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that could actually throw a wrench in the progress. and the delta variant is ripping through the u.s. specifically the south as hospitals run out of room, and states see a record number of cases and it's causing a dire situation in texas, even for kids. >> if your child has a congenital heart defect or something, he's in an icu bed, or more likely if they have covid in an icu bed, we don't have one. your child will wait for another child to die. >> we're going to speak with an e.r. doctor at the front line of the crisis in texas. your favorite social media accounts may be soon shifting, the focus of their content. talking with two of the influencers helping their communities get the shot as we do say good morning, everybody on this saturday morning. it is turning out to be a very busy one. live at msnbc headquarters in new york. lindsay will be along shortly. this morning the u.s. military operation is now well under way
in afghanistan to try to evacuate the u.s. embassy in kabul. some 3,000 american forces arriving by tomorrow. their mission, to help american civilians and u.s. allies get to the kabul airport to be air lifted out of the country. the military says this is a temporary mission. the speed with which the taliban is taking control appears to have caught the u.s. by surprise. >> the deteriorating conditions are a factor, a big factor, in why the president has approved this mission. clearly, from their actions, it appears as if they are trying to get kabul isolated. >> the taliban has quickly retaken control of nearly every major city, and have just taken control of a province, just miles from kabul, with the capital now in its sights, nearly 20 years after u.s. forces invaded and just a short time ago afghan president gani
addressing the nation for the first time in days. he did not resign as many expect he do, as the taliban demanded he do so as well. instead saying his focus is working to stop the violence. we have a team of correspondents and experts to break down this news story that's developing at the moment. let's join shannon pettypiece to get us started from the white house. the president is spend the next few days in camp david. are his national security advisers there with him? >> the white house has said the president will be briefed, will continue to be briefed. he was on friday and throughout the weekend on the situation there. the white house, though, said on friday that the president has no regrets about his decision. they indicated that they are staying to course and that his focus primarily at this point is on getting those americans out of the country that are scheduled to be removed and ensuring that the forces being sent in are safe. the focus of the administration is on america's interests, on making sure that americans stay
safe and are securely gotten out of the country, and that is where we have been told the president's thinking has been at these past 24 hours. >> and shannon, the president has said his mind is made up with all of this, and that the u.s. is definitely leaving afghanistan. within a few weeks. he seems to be willing to take the hit, except how this is playing out. and trust that the majority of american public agrees with him, that it is time. is that where he's going on here? in his thinking? >> that continues to be what we're hearing from the white house, and we certainly heard that from the president just days ago. the administration officials, the president had maintained they don't believe there is a military solution in afghanistan. they say they're going to continue to work on the diplomatic front. they are going to continue to offer aid and assistance, and try and reach a diplomatic solution for the country but that they don't view sending in more u.s. military as any sort of long-term solution for this
country. it is a politically difficult position the president has taken. he has certainly come under a lot of criticism. not just from republicans but even members of his own party. former obama administration officials criticizing him for this. but this is a position that president biden has had, even long before he was president, where he has believed that is not the role of the u.s. military to be in afghanistan at this point, that there is no advancement in u.s. national security interests by keeping u.s. forces in the country. >> so let me pick up on that right there. there are those, some in the biden administration, who will argue that u.s. troops could stay in afghanistan for another year, ten years, 50 years for that matter. you'd still see the same thing happen. but what's the white house's response to the sentiment that some feel we're really abandoning the afghan people right now? >> well, their response to that has been that they're going to try to help the afghan people through diplomacy, through aid, through foreign assistance. but not by having military
troops on the ground, that the role for the u.s. military is to protect u.s. national security interests, and at this time they don't see a u.s. national security threat developing because of the situation that's currently unfolding in afghanistan. now, that could change down the road certainly, but they believe that this is now the role of the afghan people, of the afghan security forces, of the afghan government to step up, and show some leadership for the country to unite and that this is a situation for the afghan people to solve, not for the u.s. military. >> all right, shannon pettypiece getting us started right now in the 7:00 hour here in the east coast, from the white house. shannon, thank you. do want to bring in right now nbc news correspondent kelly cobiella who will be in afghanistan for us, and also with us is kevin barron, the executive editor of defense one. and kristen rous is a u.s. army veteran and founder of new york city veterans, welcome to both of you.
credit ten, starting with you, as a veteran of the war on afghanistan, get your reaction, what is happening right now on the ground, you served three tours in that country. >> yes, and thank you so much for having me. this is absolutely heartbreaking, just gut wrenching to watch. i am so sorry for everyone we worked with in afghanistan for what is happening right now. this is a humanitarian catastrophe. our -- you know, the afghan national army kroops, who i worked with for nine months, you know, they've been left in so many ways, stranded and it looks like unsupported in many ways by their government, and, you know, with nobody else to turn to. and they're making just really just agonizing decisions in the field on whether to sacrifice all of their soldiers or not.
i mean, this is really, you know, such a surprising, well calculated takeover by the taliban. but it is absolutely heartbreaking, and, you know, many of us, i'm just one of so many veterans who are still connected to folks in afghanistan, interpreters who we're still trying to get out. other allies who we're still trying to get out who are just absolutely trapped by bureaucracy. by closed borders, by the taliban controlling check points. what we're hearing from our friends and colleagues in afghanistan is just hair raising, harrowing, gut wrenching, it's just terrible to watch. >> let me bring in our colleague kelly cobiella nbc news, our foreign correspondent joining us in kabul. kelly, i want to get a sense of the reaction on the ground. we know the afghan president spoke just a couple hours ago. he did not resign, he said that they plan to be remobilizing. what does he mean by that?
>> reporter: well, i mean, you have a situation now in kabul where you have thousands of people who have come in from other provinces, you have, you know, a city of 3 million, a capital city where people are incredibly anxious about what is to come, fighting, heavy fighting reported in border provinces this morning and this was a message to reassure the people of afghanistan that the government was listening, the government was aware, and is doing something. i mean, this comes in a wider context of the people of afghanistan not hearing from central government over the past several days. not hearing about any sort of strategy or game plan as to how maybe some of these capitals could be retaken, or at least there was a resistance being put up somewhere. or what the status was of kabul itself and how it was going to be protected. so i think that's part of what we're hearing from ghani is just a message to try to reassure the
population. in terms of concrete actions, of what can be done next, there are all sorts of rumors swirling, there's all sorts of possibilities, the taliban has made very clear that they want ghani gone, that they even told earl yes in the week they told the pakistani prime minister that they would not even negotiate a cease-fire until the president steps down. >> kelly, while you're there, what do we know of the effort that's taking place and the u.s. embassy there to try to get those thousands of american civilians and workers out of there at this point? >> reporter: sure. well, we haven't heard any detailed plans about how the u.s. military is going to evacuate these personnel, but i'll give you the lay of the land so you understand it a little bit better. the embassy is about two miles from the entrance to the airport. it's a straight shot down a wide boulevard, a big road to the airport.
it can get very congested at times. when there's -- you know, when there isn't a lot of traffic it takes about ten minutes to get there. you know, it's possible that the u.s. forces could block off the road and just evacuate people straight down to the airport but i want to make clear we haven't heard of any plans from the u.s. military how they're going to do it. it is a fairly quick route. the one complication, and i'm sure there are many more i haven't thought about is if there is some sort of panic in the city, and people start going in droves to the airport and just the area around the airport becomes incredibly congested and difficult to get to. >> let's go to kevin barron there with defense one, kevin, you heard what kelly cobiella was saying with the situation on the ground. yesterday we heard from the pentagon and the official spokesperson saying they were deeply concerned by the situation there. you equated that to thoughts and
prayers. >> yeah, well susan glasser did that comparison, i was happy to retweet it. the boss of foreign policy now, the new yorker, covering foreign policy longer than i have. there are a lot of frustrated, i think, reporters who have covered this war just as long as the veterans that have been fighting it, seeing what basically has been the pentagon throwing up its hands and the last few days' announcements of sending in a few thousand troops to help with the evacuation, and folks should be clear that these are not troops that are going in to fight back. they're not going in to help the afghan army keep kabul secure. that would have to be some other kind of emission. there are very senior veterans, former obama administration and democratic allies like general john allen, former commander himself who's now the president of the brookings institution calling for president biden to
basically reverse course, to set a red line, especially for kabul and tell the taliban -- put out some parameters to say you have to top. this is the red line for the united states or there will be military action. he's calling on the president to name specific units that will be called up and ready to go, more than ones we've seen before. but i think he believes that that's all good rhetoric as well, but it's not going to happen. we're seeing no sign whatsoever from the white house that there's any kind of turnaround coming. the afghans are for all intents and purposes on their own. >> kristen, i want to get a sense of your personal standpoint. this is a war that's been 20 years, more than $2 trillion above all, some 2,000 service members plus have passed away as a result of this, have been killed, rather i should say, as a result of all of this. was it all worth it, including your service. >> that is such a vast question to answer. i'm proud of serving with afghans. i'm proud of what i learned from
them. i believe that afghan people are worth an investment of standing with them as friends, as allies against terror, against, you know, human rights violations, against murder, against mass executions. it is always worth standing with friends against atrocities. you know, i can't speak for all of the gold-star families who i know who are just suffering with anguish right now. i can speak as one soldier who is still deeply connected with people and efforts in afghanistan. and i think it's not looking backward, but looking forward to what are we doing for the afghan people? what are we doing for our afghan friends? what are we doing right now, now that there is a humanitarian crisis, now that there is chaos, now that we have all of our
friends, like thousands -- tens of thousands, possibly hundreds of thousands of our interpreters and allies and folks who stood up to build a better afghanistan. what are we doing for them now? and, you know, humanitarian relief operations we've seen the military bring in cargo planes, and evacuate people. my training is as a military lo -- what size airframes can we get in now and air lift people out. there are interpreters now who i'm in touch with, getting cryptic messages from the embassy saying come back in september. there is no embassy to come back to in september. the process for applying for these visas is opaque. it is difficult. it is confusing. we need to get people out now, instead of telling them to go to a third country at their own expense. good luck. we have to get people out now.
>> yeah, so many people have been hoping that pakistan and iraq would open its borders so that some of these people could try to escape there. kevin, really quickly -- >> not pakistan, people have nowhere to go. i'm just -- this is -- i'm echoing what i'm hearing from afghans, even i've just been messaged as we've been speaking. this is -- people are desperate to get out. they -- they're going to be killed. >> i can hear the emotion in your voice about all of this, kristen. >> we have to act now. the opining over whether -- whether it was worth it, do we send in troops, what are we doing for afghans now? these are lives on the line. people who served with us, people who allied with us, people who believed in us, what are we doing for them right now? >> and kevin, i have about 15 seconds or so. let's play this game. we did it a lot during the trump administration. what if this was all happening
during trump's administration? >> i don't know. i mean, look, it started with the trump administration. trump, you know, ran on a platform of ending forever wars and he significantly decreased the number of troops, we reported a lot of veteran commanders who said 8,000 to 9,000 was the minimum, to keep the lid on the violence and keep supporting the afghans so that all this diplomacy could happen and trump took a chance by negotiating with the taliban and here we are. but it's on biden, who, you know, ran it over the goal line and made this decision to pull out and kristen's right, what can we do now? the pentagon is sending enough airframes to takous thousands of people, afghans and americans, per day, so we're as anxious as she is to see which airframes they are, and who's allowed to get on those planes. >> yes, we are, all right, we're going to leave it there with kevin barring and kristen rouse and our thanks to kelly cobiella
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welcome back, i'm lindsey reiser, to the coronavirus pandemic in florida, the state is reporting a 74% increase in covid deaths from just last week. there were also more than 150,000 new covid cases this week averaging more than 20,000 a day. other states in the south are seeing similar trends, hospitals are running out of icu beds and some are facing staffing shortages as vaccination rates remain low. nbc's stephanie stanton is live in tampa, florida. stephanie, what is the trajectory there, and is governor desantis doing anything differently to combat covid? >> well, lindsay, governor
desantis announced earlier this week that he is enacting a rapid response unit which has started dispensing antibodies to those that need it. the teams are also expected to go to long-term care facilities and he's going to start this program in the city of jacksonville. he hopes to expand it throughout the state. of course, as you mentioned, this is one step that the governor is taking as we are seeing a rise in cases here in florida. as you just reported, according to the latest figures from the florida department of health, more than 151,000 people here in the sunshine state diagnosed with covid. that's a positivity rate of about 19%. and all of this, of course, coming as millions of florida school children are heading back to class this week, and i am here outside roosevelt elementary. this is in hillsboro county in the tampa area. this school has reported 13 employees have been forced to quarantine after diagnosing or after being diagnosed positive, covid positive.
so that is a disruption to this class. on the other side of the state in palm beach county, there were some 440 students on day two, when they returned back to school, that were also forced to quarantine, and so you are seeing those disruptions in the classrooms, this, of course, coming as we are seeing, according to the cdc, a rise in cases among young children. of course, those under the age of 12 who are not eligible to get the vaccine. of those overall cases, though, in florida that we talked about, 151,000 last week, roughly 16,700 or 22% were those in kids under 12. again, those ineligible for the vaccine. this is the concern. we're seeing the rise in cases and seeing the rise in hospitalizations among kids and, of course, parents here also still many of them upset about the -- the unwillingness, if you will, of the governor to mandate masks within schools. lindsay? >> certainly the wrong trend
lines we want to be seeing there. stephanie stanton, thank you. as florida battles its own covid surge the situation in texas has become dire. in a population of 30 million people only about 300 icu beds are available. and hospitalizations continue to climb to more than 11,000. 40 texas children are now hospitalized with covid every day. that's the highest rate in a year. in dallas the county judge said no pediatric icu beds are available and haven't been for at least 24 hours. joining us is a an emergency medicine physician and assistant professor at baylor college of medicine. thank you for joining us in these circumstances. walk us through what the situation is like right now in your hospital? >> let me tell you what it's like first in the south. you know, your reporter was talking about what's happening in schools. georgias is on my mind this morning, my sister and her two
kids, my niece and nephew made it only a day and a half before my sister got a phone call saying they needed to pick up her kids for quarantine. she was talking about florida strategy waiting for people to catch covid as opposed to treating it and treating it with masks or vaccinations, mississippi's burning, there was a school district there, pearl river high school in mississippi, 40% of their kids are out on quarantine after positive contacts in the first week of school. the tide is rolling in alabama. it's the state with the highest coronavirus testing positivity nation -- positivity in the nation. louisiana right now, catching covid, nine out of ten people hospitalized that are unvaccinated. like we've been saying all along, this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated, and in texas, everything is bigger right now, except as you led into, except for our icu bed availability. where i am in houston, we have a nine county area covered by region "q," and there are only
56 beds, icu beds, available for 6.6 million people across our region. what we're seeing in the hospitals, as you originally asked, is that we're full. people are staying down in the ers for at least a day sometimes before they get a bed. the ability of us to transfer someone to a hospital that needs specialized services is not going to happen. so if you happen to be in a major car wreck, to have a heart attack, to have a stroke and need to go from one hospital to the next, good luck. >> doctor, you are painting such a stark picture. i mean, just dozens of beds available for millions of people. when we talk again about school and we know two of texas' biggest districts are going back on monday. what do you think is the best plan of action, how do we prevent on day two, that phone call, your kid has to quarantine. >> simple, wear a mask, make your kids wear a mask. and, you know, fortunately where i am, my son is in a school, he is not eligible for vaccinated,
it's an elementary school, he's in an institution where they believe in masking. and every person has to have a mask on. otherwise, they won't be able to go to school, and there was one parent i was told that was very upset about this, that parent's going to another school. so at least for me i can feel confident that my kid's safe, but other parents may not have that option, if you're in school districts that aren't allowed to mask. good thing is, some of the courts recently allowed the big cities, san antonio, houston, dallas, austin to be able to implement mask mandates for their schools. >> doctor, i want to talk to you also, texas is planning on bringing in 2,500 out of state medical workers to help with this crisis. i mean, we talked to dr. derek qass in the last in the hour and she said what we are seeing in the south is going to bleed into other states. right now this is a solution but as more and more states might
see an uptick in cases, this is enough to avoid catastrophe. >> 2020 was technically the year of the nurse, 2021 is burning them all out. you may not have that many emergency nurses left to staff these beds in 2022 because people, the american people are not doing what they need to do in order to help us get control of this pandemic. >> dr. cedric dark, we certainly hope things improve there in your area but we appreciate you coming on with us and hope you'll come back and update us and have a better picture to paint. thank you, doctor. heavy rain across the florida keys this morning as tropical depression fred slogs toward the sunshine state. we're keeping an eye on its path. a new storm that just formed on its heels this morning, also with the u.s. in its sights. th.
heavy rain is coming down in cuba in the florida keys this morning as tropical depression fred inches ever closer. governor ron desantis issuing a state of emergency for parts of florida ahead of the storm and people are stocking up. they're gathering their sandbags in miami as well as as far north as bradenton south of tampa, with up to ten inches of rain in the forecast. msnbc meteorologist janessa webb is tracking fred's path, as well as a second storm now, grace. janessa i know you've been vocal on this on twitter. how worried are you for people in its path? >> it's not one, but two, as you said, this has been a very fluid situation overnight with tropical storm grace. the problem is, you have two different storms and their behaviors are very different. this just coming in, due to tropical storm grace, we have tropical alerts, warnings in place for puerto rico into the virgin islands.
so with grace, by the moment, this storm system continues to get stronger. now, the behavior of tropical depression fred, it's currently over land and it's very disorganized. the problem is, most people are trying to focus more on grace because it's a larger storm system, but what's going to happen with tropical depression fred, it's going to go back into open water. i'm expecting this storm system to reenergize, just in the next few hours, it's already starting to make its way offshore. and that's why tropical alerts are still in place for the florida keys, and portions of southwest florida. it's not time to let your guard down, due to the storm system, only being a depression. the impacts are still the same and we've always said that this storm is a big-time rainmaker. the flood threat is big across the keys to miami, due to low-lying areas, this is a flood prone area. now forecasting three to five
inches, but there will be some isolated spots that could pick up ten inches of rain. now the change in this forecast that just happened at 5:00 a.m., it first will take a right turn. then we'll start to see the movement more to the left, and it goes back into the gulf. the problem is, it's not just southwest florida, now it's alabama, to mississippi, the florida pan handle and i will not rule out louisiana. so sustained winds of 35 miles per hour, you can see later on this afternoon into the overnight hours it really starts to reenergize. the strength starts to pick up and then we'll watch for that potential landfall going into overnight hours for monday into tuesday and then still impacting parts of georgia. now let's focus on grace. as i said, by the minute, this situation continues to change, it's 420 miles from the leeward islands, sustained winds there a little bit stronger. the problem is, it's going very
fast. it's kind of doing that intensification stage, and that's why these alerts have been put in place. we will be talking about grace going into your monday, tuesday. and then really look at this cone, lindsay, wednesday into thursday, it's very wide. the problem is, we don't know if it's going to steer more to the right or will it steer more to the left? we still have plenty more time with this storm system, right now, we can focus on florida. it will be impacted, but now we're just going to watch the steering of the storm system. >> all right, janessa webb, thank you for that important reporting, we appreciate it and we're going to continue to follow breaking developments overseas, the taliban's lightning offensive, inching closer to the afghan capital. what the the u.s. is doing to slow their march. today executive director of me too international, tarana burke, the r. kelly trial, governor andrew cuomo's resignation and where the me too movement stands
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fitzgerald in london. american troops on the ground in afghanistan as the u.s. embassy in kabul clears out. meagan what do these evacuations mean? >> lindsay, i can tell you there's growing concern and criticism as well in the way in which president biden has handled the withdrawal of troops in this afghanistan. just the other day we heard from a former ambassador from britain to afghanistan who expressed deep concern, saying that 20 years is not enough time for the afghans to build a solid democracy there. and fearing that, you know, the afghans are sort of left to defend for themselves. so as we see what the taliban has been able to do so quickly in taking over much of the country as they inch closer to kabul, there's this global scramble, if you will, of course the u.s. troops sending in about 3,000 troops to try and ensure the safety of the personnel
there at the u.s. embassy in kabul. we're seeing other nations doing the same, or at least drastically diminishing their personnel from den mark to switzerland, to norway, canada, great britain. but then, you know, there's also talk about what's happening there with the women of the country and how over the last 20 years there was hope. there were women going to school, being able to have jobs and so now, of course, there's growing concern and fear of what's to come as we see the nation drastically deteriorating, and a humanitarian crisis looming, lindsay. >> indeed, megan fitzgerald, thank you for updating us on this developing situation, we appreciate it. and here at home, developing on capitol hill, the battle lines are drawn, and the gloves are off between house speaker nancy pelosi, and nine of her fellow democrats. at issue, those nine democrats that you see, they're moderates, they're demanding an immediate vote on the infrastructure bill passed by the senate earlier
this week, and to get it they're withholding support, threatening to do that for their party's budget resolution. if you'll recall that's a $3.5 trillion human infrastructure plan but speaker pelosi is holding her ground, siding with progressives. >> we can't call people moderate democrats who vote against child care paid leave, and addressing climate change. that is a democratic agenda. it is the president's agenda and it's what we promised. >> nbc's julie tsirkin is live on capitol hill following the developments. how fragile is all of this right now? >> reporter: you heard from the chair of the congressional progressive caucus and she's basically saying those nine moderate democrats are threatening biden's entire agenda. that $3.5 trillion budget resolution is the framework. the first step in really getting the ball rolling on this reconciliation package next
week, or should i say august 23rd, they're set to take that up, the house is. the nine moderates are saying we're not going to take it up unless we see a vote on the bipartisan package first, that $550 billion package that passed the senate earlier this week, so progressives and moderates at a stand still right now, pelosi is in the middle, holding firm to her promise to get on the budget resolution and withhold the bipartisan bill which means it could be weeks if not months until we see infrastructure bills signed by the president. for right now moderates really threatening pelosi's agenda, and saying this is an election issue for us, pelosi knows she needs those votes and she needs more than that. the seats, many moderates hailing from swing districts as well. >> such a good point there, julie. a lot of people are heralding this bipartisan plan saying this is proof the senate is able to get things done but senator lindsey graham, for example, one of the senator, one of the
lawmakers getting backlash at home for supporting it. >> yes, senator lindsey graham overnight the post and courier reporting the aiken county republican party overwhelmingly voting to censure him. that censure itself is a slap on the wrist. doesn't mean much for him saz this moves forward with one local party there opposing his support for the $550 billion bipartisan bill. if you remember former president trump in the weeks and days leading up to that vote. she was threatening all republicans who were considering voting for the bill, including senator lindsey graham, who is a big ally of the former president's. of course he didn't listen. he voted to get on the bill but this really is part of the dynamics that we were all watching here in the weeks leading up to it. 19 republicans voted for the bill, of course senate minority leader mitch mcconnell, one of them, providing cover for his members, to take that vote, that back home can be seen as politically challenging with allies of president trump. now as we see this next election cycle, we saw two senators, at least two of them, slip off of the vote, that includes jerry
moran and todd young up for reelection in 2022 and sow this as a politically difficult vote for them but senator lindsey graham just won reelection. this isn't an issue for him. lindsay. >> you lee governments are turning to, who else? social media stars to get more shots in arms but is it working? we'll ask our guests if they've been able to sway any of their tens of thousands of followers just after the break. reak age is just a number. and mine's unlisted. try boost® high protein with 20 grams of protein for muscle health. versus 16 grams in ensure high protein. boost® high protein also has key nutrients for immune support. boost® high protein. shingles? oh... you mean bill. bhe's been a real pain.o has key nutrients
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i know you miss ball games. i know you miss hanging out. me personally i miss the club. i'm vaccinated and i'm back outside. >> yeah. social media stars joining the vaccinated. the u.s. saw the biggest one day tally for vaccinations yesterday in a month. nearly 1 million people got the vaccine yesterday and social media influencers may have had a part in that progress. some have made it their mission to fight the vaccine hesitancy. especially for communities of color. joining us now is the activist influencer and project chicago founder and a white sox fan mckinley nelson and also joining us is professional dancer. welcome to both of you. we saw your video right there. you normally work combat street violence using basketball and entertainment.
now you're work with my shot campaign to help black and latino communities seek vaccine information. why did you agree to kind of donate your platform to this and are you worried about alienating your loyal followers? >> no. i got some crazy comments. but i was ready for that. when i signed up for it. i decided in a personal way that the pandemic affected us. we weren't able to do our job. not able to safe lives. we wanted to use basketball combat violence and schools weren't opened and classrooms weren't. everybody used basketball, couldn't do anything. i wasn't able to do my job. when the shot came around, it was for me to push everybody around me to get a shot. so i continue to do my job.
>> similar sort of question because new fused your vaccine message with references to native american culture and dance. how do you feel that highlighting your culture kind of helped you reach more people in the indigenous community? >> i feel it's really important message to get out only because as we talk about backlashes, there were, you know, some comments i've seen with backlashes with other people in my community and i thought it was important to get the message out there. try to lead by example. i'm concerned also for our culture in preserving that, preserving our language, preserving the beauty of that when we eventually can come together. continuing that legacy. most importantly protect our elders. people in the community that are more well versed in our practices and traditions. this is one of the driving factors for me. >> 70% of the adult population
have at least one dose of the vaccine here in the u.s., only about 10% of black and 16% of the hispanic community have that. why do you think communities of color are hesitant to get the vaccine? what have you seen among your friends and family members? >> like the access and internet can be powerful. also make us really ignorant to a lot of things. there's more conspiracy theories out there. i heard about the shot. i know we do have to trust medicine, trust the government within minorities but like right now at this time this is the best time to trust medicine, trust technology and it doesn't make sense to me. i hear about my peers and others in the culture, having some kind of feelings about the vaccine when, you know, people are lining up to get the shot. that's a battle in my conversation about promoting the
vaccine. but, as long as the conversation is opening up i'm doing my job. >> the administration is trying to do whatever they can. they had one of the biggest singing stars of the year at the white house pushing the vaccine. yesterday the guy with the sign at the white house as well, 7 million followers. padora you have a large following on social media. do you think that people are more spongive to you because of your reputation in the media? >> i believe people read a lot of things they see on the internet. sometimes it's comforting to know there's a real person out there having this experience and sharing that. for me that's all i'm trying to do is share my experiences. stories and things. it's hit close the home for me this pandemic with people i know. and lives lost. and i've seen what it has been doing to communities, you know, both within my dance
communities, within native american community, within all communities. for me i feel like i got a lot of questions when i was sharing the stuff and felt it was one thing for people to go out there and research but you don't feel so alone in your seerch. i do feel it was comforting for people to be able to be there. and to share some resources that were provided to me from medical professionals. so, yeah. >> all right. appreciate you guys being part of this came campaign. you know a lot of people, nothing will get somebody to roll their eyes when he they hear the term influencer. very quick. glad that you guys are making a difference out there. thank you guys so much. >> thank you. >> on behalf of lindsay and i thank you for watching msnbc reports. we'll be back tomorrow morning at 6:00 a.m. eastern time together. velshi starts right now. today on velshi we'll take to you kabul for the very latest in the deteriorating situation
in afghanistan where the taliban is retaking territory at an alarming place. new details are emerging about the man being called the most dangerous trump official you never heard of. and why the danger to democracy is not over. and i'll be joined by two texas lawmakers who fled the state to block a republican voter suppression bill and are now subject to arrest thanks to an escalating fight with their republican governor and colleagues. you won believe how much a handful of mega rich families benefitted from some very specific almost bespoke tax cuts that were larded into the failed president's tax bill. there's secret documents that tell the shocking story and i'll talk to the reporter who unearthed them. velshi starts now. good morning. it is saturday, august 17th. we begin