tv The Rachel Maddow Show MSNBC September 9, 2021 9:00pm-10:00pm PDT
on this thursday evening. along with our thanks to you for being here with us, on behalf of all our colleagues at the networks of nbc news, good night. you started the summer of 1964. you go through the summer of 1965. and you get to the whole shocking climax of a thing, by the summer of 1966. it was a short period of time, it was world shaking stuff. but it happened fast, and definitively. and it all spilled out over the course of those two years. 64 to 66. starting the summer of 1964. president lyndon bains johnson, size the civil rights act. he signed the civil rights act of 1964 into law.
that's the civil rights act that had been filibusters by segregationist for 54 straight days. but in the end, their efforts to stop it failed. they signed. it in the civil rights act of 1964 banned segregation. in public facilities, also in private facilities to which the public had access. and the segregationist at the time, screamed bloody murder. it's unconstitutional, you can't tell private entities what's to do. actually yes, yes you can. in the summer of 1964, president johnson made that law of the land. then the following summer. july 1965, lbj, actually went out on the road this time for an unusual signing ceremony. he went to missouri. two presidential's librarian -- to sign into law the bill that created medicare. and medicaid. he went to truman's presidential library, because it had been president truman her first proposed the u.s.
government should commit to providing health coverage to all elderly people in the country. truman could not get it done while he was president. but in 1965, lbj got it done. he signed the bill. creating medicare, in july 1965. and of course, the conservatives at the time screamed bloody murder, a high-profile conservative activist at the time named ronald reagan. denounced this new program. this medicare program as the end of america. as the end of freedom. it would mean a communist takeover of america, be very very afraid. lbj was not afraid. and it turns out. giving health insurance coverage to all the old people in the country, doesn't turn us into russia or china. we are still america, were just an america where old people get to see the doctor, and get their prescriptions. turns out it's not the end of
freedom. at the time with the johnson administration was actually most worried about, what serious critics and not just demagogues we're worried about, was there would be a flood of new patients into americas hospitals, because old people, who previously could not afford to see doctor, now they would have health insurance coverage. they would be able to afford to see a doctor. so there are these worries that this new tie, this new flood of elderly patients suddenly accessing health services would swamp the nation's hospitals. that was the sort of concern about the implementation of medicare, and in the end, that fear did not really materialize either. but the worry that it might, and the worry that all the other things it would take to implement that new big, change made lbj, and the johnson administration. get a bunch of free time before the program actually started. as i, said lbj sign the medicare, bill july 1965, but he gave the country until july
1966, before medicare would actually go into effect. so we basically gave the country, gave his administration a year. to get it rolled out. we've got a year. ready steady go. funny thing though, more than halfway through that year long wind up, more than halfway through that sort of yearlong on ramp. the lbj had given himself to get medicare implemented. nine months in fact into that year, that he had given the administration and the country to prepare for, the johnson administration suddenly realized, that what johnson had signed into law in the summer of 1965, the medicare bill, and what johnson had signed into law the summer of 1964, the civil rights bill. they actually had something important to say to each other. which was maybe going to be a big problem in terms of implementing medicare. i mean thanks to medicare every
single old person in america, was about having medical bills paid for by this new federal program. medicare was about to start a huge, huge news stream of federal government funding in the hospitals all over the country. but, at that time. all over the south. hospitals had scoffed at the civil rights act from 1964. hospitals have basically considered the selves immune from that kind of federal governmental. -ing and hospitals all over the south were absolutely positively rigidly segregated. there were literally thousands of whites only hospitals, across the south. and the johnson administration came up with this revelation during that year that they had given themselves to rule out medicare. he signed in july 1965. it was due to go to an effect on july 1966, but in march 1966, just four months before medicare is due to start, it's due to go into practice. the johnson administration sent
out a polite but firm letter, to hospitals throughout the country, making clear to, them that if they wanted to participate in this new medicare program. if they wanted to qualify to get any money under this huge new program, ensuring every old person in america, they could not discriminate on the basis of race at their facilities. . that's not going to be a problem right? everybody that's not gonna be a big deal is? it nobody's gonna have any objection to that. no real issue. the letter went out in march 1966. the program was supposed to be implemented july 1st that same year. by may 1966, the new york times, reporting on the front page, an emergency meeting that had been convened, by the johnson administration, convened at the white house, to get the hospitals to move it. or to prepare for the consequences, if they did not. this is from the new york times,
may 26, 1966 quote, top officials of state hospitals so caa shuns in 20 states, were called in today for an emergency conference down the hall, from health secretary john gardner's office, although the meeting was closed, h e hamilton, president of the louisiana hospitals association, told reporters afterward with the greatest problem is. he said quote, it's the requirement that negroes and whites would be permitted to share the same hospital rooms. and i don't know what the hospitals will do. but i hear some of them don't see how they can comply with that. you know what? turns out they could comply with that. that was late may 1966. by the following month, june 1966. the new york times was still estimating that 2000 whites only hospitals in the american south, would not be in compliance with the civil rights law. so they won't be certified to participate in the medicare program. by the month after that, by
july, when medicare went into effect, those hospitals had dug deep and found it within themselves, to start complying with the civil rights act, after all. around the 50th anniversary of medicare, in 2015. there was some renewed attention to that quiet but definitive way president chance in and his health secretary head desegregate it american hospitals, basically overnight. there are headlines like this one in the washington post. the massive rural medicare played in racial integration. in this one in u.s.. news desegregation, the hidden legacy of medicare. i only point out that news coverage from 2015, to say, we didn't have to be there yourself in 1964 and, five to see this happen firsthand. this is not like a secret history that nobody knows about. this is what we did as a country, in our modern history. but you never know it, from the born yesterday commentary in
response to president biden's actions today. today president biden announced a muscular new approach by the federal government, to contend with the delta variant, the coronavirus, to try to finally wrench this pandemic to the ground in defeat it. the immediate course from republican governors, and republican members of congress, in right-wing commentators all across the country was, he can't do that. he can't tell private entities would to do. really? why does your car have a seatbelt? maybe the company that major, car that private entity didn't want to put in seatbelts. but nevertheless. your car has a seat. but why is that? why is the ground beef you brought for dinner tonight, government inspected? meat producers do, in the private sector, i have every incentive to only produce meat that people, like and doesn't make anybody sick right? we don't need the government
sticking its nose in and telling you whether it's actually cow you're eating, and not road kill. why is there are government inspection of that? privately produced product? this is a link and pin coupling system. this used to be the industry standard for how you would linked railway cars together. and for whatever reason, this is what real world companies like. this is what they built. for their cars. even though break man, not infrequently got their fingers or even their hands ripped off when they were trying to operate this stupid system. for tying rail cars together. the companies like that. this is what they used. it's what they've been using for decades. why would they change? it would be expensive to have to do it any other way. , until 1893. when the federal government banned those types of coupling 's. and forced railroad companies to use something that wouldn't rip off the hands of their employees. that's 1893. the safety appliance act.
today president biden announced that the occupational safety and health association, osha, part of the really big department, will issue new rules for all employers in the united states, they have 100 or more employees, the rule, say that employees have to either be vaccinated against covid-19, or if they're, not they have to face mandatory covid, testing every week on the job. when president biden announce that today, it was a plane chant one note chorus from republican politicians, coast to coast. president biden can't do that. only a dictator could so companies to do something like that. behold, president richard nixon, in december 1970, signing into law. the creation of the agency that was built and established in this country to do exactly that, to do exactly what president biden is employing him to do as of tonight. >> we see a bill that represents in its culmination,
the american system at its best. democrats, republicans, the house, the senate. the white house, business labor, all cooperating on a common goal. the saving of lives. the avoiding of injuries. making the places of work for 55 million americans, safer, and more pleasant places. this is certainly a great goal. >> president biden today is in fact, putting the muscle of the federal government and his authority as president, behinds trying to make our national offense against covid, more intense. more thorough. more rational. less porous. less helter-skelter, and regionally divided. yes, he is using the huge leverage of the medicare and medicaid funding, to tell health providers, that if you get medicare communicate
funding at your hospital your health facilities, your staff must be vaccinated. and the course on the right was instant. that's controversial. even the commentary and the press on. this that's a very controversial thing to do. some staff will want to be vaccinated. yes that's true. you think that's less controversial or less than a reach than lbj using medicare to forcibly disaggregate 2000 whites only hospitals in the south, overnight? do you think this is some sort of unprecedented thing that president biden is doing? that hospitals and health facilities order, that staff have to be vaccinated, that builds on what he already ordered several months ago in terms of nursing home staff. nursing homes they get federal funding, and basically all of them do, a condition of that federal funding is that nursing home staff all need to be vaccinated. this is an extension of that. to apply to hospitals and
health facilities. president biden is also using his authority over the federal workforce. to require vaccinations among federal, workers and among federal contractors. but, he can't tell fudge drill contractors how to do business. yes he can. yes he can. the same way he's requiring federal contractors to do and a minimum wage. this is not some soon have power he's assuming this is how the government works. wake up. and yes, he is using osha to require large private employers to vaccinate employees. or test them. educational institutions that he has direct authority over, like schools operated by the defense department. head start programs. early head start programs. he's using his authority over those programs, to ensure that teachers and staff at those programs, will have to be vaccinated to. that said, for the vast majority of schools, the president does not have the authority to directly order something like that. in those cases, recognizing the limits of his authorities, he's instead calling on states to
put some rules in place. get school staff vaccinated, to protect kids. he's calling on states to put those rules in place everywhere. even as he's calling out the red state governors under elected officials. who are trying to build their political features on blocking the covid response at all costs. >> despite america having unprecedented and successful backs a nation program. despite the fact that for almost five months, free vaccines have been available at 80,000 different locations, we still have nearly 80 billion americans, who have failed to get the shot. and make matters worse, there are elected officials, actively working to undermine the fight against covid-19. instead of encouraging people to get vaccinated in the mask up, they're ordering mobile morgues, for the unvaccinated dying from covid in their communities. this is totally unacceptable.
the vast majority of americans are doing the right thing. nearly three quarters of the eligible have gotten at least one shot. but one quarter has not gotten any. that's nearly 80 million americans, not vaccinated. and a country as large as ours, that's 25% minority. that's 25% can cause a lot of damage, and they are. the unvaccinated over crowder hospitals. our over running emergency rooms, intensive care units, leaving no room for someone with a heart attack, or pancreatitis, or cancer. the message to unvaccinated americans is this, what more is there to wait for? what more do you need to see? we have made vaccinations free. safe and convenient. the vaccine is fda approved. over 200 million americans have
gotten at least one shot. we've been patient. but our patience is wearing thin. and refusal has cost all of us, so please do the right thing. we have been patient but our patience is running thin. your refusal has cost all of us. in explaining his remarks today, the president said what makes this incredibly frustrating is that we have the tools to combat covid-19. but a distinct minority of americans, supported by a minority of officials are keeping us from turning the corner. these pandemic politics are making people sick, causing unvaccinated people to die. we cannot allow these actions to stand in the way of protecting the majority of americans who have done their part and you want to get back to life as normal. president biden said basically hitting the reset button, a new no holds barred approach to getting our country to the
vaccination rates we need to stop over filling our hospitals, to stop americans dying each and every day, to get transmission down to the point where we can see the end of this thing. and we can stop deploying active duty military teams to rural hospitals, to bolster their staff that has fallen by the wayside in exhaustion and despair. and the reaction on the right, today and tonight and in much of the beltway press is, oh, presidents can't do stuff like this! that is a born yesterday canard. and a historical head in the sand countered about which president johnson, president nixon, president roosevelt, and benjamin harrison, all of those presidents would like to have a word, with everyone screaming today that biden does not lead the federal government with these authorities. these are absolutely the authorities of the federal government. his choice is that he is going to use them to save lives, get
us past the pandemic that is not quitting. the more substantive question here is not about whether this represents us becoming communists, like reagan said about medicare, right? people are going to talk about this to whatever political advantage they want to try to turn it to. the substantive question is, how is this all going to work? and is this in fact a path to end the pandemic? joining us now is doctor david kessler, the co-chair of president biden's covid advisory board. doctor kessler it is an honor to have you with us tonight. >> it's my pleasure rachel. >> the president today talked about how science needs to lead, explicitly. he gave the american people assurances that on the question of booster shots and on the question of vaccinations for kids under the age of 12, he gave the public assurances today that science will lead, that the doctors will make data based decisions and that will
set government policy. as a senior scientist advising the government, are you in favor of the approach that president biden laid out today? and do you believe that it is enough to put us in a materially different position for ending the pandemic >> i do, rachel. what the president announced today, this meets the moment. this is an unprecedented pandemic. the president has led today. i'm a pediatrician. but listen to what he said. we have been patient. 75% of adults have rolled up their sleeves and they have done the right thing. but there are 80 million who have not. the president is taking the steps to ensure that more people who get vaccinated. it's about one thing and one thing only, saving lives. >> the president had previously announced other approaches to
vaccination, using his leverage over the federal workforce. he had talked about encouraging vaccination among the federal workforce, by either requiring vaccination or allowing people to test out of it. now he is saying that federal workers and indeed federal contractors, they are employees, will have to be vaccinated. was anything we learned from the previous -- in terms of how to implement that sort of thing we'll? it's a vast federal workforce, but it seems like it was on again off again implementation, from agency to agency and sub workforce to sub workforce, over whether the previous role was effective. >> we now know that mandates work. we have seen the impact they have across businesses, universities and hospitals. every institution that has implemented mandates have seen their vaccination rates increase. they work.
that's why the president did what he did today. is that also true in terms of nursing home staff? >> i mentioned that the president had previously used his leverage over federal funding for nursing home facilities, to require nursing homes, essentially, to get all their staff vaccinated. as we have talked about before, unvaccinated staff for the linchpin to explaining so many of the deadly and tragic outbreaks in congregate care and elderly care facilities. did the previous mandate that he announced about nursing homes also create a meaningful uptick in the amount of staffing for those facilities, that is, vaccinated? >> you certainly see that this has increased overtime. if nursing homes. he saw previous deaths with regard to the veterans administration. you saw with the federal workforce. in some ways this is just an arc. no doubt that we are upping the ante, but the stakes are very
high. >> the other thing that the president talked about today, something i feel that has fallen out of the national discussion recently, is testing. he said that he will use the defense production act to increase the supply of rapid at home tests and make them more affordable. he said places like walmart and amazon will begin to supply those tests at costs as soon as next week. can you talk about, from a scientific perspective, about how testing fits into this muscular new approach? how americans in our private lives, particularly if we have access to tests we can buy ourselves at an affordable rate, how we should think about testing in our lives moving forward? >> i can talk just personally. as a pediatrician, as a grandfather. i get a phone call, it's 9:00 at night, my grandchild has a fever. has some symptoms.
you know, kids get runny noses, fevers all the time. but you want to know. you want to know whether this is covid, because there are things you can do. and the fact is, that having at home tests, especially -- i mean, this is especially a big deal, getting a real discount by these companies, that you can order these in home tests. you want to have an in home test. you run it and you could know in 15 or 30 minutes, whether, you know, this is covid or just a typical cold. it's very important. we have to get people the tools. especially when it comes to our kids. we have to create environments that protect them, most important thing to protect them is having communities that are vaccinated. families that are vaccinated. these tests can make a real difference in peoples lives and families lives.
>> dr. kessler one, of the other reasons that testing is so important, and you and i have talked about this, i think we had one of the earliest televised conversations on this topic since the start of the pandemic -- but if you do know that you have covid, early enough, if you can catch it before you become seriously ill enough that you need to be hospitalized, you do have a treatment option. an option that you don't have if you wait until you get sick or later on in the course of the disease. and that is these monoclonal antibody treatments. you and i have talked months ago about how effective they are, about how difficult it has been to ensure a lot of uptake. people, again, need to take those treatments before they are too terribly sick. the president today talked about increasing the pace of monoclonal antibody shipments across the country, topping it by 50%. we have seen demand go up across for the summer, a lot more uptake of these treatments. how do you think that part of
the pandemic response is going? and how hopeful do you feel about those treatments? >> i'm very hopeful about those treatments. those treatments work. the fact that july 1st we are shipping about 10,000 of those regiments a week. we increased that dramatically to more than 100,000 and we are committed to sending out 150,000 a week. so a big uptake. obviously, the downside of that is delta is requiring us to use more. we want to get that curve down. if you test positive and you are at risk for hospitalisation, if you are at higher risk, you should get monoclonal antibodies. >> dr. david kessler, co-chair of president biden's coat covid advisory board. thank you for your clarity and your time with us. it's an honor. >> my pleasure, rachel. >> much more ahead here tonight, stay with us.
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immigration, they contended that arizona did not have the right to effectively undo federal law. with its own actions at the state level. that was the legal approach they took in tackling that arizona bill. ultimately, for the most part anyway, the supreme court agreed. in 2012 to supreme court struck down most of that radical immigration law in arizona. and they struck it down on the grounds that they undermines existing federal law. now, today, that would appear to be the relevant legal history we all need to remember. to understands the huge news, that the biden justice department announced this afternoon, because they are apparently going to run that same play again. today the justice department to texas, over the texas's new, law that essentially bans abortion, in their lawsuit, doj accuses texas of passing its abortion ban, quote, in open defiance of the constitution. the constitution, under current
president protects a woman's right to get it abortion no matter what state she lives in. their argument here is a direct echo of the same argument the doj used in 2010, to great effect that arizona case. that argument, that legal protections, trying to federally force all by the u.s. constitution, under state law that tries to get around those protections. because the texas abortion ban ignores those federal constitutional protections, mayor garland and the biden justice department now say the court should strike down the texas banned altogether. that is the type of argument they've decided to take. that argument did succeed once in the supreme court. in blocking parts of that nightmarish arizona immigration law. could it work here to? is this the right approach to take. to try to on ban abortion in the state of texas? joining us now is our friend barbara mcquade. she's a former u.s. attorney, she first tipped us off to this parallel history, and we've
been researching it and looking into every. since barb thanks for researching, it being here, today thanks to your help this afternoon. >> my pleasure. i saw this case it was really excited to see. it because regardless of the way this case comes out on the merits, this at least is a victory for the rule of law. because now the justice department can get this statute before a federal judge. >> that's the important thing. and i think not a lot of lawyers don't appreciate. here is that part of the way that texas was able to sneak its abortion ban into law, despite roe v. wade, supposedly protecting any state from banning abortion, is they created a scheme. in their law, that effectively prevented any sort of obvious approach to a lawsuit. who would be sued? who would have standing to sue them? on what grounds should the federal courts take that on? that was the way that the supreme court justice got the law to stand. this takes on that problem directly. >> yes. i think over the past several
days, that you've seen probably many legal analysts, including me. sort of scratching our head saying, man how did they get this case before the court? in fact, the legal director, for right to life of texas said, that this law was written deliberately to stymie judicial review, and so really the only one actor that can do anything about this. the one entity that has the power to sue a state is the justice department. so, mayor garland says he will -- many people have been frustrated with some of his inaction overtime. but this is a big action, and this as we say will at least he upped this case before a court. with this makeup of the court might do. to that long-standing precedent of roe v. wade, on the merits, is a different question. but at the very least, we can proceed, and i think it's very likely we might even say a state injunction that will put this law kind of on the backburner, until it can be briefed and argued in court. and at least get some temporary
relief for abortion seekers in those who provide it in texas. >> that's the next part of this that i was going to ask you about. obviously the supreme court has looming on its docket, that mississippi case, where by the conservative majority on the, court appears to be ready, to overturn roe v. wade on the merits, but that would likely be a decision that would be getting maybe next summer. in terms of the courts term. the issue with this texas, ban is they've allowed it to go into effect, since last week. so abortion is already effectively banned in texas. the type of relief that attorney general garland in the justice department are asking for, here with a, the kind of stay there asking, for that kind of pace they like the courts to look at this in, do you think this is something that could provide immediate relief? how quickly might the texas lobby put on hold? and effectively reinstate abortion rights in texas? >> i think it could happen very
quickly. one of the things the justice department did here is take advantage of a local rule that allows courts to, parties to identify cases as companion cases, to a prior case. so what they did here, is made this a companion case. to the case the original challenge to this texas statute. it was signed to judge robert pittman. he was a lawyer in the justice department. a former u.s. attorney. it is now a federal judge. he had put that on a fast track, when that lawsuit was filed in july. you may recall, he scheduled a hearing for the last days of august. to make a decision on this case. so he could decide whether to grant injunctive relief, when the fifth circuit swooped in, and put his stay on his decision, allowing the law to go forward. i think now the ball is back in the court of judge pittman, he will look at this and decide appropriately i think. because there is contrary case law, it's very clear, there's a strong likelihood of success on the merits, and also a strong likelihood of irreparable harm, for that reason, regardless of how this case comes out of the,
merits i think it will be the, stay i think it will be done very quickly, and i think it will restore abortion lights to people of texas, at least until the supreme court can surprise the court case this term. >> again, making the important point, judge pittman could make that decision basically very quickly, now that these initial filings are in. barbara, it's great to see you. thank you for helping us understand. >> thank you rachel my pleasure. >> okay we, have more heads a night, stay with us. okay we, have more heads night, stay with us. my retirement plan with voya keeps me moving forward... even after paying for this. love you, sweetheart they guide me with achievable steps that give me confidence. this is my granddaughter...she's cute like her grandpa. voya doesn't just help me get to retirement... ...they're with me all the way through it. come on, grandpa! later. got grandpa things to do. aw, grandpas are the best! well planned. well invested. well protected. voya. be confident to and through retirement. you booked a spacious vrbo summer home, with a pool big enough for the most epic cannon balls.
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but yesterday, there was first to report, that the fencing is about to go back up. and that is because, trump supporters are planning to rally at the capitol, nine days from. now next saturday. in a rally that is being held explicitly in support of the people who attacked the capital the first time, continually six. the organizers say it will be a peaceful demonstration. but given how their last rally at the capitol when in january, there's obviously plenty of concern. speaker pelosi, the senate leaders chuck schumer and mitch mcconnell, the lead republican in the house kevin mccarthy, they are all reportedly going to be briefed about security surrounding the rally. on monday. the rank and file police officers will be in charge of securing the capital that. day they have all had the leave canceled for that day. they will get their security briefing tomorrow. but there's at least one meter we know of, who has already been briefed on the security preparations for that event. that's because she has a key role here. congresswoman zoloft man, is the chair of the administration
committee. in congress. which sounds like a bureaucratic thing, the technical thing you need to know about that committee. in this instance. is that it oversees house security. and as such. as chairman of that committee, chairwoman, she was briefed yesterday by the capitol police chief. congressman also sits on the house committee that's investigating the january 6th attack. last month the committee sent document requests to a different government agencies, including the national archives. as well as 35 different social media and telecom companies. asking for records, related to the january 6th attack. the deadline for those requests, deadline for response to those requests was actually today. so, what if anything to the committee received? and what should we know about the preparations for this next trump supporter rally at the capitol. that among other things that's causing the dreaded fans to go backup. joining us now is california congresswoman joe. left his chair of the administrative committee.
she's a member of the select committee. congressman it's welcome to have you here today thank so much taking the time thank you, rachel. >> what should the american people understand about the preparations for that rally next weekend? obviously it's better to be safe than sorry, it's better to prepare for something to be worse than it ultimately ends up being? but how are you thinking about it and how confident are you in the preparations? >> i got briefed, as you mentioned, and we have new leadership in the capital police as well as the house sergeant at arms. they had a lot of questions and clearly there is a better plan, more organization for this event than was the case in january. we may get a little more information in the next day or two. as you mentioned, the speaker and the minority leader will be getting information as well. it is a saturday.
house will not be in session, so others that difference. there is some chatter out in the ether. some people promising violence. to me it is astonishing that people who attacked the capitol police. we saw the video, just brutal attacks name some of these officers, trying to kill mike pence and members of congress. and some people are calling these people political prisoners? i mean, come on. so this is a weird view of what is going on. but we hope to be very prepared and the security preparations are made by the professionals, not my by my committee but i wanted to be fully briefed. >> obviously there is a through line between the january 6th attack and this forthcoming
event next weekend. literally, that event is being held to celebrate the people who attacked the capitol and to lionized them, as you described. by that comes as your investigation, the select committee investigation of january 6th, is hitting a crucial phase. what can you tell us about the requests from information that have been out for the committee. i know today was the deadline to receive a lot of information from government and companies, records related to that attack. >> i talked to the staff a few hours ago. and quite a bit of information has come in. and it is still coming in. the deadline extends to, i think, midnight tonight. so i can't really tell you what has come in except that there is a great amount of material. and we will be learning more tomorrow about what is in it. and the staff may have an announcement, later this evening. i don't know for sure. but it is clear that agencies
responded. >> the house republican leader, kevin mccarthy, had a striking response to the request to top telecom companies in particular, asking them to retain records, including records related to members of congress who participated in the rally that participated preceded the attack on the capital. he basically threaten the companies, saying that if they complied with these requests, they would lose their ability to operate in the united states. and when republicans were in the majority they would not forget companies that comply with this request for information. i have to ask what you make of that. i think anybody else telling companies not to respond to congressional inquiries would be considered attempting to tamper with that investigation. i don't know if that designation applies to the republican leader here. but i want to get your reaction to that. >> i was astonished, frankly,
by his statements. number one, there is no basis in law for it. number two, as you point out, eighties a felony to obstruct a congressional investigation, 1505 of the usc. whether he has a defense or not, i don't know. sometimes there is a speech or debate clause by the doesn't protect against criminal activity. the real point is, what is he hiding? what is he trying to keep the proof from coming out? i think the leaders of our country, and kevin is one of them, should be stepping forward and trying to get to the bottom of everything that led up to january 6th. people who are not doing that are a mystery to me. unless they have participated. i don't know. i can't imagine what his reason for that is. if there is a benign reason for these statements. >> california congresswoman zoe
lofgren, chair of the house administration committee, member of the january 6th select committee. it's nice to have you here with us, thanks for helping us understand. >> thanks rachel. >> we will be right back, stay with us. with us. ♪ breeze drifting on by you know how i feel ♪ [man: coughing] ♪ it's a new dawn, it's a new day... ♪ no matter how you got copd it's time to make a stand. ♪ ...and i'm feelin' good ♪ start a new day with trelegy. no once-daily copd medicine has the power to treat copd in as many ways as trelegy. with three medicines in one inhaler, trelegy helps people breathe easier and improves lung function. it also helps prevent future flare-ups. trelegy won't replace a rescue inhaler for sudden breathing problems. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure before taking it. do not take trelegy more than prescribed. trelegy may increase your risk of thrush, pneumonia, and osteoporosis. call your doctor if worsened breathing, chest pain,
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