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♪ because there ain't no doubt i love this land ♪ ♪ god bless the usa ♪ >> put away the fine fine plus , where the lincoln project to take us off the air tonight. that is our broadcast for this tuesday evening, it comes with our thanks for being here with us. on behalf of all of our colleagues at the network of nbc news, goodnight. thanks to your home for joining us this. our rachel is off tonight she will be back tomorrow. it's been a day of hour by hour dramatic developments in washington, not just in the halls of congress outside those homes. out on the street. 9:30 this morning in washington d.c. capital police saw this, and illegally parked suv in front of the supreme court. a chevy tahoe sitting definitely where it was not allowed to be. as the capital police
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investigated, they did a realtime narrative of what was happening from their twitter count. 9:51 am, quote we are investigating a suspicious vehicle in front of the supreme court. please stay away from the area. ten minutes later they announced, all the streets have been closed around the area. 10:40 am, more than an hour after seeing the car quote, we are still trying to talk to the driver, please continue to avoid the area. everything is very close together, in this part of washington d.c.. here you can see the police activity this morning. that is the side of the supreme court building, on the right. that's the united states capitol at the end of the street. all of this, is considered part of the larger capitol complex. just before 11:00, according to a new york times congressional report, of the capitol police alerted people, in the capital complex, that they were quote, preparing to disrupt a suspicious vehicle, in front of the u.s. supreme court building. a loud bang may be heard in the area. there's no cause for alarm. and no action needs to be taken by congressional staff.
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and quote. and then at 11 am, the capitol police reported that they had quote extracted the man from the suv. and quote. and he was in custody. what we learned later from a capitol police statement, was when they initially approached the vehicle and trying to talk to the man inside, quote the suspected appeared to be frustrated, refused to talk to our officers and said, the time for talking is done. capitol police crisis negotiation officers tried apparently for the next hour, to speak with the man. but he refused. at which point a capitol police swat team moved in. and we've actually got tape of that moment, take a look at. it there's one or two loud bangs, a projectile of some store is lobbed near the vehicle. then you see the driver's door open, and what appears to be smoke billowing out. nbc news reports that police deployed a flash playing to force the driver out of the vehicle, you can see police move in, and they take the man down, one minute later the police have the man in custody, they lead him away, capitol police say they did not find any weapons or explosives in
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the vehicle. they have identified the man's 55 year old dale paul melvin, of kimble michigan. they said that he had also come to the capital complex in august. and quote made concerning statements, but no further details about that august incident. so you don't really know anything more about this guy or what he was doing outside the supreme court today. but it came less than two months after a north carolina man, parts of pick up truck outside of the library of congress. right next door. another building in the capital complex, across the street from the capitol in the supreme court. that man threatened to detonate a bomb unless he was allowed to talk to president biden. he livestreamed the five hour standoff on facebook. his livestream ramblings included his support for president trump, and his belief that various democrats should step down. he turned out not to have a bomb in the end. again, we don't know if today's incident was anyone like that one in august, we don't know what kind of concerning statements he made when he
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visited the capitol complex in august. today apparently he refused to say anything at all. but two of these kinds of events, in the space of less than two months is obviously not a pattern we want to see continue. so we'll keep an eye on that situation and see what more we learn. meanwhile, inside the capitol, congress is in the midst of various standoffs of its own. the u.s. is now 13 days away from defaulting on instead applications, roughly the equivalent of a government failing to pay its credit card bill. and if the u.s. fails to pay its credit card bill, the economic consequences could be dire. we don't know exactly what would happen, because the united states has never actually done this before, but repercussions could in likely would include higher mortgage than interest rates, and a downgrading of the country's drug credit rating which would have massive global economic ripple effects. the treasury secretary janet yellen said today if congress doesn't raise was the debt ceiling, by october 18, it could trigger a recession. so why is congress not raising the debt ceiling? remember this is money, that
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congress has already spent, the only question is whether we're good for, and now the bill is coming to. republicans and democrats in the senate all say that it's essential to raise the debt ceiling, because of the consequences of not doing so, being so dire. but, republicans say, the democrats have to raise it on their own, without any republican votes, and the democrats have said fine we've got 50, votes will do it on her own. but then when they started to vote, when they started the voting process, senate republicans have filibustered it. they block democrats from even voting on the debt limit. in other words, the republican position on the debt ceiling is, it must be raised, you must raise it alone, we won't let you raise it alone. why are republicans doing this? senate republican leader mitch mcconnell has made no demands, this is not a case in which republicans are demanding the democrats to do something or give something in exchange for republican votes. perhaps republicans just want to create chaos.
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there's certainly good at it, or it could be that they're trying to force the democrats to raise the debt ceiling, in a draw now byzantine way, that requires democrats to put a specific dollar figure, on the government's borrowing capacity. think about this for a second. this way republicans can run ads in 2022 midterm election, quoting some big sounding debt number. that all the democrats voted in favor of. which is, something i guess. force the democrats to save the country from an economic catastrophe than blame them for. in any case, senate democratic leader chuck schumer is setting up a vote tomorrow afternoon on the debt ceiling. it's not entirely clear what plan b is, when republicans will inevitably block that vote. nbc news reports today that democrats are considering creating a special narrow carve out in the filibuster rules. to make the filibuster, no longer applicable to votes on the debt ceiling, in the same way there is no more filibuster for a judicial nominations.
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one reporter as president biden this evening about such a carve out for the debt ceiling, biden called it quote, a real possibility, of course lots of democrats have been trying to change the filibuster rules for other things the sheer, especially for voting rights legislation, that's being blocked by republicans, in the senate. democratic senators joe manchin and kyrsten sinema, have been implacably opposed to such changes. if, if they can be convinced, these, two to make an exception for the debt ceiling, can they maybe be convinced to make exceptions for other things to? and by the, way well i have them on the screen, speaking of joe manchin on the left, christian cinema on the right, they continue to be the holdouts and passing biden's build back better plan. the education health care and climate legislation, that he and most of the democrats in congress have tainted about three and a half trillion dollars. joe manchin says he doesn't want to spend more than 100 and half trillion dollars. even though the biden administration insists that everything in the, plan would be paid for through taxes, rather than increasing the debt,
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like republican tax cuts to. nbc news reports that on a call with members of the congressional progressive caucus, president biden says he believes he can negotiate senators manchin and sinema, up to somewhere in the range of 1.9 to 2.2 trillion dollars, the progressive caucus members reportedly pushback, they made clear that they think they need more than that to cover the priorities that are in the actual legislation, but ultimately, according to a source, they told the president they would support whatever top line number he could get to. this is a grudge sergeant summed it up in the washington post today, quote, manchin isn't a mars deal not detailing how much spending they can except, or what they want sacrificed from the reconciliation bill. meanwhile progressives are signaling a willingness to make sacrifices to win manchin and sinema, and talking pragmatically about how to accomplish this, without even knowing what that will take. tell me who the real realist in pragmatists are in this scenario again. it's unclear which priorities
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slowing the planets warming, tax reform to rebalance are out of whack political economy, investments in childcare, health care and paid leave, to empower millions of struggling people, economically, will remain, or at what level of ambition. manchin and sinema have imposed a level of extraction, and generality on this debate, that is made real argument over concrete trade-offs much harder. progressives insist the failure to deal with all of those challenges, poses more of a threat to our future, than higher spending. and high-end taxation do. but we cannot debate this because we don't really know which challenges manchin and sinema c's postpone-able, for the foreseeable future. and. which is why it was striking, to hear senator joe manchin, say this today. >> we've been talking about, everybody's talking, they're still negotiations. i've been very vocal, i've been very transparent. i was talking about a price, of
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what needs to be done. >> everyone's talking about a price. let's talk about when needs to be done. sounds really sensible, it's borderline shocking, to hear joe manchin say that. because he is the one who has been so fixated on the price of the bill. and a number above which he will not go. even as he rose refused to say publicly was specifically in the bill he wants to jettison to get to that number. and so to the great frustration of all the other democrats on capitol hill, they are the ones being tasked with figuring out what should be caught in order to get to the arbitrary number that joe manchin and kyrsten sinema arm purely insisting. >> when it comes to the policies in the bill, what are some areas that you are personally comfortable with? >> that's like saying pick your favorite child, these are good programs, i support the bill in its entirety. in the notion that we have to choose between child tax credit,
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take care for children, or family we've, is an impossible choice, when you consider working families face. >> this is what democrats in washington are struggling with the right, now what's the best way to shrink the presidents agenda, to a size that will get these two hold out democratic senators on board. do you shrink the entire plan? funding all the same programs but at a lower rate? do you cut certain investments entirely so you can fully fund a smaller number priorities? do you lower the total cost by shortening the amount of time that the programs are funded, four and hope they become so popular, than a congress a few years down the road will renew them? these are the questions i've got about, this and i have just the person to ask. joining us now is washington congresswoman, chair of the congressional caucus. congresswoman, thank you for being with us. i don't know, that was the best effort that we could get to and conveying what's been going on a congress, but you're actually in those. meetings are in the room where i happens. how much of what i just told
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the defense is accurate? >> ali, it's good to see you. thanks for having me on. there's some things that are accurate, in that we are trying to get to a set of priorities, that will be transformational, that will change peoples lives, that will take on climate change, that will provide pay leave, 12 weeks of paid leave to people, that will provide childcare, pre-k, community college, health care, medicare expansion. immigration, take on the immigration issues, these are our priorities in the congressional progressive caucus, that are in the presidents build back agenda. this is actually the presidents agenda, to be clear. but what is true, is that we have to get 50 senators on board, we have 96% of democrats in the house and senate on board. but we don't have 4%, and our margins are so thin, that we have to get every single person on board, so we are in the negotiation process, we thought that 3.5 was actually the
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compromise negotiation position, and it came from these priorities, it was not a number that was picked out of the air, but at the end of the day, what we're thinking about is, if we have to trim, a little. and i'm seeing a little. then what we would like to do, is have our priorities represented, in those are childcare, really the care economy, it's medicare expansion, immigration, it's housing, in climate change. those five priorities, that we need to include, but perhaps for shorter number of years. because i don't think we can choose between childcare and climate change. i don't think we can choose between pre-k and housing. these are all essential priorities, and that's the process we're in right now. let's see where this goes, i will say that we are pushing to make sure that we think about it from the perspective of priorities, but at the end of the day when you talk about the
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number, let's be, clear this is all paid for, by taxes on the wealthiest corporations, and wealthiest individuals, so it does not add to the deficit. but it does make transformational investments in peoples lives. >> that's really the way to look at, this right. any government spending has to be looked, at what's the return on the investments, i prefer that we talk about these priorities, then we talk about the numbers. we do have reporting that the president said that he could get the hold outs, somewhere between 1.9 in 2.2 trillion, and we have reporting that you have said you might be able to manage 2.5 to 2.9 trillion. notwithstanding the fact that neither of us want to talk about numbers. is there accuracy in that reporting? well all i can say is that we are thinking that it's really different. let's just say that let's resettle on 2.9 trillion. it is going to be a different conversation. if that 2.9 trillion includes our priorities versus doesn't.
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it is a different conversation if we are saying we are going to means test a whole bunch of this, which we are opposed to. and put income caps that prevents school teachers, in seattle, from being able to get childcare, and qualify for that benefit. so we have to look at the details. and that is why we don't want to settle on the number. because it is really dependent on how we struggle, and how we implement. >> right, so 2.5 to 2.9 could be a completely different thing. we just put up a screen that talked about those list of priorities. on those priorities we have a list of what they could pay, but they could cost. you are underscoring the fact that there is less to negotiate on climate, less on housing, less on childcare, less on medicaid expansion. these are major priorities, so how you form whatever number you get to, is important. >> that is right. and we still think that the 3.5 number was the number that we thought was negotiated. so as close as we can get to that number, recognizing we
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have to get all 50 senators onboard. >> so i want to just go a little further, with those priorities that you've got. and the concept of return of invested. you're calling it transformational, the way i look at it because i'm a business reporter, if you put $1 into the economy, you get more than $1 back. climate change is just one of those examples. the gross cost of the 3.5 trillion dollar plan, 1.5% of u.s. gdp over the next ten years. the net cost of failing to hit the paris climate agreement benchmarks, 8.6% of additional gdp in perpetuity by the year 2100. little bits of math like that become very compelling in this discussion. >> that's right allie, and that is such a beautiful example of what we are calling these investments in the future. we are going to pay far more, not just in terms of dollars, but in terms of opportunity, in terms of lives love, in terms of lack of security for our country, and for the world if
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we do not take on climate change in reality. not the president is going to go to cop twenty six in just a couple of weeks. and he needs to be able to say that the united states is going to lead on the issue of climate change. we are going to cut carbon admission, and in order to do that we need to have clean electricity performance standards in here. we have tax credit. clean energy tax credits. that is sort of prepared in the stick. and if we do all of that, it will bring us enormous dollars back down the road, your concept of investment from a business perspective. but also, hello, it will save the planet. so we have to do this. and we have to show leadership. >> yes an economic society we actually have a climate that's burning out of control. congresswoman it's good to talk to you, thank you for giving us a peek into what's actually going on. congresswoman pramila jayapal, is the chair of the progressive caucus. a lot more to get to tonight, including that explosive whistleblower on facebook. we are going to talk to one of the smartest thinkers i know of
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senator who in my opinion has been a leak of her own, trying to really understand that a granular level what's impact social media is having on our world and our politics. and what our politics may have to do to contend with. it to put it in context, senator amy klobuchar introduce our cosponsor nearly the double amount of -- of any of our competitors in the 2020 democratic primary. the bills covered all sorts of issues, like data collection, privacy, monopolies. and maybe most significantly -- be they are russian troll or your crazy aunt to spread completely and other bs about democracy on social media. and even pay to amplify that bs, which it turns out causes all kinds of havoc. >> no one has said yet that they will include issue acts. and that is what we just heard from mr. stretch 90% of our
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russian paid political ads, where issue ads. and as you know, somehow, the radio station in minnesota was able to figure out what's an issue at is under the federal guidelines. and i would just hope that your companies can do that. and i just want to be clear, as we work to pass this law, so that we have the same rules in place to disclose political ads, and issue ads. as we do for tv and radios. as well as disclaimers that you are going to take early action as soon as june, i heard. before this election so that people can view these ads including issue ads, is that correct? we have seen these political ads that keep creeping through, despite your effort to police them on your own. and this is why i would so badly like to pass the on this act, i went on in three battleground states ballots mark for donald trump had been discarded. pull, will vote of fraud only increase closer to november. so stated in three
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battlegrounds, paid ads, ballots mark for donald trump had been discarded. this claim between september 29th and october 7th. had up to 200,000 impressions, does this add violate facebook's policy? >> i don't know if the top of my head if that specific ad violates our policy. i'd be apple, very happy to follow up on. that >> would you commit to a policy where actual peoples i would review these ads, instead of just being hit with algorithm reviews. >> -- >> it's just really yes or no or i don't know >> senator i don't know. >> we look back now at the years of hearings with senator amy klobuchar, has played a part on social media and facebook. and you notice two things. one, the problems created by these under regulated social media companies are evolving, while our legislation is not. there are legislation that shouldn't have been in 2016.
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and you notice that facebook and other big social media are running out of goodwill who. the promise change. they've sat on their hands too many times. which is why it was so striking today when a whistle blower who used to work at facebook, in the company's civic integrity division, spoke with the consumer protective subcommittee about the biggest political moment we had in this country since the election. the insurrection on january six, and the role that facebook played in. >> around 60 minute, you said that facebook implemented safeguards to reduce misinformation or head of the 2020 election. but turned off those safeguards right after the election. and you know that the insurrection occurred january 6th. do you think that facebook turned off the safeguard because they were costing the company money? or because it was reducing profit? >> facebook has been emphasizing a false choice. they said the safeguards that were in place before the election implicated free speech. the choices that were happening on the platform were really
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about how reactive and twitchy was the platform. like how viral was the platform. and facebook changed those safety defaults in the run up to the election because they knew they were dangerous. and because they wanted that growth back, they wanted the acceleration of the platform back after the election. they return to the original defaults. and the fact that they had to break the glass on january 6th, and turn them back on, i think that's deeply problematic. >> so after so many years of getting the run around from the tech companies, what should the federal government be doing here to make them do the right thing? joining us now is senator amy klobuchar. of -- good to see you again thanks for joining us. tonight i have to wonder, you get so granular -- pleasure to have you here. you get so granular in your discussion and i'm grateful that you do. but if you pull back, the issue is in hearing after hearing, there is an issue with tech companies with large, not just
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facebook, and the fact that they are helpful in some places. and handing in some places. but they are really dangerous. and roger back to me was asking whether or not there should be something like the fda, for technology in america. something that says, this is dangerous. this is unsafe. and we need to figure out a way to regulate it. >> i am hoping that we broke the trend today. the trend is hearing maybe we get great information, maybe the senator is asking probing questions for the house senator, and nothing happens. because every coin u-turn is a lobbyist. more and more people that are paid for by tech, the come up to the senator and show up at fund-raisers and big surprise nothing has gotten done. i think this witness today, francis hocus is earning, i think she is going to be a catalyst for change. maybe people just had a step back saying that this is my kids, this is my grandkids they
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literally as we found out are putting profits in front of people that it's a home profit model. collecting data on you. targeting you with ads. and lo and behold, more suicidal thoughts on behalf of these young girls. targeting really bad information when it comes to eating disorders. to kids. and i think that this is the moment that we needed, because what can we do privacy legislation a complete change in our economy in the last decade. no change to federal privacy legislation. we need to do something about our competition policy, that is what i've been advocating for, so these dominant platforms can't decide to put their own products at the top or do things that would exclude competitors from succeeding. at the cost of competition, and finally we have to do something more to protect kids online. and make these algorithms which literally give profits to these companies to make them more transparent.
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i'm makes a lot of sense. it seems to be a bipartisan slam dunk. in the world before the world we live, and you've actually been dealing with this for a long, time while there are actually people you could get on both sides of the aisle into this, why doesn't this have overwhelming majorities in the house in the senate? people who get off the soapbox about whether conservatives are being hidden by uncertain things in social media, and just say these are things that you just outlined, algorithms, privacy, antitrust. these seem to be easy. >> well, they're not easy, and the companies have thrived on the fact that they're not easy. when things are and immediate crisis sometimes, and people are starting to deal with what's happening to our democracy, what's happening to our kids, they make them addicted to these platforms, then maybe they're starting to see this as a crisis. and that will precipitate action. so it twice? one, there is bipartisan support for increasing resources to the agency, for the federal trade commission,
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and for the department of justice antitrust division, senator -- through the senate that will add over 100 million to these agencies. for enforcement. number two, there's bipartisan support as you can see from the work of senator blumenthal, and senator blackburn, and others, and doing stuff to protect kids. there is bipartisan action growing over in the, house with senator lee, in myself, and many others. to finally take on the competition policy, again, that means stopping this exclusionary conduct, where we learned with the app stores, that they're charging certain companies, like spotify, and, 30% of the revenues, this is from apple and google. and finally the privacy, that is been so incredibly frustrating. recently apple said to their customers, okay, will protect your data, and it your choice, 75% chose to protect their data.
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chose to not have their data be spread. we know that there's numbers, that's why the rest of these platforms are not doing. this and i think that has to change. >> there's a facebook post by mark sucker bearing with whom you spoken many times in testimony, he said, the argument that we deliberately push content that makes people angry for profit is deeply illogical, we make money from ads, and advertisers consistently tell, as they don't want their ads, next to harmful or angry content. i don't know any tech company that sets out to build products that make people angry or depressed, the moral business in product incentives all point in the opposite direction. what do you make of that? >> first of all, he was welcome, we'd love to see him, but he was sailing today, the second thing i'd like to say, is that the witness, the whistleblower so well addresses, she said look, they might not have intended to make their profit that way. but the metrics, they put everything in these metrics, and they base on the most
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heated and polarized content. negative content as you know, and that is what got out, and that have not done enough to police. at the whistleblower, who works within the company, has suggested something like only ten to 20% at most, of this content gets caught. she talked about the fact that the violent content, they don't have enough and i asked in the original question that you played, humanized, people looking at this, yet this is an over trillion dollar company alley, and they don't have enough people moderating this content, and looking at this content. and so, he may not have intended, this but what he intended to do he has done, and that makes tons of money, to the tune of $50 for every user per quarter. that's the stats they just put out. on you ali. 50 bucks a quarter, that's what they're making by getting your data. >> that last point you made is interesting, it's a very low tech problem, they don't have enough humanize to curate this stuff. senator always good to talk to. you thank you for being with us tonight. senator amy klobuchar
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this is the front page of the anchorage daily news today. take a look at the right column. hospitals in flux with near record patient numbers. quote alaska's covid-19 hospitalizations approach to record territory on monday. just days after the state announcement crisis tenders of carer activated, for 20 health care facilities, as the worst surge of the pandemic drags, on and then there's this associated press reporting right below it. doctors grow frustrated with covid-19 denial misinformation. that's the front page of the anchorage daily news today, this is still the situation in several parts of the country. the crisis in alaska, where 20 hospitals are now rationing care, that's what crisis of care, means it's a horrifying snapshot of this multi-state trend. communities in idaho, montana, are going through the same thing. it's a pattern.
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people make the allegedly, personal choice to remain unvaccinated, despite the wealth of information about the safety and efficacy of the shots. and despite the 700,000 people who died from this virus, millions are making this allegedly personal choice, to not listen. they get sick, they take up, beds doctors and resources needed to treat cancer and heart patients. and people who need attention after an accident, and then there's no room left for those other patients, there's no resources left for them. they do not get a choice. they cannot get treatment. this is why it is so important, to take whatever measures possible, to stop the surge of covid cases in this country. months after we've had a vaccine. measures like the biden administration's proposed vaccine mandate. the labor department is working on guidelines to ensure employers who have more than 100 workers, require the vaccine, or be frequently tested for the virus. as the washington post reports today, republicans are girding for battle over biden's new vaccine rule. meaning that top administration
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officials have been working carefully to ensure the proposal is ironclad. it's still unpublished, rule needs to be ironclad, because it leads two dozen republican controlled states are preparing legal challenges already. except that vaccine requirements work. in terms of actually getting employees inoculated. and united airlines, one of the first companies to institute a mandate, more than 98% of u.s. employees, are now vaccinated according to its chief executive. in, new york many schools went from employee vaccination rates in the 70 80% range, when the states mandate was announced a month and a half ago, to more than 95% around the deadline this week. hospitals in california saw similar results. with the biden proposal, said to have an impact, tens of millions of other workers, can't withstand the potential challenges, joining us now is doctor david michaels, he's a former assistant secretary of labor for the occupational
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health administration, osha is of course one of the agencies now tasked with implementing the presidents vaccine rule, in addition to his role as former osha administrator during the obama administration, dr. michaels is currently professor at the george washington university school of public health, dr. michaels, thank you for being with us tonight. i am sort of interested, giving american businesses often fight anything that feels like a regulation. there has been no pushback from the national retail federation, no pushback from the united states chamber of commerce, not even local chambers of commerce which are often in lockstep with state republicans, this seems to be okay with this. >> that's right, i think businesses across the country, are welcoming the opportunity, say to their workers, the federal government is requiring us to do this, the companies that have gone forward, like united airlines have had great success. i think it will be a challenge for a lot of employers, but
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right now employers see vaccinating workers, making sure workers are safe, will help them, it will make sure workers are more comfortable coming to work, it will stop this, pandemic it will help us get back to normalcy. >> those of us who work in big businesses and offices like i work in here at nbc, we see the osha, posters the things that are meant to keep you safe. but we also know that osha, when you are running, it osha today, it's an understaffed place, it's hard, you can't get out and police these, things so we actually have to depend on employers, who are going to carry out both the ministration's mandate, but also undertake on their own, to get this done. >> that's right. most osha standards, ourself and forced. employers, when they hear inner agency is issuing a new regulation, they don't ask how is that regulation going to be, enforce they say how are we going to comply with that regulation. what employers are going to
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start to do, is they will speak first to their attorneys in their hr specialist and hopefully to their workers. and say, how are we going to do this so it works for everyone, i think i'm seeing already happening now. it will certainly happen more. it will have a big effect. it will drive vaccine rates up. it will save a lot of lives. and it's going to help these companies go back to normalcy. >> what's your sense of the challenges that the administration is gearing up for? we have seen reporting, that the government is trying to make this ironclad. what do you know about that? how do you make something like this ironclad? we don't make live in a world with vaccine mandates typically. >> a lot of those republican attorney generals haven't read what president biden is told osha to do. this is not a vaccination requirement, the osha law says, that employers have to provide a safe workplace. they have to make sure that workers can we work in these same condition and they got to work. and so what this requirement is, is it tells employers, look what you need to do is make sure that a hazard does not occur, it's not present in the
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workplace, a hazard is a potentially infectious worker, in so osha will write this telling employers, you can ensure that your workers are vaccinated, or you can say, we will test every week so we know that you're not infectious, or your workers can work at home. there are lots of options. so this is not a vaccine requirement at all. >> it's a hazard mitigation requirement. doctor michaels, thank you for being with. this doctor david michaels is the ocean ministry to during the obama administration, he's currently a professor at george washington school of public health. we appreciate your time tonight. still ahead, we saw a record voting turnout in the 2020 election, the response to that historic achievement, might actually surprise you. that's next. , migh actually surprise you. that's next. that's next. hey google. ♪ ♪ ♪
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to wait, this was the scene outside the white house today, as protesters held a giant voting rights now sign, in a banner that read in all caps, president biden, no more excuses, voting rights now. the protest was organized by the league of women voters of the united states. people for the american, way and the, declaration for american democracy. they saying this little light of mine. and the urge to the president and congress to act on voting rights now. five peaceful protesters were arrested today, they're currently be held in jail. joining us now is virginia kay solomon, the league of women voters, she was a speaker at the rally today, urging action on voting, writes thank you for being with us this evening. i understand there's still people being held in jail tonight, because of the being arrested at this rally. >> some of our colleagues, the ceo of the people for the american way, --
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so, yes and, others are still being held in or awaiting arraignment. >> what do you want to happen? the frustration was clear. there are enough excuses, we've certainly heard all the excuses, what we are witnessing is exactly with the 1965 act was supposed to prevent. stage with a history of discrimination in their voting, not being allowed to discriminate murder there in their voting. but that's where we live in now. >> i think one of the things that we want more than anything, is for president biden to use his voice. to use the power of his voting pulpit, to move the freedom to vote act, and the john lewis voting advancement act forward. he is a master of the senate, being in the senate for more than 30 years. he knows how to use his political will. to make things happen. and right now, we are hearing a lot of promises, but we are not seeing a lot of action. really the truth is, he has the opportunity to have a moment.
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bigger than lbj, he's trying to have an fdr moments. but he can have an fdr moments with infrastructure, and an lbj moment with voting rights. and that's what we want the president to do. deliver on his promise. >> it's become a partisan issue, and that is what senator joe manchin of west virginia is using, as his opposition, the reason for his opposition. he's calling it partisan voting registration, because it has no republican support. i believe -- of our democracy, and for that reason, i will vote against the for the people act. >> it's a circular argument. it's partisan because republicans won't support it. >> here's the thing, senator manchin actually put forward the freedom to vote act, which is an updated version of the for the people act. some key provisions that we hoped are in, there are no longer in, there but the freedom to vote act was actually put forward and approved by senator manchin. he is actually asking to have
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the time to be able to move the republicans and try to see if he can get any by. and in that's why we need president biden even more, to act. because alongside senator manchin, those two, if anybody, have the opportunity to move political will on the republican side. >> it's when it's all our viewers a little bit about what is in the freedom to vote act, the bill includes automatic voter registration, and online voter registration, makes election day a public holiday, and ensures voters have access to at least two weeks of early voting, for federal elections. including two weekends. and ensures every state offers same day registration, there's nothing in this list of things. that any american should have any issue. it's the idea that we're all supposed to vote, why don't we just make it standard. and simple to do so. >> yes. it's amazing, you can go into any mcdonald's throughout this country, and have the same order, and know what to expect. but you cannot do that in any state retry to vote. there are so many differences.
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tongue, the first time we heard, make america great again. again. with president donald trump, in the white house, for four more years, and with god's help, we will make america great again. again. >> we will make america great again, again. that was mike pence at the republican national convention in 2020, it was not clear if by vowing to make america great again again, it was an admission that the trump in -- the first time around. but look at this. we may yet get that clarity. we received this email yesterday, from donald trump's main super pac, announcing that they're undergoing a bit of a re-branding, quote, make america great again, again.
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exclamation point, launches. according to this press release, the presidents favorite super pac, will forever more be known as make america great again, again exclamation point. as it's known in shorthand maga, comma again, exclamation point. if you have not figured out already, the exclamation point is key. after all we know how well that worked out for jab in 2016. please clap. i've got a lot of questions about this, like why, and how. and did i mention why? but frankly the part of history and most struck don is what it's gonna look like on a half. make america great again, again. looks a little cramped. do you simplify? am a j.a.? how do you pronounce that? but gosh. that can't be right. maybe apply some math to the problem. keep the hat where it is, and an exponent to the end. make a character great again, squared. you don't even need to buy a
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new hat, you can just sharpie a little exporter on your own hat. i never thought i'd have to brush up on the roles of exponents, to brush up on politics. it's like being back in middle school math again, again. that does it for us tonight, rachel will be back in the chair tomorrow, thanks for bearing with me for the next two days, it's time for lawrence or donald, who many of you who know has been involved in politics for a long time for all you have seen lawrence, you've never actually witness, the debt ceiling being breach. we've never witnessed not paying your bills. >> me and every american who's ever lived, has never lived to see it happen. prior to now, we've never had reason to believe that we even might see it happen. there would always be stunts and work summoned ship, we always knew, it can't happen. and it could not happen, because, neither one of the parties, were crazy. the trouble is tonight, one democratic senator is actually quoted in the new york times
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saying, the problem with american politics is that one of the parties is crazy. that is provably true. when you're dealing with crazy, you don't know what's going to happen. you never know what's going to happen. >> and the consequences of this one are real, and they are serious, and it will affect people at home and in their pocketbook. i appreciate you're covering it tonight. have yourself a good show tonight lawrence. >> thank you. ali thank you. back in the, day when i was running the staff process for confirmation hearings that the senate finance committee, i once had to deal with a very impatient nominee for secretary of the treasury. confirmation process was actually moving very quickly, but, i kept getting messages from him, asking what was taking so long, and finally someone posted the nominee, whispered in explanation to me, he wants to sign the money. treasury secretary is get to sign their names, to