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canadian border, niagara river where people around their, when i was a kid, buffalo to toronto was a really long distance. now it's sort of contiguous and people hang around in both those places. you don't find that sort of conservatism on the canadian side of it. >> right. >> i'm always interested about how that plays out these parts of new york and vermont up against new york and how different things are on the other side of the border. i did a little research, there's good lake fishing in erie with bass. learning a lot about it. >> i'm going to friendly kidnap you and take you fishing. >> i enjoy it. i will look forward to. it's good to see you. thank you rachel. have a good night. >>, today was a bad day for donald trump and for trump republicans because today america got to see the contrast. american voters got to see would happen one republican senators ignored trump's primal
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screams to stop disorders and join with democrats to give biden the infrastructure bill that donald trump failed to get. it happened at literally the same time that democrats showed they were willing to hold their own accountable. something with a republican struggle, or maybe they don't. governor andrew cuomo resigned just one week after the state attorney general released a report accusing him of sexually harassing 11 women. >> i have been too familiar with people. my sense of humor can be insensitive and off putting. i do you hug and kiss people casually. women and men. i have done it all my life. it is who i have been since i can remember. the best way i can help now, is
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if i step aside and let government get back to governing. therefore, that's what i'll do. >> the reality is that cuomo had no option but to resign. the democratic party collectively demanded that he resign. members of his own party said, enough. now, lieutenant governor kathy hochul will become the first woman history to serve as the governor of new york. trump was accused by two dozen women of sexual misconduct, sexual assault, and donald trump this is, not andrew cuomo. donald trump was accused of rape, which he also denied. he abused his office, including trying to overturn the election results. he held a pep rally for an attack on the county. he was impeached by democrats twice. republicans have twisted themselves into pretzels and make excuses. that is the contrast. by and large, democrats believe and things and they will turn on other democrats who violate their core values.
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republicans in the error of trump have made gaining in holding on to power their only core value. today, however, there was a crack, maybe. today the senate passed the largest federal infrastructure investment in decades. 69 senators approved the bill that provides 450 billion dollars in new spending from roads, bridges, public transit, and power grids. 19 republicans, including typically constructionist mitch mcconnell, broke from trump and voted to pass this legislation. republicans actively rebuffed trump who campaigned against the bill. when was the last time that happened? here is president biden after the vote. >> after years and years of infrastructure week, we are in the cusp of an infrastructure decade. this bill shows we can work together. this bill is declared dead more often than anyway. that bipartisanship was a thing of the past.
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it's a relic of an earlier age. as you may well remember, i don't believe that i still don't. >> the bipartisan infrastructure bill is just one piece of the biden infrastructure proposal. the senate is now moving to pass the three and a half trillion-dollar budget resolution. tonight, house majority leader rep hoyer said they will cut the summer recess short. we'll come back august 23rd to considered the president solution after it passes the senate. leading off our discussion today's governor coons. how big a deal is? this putting aside the fact that's $550 in new bridges and roads, the stuff does not even partisan. everybody agrees it has to be done. fundamentally, the fact that this got, and how big a deal is it? >> ali, this is a really big deal. it is a big deal for president biden, it's a big deal for the american people, it's a big
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deal for the 650,000 workers who are going to have new jobs, high skilled, high often union jobs. it's a big deal for the communities all over our country who are gonna get badly new investments whether it's broadband to help kids to school and seniors to their doctors or it will clean up the pollution in drinking waters from lead pipes or making things more resilient for renewables it's a big deal politically as well it shows president biden is right. that on some core areas, we can still work together. even mitch mcconnell voted for this bill. i didn't think we were going to get 69 votes tonight that we got 19 republicans, but the core of the working group, a group of republicans, who had also voted to impeach president trump, we are determined to come up with a solid, sustainable bipartisan path forward we got that done.
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now ali, nearly 12 hours later, we are in the thick of voting for the next issue, the reconciliation. the 3.5 trillion dollar resolution that sometime very late tonight or early tomorrow morning we will pass with all 50 democrats supporting it and then be able to move forward on that next chapter and seeing biden's vision. ng biden's vision so, let me ask you this, senator that is pretty impressive. 19 republicans coming over that is truly a bipartisan thing, except you and i know that this is the most bipartisan issue, right? >> we are just the crumble and those that fail don't know what your party is. there is a more important issue out there and that is voting rights in light of everything we've seen in the last couple weeks with donald trump having talked to jeff rosen, and this guy jeffrey clark writing letters to people trying to overturn elections, and the fact that there was actually a planned -- is voting right stuff seems to be that important. certainly not as bipartisan, but it's that important. where are you on
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deciding that that voting rights bill has to get done, even if it means putting aside the filibuster for the purposes of certain bills? >> two things, ali. hi really glad you are following the details of the judiciary committee investigation you are just referring to that has come forward with some really shocking details about rosen and clark and others in the department of justice as former president trump tried to bully his way into an election that he did not win. we are going to take up and vote on a voting rights bill before we leave, something that will show that all of us, all 50 democrats, are committed to the idea that we have to move forward on voting rights. ali, this is something that used to be bipartisan. the last time the voting rights act was reauthorized, it had an overwhelming bipartisan vote. it is just in the last decade that the idea of voter i.d., and widespread fake voting or false voting has taken over the republican view, and democrats have seemed to be the only ones committed to access to the ballot box. as i said before, i
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am someone who is going to work hard across the aisle. i'm asking republicans to reconsider and to see if they can find it in themselves those who work for us on the bipartisan infrastructure deal, to join us on voting rights. if they don't or won't, i will not stand by and watch the agenda that president biden ran on and is now leading all, and be stymied for his entire term. that happened to president obama and his second term, i will not see that happen to joe biden. you are going to see all 50 democrats vote for voting rights bill before we leave tomorrow to make it clear that we stand behind that proposition. >> but will you support the idea of passing that without a filibuster if it comes to it? >> we have had a lot of debates in our caucus, ali, about exactly what that would mean. could we move to a talking filibuster? could we do it for voting rights only? what with the consequences before the biden administration and the ability to confirm or judge us and get more bills passed?
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>> i don't have a clear answer to those questions but i do know we will show all 50 of us are committed to doing it. as a caucus we have to find a resolution to how is the best way to do that, up to and including reconsidering the filibuster as it's currently structured. structured back to the judiciary committee. what do you do about these new revelations that you got from the department of justice? there are few things very different about this. there was a plan. for everybody talking about fraud, the only alleged fraud seems to be having come from 1600 pennsylvania avenue through the department of justice. this is criminal stuff. what are you in the senate going to do about it? she will let the law handle this? >> dick durbin, senator from illinois, chairman of the committee was talking to us earlier this.
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evening senator blumenthal, he was making suggestions about what's next witness will be taken. there are limits to what we can get done without support from the minority, from republicans. it's hard for the senate judiciary committee to issue and carry out subpoenas, to compel testimony. if you get clear enough evidence to justify a criminal authority, i will leave that to the committee chair to decide, we might put this to the attorney justice who has a greater aware of tools at their disposal to convene grand juries and get to the bottom of this. >> i know you have a vote to take, thank you for your time this evening.
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i am ping-ponging between issues now. the stuff the administrations may be doing. i want to go back to the thing they are not voting on yet, that is the larger reconciliation bill. the human infrastructure. i don't know what we call this anymore. the big bill, three and a half trillion dollar bill. there are a whole lot of people in the house saying, we are not moving on this, we are not signing off on the smaller infrastructure bill, the one for roads and bridges until we see what is happening with this other one. where do you think things stands right now with the second bill? >> the president has been pretty clear from the beginning this is a two track process. track one, we saw incredible process with the senate, senator chris coons was just saying it passed with 69. votes in historic transition an infrastructure. a parallel track there is the investment in america's families in reducing the cost that folks pay for housing,
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childcare, and their kids college education. our view is that those things are going to move on parallel tracks. it's gonna be up to majority leader schumer and speaker pelosi to decide exactly the procedural tactics that will be necessary to pass both of those. the president hopes and expects that both those bills will be on his desk before the end of september so that we can make the kind of transformative investments in america that the president campaigned and one on. >> maybe you and i are not the two guys to talk about the sausage being made, but there was a letter sent by the progressive caucus to nancy pelosi and leader schumer in which they say the congressional progressive caucus has recently conducted an internal survey of its 96 members, and we specifically asked whether members would commit to withholding a yes vote, on the bipartisan infrastructure deal until the senate has passed
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i spoke to a number these people. this is what they're telling me. for everybody else telling you it will work out, it's a timing, issue we are not passing this bill until we get the other bill. >> the president is confident both these bills will end up on his desk this fall. we will make these investments in americas family before the end of this year. speaker pelosi and majority leader schumer are the experts at the procedural wrangling that's gonna take place to get these done but both these tracks are vitally important. it's important we make these investments in broadband internet, in our roads and bridges, it's also equally important that we make these investments in bringing down the cost of childcare for people across this country. we should provide universal pre-k for every single three and four year old. it's important we provide free community college for every
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student in the united states. these are transformative investments for the united states. the president made all of them the centerpiece of his build back better agenda that he campaigned and won on. he expects that congress will pass each element of the agenda this fall. >> politico has been reporting from early democratic polling has showed inflation, something republicans have been talking about a, lot to be a rising issue with voters. many of the voters are prevalent concern that flooding for three now trillion dollar social spending package could exasperate the problemon dolla social spending package coul >>o assess moderate democrats fear that they could be forced to own it, the prospect of a debate is raising another issue. get rid of the debt issue once and for all. that conversation as bubbling up, and people are worried about it there are some good arguments. wages are going up and costs will go up and we --
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it'll all go of together. there are people on fixed income who are worried about this. it's they're going to be some sustained and organized democratic messaging on why democrats don't think inflation is going to be out of control and how to deal with the debt ceiling? >> look, a folks are concerned about inflation, the solution is the president's agenda. think about the drivers of rising cost for families, housing over the years, childcare education internet service all of bharat ramamurti these are things that the president build back better agenda helps address overtime. and so, putting downward pressure on prices over time, the way to do that is to make those investments on the supply side of the economy which is what the infrastructure package does and the elements of the build back better reconciliation bill does as well. look, we understand that --
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i've been going up significantly for years and years out, the presidents plan the build back better agenda which is on the verge of passing that is the solution to those problems i would urge anybody who's concerned about inflation to read the presidents plan, to support it because that is going to be the long term solution to bringing those costs down. >> good to talk to, you bharat ramamurti is with the white house, coming up today andrew cuomo resigned but did not admit wrongdoing. new york state senator alessandra biaggi has been an outspoken advocate for holding the governor accountable, she will join us next. join us next. i don't just play someone brainy on tv - i'm an actual neuroscientist. and i love the science behind neuriva plus. unlike ordinary memory supplements, neuriva plus fuels six key indicators of brain performance. more brain performance? yes, please! neuriva. think bigger.
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cuomo will no longer be the governor of new york, in the week since new york attorney general letitia james released her report detailing allegations against the governor made by 11 women. the message from democrats,
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president biden from the entire new york congressional delegation and from a majority of state lawmakers was clear, resign or you will be impeached. new york state democratic party chair j.j. cubs told lawrence last week that he called cuomo and delivered that message directly to him. >> i just stress to the governor that i thought that it was time for him to resign, his legacy was too important to allow us to go through this retracted impeachment process which would damage it. >> does he have the same information about these vote counts? >> i've told him that, i was very direct with the governor us to where support was and that he didn't have the support anywhere that he needed it. i was very clear about that. >> that gentlemen used to be a supporter of cuomo, today he denied the allegations. >> in my mind, i've never
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crossed the line with anyone. but, i didn't realize the extent to which the line has been redrawn. we're wasting energy on distractions, this is the last thing that state government should be doing. and i cannot be the cause of that. >> a lawyer for two of the women said that her clients quote feel both vindicated and relieved that he will no longer be in a position of power over anyone. joining us now is democratic new york state senator alessandra biaggi, she is the chair of the ethnics and internal governance committee. thank you for being with us senator biaggi. you put out a statement today talking about this you were relieved that it has happened, however you said resignation is not accountability. you want that impeachment process to continue to go forward, one of your fears is that resignation does not prevent andrew cuomo for
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running for office again. >> that's right, thank you very much for having me tonight, ali. first, i want to say that the governor resigning today was a shocked to me like it was too many people who were watching the press conference or who had heard about it there after, the important part of it is that it feels as if new york is closing a dark chapter, in its history, but to the point that you're making about resignation it doesn't equal accountability, and the reason is because we have not had a full reckoning of the many ways in which governor cuomo has harmed not only these 11 women but our government, and our state. right now, without impeachment andrew cuomo is permitted to run again for office, and so we have to ensure that that is not the case. i think you just played back a part of what the governor said today during his final words at his press conference he made very clear that he did not want the assembly to further investigate him and impeach him,
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and he made clear that he did quote unquote, nothing wrong. the lines have moved, and he was not aware of the lines moving, which hopefully we will talk about. but ultimately what we saw was a lack of accountability in his statement, although resigning is a very serious act that he took and i do think that is part of accountability. >> the comment that he made was interesting, he said i have never crossed a line, but i was unaware as to how the line has been redrawn. what is your reaction to that? >> my reaction to that is that i don't believe a word that he says, and i'm gonna tell you exactly why. if we're talking about lines that were quote unquote redrawn in new york, which i'm assuming he means there are stronger laws we put in place in 2019, that was a law that i drafted that he signed and that he championed, it's a law that makes new york have the
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strongest set of sexual harassment protections as well as district in the nation protections in the country across the country. so for him to say today that he didn't understand that the lines have moved and that things have changed, that it just goes to different kinds of ideologies, and people just didn't understand what he was trying to do, i don't find that to be credible. again, i don't find that to be a way in which he is trying to be accountable to new yorkers. i think it's important to understand that particular piece of the law that was signed by him. >> we have been exposed to much more texture about this issue of sexual harassment, of sexual assault, sexual harassment in the workplace since 2015. are you surprised that in 2021 this is how it all went down, or are you pleased that the pressure on cuomo works and that he resigned. how do you feel about the last few weeks, or last few months,
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and how that has unfolded? >> first, i think you make an excellent point, for the past six years this country and this world has been going through a reckoning when it comes to sexual harassment, sexual assault and sexual misconduct among other things generally. to not be aware of that in such a way that you wouldn't think about your own behavior again is not credible, because every single person in politics and government acts knows that it's an important issue. with regard to what he said and how he has hash this out, it is unfortunate, it feels tragic. particularly because this past year as we've been dealing with a lot of the scandals were guarding this government we haven't been able to do the things that we needed to do. we didn't has any sexual related bills last year, we've passed no reforms, we were unable to get the covid relief out the door, so what i'm
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focused on right now is what is possible and the opportunity can be without andrew cuomo at the helm and a new governor, the first female governor in new york to be able to actually take the helm and lead us to a place where new york can reach a types potential. >> was there trouble in the democratic caucus getting to this point when everybody signed on and asked cuomo to resign? i know some people had said let's wait until this investigation is done, fell to me like as soon as the investigation was out there was no convincing that needed to be done on anybody? >> early on, and early on this year there was a lot of hesitation and trepidation to call for the governor to resign, and build to call out the governor's behavior, the reason is because andrew cuomo has been known as somebody who is vindictive he is known as somebody who keeps a list of people who off quote unquote crossed him, loyalty is andrew cuomo's currency, and so i was very challenging for a lot of
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people to call that out. why? they were afraid of political retribution and just regular retribution themselves. that is not in the legislature, that goes beyond the legislature. it's at the commissioners level who are afraid to speak out. but i hope that in the coming weeks we do see people, not only share their stories but also feel comfortable about we're moving in a direction that we're not gonna change the law but also change the culture, what today signifies is a shift in culture in albany, and new york generally. >> senator thank you for joining us, new york state senator alessandra biaggi is the chair of the ethics and internal governance committee. thank you for being with us tonight. coming up, parents gold ministry doesn't democratic leaders are fighting republican lunacy and states ravaged by delta. that is next. that is next pany, huh? ♪ but it's actually a network. ♪ connecting just about everyone to just about everyone else.
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rates. republican leaders are making matters worse. in florida today, the reports that there are 400 -- 14,787 people hospitalized today. all the patients beds were filled. republican governor ron desantis still refuses to talk about covid, and someone in florida recognizes there needs to be help. they sent 200 ventilators and other supplies to florida to help with the surge in covid hospitalizations. republican governor greg abbott in texas is still banning mask mandates. despite that, is now asking hospitals to stop non emergency medical procedures to free up space for covid patients, he's bringing out of patients to help with the surge. people in austin are fed up, they filed a lawsuit asking a
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judge to strike down governor abbott's ban on mask mandates joining us now is clay jenkins the highest elected official in dallas. good to see you again judge. what happened when we went through this last year? the governor imposed similar restrictions on mandating in shutdowns, have masks, things like that and a number of judges and localities challenged the governor at the time. where do things stand? >> ali, it's good to see you again as well. thank you for having me. moments ago, i received an order from a judge and graining a restraining order against governor abbott allowing the opportunity to require masks satyr schools and businesses. i have taken a break from talking to business and educators and others to talk to you, but i will continue to do that tonight until the last person has gone to sleep.
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i will do it again early in the morning getting the order out sometime in the first half of tomorrow. >> this is just happen. a judge has said to you, you have a temporary restraining order against the governor's mandate? >> that's correct. in the last few moments that has happened, i just put it on twitter before coming on to talk to you. as i always do, i will talk to the business education, health care communities, and get their feedback but we will be issuing an order tomorrow and it will be in keeping with the doctors were commissioned nation that we need to wear a face mask indoors. >> you had 12 children in dallas county who followed -- filed a lawsuit. you filed a separate. one is this temporary restraining order with respect to those lawsuits that have been filed? >> the children that i have a
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hearing today say the judge could spend more time on that hearing but schools require face mask the superintendents and all the districts and the doctors i think there's a good probability and that's exactly what i will do >> we have anecdotal evidence talking to pediatrics across the country and they are saying there seems to be a some impression people have and that kids don't get sick from this. when they get sick they don't get all that sick. the anecdotal numbers we have got our that they do. kids get this, kids get covid. they can't vaccinate. kids under 12 living in homes orchids and our vaccine are getting covid. it is serious. there are kids on life support and ventilators in hospitals. you would think that part would sort of get past partisan politics. >> ali, let me give you a statistic. there are 19 counties in our
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manchuria that 7.7 people and in the day we had to pediatric icu beds in those entire 19 counties. for every car wreck, miss, have had every covid patient who is at kid, there are two beds. he had to drive 120 miles to get to, it there were two. beds doctors are already making decisions on kids and adults that would not even cross their mind as far as limiting care a month ago. they're already ready to make those decisions now because of the shortages. we notice the maximum amount of people that we've had in the hospital occurred last winter. because the governor pulled the temporary staffing unemployed democrats to go and vote on voter suppression, they left the state in d.c. and now we have left staff in our hospitals now than ever before and the situation in our
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hospitals worse than ever before. this is not about politics it's about public health and the enemy is not governor abbott or desantis the enemy is the virus. we all do everything we can to defeat the virus and we are hopeful the governors are not listening to the doctors and they will listen to the doctors who trained their entire adult lives to advise us in this moment and our only hope of beating covid is that. >> thanks for being with us, judge. thank you for the news you got and congratulations on that. i hope you get some people to handle the mass situation and prevent the spread more than it needs to. be clay jenkins is the judge in dallas county. new and alarming details coming up in the run up to january 6th as the senate judiciary committee prepares to meet another key witness. a georgia united states attorney who resigned after pressure from trump to overturn the election results. neal katyal joins us next.
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on what's on the show was doing on the days between election day 2020 ingenuous exhorting 21. political reports that attorney general rosen called him pushing a potential lawsuit to throw the election results in six states. why did then-president want to know to do more about the election. the complaint modeled on the texas suit would've urged the supreme court to say that the electoral rosen said he shut trump down. then on january 3rd trump called georgia secretary of state saying i just want to find 11,780 votes which of
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course is the number of votes trump we need to have overturn george's results. imagine that. he actually called and asked him to do that. on the call, trump referred to a quote never trumper u.s. attorney who is now believed to be bjp arc than the u.s. eternity for the northern district of georgia the day after that call, the u.s. attorney vijay pack reportedly resigned after pressure from the trump white house. the senate judiciary will interview him tomorrow. joining us now is neal katyal former acting usa contributor. this plot thickens as it has taken so much, neal it's gone from being the sort of half hazard attempt and there are people who are not willing to call it a coup attempt and it's something that was a cool
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attempt. it was a plan to take people at the highest level of government and now we've got this p.j. pac we don't know exactly what his role was but he disappeared after donald trump called the secretary of state to ask him to change around some votes in georgia and tomorrow he is going to be interviewed. you are an expert at this what would you ask him? >> first of all, ali suddenly quitting your job before departure date is a red flag in any place. if the workplace is the federal prosecutors office it's more like a blaring siren. when i want to know, i want to get to the bottom of that. why did you resign and what were the contacts between trump for the justice department officials to the jeffrey clark figure the environmental several lawyer who evidently was in cahoots with trump. did he play any role in this? the night before you resigned the deputy acting deputy attorney general richard donahue had a phone call with
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you what was in the phone call and what was discussed? most importantly, bjp resigned on january 4th and the day after it was revealed that trump had pressured georgia secretary of state ross and burger to find the 11,780 votes. i want to know what the reaction was to that. was his reaction -- resignation anyway related to that? >> it does seem between rows, in bjp, awkward getting's mansour's. everything is leaked and that's how we're finding it out but they are all saying that they were told to do something that was either at best wrong, and at worst highly illegal. one happens now? how does this unfold in your opinion. where does this go next? it feels to me this has to exist outside the political realm and go into the criminal realm. >> 100%.
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there are some hunters we know and some we don't. we know donald trump filed a bunch of bogus lawsuits. we know donald trump held the pap rally on january 6th. we know trump manoeuvred with jeffrey clark this lower level justice department officials to try to throw the election results. we know the acting attorney general jeffrey rosen rejected this garbage and we know that trump still called the election results bogus and illegal and supporting lawsuits in his fundraising even after his attorney general told him these lawsuits are going nowhere. we also know that out of the 11,780 votes and the next day dj park resigned we know a lot of stuff. we don't know why did pac resign and what were the contacts between trump and the justice department the full level of contacts and most importantly we don't know where the justice department right now stands on this. we don't know where merrick
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garland is doing about this. the justice department is investigating and prosecuting also of low level drug dealing across this country and here we have a huge crime imaginable and disenfranchising millions of people and we don't know where the justice department is. >> this might be the big one. they came really close there is an actual plot to overthrow a democratic election and they came really close. when i don't know is whether there is anything protecting from happening again other than good people saying i won't do this for the beach epoxy of the world who quit i don't know whether the institution can prevent this from happening again. >> thank you for saying. that trump's mo was to appoint people like egypt popular relatively of skirt and not very prominent lawyers and point them in big positions like federal prosecutors in atlanta and then lean on them to do his dirty work.
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puck, it looks like he wasn't willing to do that. if he acted differently and jeffrey rosen acted differently if any of these people, just a couple of them changed their mind, everything could be different. we could have had a coup. ldthat's why investigation is so important. not a political one, just tell us the facts. tell us what happened. and then we can adjust our system accordingly. >> it is good to see you neal katyal coming up. kathy hochul we'll make history when team becomes the first female governor. we will see what kind of leader she will be. she will be. someone once told me, that i should get used to people staring. so i did. it's okay, you can stare. when you're a two-time gold medalist,
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kathy hochul we'll have more to say and. albany she's a native of buffalo and she served on the hamburg town of -- before winning a special action when a new york's most conservative districts in 2011. she became comas deputy governor in 2015 the new york times describes her style as the polar opposite of governor cuomo's noting that she has established joining us now is brian he higgins represents kathy hochul's former congressional government in your eye.
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congressman, good to see you. i was saying to rachel, you are kind of like a canadian congressman. you are on the border there when guys like me one from toronto to buffalo, or upstate new york. that's where we would cross into your constituency. >> you would do that. kathy hochul is motivated by big challenges. she is inspired by great ideas and good people. she will be a great governor of new york >> tell me about your work with her and how you got to know her. >> she is a friend and colleague for 40 years. she is always been inspired by idealism and her commitment to public service and work ethic. the people of new york who don't know her will come to know her very quickly and be impressed by the same things that impressed me so many years ago. >> it's a hard situation to take over from something like this. it is so fraught with destruction that it is bringing the worst out in everybody
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because there's been such pressure on the governor to leave. what do you think and recommend that she is going to put her stamp on new york? >> kathy, based on her personality, her upbringing, buffalo in new york it's a stark contrast to what we have. she's compassionate protests. she will be a great governor as you have mentioned with the outset she served in every level of government local county state and federal and she is well prepared for this opportunity. the job of lieutenant governor is preparing yourself to become governor at some point. she has done that. i think people can look to kathy for great inspiration. a great sense of duty and she will be a great governor for new york state. >> as an observer from the side,
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how broken is new york democratic politics right now to you? >> all politics are broken right now. you need people on both sides of the aisle to rise above the fray and kathy has demonstrated over three decades of public service the ability to rise above the fray and to focus in on issues that matter to people regardless of the political persuasion and she will be in it standing governor for new york state and all people. >> were you taken by surprise from cuomo resigned today. i know the entire new york delegation even people who had been uncle most side for a while after this report came out said, we are done time to go. are you supposed actually happened? >> truthfully, no. the evidence relative to what the governor had done, was overwhelming. it was just a matter of time someone surprised, not necessarily. i think the earlier the better to get out of the way and to
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allow kathy hochul to do what she is very careful of doing. that will accrue to the benefit of everybody in western europe who is very proud of her also for the entire state of new york new york is a special place. it's its own tradition and kathy hopeful will serve the people of the state in an extraordinary way. i couldn't be more proud of her as a colleague and friend. >> congressman we appreciate your time brian higgins he is the congressman for new york 26 up by buffalo. this is kathy hocus's former district when she was a member of congress. that's the last word. the 11th hour with brian williams begins now. iams begins now. >> and good evening once again day 203 of the biden administration and on this day we watch a three term democratic governor of new york wreck announced his
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resignation. it came one week after a bombshell report did most double instances of sexual harassment and they came after he had lost all of his remaining political support. more on that just ahead, we begin yet again with an alarming situation and hospitals across our country's, overwhelmed with the crush of covid patients. the spike in cases driving the uptick in hospitalizations, in texas, icu beds have all but disappeared at dozens of facilities. they are importing doctors from other states. texas state health department says over 10,000 texans are currently hospitalized with the virus. today one dallas official warned the situation is particularly dangerous for children who might need intensive care. >> we now, at this moment have to pediatric icu beds. these are not just for covid, these are car wrecks, anythi