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assembly. cuomo is facing criminal inquiries with the district attorneys of manhattan, albany and new york where cuomo lives when questioning the attorney general's office. in a pre-recorded video message the governor denied any wrongdoing. >> i never touched anyone inappropriately or made inappropriate sexual advances. that is just not who i am. >> in response, one of cuomo's accusers, former assistant charlotte bennett is calling for his immediate impeachment and resignation. >> we should impeach the governor because he clearly cannot accept responsibility for any of his behavior. it's sad that we have to be in this situation, but i'm also just so proud of the 11 of us. >> talking to our own kate snow. also this hour, the latest on the pandemic with the delta variant outpacing vaccinations and record high near-capacity hospitalizations in florida and arkansas.
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>> whenever the younger patients are here it's hard to have those end of life conversations. 21-year-olds are supposed to live. they're not supposed to die of a virus. >> but first, to our top story, governor cuomo. joining me now, nbc correspondent gabe gutierrez in albany, new york. pbs newshour and washington week anchor yamiche alcindor. dan goldman for the southern district of new york and ails served as democratic counsel for president trump's impeachment and susan del percio. gabe, first of all, the calls for the governor to resign are growing louder and louder in albany, in manhattan, throughout state and throughout the country with the president leading this and now the growing threat of impeachment by the state assembly. >> yes, andrea, you're right. you mentioned some of the legal pressure, as well and today we learned that both the manhattan
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d.a. and the westchester county d.a. are asking for investigative materials in addition to albany's d.a. which asked for those yesterday and now the political fallout is mounting, andrea, here at the state house lawmakers including democrats are openly discussing impeachment and the assembly speaker here said in a statement yesterday that cuomo had lost the confidence of the democratic majority here. still, it could take about a month, at least before the state assembly finishes its impeachment and cuomo might be stripped of his powers and the matter would then go to the state senate and judges from the state's highest court and that would require a two-thirds vote in order to formally remove cuomo from office. a lot of questions here about the timetable, andrea, but if cuomo is convicted and removed from office it would be the first time that would happen in the state of new york in more
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than a century. andrea? >> thanks so much, gabe, and to dan goldman. nbc's lester holt spoke to the albany d.a. david soares last night. listen to what he had to say about a criminal probe. >> the allegations early on certainly led myself and other prosecutors with concurrent jurisdiction to believe that criminal activity, in fact, had taken place, but we will conduct our own independent investigation. it will be done expeditiously, and we will arrive at those conclusions. >> dan, as an experienced prosecutor and even though the westchester d.a. and manhattan are getting into this in terms of inquiries, there may be federal laws broken, but aren't those cases hard to prosecute? his greatest vulnerability, i should say on the civil side? >> yes, andrea, you're right. there are no federal laws and criminal laws that would apply here. there are misdemeanor state laws
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against forcible touching and other harassment and inappropriate contact. i think the d.a.s are doing their proper due diligence to see what the evidence is and see whether this rises to the level of something that would be prosecuted, but these cases are generally difficult to prove. they require a lot of resources. i do agree with you. i think that governor cuomo's most concerning consequences are both political and civil in nature rather than criminal. >> and susan, governor cuomo apologized in his video, his pre-tape video to one of his accusers his former executive assistant charlotte bennett and he blamed her for reading too much into their conversations because she'd been a sexual assault survivor and he said he was trying to mentor her.
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she had the interaction with her ex-boss that was a textbook abuse case and listen to what he said and her response. >> i've heard charlotte and her lawyer, and i understand what they are saying, but they read into comments that i made. they ascribe motives i never had, and simply put, they heard things that i just didn't say. charlotte, i want you to know that i am truly and deeply sorry. >> he sexually harassed me. i am not confused. it is not confusing. i am living in reality and it's sad to see that he's not. his intention was trying to sleep with me. >> and that was charlotte to norah o'donnell. susan, is this a classic case of victim shaming, of trying to gaslight her? >> it absolutely is, only andrew
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cuomo would go on air and basically say that the accuser is nuts and not him and thinks that's an apology. this is exactly why he got into this position in the first place, and even if he believes that maybe something could be misunderstood, it still shouldn't have happened in the first place, and if he doesn't know that he shouldn't be in office o in fact, leading any organization. his behavior was wrong. it was sexual harassment. there are 11 women who came out and in this report found credible. the governor is not credible when he speaks to this and yet he just wants to bump her down and blame the victims and it's worth noting, andrea, that the first thing out of his mouth is this has been very difficult for me and my family. i think, you know what? this was very difficult for the victims and their families.
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>> and yamiche, you were questioning the president yesterday and we have a new poll. i think this is a marrist poll. nearly 60% of new yorkers are calling for cuomo to step down. how long can he hold on to his office? >> it's a great question and this, in some ways, are central to what state lawmakers in new york start to do. they will be moving expeditiously in terms of an impeachment process here, but when it comes to the political issue here, you have now the president of the united states, president joe biden at this white house saying he should resign, and of course, you have all of the top democrats and at least a lot of the top democrats including house speaker nancy pelosi and chuck schumer. andrew cuomo is a longtime friend of the president. he's someone who the president knew very well and knew for a long time. i thought it was also striking that in his response and his
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rebuttal that he put out that served 85-page paper that he released to andrew cuomo that he included photos of the president in that, photos of president biden, but president biden was very clear yesterday. he thinks he should resign. i questioned the president, do you think he should be prosecuted. he hadn't seen that in detail. in march president biden said yes, he should resign if these allegations are true and he said he'll probably also be prosecuted, too. there's not only a question of how long can the governor continue to remain in office, but also will he face any sort of legal challenges, either criminal or civil and the answer on the civil side seemed to be yes and the criminal one is a big question. >> we are just now watching what you just alluded to and stay with me for a second in this. he included in the pre-recorded defense release the video of all of these other politicians including him kissing his
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mother. you see him there, his mother, matilda, al sharpton and there were pictures of the president and george w. bush, comforting victims. i mean, to try to analogize what he is alleged to have done by these 11 credible women to letitia james, the attorney general to normal political behavior, yamiche -- well, i cannot imagine that it would make president biden to be included in his montage of defense. >> in talking to white house officials, even the white house himself would not comment directly about this even though he commented about it. there is this sort of cringe that happens when you have someone, a governor who has not been accused not only of sexual harassment, but of sexual abuse and creating a toxic work environment and former president
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obama and adding pictures and what they do to his rebuttal. >> it's stunning and it underscores who governor cuomo is, and he is someone who is ready for a fight. he is someone who thinks he can hold on and when i'm talking to democrats i am points to former president trump who held on after dozens and dozens of women accused him of sexual harassment, abuse and rape he was able to still be president and now has a lot of power in the republican party and that's in some ways what andrew cuomo is trying to hang on to power and act a bit trumpian here. democrats don't seem to have the same appetite for this sort of behavior that the gop has. >> 21 women and also holding on after the "access hollywood" tape was revealed when he was first running for office. so that is the playbook to just outlast the outrage, if he can. >> dan, i just want to ask you
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about the state trooper allegations that are encompassed in this brief because that could be the most promising, if there were some kind of legal action. she was brought in after only two years and she hadn't met the three-year requirement and he picked her out to bring her on to his detail and then the allegations of the inappropriate touching that she said she felt violated. >> yes. and of particular note, those allegations were not referenced by governor cuomo in his response and rebuttal and they are new. we did not know those allegations previously, but it's not only the inappropriate touching. it's the pattern of inappropriate touching with the trooper and then the trooper, i believe, is in the jurisdiction of the westchester county d.a. where mimi rocca is the former
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msnbc legal analyst and mimi asked for specific evidence related to that state trooper, but one of the defenses that governor cuomo had prior to the release of this report is that there was only one allegation of actual physical touching. the remaining allegations had to do with comments that he made that made women feel uncomfortable which is bad enough as susan pointed out, but with the state trooper, we now, as well as another individual, we now have three people who have alleged credibly according to the investigators that governor cuomo touched them inappropriately and that is a matter entirely different. certainly different in degree than comments that could be construed one way or another, and from a criminal standpoint, a criminal prosecution, you would never want to put -- you would never want to charge a case where someone says it made
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me feel a certain way because when you have the standard of beyond a reasonable doubt and the words or the action are not obvious on their face, that's a very difficult case to prove, but when you have physical touching, that's an act. that's not an interpretation, and so the allegations related to the state trooper are perhaps the most serious and will be under scrutiny by the district attorney. >> and also proceed in the assembly. thanks so much to all of you and susan del percio. thanks to you. and max capacity, hospitals in some states are at a breaking point. the daily covid infections at levels not seen since last winter. some patients left having to hospital shop to find an open bed. plus the new trend line experts are finding about children in the delta variant. you are watching "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc.
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it's very real the hospital shortage. it's absolutely very real. i think what we agree is that covid is real, people get sick from -- shh! shh! >> there was one person. [ inaudible ] >> arkansas's republican governor asa hutchinson being heckled by people who still refuse to believe that the coronavirus is real. like other states, arkansas just
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broke a record in hospitalizations seeing a 65% increase in new cases over the last two weeks. and ambulances across arkansas are being turned away from hospitals in unprecedented numbers as administrators warn residents they're simply running out of room. joining me is ellison barber. thank you for being with us. >> how dire is the situation on the ground for these patients? >> so monday in arkansas, it was the highest increase in covid hospitalizations this state has seen since the pandemic began. vaccination rates are starting to pick up and they are still well behind the national average about 40% of the people who live in this state who are eligible to be vaccinated to be fully vaccinated and not only are covid cases rising, but covid hospitalizations, they are up and those are largely up among the unvaccinated 90% + of people
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hospitalized are unvaccinated. ambulances are being turned away because hospitals do not have enough staff beds for the patients needing care be it for covid-19 or something else. i spoke to one family who saw the impacts of that first hand, the mcfaddens. ashley mcfadden, she's 20 years old and last week on monday her brother who is immunocompromised and has a number of different health issues, he got really, really sick and needed to go to the hospital. she called 911, but she said when the paramedics arrived they told her family they didn't have anywhere to take them, the closest hospital they were diverting all of their ambulances and so was another hospital down the road. the paramedics that they were with, they called. tried to go to at least four different hospitals and it took at least 14 hours for them to
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finally find trey mcfadden a bed. listen to some of what his sister told us. >> in that 14 hours of waiting did you ever think that maybe your brother might not survive? >> oh, the moment i called 911 i thought whenever i was going to walk into his room i thought he would be dead. >> he cent survive without the care he needs right now and that's his life and his unfortunate circumstance. >> reporter: we really cannot say it enough that when we're talking about capacity, it is not just the number of beds and it is not just square feet. it is staff and there are not an unlimited numbers of doctors who are able to treat people needing a level of care that requires hospitalization. andrea? >> and these patients are younger and younger. ellison barber, thank you so much. joining us now is dr. shawstein
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from the school of public health. this is increasingly a crisis in more and more states and it's the delta variant accounting for u.s. coronavirus cases and 99.5% of those cases are people who are unvaccinated. dr. fauci just did a new interview this morning telling them, quote, mcclatchy newspapers, coronavirus cases driven by the delta variant are rising in a very steep fashion across the u.s. and may double in the coming weeks to 200,000 cases a day and warning that the country could be in big trouble entering the fall unless we get more people vaccinated. >> that's absolutely right and we're seeing it not just in the number of cases. there was a hope that we'd see cases without hospitalizations and death, but in fact, hospitalizations are rising very quickly among young adults and children who are almost at their peak of hospitalizations for the entire pandemic and so this is a
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very serious health crisis in the consequences that are evident in that terrible story from arkansas. >> so you know, we just saw that story from arkansas which he alludes to. here is a state where the legislature ruled out with the forced lifting on any mandate on mask business and the governor had to sign on that and had no choice, he said. we are seeing children now getting infected and hospitalized in increasing numbers. in arkansas alone, we are told between april and july of 2021 there's been a 517% increase for those under age 18 and a 690% increase for those under 12 who can't be vaccinated. what can parents do? what do they have to know? the most important thing parents can do is to get vaccinated themselves. they want to surround children who can't get vaccinated and the older kids can get vaccinated if they're 12 and up right now.
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i think there's no question that the benefits of the vaccines far exceed the risks for those kids at this point. this is a serious illness, and you know, the consequences can be severe in the short term and there can be long-term consequences, as well. i hope that, you know, the various posturing has been a feature of the pandemic. there are signs that it's starting to fade away, that even republican governors are realizing this is a life or death issue for people in their state and they have to follow the science in order to keep people alive. >> in san francisco, the health department is now going to allow any j&j, recipients of the single-dose vaccine to get a supplemental dose of an mrna vaccine which is not recommended by the cdc or fda. do you think it should be recommended, permitted or authorized? >> i don't think there's enough data to really know how
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important that is or frankly, whether there are any additional safety issues that people need to know. it would be nice to see a study of a lot of people who have that combination before making a clear recommendation. at the moment there are people who may have gotten the johnson and johnson vaccine and have an underlying condition which may mean they don't respond that well to vaccines, for example, and they're taking immunosuppressive medications. that's probably where i would come down right now. i don't think it's great for policies like this to be made on one-off basis for the population, and hopefully we'll see some consistent recommendations from the cdc and the fda. >> also today the world health organization is calling for a moratorium on vaccine boosters through at least september because they want the vaccines to go to people who really need them.
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we know globally this is becoming a big problem. covax is not doing what it was intended to do to get the doses to countries in africa. do you agree with that decision, by the world health organization? >> i certainly understand where they're coming from. this pandemic is really devastating countries and putting countries who have done incredibly well and these countries are seeing surges that they never saw before and everyone is vulnerable including health care workers and there aren't that many health care workers in some of these countries. i agree, an absolute, top priority will be vaccinating the older adults and critical health care workers in the country. i don't think the evidence is there for a broad use of booster shots ask we should have compelling data before we do something like that in the united states. >> dr. josh scharfstein, thank
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the taliban is claiming responsibility for a bombing in central kabul last night that targeted afghan's acting defense minister. he was not hurt, but officials say at least eight civilians were killed and 20 others wounded as the state department is accusing the taliban of massacring civilians in afghanistan which would amount to war crimes. joining me now is ben rhodes former security adviser for president obama. author of "after the fall." i want to talk to you about afghanistan. you were ambivalent about this, the decisions inherited from the trump administration you said there was no good option, but you worried about how this would evolve and it's evolved terribly. we've got a new visa program supposedly helping afghans who worked for human rights groups and others and other
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organizations saying you have to get to another country and be a refugee for 14 months and the special program for the translators is a disaster and we've had 400 people get out so far. others have been waiting for years, and kabul is itself under threat as well as kandahar, of course, and helmand province and they keep talking about the peace talks in doha and everyone is committed to it. how is the taliban committed to peace talks? >> clearly, the taliban is not committed to peace talks. their actions speak louder than their words and even their words aren't that good. >> the reality is the biden team inherited a deal that the taliban had essentially succeeded in getting out of the trump administration that involved the withdrawal of u.s. forces with very little concessions expected from the taliban. >> i think at this point the biden team has made a decision that they're diminishing returns
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from the involvement and we need to get out and what we've seen, andrea, to protect our forces leaving and the goal was to get them out as fast as possible in terms of taliban advances in terms of the people who work with us and what you have to be doing now is doing everything you can to mitigate risk. does that mean reinforcing through the long-term financial commitment the idea that the u.s. has a sustained commitment here? that means at times deploying u.s. air power as they have done, but really importantly, andrea, this means taking a hard look at these refugee programs because they're designed when talking about programs, interpreters and translators, they're designed to at best a few hundred people out and maybe into the low thousands and we're talking about tens of thousands of people who are at risk and the people who work with us and people at news organizations and focused on things like women's rights. we need a new way of thinking about this to get large numbers of those people out of afghanistan where they can be
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processed safely. the current design of the program just doesn't permit for the volume of people who are in danger right now. >> we are told that that has to be redone by congressional action and not by executive order. >> that's right, but i think you've seen from congress a willingness on a bipartisan basis to keep our moral obligation to people who stood by us. the biden administration has been ambivalent to some extent because they wanted to signal there was a future inside of afghanistan. people have reason to fear for their lives and we have to be creative about where to take those people because in the chaotic environment even when you have bombings in kabul that you can go through the normal process of being interviewed and people getting vetted, it's not going to be able to absorb the scale of people who feel that they're legitimately under danger now. so we have to be looking at their countries and looking at
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places with the u.s. military facilities and we have to have an open door to the people who stood with us over the last 20 years. >> and i want to turn to iran where a new, much more hard line president, everything is relevant there is being installed as we speak. now the secretary of state has proof that iran carried out a fatal drone attack off the coast of oman last week. we know that they are running their fast centrifuges they broke up after we dropped out under trump. are we at a dangerous point? there's no sign that we're coming back to the talks. >> i think what you've seen is, look, this escalation between iran and israel has gone on for a long time and they have these proxy attacks back and forth across the region and they're close because they can escalate and the new program which iran, since the trump withdraw from the jcpoa has been incrementally escalating the nuclear program
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where they can get within a period of time where they can break out and acquire material for weapons and clearly, the talks have been -- i wouldn't say derailed, but at a minimum put on hold as you have this transition in iran. i think what the biden team is going to have to do is prioritize, okay, how do we deal with the threat of this nuclear program escalating? if we can't get all of the way back to the jcpoa, andrea, you were there in which iran froze its nuclear activity in return for more limited sanctions, they'll start to turn toward solutions that aren't as robust as the jcpoa and it will at least stop the clock for the program and give time for diplomacy. ben rhodes, thank you so much. >> protests moving policy. after cori bush's remarkable protest, the temporary relief she and millions of americans are celebrating. simone's big moment after a roller coaster time in tokyo.
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the eviction moratorium was expiring, you know, telling congress they should do something. >> that's right. i think this is one of those cases in which a combination of both inside and outside pressure from congress was really able to move the white house and we frankly haven't seen that much of it in this all democrat-controlled washington where you have members of congress strongly pushing back against a white house decision with all of the disagreements in private thus far. you have speaker pelosi working the phones with the white house trying to offer back channel options for them as ways to get around to, yes and you had cori bush keeping this issue front and center in the public consciousness for several days in a way that it might not have been otherwise having the physical, visual presence on the steps making this an issue every single day and appears to have made a difference and she was celebrated by her democratic colleagues after the white house made this announcement.
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take a look at what happened on the steps last night. >> i'm so happy for you! i am so happy for you. i just -- all the people -- that's exactly right. and all their mamas and all their daddies get to stay in their homes, but it's also will the people who get on the front lines and they just need to see that it matters when a strong woman stands up and says i'm not moving. >> so a major victory for progressives, andrea, but as you point out, a temporary one and not least of which this order expires in october and almost certain to face legal challenges even before that. >> and the president said he was doing it even though he didn't think it would pass legal muster and he was doing it because of the pressure. cori bush who has said she herself had been homeless in the
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past and now is a member of congress. garrett, thanks so much. >> thank you. simone biles capturing the bronze medal in her return to the competition on tuesday saying it meant more to her than all of her golds to help her teammates win the silver and concentrate on her well-being, shining a light on mental health issues for athletes. today's hoda kotb sat down with biles. >> i don't know how to articulate how proud i am of you, but i am overflowing with pride. how do you feel? >> it's so crazy. i am happy to get back out there and do one more routine. >> take your brain out of it. >> i am proud of myself for pushing through and the dismount that i haven't done in years, that's all i wanted. i wasn't expecting to walk away with a medal, and i want to go out and do it for myself and i did. >> did you think about not doing
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it. >> in the beginning when i was in the dismount and i was, like, yes, and then i think i can do it and i feel good and i know i have a good beam set and i felt fairly confident. >> can you explain what the pressure feels like? >> it feels heavy and it feels like the weight of the world on my shoulders and i'm very small and when you get overwhelmed and have triggers i have to focus my mental well-being and that's what i did. >> you sure did. that was brave. >> it was hardworking five years for a dream and having to give it up. it was not easy at all. >> wow! >> and that was not what was planned. >> in the vault, you paused, you waited. tell me about that decision because that had to be made in that tiny moment. >> yeah. it was quick, but i also had to make that decision for the team because they worked so hard, and i couldn't lose a medal for those girls. so i decided to pull myself out, so if anything, i think by
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having me not in the competition they won the medal. i also don't think people realize doing that vault since i still landed on my feet, i didn't do the correct vault i was supposed to. i had no idea where i was in the air and you can literally see it in my eyes in the pictures. i was petrified. >> i didn't know where i was going to land. i had no idea where i was. >> that could have been career ending for you. >> yes. i was afraid i could heart myself. >> what was your lowest point? >> probably realizing or recognizing that i would only be remembered for my medals and everything until one morning i woke up and thought i am more than my medals and gymnastics and i've done courageous things out of this sport as well and i'm not a quitter and it took all of that realizing to see that because i don't think if this situation didn't happen i would have never seen it that way. >> an incredible interview
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there's a new bipartisan push to step up the government's response to the so-called havana syndrome that mysterious health problem or disease or attacks suffered by u.s. diplomats, cia officers and others deployed overseas. first occurring in havana five years ago, but now 200 americans have reported similar symptoms. every continent except antarctica. joining us now is the leading voice on this issue in congress for many years senator jean shaheen. senator, thank you so much. you and i have been talking about this a lot, but now you've got legislation and this would create a white house national security council post. they have someone appointed now, but this would make it statutory to oversee the response, the medical access, government wide. is not what bill burns, the
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highly regarded cia director just did to appoint someone for his agency to try to find out what's happened here. this is a veteran cia officer who we understand was deeply involved in the bin laden hunt. so has a great success record. that's not good enough. >> well, i'm very pleased with the work bill burns has done, we all very much appreciate that. this legislation builds on what we did in the defense authorization bill that was just passed out of committee. it not only sets up the enter agency position and, unfortunately, certainly under the previous administration and while we're seeing a lot of progress under this administration a siloed approach to dealing with this. different based on which agency the public employees are in. so, this is an effort to try and improve coordination, to try to set up reporting to congress so that we have a better sense of what happens and so that we know
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that everybody who has been affected is being treated in the same way. >> now, the latest scientific studies seems to point towards director to energy, that is technology that really started in terms of the investigations into it, the research back in russia in the 1970s. is russia still a leading suspect, i should say? >> well, as you point out, this is really cold war technology. and we know that russia is one of those countries that has the capacity to do these kinds of directed energy attacks. there's some other countries that we think also fit into that category. but certainly as we look at what's happened around the world, russia is at the top of the suspect list. >> do you think it's time to take havana off the suspect list and let diplomats go back there? our embassy has been vacant since 2017.
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>> i do think we should put our diplomats back in cuba and that we also not only need to be doing everything possible to address the impact that this has had on our diplomats and our other representatives of the u.s. government, but we need to get to the bottom of who's doing this. so, part of what our legislation hopes to do is not just look at providing treatment for those people who are affected but also putting funding into the investigation into who's doing it and how we can prevent it. >> have you seen evidence that there are more cases? i know there was a cluster of cases reported in vienna just in recent months. >> right. well, as you point out when we started working on this, we've been working with between 15 and 20 people who have been affected. as you point out the list now, that's publicly acknowledged as up to over 200. so, we know that more people have been affected. that's part of the reporting
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effort on what's happening because getting information is often not very well coordinated and it's not as forthcoming as i think i and other members of congress would like. >> you're clearly trying to do something with this legislation to change that. and there have been some reports, a handful of cases reported actually in the u.s., even near the white house. have you corroborated any of those reports? >> i have seen the public reporting of those cases. i can't report on what i've heard in a classified situation. and, again, that's why there is bipartisan support to have more information made available, not just to members of our administration, our various agencies who have been affected, but to members of the public. and what i would like to see is a process so that everyone knows
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how to report if they think they've been affected. what they need to do and that that should be across the board in our government so that everybody has that information. >> well, thank you so much, senator shaheen, what you're trying to do to shed daylight on something and i know briefings you obviously can't discuss but a lot going on behind the scenes. >> there is. >> thank you very much. that does it for us for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." follow us on facebook and twitter. chuck todd is here with dr. vive murthy only on msnbc. eliquis has both. don't stop taking eliquis without talking to your doctor as this may increase your risk of stroke. eliquis can cause serious and in rare cases fatal bleeding.
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