tv All In With Chris Hayes MSNBC August 11, 2021 12:00am-1:00am PDT
>> i am a fighter, and my instinct is to fight through this controversy. >> a shocking announcement from andrew cuomo. my resignation will be effective in 14 days. >> under threat of impeachment and pressure from his own party new york's democratic governor steps down. >> why does that never happened with republicans? then -- >> after years, and years, of infrastructure week, we are in the cusp of an infrastructure decade. >> a big bipartisan achievement for biden but can anything else get through the senate? plus -- >> in many ways, wisconsin's been at the forefront of the republican efforts to override the will of the people. >> what i will talk to the governor of wisconsin who is undermining democracy in the state. as covid cases surge in florida, parents are now suing governor
desantis to get their kids protected. >> i don't want to hear a blip about covid from you. thank you. >> when all in starts right now. . good evening from washington d.c. i am mehdi hasan in for chris hayes. donald trump is a man who is rise to political prominence was always defined by one inference, lock her up. it was everywhere during his 2016 campaign against hillary clinton, and remains a trump crowd favorite, even today, despite it being based on nothing. we raises theased o governor cuomo was forced out after pressure from his own party. >> this situation, by its current trajectory, will generate months of political and legal controversy. that is what is going to happen. >> given the circumstances, the best way i can help now, is if
i step aside and let government get back to governing. therefore, that's what's all do. my resignation will be effective in 14 days. >> this is certainly not the first time the governor has been embroiled in scandal. just a few years into his administration, cove o was revealing by the new york times ordered a commission that he set up to root out commission in new york state politics, to withdraw their subpoena that worked for him. he basically ordered them to stop investigating corruption associated with him. the governor said he had every right to monitor and direct the work of a commission he had created. cuomo brushed all that off, and won reelection twice in 2014 and 2018. then last spring, cuomo became a national political star when new york was at the epicenter of the pandemic. his daily press briefings were must ctv.
while the governor's sold -- soothe peoples fear and told like it is and went up against donald. trump >> president donald trump says his own officials are lying about the pandemic. his own cdc officials are lying about the virus. if the president is telling the truth, you know what he should do? he should fire them. someone is clearly lying to the american people. and people are dying because of it. trump's covid scandal, makes what nixon did at watergate, look innocent. >> but the adoration did not last long, following months of concerns and accusations about deaths the new york nursing homes during the pandemic, letitia james announced a
report in january saying the cuomo administration failed to report thousands of deaths, then came the barrage of sexual harassment allegations. wounds ebola, in the first to accuse the governor in december of 2020. between february in march of this year, at least eight more women came forward. the governor disputed the allegations, denied wrongdoing, and was determined to stay in office. then in march, new york said tierney general open investigation into the allegations and a bunch of prominent democrats beacon calling for cuomo to resign. that included both u.s. senators, 18 of new york's members of congress, and the mayor of new york city. just last week, the attorney generals office released their report finding that governor cuomo sexually harassed 11 woman, and created a hostile work environment. the calls from yellow -- fellow democrats in testified, coming from president biden. one week later, here we are. democrats put pressure on one
of their own, and democratic attorney general opened up multiple investigations into the democratic governor and members of his own party finally held him accountable. it worked. look. i believe top members of the democratic party both nationally and in new york, should have to answer for how long they knew about cuomo's actions, and whether they turned a blind eye to them. as i say eventually, when they turned up the heat, it worked. and also work with the previous two democratic governors of new york, elliott speedster who and resigned amidst a sexual allegation scandal and -- that he abused his office. it worked with the former democratic attorney general of new york, eric schneiderman who talked about abuse. the democratic party is still willing to take action against alleged offenders in its midst, unlike, wait for, at the other
great political party in this country. republicans are all over the andrew cuomo story, but have they looked in the mirror recently? just take former missouri republican governor eric grains who resigned in 2018 amidst an ethics probe, two criminal charges, reports he had an affair, and allegations of blackmail. he is now running again. it's time for the senate and he is the likely front runner to replace retiring gop leader roy butts. jim jordan of ohio has faced multiple allegations that he turned a blind eye to sexual bees by the ohio state wrestling team physician, while jordan was the assistant coach. yet, republicans continues to stand by him, even choosing to be the wrecking member of the house judiciary committee. we have even seen this on the supreme court, clarence thomas was confirmed, despite a neatest hills sexual rasmussen. case hinted was brett kavanaugh afternoon -- of sexual assault. not a single republican voted
no one companies confirmation. congressman matt gates of florida is currently under investigation by the department of justice over whether he had a sexual relationship with a second 17 year old girl and paid for him to travel with her. adam kinzinger has called on him to resign and gaetz remains in office and on his committees. then of course, of course, just look at the former president who led an insurrection and was impeached twice, and has been accused of sexual misconduct by more than two dozen women. republicans as a whole, have never tried to hold him accountable for any of that. he remains the de facto leader of the party, and they're unlikely presidential candidate in 2024. now, donald trump, and all these other republican men have denied everything and refused to acknowledge the validity of any of the allegations against. and they did, 90, 99. and they continue to have a future in their party.
so yes, today is a sad day for the democratic party, one of their stars, and they were considering as a presidential candidate just a year ago, resigned in disgrace. you could say it is a saturday for american democracy, because it's a reminder that there are only consequences. there is only a -- accountability for democrats in our system. not for republicans. >> kitty is a former democratic congresswoman from florida she's a political action supporting women in politics, she will rises her book. and rebecca traister a writer at large for new york magazine. to publish this excellent investigative piece about the allegations against andrew cuomo. thank you both for joining me. katie, let me start with you. where are we now in terms of the me too movement and standing up to sexual must conduct in public life? did today move us forward? >> i think it's seen important
line in the sand that has been. john we are saying this won't be tolerated by people in these positions of power, especially if you want votes from woman and votes from people who make of the democratic base. i think that that is meaningful but it's not enough. what we have to recognize is that harassment of women is an extension of violence against women. that is a much more pervasive problem. that is something that all these lawmakers can call for resignation. if they don't do anything like past the violence against women act, we are big and bipartisanship, this is all the top in the senate. if they're not willing to do something like, that their words, calling for resignation, the people stepping aside for scandals, it's just not enough. i think we really need to shift the conversation toward whatever meaningful actions that are going to address this widespread epidemic of violence against women. >> it is an epidemic. you are right to talk about the need to move the conversation forward. rebecca, it's also a political day. a very political day.
let me ask you a very political question. is this the end of the legendary cuomo political dynasty in new york? people today are already talking about him running again in the future if he can dodge getting impeached and barred from office. >> i was gonna say, when you pointed to the fact that donald trump may in fact have a future with his party, i don't think it's at all unthinkable that andrew cuomo will continue to have one. cuomo, and my reporting, they have a lot of trumpian characteristics. this is not a guy who heard the criticism from his party and just stepped down like a good soldier and took responsibility for his actions, he was denying an incredibly unpleasant way that he did anything wrong. he was offering offensive defenses. when you run through that timeline, considered that the people in his party were talking for him to step down in march, and it is now august. he has hung in, despite people including the two senators from his state suggesting that he
step aside months ago. the president in his own party, president joe biden said he thought he should step down a week ago. he has hung on a week, i believe he would've hung on if you found any path and in fact, as other people have speculated already today, it is entirely possible that he thinks if he steps away, and dodges impeachment and removal from office that he will have a political future. i think he is much more trumpian and not necessarily the like responsible democratic official taking responsibility for his actions. i can see a future with andrew cuomo who is absolutely wedded to his own authority and own power. >> rebecca, your reporting on this does stand up to the idea that he is very trumpian. the point i was making earlier, whether or not he went willingly or was a good soldier, in the end, he saw that there were the votes for his own impeachment and we saw the pressure coming his way and
that hasn't happened in the republican party. we had to impeachment trials and donald trump got through both of them. katie, you have a unique perspective on this given the way you ended up resigning from congress. what do you make of the democratic republic condemn -- double standard when it comes to holding their bad actors accountable? >> we see now, there is absolutely no comparison. the fact that you went through it, all right? the fact that matt gates is still there and on his committees, the fact that eric creighton is running again [inaudible] >> it's not even an issue. it's excused. it is basically pushed under the rug and that's the thing we've been seeing for so long and people who are in power. and a decade after decades, they have seen the shift on the democratic side and rebecca's. right it doesn't mean that it is going to immediately go away. we have to constantly be on the lookout for holding ourself accountable. that's one of the big reasons
why i decided to resign. i can't say one thing is right and make sure my actions hold up to that. i didn't have people -- it was my own decision. it wasn't people calling for it. that's a big difference. it's something we don't see republicans coming close to. >> it's one of the things that frustrates american voters more than a. think the lack of accountability in public life. rebecca, why do you think it was the a.g.'s report that seem to be the straw that broke the camel's back? do we still just not believe credible accusations from multiple woman against men in power, especially popular democratic men in power? >> i think a lot of people did believe those accusation and there was a lot of reporting done in the spring. there had been an a.g.'s report on the nursing home deaths, that in some way help and and precipitated some of the
reporting on the bullying and sort of penchant for lying and cover-up and ineptitude within the cuomo administration. it's an administration and a governor who had gotten away for years with doing a performance of capability. that's what you saw on television on the briefings last year through covid, and he had done a real sort of theatrical's of being in charge, and people really responded warmly to that. yet, what we learned is that all of that was built on kind of air and lies. there has been so much reporting that people have believed on the cases of sexualized abuse and harassment, of bullying and professional misconduct, certainly of cover-up and lying with some of the corruption that has been part of the cuomo ministration fears. i think it was the volume of all that stuff that really took hold amongst his fellow democrats and lawmakers. the other thing is, we now have
that official investigation. this was a remarkable document that tish james's office put together. it was 170 pages, there was something like 70,000 primary sources. they interviewed so many people and it was so thorough. it was absolutely implausible that you could simply deny it, although of course the governor did tonight today over and over again. so, yes it was sort of like you couldn't argue with this document. it is so vastly well put together and reported and it came out of the attorney generals office. it was that investigation that people are always calling for that gets put in a different category from the journalism, which if done was also thorough investigation. >> yes it is, and katie, i'm trying to walk a tightrope i want to acknowledge the
democratic party got together and push this guy out, on the other hand, the democratic party enabled him for many years. there is an argument that many top officials knew would cuomo was like, and let him get away with it for a long time, kept endorsing him every time an election came by. >> i think there is an inherent tendency to protect people in power. the longer they've been in power, the more entrenched they are, the more people they have that raw are gonna come to their defense, and that is why it makes it so difficult to go after people like this and to make sure that people are held accountable. i think that it is big that we've seen the tide turn and it's significant that we've had this happen today, there is a true marker of the most powerful people in any of the states is finally having to step down. it's not enough by itself, but it's an important step in the
right direction and i hope that we actually see real action on meaningful protections for women in the workplace and in their day-to-day lives. >> an important step in the right direction, we will have to leave it there, katie hill and rebecca traister, thank you so much for your time tonight, we appreciate it. until it actually passed, it seemed impossible. >> this bill shows that we can work together. i know a lot of people, some sitting in the audience here, didn't think this could happen. this bill was declared dead more often. >> somehow 19 republicans, including the senate minority leader actually voted for a major bill from a democratic president. but does the success of the infrastructure bill do anything to pass the rest of the biden agenda? that's next. don't go away. go away.
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democrats goals in the chamber. not today, mitch, even he joined 18 other republicans in supporting the infrastructure bill, which ended up clearing the senate with a total of 69 votes, after months of skepticism, that joe biden could to shepherd this legislation in an evenly divided senate, he took a victory lap from the senate. >> i want to thank the group of senators, democrats and republicans for doing what they told me that they would do, they said they're willing to work in a bipartisan manner and i want to thank them for keeping their word. after years and years of infrastructure week, we're on the cusp of an infrastructure decade that i truly believe will transform america. >> it was a hard fight, and a surprising win for the white house but infrastructure you could say was the low hanging fruit. it's unlikely the other
priorities will get any republican support which is why democrats are already making moves to pass a 3.5 trillion dollar reconciliation bill which takes meaningful steps on issues like health care and the climate, and can become law without any republican vote, just by a simple majority. but can they succeed in getting it through? joining me now is the founder of the center for american progress, he served as white house chief of staff on bill clinton and his counsel to barack obama where he oversaw climate policy. john, thank you for coming on this show, you did serve on the barack climate, why couldn't he get a deal like this on a huge issue like this. is today's win a product of joe biden being an ex senator who loves bipartisanship and gets along with republicans, or because he isn't a black man who is accused of being born in kenya? >> well, i think there's a lot in that question it's good to be back on you, so thank you
for the opportunity. i think what biden had was both a, decade and lack of progress of infrastructure and dedication to find bipartisan solution, often during the obama administration when you needed to make a final deal it was joe biden that went up to the hill to negotiate with mitch mcconnell or the republican leadership in the house to see if they could find common ground, and he did that it is a course of this infrastructure debate it's an important victory for the president, it's an important statement about his tenacity at trying to find common ground which he promised in the election. but there's also what comes next? because a lot of what the president calls for during the campaign, proposed in american jobs plan is still left on the table, still left to what the
senate has turned its attention to which is the senate process and ultimately the reconciliation bill, that will make an important investment in climate change. >> john, you are right to say it's an important history for the president, it is, but i'm wondering if i'm being cynical, does it also set a dangerous precedent for the white house that they keep going for bipartisan bills, even though we all know you can't protect voting rights or american democracy itself unless you do it in a partisan way, you get rid of the filibuster and pass the for the people reckoned for the john lewis act? >> i'm for that and think that the filibuster needs to give way to the assault on voting rights, the new jim crow as president obama said in order to pass those vital pieces of legislation, but i think that the white house had a smart strategy here, they understood that if you started with this bipartisan bill, you build
support amongst the senate moderates and the moderates in the house to move forward with the reconciliation package, which attacks the climate problem, which as we saw this week with the new report, we have got to get our attention turned to making the investments that are going to stop a crisis from turning into calamity. >> so you mentioned climate change in the ipcc report you oversaw climates policies, given the report yesterday that warns that we are past the point of no return and many changes due to pass greenhouse emissions are irreversible for centuries, is there a proper sense of urgency here, john? the climate money and infrastructure and then the reconciliation bill, that is great, but it is not enough, it's nowhere near enough given the urgency given the scale of the challenge, surely accept that? >> i think that the importance
that the president has put on it will boost the economy, create jobs it's a positive opportunity also will reduce emissions by a substantial degree, i think the combination of tax credits for clean vehicles and clean power together with clean energy standard which is now a fancy name called clean energy performance payment, those things together will reduce emissions in the power sector by 80%, which is what we need to meet the presidents target of cutting emissions in half by 2030, that's why the ipcc calls for as well, and it will boost the biggest growing sector in transportation but going to what we have now which is about 2% in new car sales to 50% which the president noted with
the ottawa exact's last week, they can hit as long as these provisions are passed but time is of the essence, it's now in congress's hands, are they going to go forward with this? pass the reconciliation package, make these investments, save us from the cataclysmic effect of climate change? or will they stall, and right now i think that it's better than 50/50 that it'll pass, but you need every single democrat essentially voting for this. >> yes, every single democrat including joe manchin of west virginia who loves his coal and fossil fuel, i do hope -- >> you can't lose either one, -- >> you can't, let's see what happens, i hope that that needle is threaded, john podesta, thank you for your analysis. >> thank you. >> the headlines have been terrifying, makeshift morgues
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but over the years, reagan's funny rhetorical flourish has weirdly become the defining ideology of the republican party. one foreigner governor ron descendants was asked about reports that his state health officials were requesting 300 ventilators from the federal government, he said quote, i would honestly doubt that that's true, but i'll look. texas republican governor greg abbott talks a similar game. last month while explaining why he won't implement precautions to stop the spread of the virus, he said quote, we are past the time of government mandates, we are in the time of personal responsibility, and yesterday he appeals four out of state help as the delta state overwhelmed hospitals. interesting to see republican governors setting aside the anti-government principles to accept a few handouts. that's because government is not the problem in a public health crisis, it's the
solution. unless of course the federal government is controlled by partisan republicans. last year when new york another democratic led states were hit hard by covid, there was concern that the trump white house was playing politics in its response. eventually reporting would bear this out. they wrote that when andrew cuomo called the white house desperate for supplies, donald trump jared kushner who had taken a key role said and i quote, cuomo didn't pound the phones hardened of to get ppe for his state, his people are going to suffer and that's their problem. another vanity fair piece highlighted how the trump white house saw covid as a strictly blue state problem. quote, most troubling about perhaps was a sentiment the experts said a member of kushner's team express, that because the virus had hit blue states hardest, a national plan was unnecessary and would not make sense politically. the political folks believe that because it was going to be relegated to democratic states, that they could blame those
governors and that would be an effective political strategy. shameful. truly shameful. and yet right now, we have exactly the reverse situation. we have all of these red states in dire need of help, and a blue president eager to help them. >> i say to these governors, please help. but if you're not gonna help, at least get out of the way. people are trying to do the right thing. use your power to save lives. >> i have to ask, what's worse? small government republican ideologues who let kids die because they refused to work with the tyrannical federal government and the evil cdc, or small government republican hypocrites who quietly ask for federal government help but only after it's too late for many of their own sick constituents? coming up. a group of parents in florida are suing governor ron desantis trying to protect their kids from his reckless covid
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today was the first day of school, at the same time florida has more kids hospitalized with covid than anywhere in the country. at least 172 children are currently being treated and it's not just kids, 47% of staff icu beds in the state have coronavirus patients in them. the highest percentage in the u.s., you would think that a covid crisis like that would incentivize the government to change his behavior and encourage measures that would reduce transmission like vaccines, masks, but instead, florida republican governor is standing by his executive order against mask mandates in school, and he's threatening to withhold the salaries of superintendents and school board members who defied that order. but now some families are fighting back. a group of fans across the state are suing the governor on behalf of their children, saying his order is unconstitutional.
alicia taught is one of those parents, her son attends a special needs school, but wear masks have helped prevent the spread of covid. alicia, thank you so much for joining us. today was the first day of school, did he go to school in person today? how was it? >> he did not. my son has multiple medical conditions that his doctors advised to put him -- he had brain surgery and he is vulnerable, i'm not gonna put my son at risk, the bigger picture here is that the governor shouldn't be willing to put any of the kids in florida at risk, last year we had mask mandates, students navigated those mandates beautifully. >> when you talk about your son being at risk and the multiple issues and you as a parent have to prioritize his safety, i have to ask you believe ron
descendants the governor of florida, does he actually care about your child's health or is this just politics to him in your view? >> if desantis cared about the health care of the children, he would've followed the medical advice of the expert advice and the cdc, he's done the opposite to score political points. what's more insulting is that he's fundraising off of it as well. he's basically proud of the way he's put my son at risk and it is shameful. >> it is indeed shameful. tell us about the lawsuit, alicia, that you and other parents are filing against iran to sentence, what can that is she? >> so governor desantis signed the executive order that prohibits school from imposing masks, if they do to lose their funding. that is against all of the cdc guidelines, as covid is surging in our communities, i joined with other parents because children like mine with disabilities, or at greater
risk. they can't attend school under this policy. it's basically put children like my son in an impossible situation. there aren't able to take precautions, and protective action and they risk exposure in school by other unmask children, and our hope is that we will get a ruling that will say that it is unconstitutional and he will be able to get at least the school systems to put mask mandates in place. >> today president biden talked about governors interfering in school mask positions, here's what he said, take a listen. >> i find it interesting that some of the very people who are saying that, hold government positions, are people who are threatening that if a school teacher asks the student if they've been vaccinated or if a principal says that everyone in my school should wear a mask or
the school board votes for it, that governor will nullify that. that governor has authority to say you can't do that, i find that totally counter intuitive and disingenuous. >> alicia the government said that it was looking to see if schools affected by the mandate ban could be compensated, do you think the president is doing enough, what is your message to joe biden if he's watching tonight? >> president biden has taken the pandemic seriously since before he was elected and he came at a time were we needed a president would do that, today i saw his press secretary say that if elected officials can't help keep people safe than they should get out of the way, just as we heard him say that clip as well, they've already sent florida extra medical supplies and ventilators because of the surge in cases in our country and we're grateful for that, but i just hope that none of these ventilators will be necessary for kids catching
covid at school because of the governors reckless policies. >> alicia i keep hearing from politicians like greg abbott in texas that this is about choice, let parents choose, let people be free, and it's a kind of selfish attitude because children don't have any choices especially unvaccinated kids under 12, how has this pandemic been for you, especially this chapter, for you, for your son, for your family? >> it's been extremely difficult, my son just wants to be in school, just wants to be with other kids, and while he's saying that he's eliminated the choices for me and for my son, so i don't really see what we get a choice, because he's putting my sons very life at risk. >> it's just crazy, i cannot believe that elected politicians in this country are willing to put kids at risk to
score political points. i look up to you for sticking up and sharing your point, do stay safe, and i do hope your son stay safe as well. >> thank you. >> up next. the fight to save democracy wisconsin and by extension in america. the democratic government who vetoed six different republican attempts to suppress the vote in his state joins me now, that is next, don't go away. t, don't go away use a single hr software? nope. we use 11. eleven.
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republicans have been fixated on since november is making voting in the 2022, and 2024 elections as hard as possible. the brennan center for justice has found quote between january 1st and may 14th of 2021, at least 14 states enacted 22 new laws that restrict access to the vote. united states is on track to far exceed its most recent period of significant voter suppression, 2011. and we are seeing those
attempts to restrict access to the vote on the ground. earlier this summer republicans in the wisconsin legislature passed a series of bill restricting who could return absentee valid ballots requiring them to send i.d.s to request an absentee ballot and prohibiting clerks from clarifying things on absentee ballots. but he vetoed those bills saying that in recent years we've been used as a petri dish for republican plans to undermine democracy. well, not anymore. wisconsin governor tony evers joins me now, governor, thank you so much for coming on the show. tell me about these bills that you veto today. what were republicans trying to do and what was it so important for you to veto them? >> well, they go to the heart of democracy, and thanks for having me tonight, and i did this with great pleasure but also great thoughtfulness, would they have proposed comes
to the heart of our democracy, which is voting, and you mentioned several of the issues that the republicans took up, now the irony here though is this, many of these items became law or practice by republicans. suddenly, they have an election when things don't go their way and now it's part of voter fraud. all of that is below me. i was very happy to make sure that we have a strong absentee ballot situation here in the state of wisconsin, and we're now keeping it. the same thing as it relates to all numbers of bills they put together. this is just the beginning. these six bills are just the beginning, i pride myself on being pro democracy and i assume everybody in the country is that way, but these bills are not pretty moccasin.
>> governor, there's been a lot of reporting, a lot of reporting recently that the white house thinks that they can out organize republican voter suppression, that they can still win with tiger turnout come 2020 to, say, when you look at places like wisconsin with its gerrymandering where democrats won in 2018, but only a minority of seats in the legislature, that is clearly not the case, you can't out organize a jerry mentor, have you told the white house that, have you told them why aren't senate democrats in d.c. listening? >> well i've made that clear to our own senators, there is no question about that. we need some help from the federal government but even with the gerrymandering piece i think we're gonna be in a pretty good place in wisconsin, were able to work hard in the last election with joe biden to make sure that republicans can not override my veto on these important issues, and as a
result of that i feel confident that we're gonna be in a good place going forward. obviously, there are states all across the country that do not have democratic governors and to have republican legislatures that are in the majority, and around voting it shouldn't look any different in florida as it does in wisconsin, and so we have to make sure that every state has the ability to make sure that they are giving eligible people the right to vote, and that is a national issue. i feel confident here in wisconsin were going to be in a good place. >> you are asked today, governor, whether to wisconsin county should comply -- to turn over their ballots and voting equipments, what are your responses to that? >> well i would say hell no, it's pretty simple, first time it was a subpoena that was issued that didn't have the
authority to do it and second of all it was from a legislature that went down to arizona to see what kind of farcical thing was going on, and they want to bring that in wisconsin. yes, i'm very confident that the two counties will refuse this request this bogus request, but unfortunately it will end up in court and so we're gonna spend taxpayers money to essentially make sure that democracy continues to happen. it isn't an outreach fired republican legislatures who frankly are still dreaming that donald trump won, they have kiss the ring, and this is their way of solving that. >> governor, let's talk covid, 68% of wisconsonites of 18 years old have gone one dose of the vaccine, that's actually lower than the 71% in florida which is in the middle of a
major outbreak, what are you doing to encourage more people in your state to get vaccinated and what is holding them back? >> well, it's a number of factors. that's the complexity here. we lead the nation for several weeks when we had lots of people that wanted to make sure that they got their shots, and we were very successful, it has plateaued, we're still reaching out for people as much as we can. i just have to remind everybody that my ability to require masks was taken away by the supreme court, there's limited things that i can do, but at the end of the day, we're gonna have schools that are going to be safe. we have several of our school districts in the state that have already made that decision. a local decision, helped by local school boards that are saying yes, we need to have everybody masking up. we need to make sure that things go well here. we need to get kids back in school, no question about that,
but school districts are stepping up. am i concerned? absolutely. i've said this a lot of time and it is going to be hand to hand combat now, it's individuals, many of them, frankly, are reticent because they're not part of the health care system, and frankly, they need an extra push, and so i'm encouraging everybody in the state of wisconsin to go through their mental list and fine people who have not been vaccinated and reach out. it's not gonna happen because the governor of the state are encouraging people to do it, it's going to be friends and neighbors that are going to be making this happen in our state. i feel confident about our schools being in a good place going forward. >> governor evers what do you make of your fellow governors in florida and texas, the way they are behaving so recklessly, do you think they have blood on their hands? a lot of people are dying in
the states that don't have to die? >> especially discouraging as it relates to schools, that is my background, when you are telling local school districts that they cannot protect their kids the way they want to, they cannot do something that the parents of that school district wants, the counter productive in this, frankly, we should be in a better place than this. and at the end of the day, it is causing more deaths and it is causing more sickness. >> it's awful to watch. wisconsin governor tony evers we, will have to leave it at that, thank you so much for your time. >> thank you. >> that is all in on this tuesday night, the rachel maddow show starts right now. good evening, rachel. vening, rachel
odd but not explicit e-mails from mark foley. even though i have not seen the e-mails i reported what i'd been told. i've since been told newspapersa had these e-mails for months and foley lied about them. later more e-mails were revealed. so i forced him to resign. i'm disappointed i didn't catch his lies before. for that i'm sorry.ig >> and that's the end of the ad. it ends like that. for that i'm sorry, go to black. he's sorry for that. he's very sorry about that, but what exactly is he sorry about?