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good day, everyone. captain kirk has completed his mission. the new shepherd clue executing a successful reentry and landing in texas this morning. he is the oldest person to ever reach space. >> it's unlike anything you'll every experience. >> stand by touch down. >> and the capsule touched down, welcome back, the newest astronauts. >> there is a lot more to come on that there is another boss
positive step with the coronavirus. the focus here is a there is a supply chain nightmare as inflation continues to strike. they are announcing walmart, fedex, and ups will ramp up shipping. joining us now, morgan chesky in texas. the retired marine corps. major general. david fisher who co-wrote three books with william shatner. you're going to have to update those books. some of what we heard from william shatner's conversation just after he exited the
capsule? >> you look down there and it is just there is mother earth and comfort and there is -- is there death, i don't know. is that the way death is, and then it's gone, geez. what is unknown is there is a soft blue. look at the beauty of that. and it's so thin. and you're through it in an instant. you have given me the most profound experience. i'm so i hope that i never recover from this.
>> just imagine, the emotion of that. >> you're absolutely right, before the flight took place, they were looking out the window of the new shepherd capsule and being entranced by the blue orb of earth. over the span of just about 11 minutes you heard that raw emotion, the oldest person to ever travel in space. just a touch down, a soft landing in the west texas desert. he was quick to add that he wishes he could grab hold of this moment and hold on forever.
this was a successful fright by blue or begin. >> there is temporary holds going into effect. at the time we didn't know what they entailed but we heard that when a hold went in because of an engine anomaly he did become concerned. he did worry briefly, but it disipated. they entered outer space. there was imagine kal minutes of
weightlessness before coming back down. >> and why was this so important to william shatner? >> he took us into space with "star trek" in the '60s. and i think that the fact that he has created this new interest, i mean i'm sure more people watched the launch this morning than have watched the launch in probably the last decade. i mean he is an extraordinary man, he always embraced the next technology. when the phone rings for him the answer is always yes. i'm sure very few people have
strapped a motor on their back as he has done, and he has paraglided. when it comes to flying he has pretty much done it all. >> the only person that i can think that is even comparable is senator john glenn. a fighter pilot, hero, one of the oldest. let's talk about what they specioused. give us a sense of how it felt for them and for their reentry. >> thank you, it is good to see you and the rest of the folks here. the experience of a lifetime, a life changing experience.
you will never forget it en in those first few minutes. i think for all of them and the way that william shatner put it, you see the black bs blackness of the sky, i thought it was the most beautiful place i had ever seen. seeing it from space is definitely a different experience. you also think about the fragility of it. not a day goes by that i don't think about my experiences in space. >> and charles boden, that is, that has a big impact on the few of space tourism. amazing visuals and exciting
adventures. what is the impacts on the private efforts. >> if you remember, you made the decision and you decided you would carry out the direction that was aryed at by the bush administration after the loss of columbia that we would transition to space in the private sector. so people that leave this planet, and they go into space, they will probably never go in a government vehicle again. they will go in a space spsh x rocket, and that is the way that the planning went. five or six years behind where we want today be because we could not get the funding from congress at the early years of the administration. i think this is another great day for nasa and the commercial and private partners. >> what are they telling you as
to whether or not this will be affordable. we knee the two seats inside of the capsule. the hope is that the more flights you have the more you can how many more nights they would put into place. the fact that we had a flight back in late july and we had another one reusing some of the very same parts of my rocket is certainly encouraging to see. even just a minority, rather, remains to be scene right now. jeff besos made it clear time
and time again that this is part of building a road into space, making it more accessible for everyone, and i think seeing the reaction from william shatner had that. the first trip that he took today was certainly one. >> he is 90 years old. what do you do after you have done to space? especially if you're captain kirk. >> i think most of us want to go back again. maybe some day there will be a chance for me to go again. he has done pretty incredible nipgs. i'm old enough to remember, i think i was 40 years old when the first "star trek" came on. i think what he will do is tell
the story we try to convey the bu if i of our planet. we're also professionally trained and we have a job to do and it made it us con trait on those things. he went out with the intention of using his abilities to tell stories and convey the experience to people and just that little, you know, those few little moments that you showed on the return so i hope he keeps talking and tells us what he thought about it. maybe he will get to go again. >> is there another chapter or another book? >> i'm sure right now there is
some thoughts about how do i do this again. whatever happens next he wants to be on the forefront of it. we have an opportunity, will i have an opportunity to help them tell the story? i sure hope so. >> thank you so much to all of you. it is such an exciting morning, such an exciting day. of course, the drama from the "star trek" fans. coming up, shots in the arm. you're watching andrea mitchell reports on msnbc. reports on msnbc pure... ...demands a lotion this pure. new gold bond pure moisture lotion. 24-hour hydration. no parabens, dyes, or fragrances. gold bond. champion your skin.
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general saying that boosters from the j and j vaccine recipients could be rolled out by early november. that is not what you expect if the meeting is thursday an friday. so it sounds like a couple weeks of a pause on this. what are you taking from it? >> ye, so a couple thicks. first of all the fda is loading up documents in realtime. they loaded up a statement that said basely for johnson and johnson that the data presented, while it is believable, they could not draw conclusions from it. in short it through a big shadow of doubt on johnson and johnson's attempt to get a booter ready early.
so many of us, including myself, thought that was an easier decision but i think you're pointing out that it is a reduced dose, it is half of the dose that we have been seeing, and it is accompanied with controversy because moderna has not had as much decreasing immunity overtime compared to pfizer that the immunity decreases overtime. i think it will still be a recommendation for boosters. it will take a little more time. the chiropractic dc is going to meet, and it takes new recommendations on how we give it to people in arms. the language.
friday at the committee meeting we know we will have the medical examiner and match data. i think they will be likely recommended to get other vaccines like mrna vaccines because it could be more effective. that guidance takes a little time to write and give to pharmacies and physicians around the country. >> what about the people going rogge? >> je, we have looked into data for moderna. they have 100 micrograms, a full
dose, it showed they had a higher percentage of side effects but not serious adverse educates if is safe, but it will be a half dose. if you're a patient that got a rogue dose, it is okay but it is not more effective. >> in st. paul they're seeing a troubling uptick in infections. what are you seeing? >> officials say it is happening among the unvaccinated. we're talking about those resisting the vaccine and those not eligible. you're is seeing the cases and the hospitalizations go up and
the race has been going up slowly and just recently started accelerating and that why you have state officials really sounding the alarm. listen to what the state health commissioner told me. >> we're definitely in our fourth wave. unfortunately it is primarily the unvaccinated which including everyone under the age of 12. so we're seeing particular concerns among younger kids in this wave. we're very concerned about hospital capacity as well. >> and she quantified that a little more. she says she has seen about 500 cases a day among people under 12. you get a sense of what that impact is on those that are younger. >> and dr. patel, the gda is meeting to talk about pfizer vak
vaccines. so that seems to be on track, which i think is about 28 million kids. >> it is, and i think it is critical that they're giving pediatricians and physicians pharmacy guidance on how they can roll out what pfizer talking about smaller trays and smaller viles. we're hoping that can happen as soon as september 2nd and 3rd. we're hoping we can be ready november 4th and that is good news for children. >> dr. patel, thank you so much. shaq brewster in minnesota. bottlenecks causing shortages across the country. how biden plans to get people what they need by christmas. that is next on msnbcc. is nextc
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today president biden is focusing on ways to solve bottlenecks. it is creating a growing priesz that is becoming a kitchen table issue for many americans. the white house is also keeping a close eye on capitol hill hoping for a legislative victory to help the sliding approval ratings. joining me now is garrett haake,
ashley parker, and elise jordan. welcome all. ashley, talk about what the president can do. he is going to announce walmart, fedex, ups, operating 24/7, but there is a shortage of truckers, a backlog in the ports, this is a global problem. what can he do from the white house as powerful as the white house is? >> there is certain things he can do on the margin. they have brokered a deal to be open 24/7 joining the port of long beach. those are two of the major ports in the united states. he is urging truckers, people to basically to drive more trucks to get these goods once they're unloaded. he is unveiling that fed exand ups are going to increase their
hours. people the recipients of the goods are going to make themselves so more available. there had are ships coming from abroad, he can draw attention to the issue, but there is a number of things that are very much out of his control. >> let's talk about where the president's agenda stands that is also a little out of control in terms of coming up with some resolution between progressives in the house and senate and the two senators as well as moderates in the house. >> if the president is looking for congress for that approval rating boost, he may be looking for quite some time. it's clear that congressional negotiators are not nearly as close as they want to be on the president's two big priorities. and the problem really is in the senate where i think you have to
decouple joe manchin and kirstin sinema. on manchin, progressives and others on the other side of the table know what they want. they don't agree, but they at least know what they want. kirstin sinema is not negotiating with anyone. she is communicating her desires only with the white house and that makes it very difficult to legislate when the white house is trying to leave the process into the hands of the majority leader and the speaker of the house. yesterday there was a conference call where progressive leaders spent the better part of a half about hour, that is a huge problem in mid october if you're trying to move this thing across the finish line or get towards a
place where you can start taking votes by the end of the month. >> they need a vick tore on something. a vote on the bipartisan package, at least, something. they have to show there is something on the table. it is their job to try to translate for these progressives now that they have been told that you have to make a compromise. we have to go smaller with you know, fewer programs, shorter time tables. don't give up on your priorities, but narrow the time frame or whatever to bring the numbers down. the white house has to be the one in the middle. >> yeah, you're looking at virginia's governor race being affected by the white house's in decision and their lack of certainty of over what will happen with these bills and you have a white house trying to
leave it to congress, but if kirstin sinema is not negotiating, how will anything move or happen, so this race is really looking to be the first referendum on biden's first year of the presidepresidency. and so far it is when three points right thousand. a margin of era, and terry mccauliffe is not a sure thing. >> let's talk about the incredibly shrinking president. he was around the world talking about america is back, a very successful g 7. they come back and they face a gridlock in congress.
and according to david, foreign leaders are saying why can't he just lower the boom. >> this is not unique to president bide b. congress has be devilled just able every president, but again, the challenge for president biden is that in some way there's is not that many that he can unilaterally do. he is but he didn't like when they came in to lower the boom. there are issues that he didn't have to deal with during the campaign but something like a supply chain issue. a real challenge that he believes quite correctly that his president that's will rise and fall, this is deeply tied and this is something they feel. it's not even halloween and
they're going online and they're looking for christmas and hanukkah presidents for their kids. no one wants to say santa was held up at the port of china and there was a mix up with going to long beach. this is something they take out, politically, on the president. >> it really is, team is running out as nancy pelosi said in her letter. thank you to all of you. and coming up, fight or flight, rally organizers and trump oilists up against different deadlines for the january 6th committee. we'll talk to adam schiff about criminal contempt charges if they don't show up.
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deadlines are looming around the investigation of the attack on the capital on january 6th. one time trump strategist and white house counsellor steve bannon is expected to show up tomorrow. the king of social media for the white house, the trump white house, they're slated to appear on friday. liz cleany said last night that we'll see if they show up, if they show up, we'll be prepared. joining me now is adam schiff. he was, of course, lead manager in president trump's first impeachment trial. his new book is midnight in
washington. have we almost lost our democracy and still could. it really is a clear call for action and a warning. congratulations on the book if is quite an achievement and it is an inside story, the first we have ever had, from the lead player on the prosecution side of the first trump impeachment. talk to me first about this deadline. criminal contempt citations. >> yes, we're deadly serious about getting to the bottom of everything that happened up to january 6th and there after. and if witnesses don't appear when they're supposed to, we intend to move quickly. >> isn't that a very time consuming process? we saw what happened with the original trump witnesses and how you never even got to talk to some of them until it was long
after the process. >> the process of civil litigation is very lengthy for don mcgahn. it took two years to get his deposition, but we don't have the opportunity to do what we do now. when bill bar was an attorney general there was no way he would prosecute common covering up for trump. it is different now. a different attorney general and we intend to enforce these subpoenas. >> they can still go to court, can't that tie you up in knots? >> i think if someone doesn't comply, or is prosecuted, it will be a powerful mess an that
they better comply. >> what does it mean when we're told several players are engaged with the committee. does that mean communicating or that they're potentially cooperating? or did you expect they're all going to fight it? >> it means their communicating through council. by that is all that that means. part of the problem, and i write about this in the book is for four years people like steve bannon believed they could ignore s subpoenas and the department of justice would not go after them, but if he thinks that's the case now he is going to find out otherwise. >> when you talk about steve bannon, i guess it is a legally debatable notion.
but steve pan nonwas out of the white house long before any of this happened. how does that stand up in court? >> it doesn't stand up, which is why i think he is on perilous grounds. so it won't hold up. >> talk to me about january 6th. you were there, you write about putting on your gas mask. how it felt to be on that house floor. >> it was just awful to be there to hear the windows breaking, to see the kind of beatings that police took and what was particularly, i think heinous for many of us, while there was still blood on the floor, we returned to this chamber and the republicans just picked up where
they left off, still pushing the big lie, still trying to overturn the election. we didn't have visibility on anything outside. there is people that believe the big lie. one of the things that i write about in the book is so many of my republican colleagues understand that it is a big lie. they are too scared to say it. if we can't count on elections to decide who will govern, that leading to violence. there is a lot of books inside of the white house, and there has been nothing yet about being inside the congress. how is trump able to remake a political party.
some of the heros that you know, bill taylor and others that showed us the path forward. >> when you talk about your colleagues and what is happening in legislatures and state houses across the country, is that the continuing threat that you're worried about? that elections will no longer be definitive? that the very sense of security. >> the more dire threat that i believe is what is going on around the country and in state legislatures where republicans are taking away the authority of independent elections officials and gives them to people beholden to trump.
they're trying to succeed where they previously failed. that's how democracies come to an end. it's not office by violence, it's the cloak of legality, but using democracy to attack itself. >> the personal threats, the death threats, the way your family was acted, what does it say about public service. we have seen this happen to others in this highly polarized society, what are you going through? >> this was hard to write about. i remember be e.g. in the kitchen with my wife and tears in her eyes about the threats we were getting and the fact that so many millions of people hated her husband. it was one of those things where it just picked up overtime. i wasn't even aware of it happening, but it comes crashing in on you. my circumstance is not, sadly, atypical.
there is a lot of death threats to a lot of members now. one person called and they said we're going to put three bullets in the back of his head. and that is not something that i ever thought i would have to think of in this country. >> congressman adam schiff, thank you. >> my exclusive interview with three of the original victims of the havana syndrome who hear the sound they say caused their injuries. you're watching andrea mitchell reports next on msnbc. s next on.
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. five years after the mysterious symptoms that have come to be known as havana syndrome first appeared, the number of cases is now escalating with now more than 200 reported cases around the world mostly targeting u.s. diplomats and spies. recently in bogata, columbia. the cause remains a mystery but the leading theory is some form of directed energy perhaps microwave.
nbc news has been told perhaps first used to spy on embassies but now being used as a weapon by one or more hostile countries. for the first time three of the original havana victims are speaking out on television describing the painful symptoms that have caused brain damage in some instances and have cut short many promising careers. >> let's play it so you can see it here. >> it was a lot worse earlier. it was persistent kind of at the same level all the time, very, very loud. it's nothing you could sit with. >> kate, did anyone else in your neighborhood have this experience? >> yeah, on our right was another embassy family and then the people on our left and across the street from us were both canadian embassy employees. and in the end-all four households were diagnosed. >> describing what they experienced in havana. he is now based in paris.
she is no longer in the dip diplomatic service because of her conditions. the state department told us they're now having employees take tests on a voluntary basis so they can compare in case they suffer symptoms. we have a lot more tonight on "nightly news," the "today" show tomorrow and of course right here on andrea mitchell reports. and we'll be right back. n andre. and we'll be right back. as carla wonders if she can retire sooner, she'll revisit her plan with fidelity. and with a scenario that makes it a possibility, she'll enjoy her dream right now. that's the planning effect, from fidelity. i just became eligible for medicare and, can i say? it's so
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police officers in dayton, ohio, are being investigate following an incident of apparent excessive force caught on police body cam. newly released video edited by the dayton police department captures clifford who's a paraplegic forcibly being pulled out of his vehicle by his hair and thrown on the ground september 30th despite his repeated appeals and saying he had no use of his legs. clifford said he filed a complaint via naacp. the officers in the video have not been charged with any wrongdoing. the dayton police union said the officers followed the law, their training policies and procedures. this comes weeks after police reforms on capitol hill ended in failure leaving activists around
the country looking for solutions. joining us now is the ceo and president of the national urban league. let's first talk about this case and what the national urban league is doing, visiting states across the country that have been plagued by police violence. talk about this heartland tour as you're describing it and what the dayton experience tells us. >> well, thank you for having me. dayton is just another example of police gun amok. those officers in that instance should be terminated. they should be prosecuted. they violated the constitutional rights of a disabled american. they placed him at risk of further danger. they acted in an inappropriate fashion when there were many other ways to resolve whatever conflict was taking place while
he was driving his vehicle. so we've called for those officers to be terminated. we've called for there to be a complete and full criminal investigation. in this instance as you mention tomorrow i'll be in louisville, kentucky, tomorrow evening and on friday. and the purpose for that is what we're calling a heartland tour. we're showcasing 21 pillars -- these are 21 best practice ideas for the reenvisioning of public safety in communities. i'm disappointed beyond description at the failure of congress to enact meaningful police reform, but let the record show we're not giving up. we're not giving in. but while that is taking place police reform can proceed at a local level around the nation. washington, d.c.'s police report commission has recommended significant changes. in maryland the state
legislature overrode governor hogan's veto. to do things locally that do not need to wait on a intervention. it's a community using the powers of the justice department to enforce constitution of policing rules, practices and procedures. so, andrea, this fight will continue. and our purpose of being in louisville where the unfortunate, if you will murder of breonna taylor took place is to showcase those on the ground working like the louisville urban league fighting to bring changes in that city from the bottom up. >> well, mr. mayor, it's a wonderful legacy the national urban league. goes back to whitney young and
my great friend and you're carrying it on. it's just stunning in the aftermath of george floyd we've not gotten federal legislation, which would make it so much easier to have national standards. >> well, we will not give up. we'll not give in, we'll continue to fight, and thank you for having me on, andrea. >> you bet. well, we'll not leave it there. we'll continue. and that does it for today's edition of andrea mitchell reports. remember follow us online and on twitter. chuck todd and mtp daily starts right now. if it's wednesday president biden confronts a major economic headwind, the nation's growing supply chain backlogs, just one of many headaches plaguing the white house, covid, the border, our toxic politics, the return of trump and none of them are going away anytime soon. plus at 90 william shatner becomes the
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