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good evening once again. day 204 of the biden administration. millions of americans may soon be eligible for a third shot to boost their immunity. nbc news among those reporting. the fda is expected to green light booster shots for immuno compromised people at first, as soon as the next 48 hours. today the cdc took a step to emdoris vaccines for pregnant women citing new data finding no increased risk of miscarriage. this comes amidst vaccine mandates. employees of amtrak for one were the latest to learn they have to get the shot or submit to weekly testing on the job. the same goes for all staff working in california schools. governor gavin nooms is the first state leader to put such a requirement into place. >> we think this is the right thing to do and we think this is a sustainable way to keeping our
schools open and to address the number one anxiety that parents like myself have. i have four young children. and that is knowing that the schools are doing everything in their power to keep our kids safe. >> on the political front at home we are getting another account of the lengths to which the former president was willing to go in order to hold on to power. katie benner of the "new york times" was first on the board with reporting about the testimony of a former u.s. attorney in atlantic. he testified before the senate judiciary committee. the times reports b.j. told lawmakers his abrupt resignation in january had been prompted by the justice department officials' warning that president trump intended to fire him for refusing to say that widespread voter fraud had been found in georgia. and the "washington post" now reporting that extrump attorney rudolph giuliani who took
trump's elections fraud claims to court and failed told federal agents in 2018 it was okay to throw a fake in the course of a campaign. the post says during that same interview, giuliani's then law partner mark music acie added during a campaign, quote, you're under no obligation to tell the truth. meanwhile, a trump appointed federal judge has rejected efforts by the three top promoters of the federal election fraud lies to toss out defamation suits they're facing for allegedly false statements they made about the election technology firm dominion. it comes as the department of homeland security is warning police departments around the country about possible political violence fueled by those same false election fraud claims. as all this unfolds, house democrats won a partial victory in theirest to get some of trump's financial documents. a judge said they can indeed see
documents covering 2017, 2018, but turned down their request for information dating back to 2011 before trump was president. as for the current president, his agenda moved a little closer to reality this morning when the senate approved a framework form $3.5 trillion plan to expand the social safety net. >> on this vote, the yays are 50. the nays are 49. and the concurrent resolution as amended is agreed to. >> what you just saw there was a party line vote of all democrats, no republicans. and it came just before 4:00 a.m. in the exhausted chamber. this afternoon, the president took something of a victory lap. >> in the past 24 hours, we've sustain senate advance two key pieces of my economic agenda.
historic investments are on the way as well. this is not accidental. it will make a huge difference for families and they'll be fully paid for. this isn't going to be anything like my predecessor whose unpaid tax cuts and other spending added nearly $8 trillion in his four years to the national debt. >> & joe manchin and kyrsten sinema have already started expressing concern. some are worried about the cost and others don't think it goes far enough. with that, let's bring in our lead-off guests. peter baker, veteran journalist and author who is chief white house correspondent for the "new york times." the aforementioned katie benner, justice department reporter, also with the times. she broke tonight's news about
the former president's attempts to subvert the election results. also back with us, michael osterholm from the infectious disease research and policy, university of minnesota. he was also a covid adviser to the biden transition team back then. michael, indeed because of the news, i would like to begin with you. during the simpler days of our single strain, uncontrolled pandemic, we made it a habit of asking you what inning we were in in the fight. those were the days before vaccines. and i'm tempted to ask tonight, have they added on innings in the game or do we find ourselves perhaps in game one of a double-header? >> i guess i would take it in a slightly different direction. i gave up on innings and i'm now into quarters. which minute of the quarters?
these have fundamentally changed the game of so from my perspective right now, it is ball the variant, about what delta is doing, what it will continue to do and what we can do about it. >> i know of your concerns to get the rest of the world vaccinated and i think all good hearted americans agree with you. but are all americans headed for a third shot sooner rather than later? not just the immuno compromised. >> well, one of the things we have to remember as we talk about the vaccines, i hear many people say, oh, my, we didn't know that about the vaccines. we knew from the very beginning. we would live in a world of what we call corrected science. scientists make discoveries. we then change what we're doing based on that discovery. we then have more discoveries and we make changes. in this case what you're hearing about tonight from the fda is not really a booster shot although it is being characterized as that. from many childhood vaccines, we
have three to four doses of the vaccine to be given before we consider them fully vaccinated. we now know with immune compromised people, it will take three doses to get them to the point we want them to be at. then as we move forward, i think you'll find over the course of the next several weeks, you'll hear about waning immunity. that people who are beyond six months after their vaccination end up looking like they may need another booster shot. and that has to be balanced against the fact that right now among the 6.4 billion people living in low and middle income countries, less than 2% have access to vaccines. if we want to approach this from a humanitarian standpoint, we need to do a lot more. even more importantly, we need to approach from a strategic standpoint. and what i mean by that is, this is where the new variants will come spinning out of. all the 6.4 billion people getting infected and frequently now. and so i think we're going to have to balance somehow.
how do we look at people with three doze in the united states and no doses to the majority of the world? >> before i get to the story you broke tonight, a little background. join us in watching this reminder of what trump was saying about georgia, among other states, before the u.s. attorney there resigns. >> do you remember georgia when they said, oh, we had a big flood. we had a pipeline break. a major water pipeline break. there was no pipeline. that was where they took all the biden ballots under the table with the black dress and they took them and started shoving them into the machine. >> in georgia, the secretary of state began levelly processing ballots weeks before election day and also destroyed the signature verification systems. these actions alone were more than enough to rig the election results for democrats. >> so dead people voted and i think the number is in the,
close to 5,000 people. >> so katie, join me in labeling all of that garbage. to your reporting, remain us how georgia fit in the big lie that of course culminated with an attempt to overturn the results of the election. >> trump was obsessed with georgia as we hear in those clips. he was really couldn't vigsed there was fraud in georgia and one of the interesting things, nobody could change his mind. not his own justice department officials. not the officials in georgia, state officials in georgia who also investigated these claims. we heard on leaked audio phone call with the secretary of state that indeed, they had looked into these claims. one of the things in atlanta, they testified to today before the senate judiciary committee was that he too looked into these claims and had not found any evidence to support them. yet, he also told them that this enraged president trump so much that he was warned before his
departure that he would either have to quit or be fired. it was certain he would have to go because trump was so angered by this. >> peter baker, as a journalist, do you have a full sense yet of the lengths the former president went to to stay as president? >> no. i think katie is reporting, just the tim of the iceberg. i think we've seen repeatedly over the last six months, a lot of katie's reports. in time have revealed again and again just how far with the president and his team were willing to go to overturn a democratic election group. falls claims through far fixed theories through pressure in the federal government, in state government, in local positions, people who were beyond his reach. it didn't matter if president trump would try to convince
everyone and pressure everybody into backing his claims. knowing they weren't true. attorney general barr told him, this was all nonsense. he actually used the bs term to tell him, there was nothing there. the u.s. attorney that katie had written about tonight. one of many in the justice department who basically said, there is no there, there. it didn't matter. the president didn't want to hear it. he just wanted anyone who would tell minimum would justify the idea that he could stay in office beyond his democratically constitutionally set term. >> michael, back to you and the issue at hand. i'm going to play for you part of a school board meeting in tennessee that just dissolved over the subject of mask wearing.
>> no more masks! >> there's a place in hell and everybody is taking notes, buddy. yeah. we know who you are. we know who you are. we remind you, we know who you are. >> michael, you and i are close in age and we have the vaccine scars to prove it. i don't recall through the measles, mumps, rubella, polio vaccines, our parents being guided by either their political party or the votes and wishes of politicians. how scary is that atmosphere to you as someone in public health, in this fight every day.
>> well, first of all it causes anger, sadness, and it surely causes a question about how can we move forward with many of these very critical public health activities we need to take on to control this disease. you know, i'm the grandfather of five wonderful children. all of them unfortunately are under the age of 12 so they can't be vaccinated. and i look at how can we protect them in our schools today because we want them to go to school. and that's not easy. it is complicated. what kind of mask do you wear, what kind of vent haitian system do you use? when it boils down to what we just saw, you don't have any discussion about those things. you have discussions about selfish people who are more concerned about personal views for themselves than they are about the safety of their kids. and i don't know how else to describe it than that. at some point, when will we wake up?
how many kids will get sick and die before people realize all this rhetoric will do nothing to provide the lives of these children? >> assuming our viewers can ride with us as we ping pong between subjects, katie benner, back to you and your beat. the january 6th investigation has already for its limited time, i think you would agree, had a high yield. any away you can preview any reason you have to know what's coming in the investigation? >> sure. to your point, about 570 people have now been charged. investigators are moving quickly to push these cases through courts as you can imagine between covid and the backlog that created in the federal courts in washington, and this enormous number of cases, that time is of the essence. you can see the justice department move to try to cut plea deals for defendants. try to achieve guilty pleas and then to also really focus on the
cases that are not the more, they're not breaking and entering, they're not being in places they shouldn't have been. they're not illegally entering the building. but speak to conspiracies to come to washington to try to stop the election. it will take time to get those through courts. that is big challenge facing the justice department right now on january 6th. >> peter baker, final word goes to you. i don't know much but $3.5 trillion seems like a lot of money. talk about how the white house is feeling about the coming fight. not only friendly fire, blue on blue, which they have to face and try to keep down, but what they are looking at to try to advance with anything they can label as bipartisan. >> yeah. i don't think the white house has any illusions that they are going to get this on the second spending package. they're very happy they got
through senate. the first hard bill was passed yesterday with 19 republican votes including mitch mcconnell, the republican leader. they have no illusions it will happen anything like that. this second bill which is what they call human infrastructure. things like universal pre-k, two years of community college, expanded medicare, climate change measures. that kind of thing. they're going to have to do this entirely on their own votes. the democrats have a 50/50 senate with the vice president breaking the tie. there's no room for error. we heard already today even after what the senate advanced over the debate of this blue print, two democratic senators, manchin and sinema, as you mentioned, express their do you think. so the president is spending a lot of time on the bynum approach. he is now focused on the partisan approach. how does he marry the progressive who's want more with
the moderates who are concerned about going too far? >> so thanks to those watching and to our starting three for bouncing along with us between topics to peter baker, katie benner, michael oster holm. our has the for starting off our conversation on this wednesday night. coming up after the first break, a record no one wants. why florida has more covid patients in the hospital than even new york back in the bad old days. the worst days of the pandemic early on. i'll talk to a top physician fighting her way through it. and later, what will republicans do with those pesky texas democrats who left town and ordered a stop oppressive voting restrictions becoming law? if you guessed arrest warrants, why, you would be correct. all of it as the "the 11th hour" is just getting underway this wednesday night. t getting under wednesday night. that's why we created low cash mode, the financial watch out that gives you the options
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florida continues to lead the country in new covid infections, averaging roughly 20,000 new cases every day. data from the federal department of health and human services reveals florida's hospitalizations have broken daily records for 11 days in a row now. first responders and one florida county pleading with the people there to think twice before they call 911 because they're struggling to contain the surge. again, just like the bad old days of the pandemic. the miami herald reports, quote, this new wave is increasingly
affecting younger populations. in terms of the number of chairman hospitalized with covid-19, florida has ranked among two worst states in the nation and hospitals have been sounding alarms. despite the urgency to protect children with things like school mask mandates, the governor remains opposed. >> we believe this is a decision for the parent to make. what we found, fortunately is there is actually, it was higher infection rates when we were just in the community, whether when you're in the classroom. particularly for the younger kids. these kindergarteners and first graders, they're not people really transmitting this in significant levels. >> here to help us make sense of all of it. dr. elaine marty, dr. of infectious diseases in miami. she's a veteran of global medicine with the world health organization and is now part of a task force, advising public
schools in miami on the pandemic. let's tart with a situation report from you will about how bad things are in your area, please. >> very bad. hospitals are between 100 and 160% capacity. i'm talking about the major medical krernts that we have. our urgent cares are backed up. people are waiting ridiculously long hours to get attention because each covid person requires a lot of care. requires a lot of resources and that takes away from every other time of medical care that we need to give to members of our community. and that is really very dramatically stressing our system. especially our health care workers, our nurses, our physicians, our technicians. everyone is under a tremendous
amount of stress and we're running down on resources as well. >> doctor, i tried to avoid dragging you into politics. in this case, i find it all but inevitable and i want to ask you what it like to be in your line of work in a state where the governor is anti-mask. especially and including where it applies to children. >> that is the million-dollar question. because from my perspective, i am only looking at what is the risk benefit ratio of each public health measure that we do or don't use, right? if you look at the risks which are trivial from the use of a mask, compared to the benefits, which are preventing, there is no question that it is going to reduce transmission. we know masks work very, very
well in clinical settings. we have many studies and we've known that for decades. you don't want your dentist not wearing a mask when he is in your mouth. these things are fundamentally, we know they're true. now there are plenty of studies that show the value of masks in social settings. what we don't know is exactly what the best policy is for the use of masks. because we know that masks help, and will reduce transmission, and they only really work when everyone around you is doing it. because once there are people without masks who are shedding virus, the amount of virus in the atmosphere in an unventilated room becomes so high that it can overwhelm the protection you have from your mask and it may also overwhelm the protection you have from a vaccine. so you want to layer as many protections as you can. and you need other people to be wearing their masks as well. and this is a fundamental thing
we have to recognize, that yes, we want liberties and freedoms. my freedom ends when i'm endangering your health. there is a limit in society. we can't be irresponsible. we must be responsible not just for ourselves but for those around us. we munlt put other people in danger. and we have many laws about this. for example, we have laws about secondhand smoke. you can't smoke in a restaurant these days because you're putting other people's lives at risk. so there are freedoms that we voluntarily give up in order to protect others. and i think it is important that we recognize that there is also freedoms that we give up as parents. you're not allowed to leave a minor at home alone. for very, very good sound reasons. so when we impose public health mandates for one reason or another, it is to the benefit of
society at that time, in that moment. in order to do the best thing. that's what these issues are about when it comes to our current situation in florida. very, very dire. and incredibly high viral loads. we're up to 617,000 cases per 100,000 in miami right now, excuse me, in florida right now. and that is not a place where we can sustain not using additional protections. even the vaccines can be overwhelmed. everything can be overwhelmed if the dose is really high. >> final question. this report about ventilators from the national stockpile heading your way. however much the governor says he was not aware of this, didn't request it. it sounds like god forbid, you may need them. >> i'm so sorry to say that it is happening. we are having to put more people
in icu's. the percentage has gone up and our need for ventilators has gone up. we're grateful that more are coming our way. we'll also need more staff. our staff is really overworked. >> yeah. indeed the state of texas is already importing doctors from surrounding states. i am sure it is inevitable in florida. dr. marty, thank you for always being generous with your time and taking our questions along with your forthright answers. coming up, why one of our next guests says maybe just maybe joe biden, chuck schumer, nancy pelosi, actually know what they're doing after the democrats pick up a couple of wins. the more freely with powerful claritin-d. claritin-d improves nasal airflow two times more than the leading allergy spray at hour one. [ deep inhale ] claritin-d. get more airflow. look at you! getting back to normal.
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look, there are some in my caucus who believe it is too much and some who believe it is too little. i can tell you this in reconciliation, one, we are going to all come together to get something done. and two, it will have every part of the biden plan in big, in a big bold robust way. >> the majority leader sounding a note of optimism despite the infrastructure legislation. the deal is contingent on getting democrats in both houses on board. west virginia democratic senator, wait for it, joe
manchin whose support will be key issued this statement saying in part, given the current state of the economic recovery, it is simply irresponsibility to continue spending at levels more suited to respond to a great depression or a great recession. not an economy on the verge of overheating. well, a lot to talk about with our guests. eugene robinson, pulitzer writer, and director at the university of southern cal, co-host of the hacks on tap podcast. eugene, you get to go first. your assessment of the week the democrats have had thus far. >> well, it's been a pretty incredible week, hasn't it? there is no way they were ever going to get a trld infrastructure bill through the senate with 19 republican votes and there was no way they were going to hold together the entire senate democratic caucus to pass up 3.5 trillion budget
resolution. the huge ideological range from joe manchin to bernie sanders. yet here we are. they got both of them done. and there was no way they would do both of these at once, right? so for democrats in a congenital way, i think they're trying to think the sky is falling. the sky is always falling. i think they should entertain the idea maybe the sky isn't falling. maybe joe biden, nancy pelosi, chuck schumer, are good at this. and as we look ahead to all the obstacles that this legislation and everything else will have to cross to actually become fact, maybe they can get a lot of
stuff done. that's what they seem to be doing. they're getting it done. >> mr. murphy, this following quote from mitch mcconnell of the "wall street journal" caught our eye. though the first of these two sentences is on the indecipherable side. it reads, quote, there is nothing to back you up like the promise of a presidential signatory. a word people use every day. if you're in the same party as the president. here's the money bite. so i think the president deserves a lot of credit for getting the democrats open to reaching a bipartisan agreement on this bill. as a mcconnell whisperer, does that mean anything for the future? or is it simply a quote for the "wall street journal"? >> i think he means it. mcconnell could have torpedoed this thing. i think he went for it. i think the translation is biden
stopped the liberal wing of the democratic party from screwing with this thing to let us get to a place where a bunch of republican cosmetic vote for it. i'll give president biden and leader schumer and leader mcconnell a tunnel of credit for this. we needed to show our allies and nato and around the world that we can pass a grown-up bill on something we need to be economically competitive with which is infrastructure. i think they all ought to take a bow in the senate. now we're going to part two. and i'm a little worried about the house where there are a lot of progressive democrats unhappy and they've been beating their dream catchers into staffing sticks lately. i think the infrastructure bill may not be out of woods yet though i hope i'm wrong because the country needs it. >> eugene, to mike's colorful point, is biden's biggest problem blue on blue? friendly fire? >> well, i think that's
overdone. i think blue on blue is overrated. you look at the record so far in the biden administration. yes, you have grumbling from the progressive wing. you have grumbling from the moderate wing. as the house tries to pass the infrastructure bill and also wants to see the senate budget resolution with all the climate provisions and everything in it, they go back and forth about what should come first and what should come now and what should come at all. that's always it, i think. yet nancy pelosi has shown she's very, very good, even though she's only working the three and four-vote majority. she's very good at marshalling
her caucus, finding a way to get what she needs out of the house. so i think anyone who underestimates her ability to do that, even in what many people see as daunting circumstances, i think anyone who underestimates her is frankly a fool. and ought to at least take a glance at her record doing this sort of thing. >> mike, take 45 seconds. i have to get to a break. react to the quotes last week from hakeem jeffries about his parties. about the democrats on the left focused mainly around twitter. his contention was, democrats across this country, a country where trump won, what? 90% of the counties in the united states, democrats by and large are of the moderate variety. >> well, i think he's right. and center left, i wouldn't say
pure moderate. look what is happening in these elections where the grassroots democrats are speaking. ohio 11, the super progressive candidate was 20 points ahead. collapsed and lost. new york city mayor's race, the top two finishers were the moderate democrats. so i think the twitter verse and the real democratic party are not the same thing. and i think they need to american lesson. hakeem already has. >> both of these gentlemen along from their respective dream catchers have agreed to stay with us over this break. coming up, the war over voting rights now includes arrest warrants delivered in door to door visits for those texas democrats fighting to protect the ballot. otect the ballot but i know i've got this. and when it comes to controlling his type 2 diabetes, my dad's got this, too. with the right choices, you have it in you to control
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i don't know what else texas democrats can do to get this thing past the finish line but i am confident that we have given it our all. and i'm going to my district. not to the floor. i'm going to hopefully stave off some of the issues that we're having because our governor fails to lead as it relates to covid-19. >> the texas democrats who spent the last month breaking quorum in washington are taking the voting rights fight back home under the threat of arrest. the u.s. senate ajournaled without taking up federal legislation, putting it off until at least september. they of course needed their summer break. in the texas capital, the house sergeant at arms went door to door earlier today armed with civil arrest warrants. not criminal for any democratic lawmakers who might have shown up. part of governor anti-'s political performance art initiative. now senator carol alvarado is
about to enter her fifth hour of a filibuster. a little mr. smith action to draw attention on voter suppression efforts. still with us, our friends unit eeg robinson and mike murphy. mike, to you first. are you surprised at the drive, at the passion and stick to ittiveness of these texas democrats? and what do we look to thus far to say has been a result? >> well, first i have to say, i generally root for the taylor machine to do one more mr. smith reference here. you have to admire their passion but ultimately, this is today bookie theater. i'm with them on the issue. you get elected. this has happened before in texas. they do the quorum thing. eventually you have to show up and vote. so with the supreme court acting, i think the jig is up and they'll have to go participate now or risk being arrested.
we don't need any more kabuki theater. if they don't have the votes, they don't have the votes. >> and eugene, i know you've thought a lot about this and you've written about this. what happens if voting rights fail in the u.s. senate? >> well, look. i've talked about how democrats love to worry. if they wanted something to worry about voting rights. it is such an important issue. many democrats see it as an existential issue for our democracy. not just for the party. that said, you know, i'm not ready to write it off. write off the possibility that something actually gets through somehow. hard to imagine exactly how that happens. it is maybe how it starts. senator schumer along with
senator warnock, senator manchin, i think senator king and one other. they're already trying to craft a voting rights, a federal voting rights bill that is broadly acceptable to the entire democratic caucus in the senate. now, the question is, even if you get all the democrats on board, how do you get over the filibuster? and it may come down to crunch time. it may come down to bringing that legislation up and getting it to the floor and then seeing, finally in the end, what joe manchin and kyrsten sinema are willing to do with an existential piece of legislation that they support and that they helped craft.
and so we may get to that point. we may see. because i don't see republicans, any of them, jumping in to support this effort however reasonable, however necessary. they're just not going to budge on this. >> mike, 45 seconds again. here we are. the last word in the segment. is it sustainable for ron desantis who appears to have no limit in what he's willing to do or say for the support of the maga community, is it a sustainable brand to run on if you're anti-mask and ergo, anti-child safety in your state with a staggering death toll? >> i think he's put himself in a bad corner. he's playing republican primary politics, he even has a bit of an auction on how can outanti-mask each other with ted cruz who also wants to be
president. the problem is desandalis has a re-elect where his polling number have collapsed. if he is the drum major for the biggest march of stupidity of any state in the country, which is what's grg on in florida. i think even the republicans will sour on this over time. i think he's making a political mistake. he is one of these guys afraid to back down. so the problem is come pounding. >> this number may get some traction. the florida death toll now exceeds the margin he won by in florida. so the constituency he's looking to may be gone in the worst way. our friends of the broadcast. gentlemen, thank you both for sticking around and talking tonight. coming up for us, where america has pulled out, the taliban is rushing in. tonight in afghanistan, there are worries that kabul will fall
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concern is growing in afghanistan as the taliban continues to take ground from afghan fighting forces across the country. politico reporting there are now internal discussions underway about possibly evacuating the u.s. embassy in kabul. all of this happening, of course, in the vacuum of the u.s. pullout after a 20-year war. we get our report again tonight from nbc news foreign correspondent kelly cobiella in kabul. >> reporter: tonight the taliban with prisoners are free after they said they overwhelmed the jail holding the insurgents and flung open the gates. this after a devastating setback in the north for afghan officials.
hundred of soldiers under siege at the airport reportedly surrendered. the taliban video shows vehicles, weapons, even an attack helicopter now in their hands. by some estimates, the taliban now controls 65% of afghanistan. more families are fleeing to the capital kabul every day. this woman says the taliban are not allowing girls and women to go to the market. under the taliban, girls were banned from school and women from work. many here are terrified those dark days are about to return. do you worry about the girls' safety today? >> yes. she says. they tell us, you all might die. >> reporter: it upsets you. yes, she says. i tried to help the women. i am very sad. when i see all these girls, i get really upset now. today a student at the american university here told me that her mother bought her a burqa. not because she wants her to
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favorite republican or insurrection enthusiast in your life, from rudy giuliani himself. and who knows? throw in a little extra, maybe he'll do that trick where he produces the drippy brown goo. besides, it would be a keep sake. think about it. how many personal greetings will you get in your lifetime from people under federal investigation? you know, press reports say rudy really does need money. he was apparently never paid for the superb legal services he provided to trump. in fact, this was our first indication that rudy may indeed be short on cash. >> i've been sleeping on my pillows for some time. i love them. simply the very best pillows ever made. i just found out they have a wide assortment of other incredible products like mattress toppers, sheets, slippers and more. >> rudy is in the news tonight because of "washington post" and "new york times" reporting quoting transcripts of rudy's fbi interviews in which his law
partners are quoted as saying, there is no obligation to tell the truth in a presidential campaign and rudy said it is okay to throw a fake, as he put it, and make up as he apparently did, information on hillary clinton. he said the fbi agents were giving him during the trump campaign. fbi was understandably surprised to learn their agents were leaking to rudy. they were not. it was just rudy making it all up. rudy isn't hung up on the truth and it made us wonder about the viability of the big lie. it is not a great look, any of it, for a lawyer. specially a former u.s. attorney. this wasn't a great look either, come to think of it. but that's all behind him now that he's in the business of customized personal greetings. so he has that going for him. that's our broadcast this wednesday night. our thanks for being here. on behalf of all my colleagues at nbc news, good night.
>> the word failure is almost never good news, the word failure coming from a doctor all the more so. but when you hear that word used as it was today by the clinical director of one states flak ship university and number one trauma, when you hear that word failure, used this specific way by this specific kind of doctor, that is not just bad news, that is national news. >> so, since the pandemic i think the things that hospitals have feared the most's total fa