring up eric because the only constituency that governor cuomo had pretty much behind him with the allegations were the afghan american community. he was still able to hold on to that leadership.
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eric adams holds a very critical voice now as the presumed next mayor of new york city. so it will be interesting to see what he does here. he's not one to hold back. he pretty much calls it the way he sees it. so i expect a statement from eric adams sooner rather than later, but the most important thing when it comes to looking towards the governor's future is you usually want to count on your friends. he doesn't have any. >> lisa lerer, susan del percio, tom winter, lace green, daniel alonso, thanks to you, to pete william, if i didn't mention, just thanks to everyone as this breaking news, important breaking news has dominated our first half hour, but coming up, the covid crisis, of course, why children are more at risk for getting the delta variant and a warning to pregnant women. stay with us. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports." this is msnbc. reports. this is msnbc. are made a choice.
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and this breaking news. this update, governor cuomo will be responding at 1:00 to the allegations in that scathing report of sexual harassment by multiple women. we will, of course, bring that to you live, but we are also following breaking news at the pentagon where a lockdown was in place after a shooting at a bus stop just outside headquarters. >> that's right, andrea. we can report the lockdown was lifted for most of the building. so the pentagon metro entrance that you mentioned, that is actually on the pentagon reservation or on the grounds here, but our understanding is that this incident occurred just outside of the building, but on the grounds. so arlington county is tweeting that, in fact, they encountered multiple patients when they arrived here after some sort of a shooting event. we have very little information
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about exactly what occurred here, but we know that there was a report of shots fired and multiple patients here when the arlington county arrived. pentagon force protection or pentagon police also, of course, responded and there is a large police response and fire response just behind me on the other side of the highway here, but it's important to point out, andrea, that this is occurring on the pentagon reservation and as of now we don't have reports inside the building and we are still waiting for specific information about who may have been shot here, andrea. >> thank you so much. courtney kube from outside the metro station where this occurred and as courtney points out on the pentagon reservation. the coronavirus, meanwhile, tightening its hold over the country amid a race to vaccinate more americans. the delta variant driving a rise in new infections and covid deaths are now spiking in at least 12 states. new york city mayor bill de
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blasio today announcing that proof of vaccination will be required for indoor dining and gyms in the city and an indoor mask mandate is now being implemented around the country. including especially in hard-hit louisiana. >> we have to do our part to slow transmission in order to buy ourselves the time necessarily to get people vaccinated and so that we can reverse the current trend which is are the very worst right here in louisiana. that's a miserable place to be. >> the governor of louisiana and a breakthrough of covid cases reached the u.s. capitol, fully vaccinated senator, lindsay graham con firmed he contracted covid on senator joe manchin's boat in washington. no word yet on who else was exposed and a number of other senators were there from both
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parties and it could affect votes on infrastructure if any of the democrats have to quarantine and president biden is focused on the pandemic this afternoon giving a major address on the battle against the racing virus. the administration is touting 70% of u.s. adults have gotten a shot and will announce that more than 100 million vaccine doses have been shipped to more than 60 countries. morgan chesky at a hospital in baton rouge, louisiana, and louisiana has one of the lowest vaccination rates in the country. new infections there spiking by 240% in just two weeks. more children are now among the sick. what can you tell us? >> an absolutely heartbreaking situation. we are at our lady of the lake health center and the largest hospital in the state and they've broken their all-time record for hospitalizations
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related to covid. they have the bed, but simply don't have the staff. they are get something help from federal team that was dispatched here over the weekend, but we're looking at these trends, andrea, that continue to rise and among those admissions here as you mentioned are younger patients. we know 50% under the age of 50. we just checked today and we know there are eight children here at the hospital being treated for covid and at least one in icu and the youngest patient recently admitted a 3 week old infant and that is why doctors here say vaccinations need to happen at a much more rapid clip so that this is just somehow contained spreadwise with this new delta variant. what a chief medical officer told me in an interview. take a listen. >> you have people in hospital rooms with covid asking for the vaccine. >> that's right. that's right. that tells you what the fundamental misunderstanding is. if you don't understand how vaccination works and you are
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bombarded with incorrect information and fear about the vaccine you're never going to come to it yourself. the most frustrating part is the missed opportunity. nobody had to die this week. nobody. >> and it's that realization that is so frustrating for this staff here at the hospital. there is another gentleman that is being intubated here at the hospital. his wife and their child still not vaccinated because they told officials here they somehow don't trust it. andrea? >> thanks to you, morgan chesky, kristen dahlgren, more pregnant women now are being urged to get vaccinated after some concerns about side effects earlier. you spoke to a mom who regretted not getting the shot. tell us about that. >> right. she has such a harrowing story, andrea. you know, we know that being pregnant puts you at risk of complicated covid and it's
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frightening for moms on whether or not to get the vaccine. it is safe for pregnant women and stopped short of encouraging it and now obstetrician groups are saying they are encouraging all women, all pregnant women to get the covid vaccine. 140,000 pregnant women have already gotten the vaccine and they say the data that they're seeing from them shows that there is no risk of severe complications. as you said, we spoke with one mom and she decided not to get the vaccine and she got covid back in april in the beginning of may and she was hospitalized and she almost died and here's what she had to say about that. >> i toll my husband i feel like i'm drowning. all i can do is cry saying i'm putting my baby in harm's way because i was just too hard headed to get the vaccine. i would not wish what i went through on my worsten mean.
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>> they had to deliver that baby via c-section and born prematurely while her mother was in a medically induced coma and that woman has since gotten a vaccine and she has a warning for other moms-to-be and wants them to get the vaccine. we are learning as they study and continue to study the effects on pregnant women that women who get the vaccine while they are carrying their baby, they are detecting antibodies in the cord blood. those antibodies will be given to the baby and will be born, and the doctors are fueling the surge of pregnant women in hospitals and i spoke with one maternal fetal specialist in texas and said in the past three weeks they have seen more pregnant moms in the icu than in the entire pandemic combined. she said even in her entire medical career. so a lot of women who aren't
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getting the vaccine. she said every single one of those in the icu not vaccinated, andrea. >> morgan chesky, just heartbreaking. thanks to both of you. >> meanwhile, here in washington, millions of americans are now afraid of losing their homes after the federal eviction moratorium gave out over the weekend. so far washington has failed to come up with solutions and there's a lot of blame game going on stoking tensions between capitol hill and the biden white house for the first time. one of those house democrats has been protesting on the steps of the capitol since friday calling on her colleagues to bring the house back from recess to protect renters facing eviction. i am joined now by that member of congress, cory bush. thank you for joining us. you were camped out for a couple of nights on the capitol steps and leading protest. you have a personal story and your own experience in the past
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with homelessness. so tell us why you are trying to dramatize this? i think i know, with your background just how important this is to you. >> yeah. so we've been out here since friday. friday night. the hour before i decided and i spoke with representative alexandra ocasio-cortez and said hey, what about let's just stay out here and put out some chairs and she said i'm down. the hour before that i had no idea that that's what we would be doing and the idea that we can go on recess and we can go on vacation as the house of representatives while millions of people, upwards of 11 million people can end up being forced out of their homes, was there -- my brain couldn't comprehend
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that. so being out here, being uncomfortable and being cold. it has been raining and today is day five. i slept out here for four nights -- for three nights and the fourth night representative ocasio-cortez stayed and we switched off, but the rain falling on us, the -- and this is the thing, when you are already cold and then it rains on you in the rain it soaks your blankets and the ground is wet, what do you do? you are wet and cold and there's no place to go to get warm, you know? there are so many things and that's why i have to speak up and speak out because this is a temporary -- this is us being inconvenienced temporarily, but we are talking about people who will have to live this way if we don't do better and we haven't fixed the housing crisis as of yet. we complain about it, and we say we need to fix it, but we haven't met that need.
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how do we put more people out on the street? it's -- i understand what it's like to get that notice. i understand what it's like to sleep on the street, and i would not allow anyone else to do it, not while i'm sitting here in the u.s. house of representatives, and keep my mouth shut? no way. >> let me ask you this, congresswoman. there is change and not just from the progressive caucus of the democrats. there is real tension now clearly between nancy pelosi's office and other democrats and the white house because the white house only first notified the house that this expiration could not be stopped by executive action on thursday. the day before the house was leaving. the senate's still in session. i haven't heard anything yet from the senate democrats who lead the senate and nancy pelosi's position is that they're not going to take this up unless she knows that the senate is going to try to do something which they clearly don't have the votes for. so how does anyone defend the
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system where there's finger-pointing going back and forth. where was the white house for weeks and weeks. they know when this was supposed to expire? >> yeah. so that's why today we have both the speaker's office, my office and i know over the last few days there have been others from within congress saying we have to move forward with an eviction moratorium. this is an emergency in our country and we can't wait any longer and the time that it would take to get the house back and to vote, plus getting it through the senate. that's going to take a while. buy us some time to get it done. buy us some time so we're asking the white house to go ahead and do this. if there is a court challenge
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possibly, let's work on that when and if that happens and right now, the people don't care about if something could possibly happen and also if something does, we have to look at the weight of it. is it worse for the white house to get a court challenge or is it worse for millions of people to hit the streets and have no home? >> i'm going to say it's the ladder. there's no way that we will think about what's going to happen in court. a court challenge, and if we have to take the l, we made sure to keep the people that we are supposed to represent and they don't care about the blame game and who did what, when and they care about right now, today. there is a notice on my door saying pay or vacate and i don't have the money. i don't know what to do. my state, my local government, i'm fighting to get those resources that i was told are available through the era. i am having trouble. what do i do because my landlord
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does not care. that is what we have to deal with and deal with it today because it's happening already. >> and just to point out, if the white house has said that their hands are tied because of a supreme court ruling and you're saying, just do something by executive action and then deal with the court -- deal later on. we've got to go, but congresswoman cori bush, thank you so much for lighting a fire under this because millions and millions of people are exposed. >> thank you. >> thanks to you. >> thank you. and up next, more about that breaking news. moments from now, governor andrew cuomo expected to respond to the attorney general's report saying he sexually harassed 11 women. you are watching "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. . but get there faster, with better outcomes. with app, cloud and anywhere workspace solutions,
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more on our breaking news, governor cuomo making a statement in about ten minutes. lisa green and dan alonzo are with me. let's review the bidding. what the allegations are, how the governor is going to answer all of this after first apologizing, asking for this independent probe and then after march retreating to an aggressive posture.
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>> andrea, let me get you up to speed on couple of developments that occurred since we last spoke. the governor will respond at 1:00 p.m. to allegations. there appears to be no mechanism for which reporters can ask questions. right now, there's no indication to ask the governor any questions, he will make a statement at 1:00 p.m. in response to the report. we don't know what he is going to say. there's no indication at this point from the governor's office as to how the governor will respond. that's the first thing. second thing, political fallout is rolling in. the speaker sees the conduct -- they'll look at the report and investigation, they're in the process of peeking at that. second thing to talk about. third thing, laura kur en, an executive for nassau county on long island has called for the governor's resignation. back to the report, as you said,
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165 pages plus here looking into the allegations brought forth by 11 women, they were able to be corroborated. you look at the statement on screen about actions taken by senior staff to retaliate against at least one former employee, that particular instance the governor wanted to issue an op-ed that went through that person's background and personal history. apparently when the allegations came forward, senior member of the governor's staff asked for the person's full personnel file, detailed information about that person's background was shared with the press as one example. so this is something, there's a host of other allegations and findings of the report able to come up with the course of the investigation. we're still going through it, that's where things stand now. >> and dan alonzo, what about the legal impact. he is going to come out aggressively because that's been his posture the last couple of weeks. how does he rebut these multiple
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allegations? >> as with most things, the political and legal with andrew cuomo will be intertwined. everyone deserves defense and to be heard. we'll see exactly what he says, but it will be along the lines of what he has said before, that he didn't mean to make people feel uncomfortable, et cetera. i do think that it is going to be a little hard in this case because allegations are so strong. i also think that this has some resemblance to the situation in 2008. not saying he will resign, but it was harder for spitzer to get out from under allegations against him which involved frequenting prostituted women back then. and the reason for that is he had been so sankity moan yus when attorney general in terms of prosecuting organized prostitution rings. there's a parallel to governor cuomo, statements he made about
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sexual harassment in 2019 where he talked about persistent cultures of sexual harassment in new york state. those are going to come back to bite him. i don't know ultimately what the political fallout is, but i think there's an irony between what june kim said today about his findings about this horrible culture in the executive chamber and the governor's denunciation of cultures like that in new york workplaces. >> lisa green, senator gillibrand has spoken out, she already called for him to resign as had senator schumer, now calls the allegations deeply, deeply disturbing and again said he should resign. we've heard from the senate majority leader, general assembly leader earlier, the senate majority leader in albany saying, stewart cousins, saying it is clear cuomo can no longer serve as governor. lisa? >> you know, andrea, the gap between what was just discussed
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in the on the books promises if you are harassed sexually in new york state, the government is here to help you. behavior that's so detailed and appalling listed in a credible report, it is a wide gap and it is no surprise to me champions of women's rights like senator gillibrand are stepping up to say it is one thing to hear these women, to investigate their allegations, decide about their credibility, but there ought to be repercussions, consequences for this behavior so that the attorney general issued a report and said i'm going to leave it there. now we're waiting to see if behavior like this, behavior that at least the report credibly alleges has violated several laws will result in repercussions for the bad actors. i think it is fair to say that's something that any woman that comes forward, even in 2021, with difficult personal allegations that can lead to a lot of recriminations, that's the least they would hope to
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expect. >> lisa, just can say any woman voter, any woman out there, no matter what your political party, there's a gut reaction, gut wrenching reaction to the allegations among women just in the workplace. >> it is so regrettable, andrea, but i can't think of a woman that doesn't read the allegations, the allegations we read about harvey weinstein and other powerful men and think there but for the grace of god, this reminds of it happened in office. >> thanks for joining me today. that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." chuck todd has governor cuomo's response next on "mtp daily" only on msnbc. t onmt "p daily" only on msnbc. ries evolving with the world. that's the nature of being the economy.
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welcome to "mtp daily." at any moment, we expect governor cuomo to respond the first time to a stunning report that finds credibly that he sexually harassed several women. we'll bring in remarks as soon as they happen. let's layout what's out there. the report by new york state attorney general, will he tish a james, says he harassed 11 women, retaliated against a former employee who came forward with her own harassment allegations. the report depicts his office as hostile work environment, core owed by fear and intimidation. >> governor cuomo harassed currents and former employees in violation of federal and state laws. the independent investigation found governor cuomo sexually harassed multiple women, many of