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columbian government to move forward efficiently and rapidly. >> always a pleasure to see you. thank you for being with me. >> good seeing you always, jose. excellent program. congratulations. >> thank you so much, mike. that wraps up the hour for me. thank you for the privilege of your time. good tuesday morning. i'm chris jansing in for craig melvin. millions of americans are waking up to nightmarish weather conditions, a nor'easter in the east, a bomb cyclone in the west. we're live with what else folks should expect today. we're also keeping a very close eye on a potentially game changing fda meeting.
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a panel is deciding whether to approve pfizer's covid vaccine for kids ages 5 to 11. plus, president biden heading to virginia today to campaign for terry mcauliffe in a neck and neck governor's race just one week to election day. what to expect at this crucial juncture and democrats' first big test at the ballot box since taking power. speaker pelosi wants a vote on the bipartisan infrastructure bill as early as tomorrow. but three sources are now just telling nbc news in just the last half hour she told her caucus behind closed doors they will only take that vote if there's an agreement on the build back better reconciliation bill. jim clyburn talked about the
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timeline on ""morning joe"". >> the fact of the matter is we are on board. i like where we are and i think we're going to have a good product for the american people. >> what's likely in, what's likely out, what is still under discussion. here's where things stand in these very fluid negotiations. this is according to our capitol hill team. likely in, universal pre-k, a one-year extension of the child tax credit, child care center funding, pel grant increases, some unspecified climate change funding and an elder care provision. here's what might be out. free community college. this was very important to progressives. expanded medicare coverage. that includes dental, vision and hearing coverage. the clean electricity performance program. that is a major climate
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initiative. now president biden says that one is not out yesterday. senator manchin definitely would like to see it go. and tax hikes on corporations and high earners. what's still under discussion? an $800 medicare dental voucher program, four weeks of federal paid family leave, expansions in red states that haven't expanded it already and to pay for it, a billionaire wealth tax. it's a lot to cover. it's a good thing we have an incredible team on top of all this. ali vitali on capitol hill and josh letterman, who got some insight on senator manchin's thinking. critical two-day period to get something on paper here, the second self-imposed deadline of sorts they've created. they'd love to knock this out before some critical elections
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next week, before president biden leaves for rome on thursday. what are you hearing? >> reporter: they're going to try. the house democratic caucus for the morning just broke up. speaker pelosi said they were going to try for wednesday. that's still our understanding here. what she said is they want to continue to link these bills, that she still sees, as many progressives and others in her caucus do, they need a firm understanding and agreement on a framework for this larger social spending package before they can get a vote on the bipartisan infrastructure bill. it's true moderates want to see a vote on that bipartisan bill as soon as possible. many are saying because of the president's trip at the end of the week that it would be good to get a vote on those things. i think every democrat agrees on that. but the strategy has been to make sure they can get all of those things together. that's still the operating
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strategy here on capitol hill. the what's on the table piece of this is we're starting to see other lawmakers lobby the lawmakers at the center of this, people like senator joe manchin. i heard from lawmakers today who say they're lobbying him on medicaid expansion, although our sources tell us he's not there, nor is he there on something like paid leave. we're hearing now this morning from senator bernie sanders laying out one of his lines on what he thinks needs to be in this bill. >> the bottom line is that any reconciliation bill must include serious negotiations on the part of medicare with the pharmaceutical industry, along with the cost of prescription drugs. >> reporter: here's the thing. many progressives and democrats
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broadly have listed things they say must be in this reconciliation package and they may end up falling out at the end of this. in terms of the timeline, speaker pelosi told her caucus behind closed doors that this larger spending package is 90 % written. it's important for lawmakers to be able to see what's in it so they have trust in moving forward on it. moderates want to see a vote on the bipartisan infrastructure bill as soon as possible. progressives say they'll take the extra week to get it right. >> i want to bring in senator chris coons, democrat from delaware, and a close ally of president biden. good to see you. >> great to see you. >> where are we? is this going to get done? is it okay for you if it gets pushed off until terry mcauliffe
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is up for election? >> i think this is a critical week, not just because of the election in virginia, but because our president goes to the g 20 meeting in europe and then to the climate meeting in glasgow. i want to see us send him off with the strongest possible hand to pull together our allies in the fight against climate change and in strengthening our place on the world stage. >> let me ask you about that specifically. i know that climate change is something you've talked a lot about. it's top of mind for many democrats. we've seen what joe manchin has done. he has pushed back against many of these initiatives, including that clean electricity performance initiative that he says cannot happen. do you have a line in the sand the way you just heard bernie sanders talk about? is there something in climate change that you say this has to be in the bill? >> i'm not one of the members
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who's going to say but for this one thing, i will vote against the bill. i have worked diligently, tirelessly with my colleagues, because virtually our entire caucus agrees that investing in combatting climate through new tax incentives for scaling up clean energy production, new tax incentives for electric vehicles, a bold expansion of americorps through the civilian climate corps. these have unanimous support in our caucus. it's important to recognize that the bipartisan infrastructure bill, which has already cleared the senate, also has significant investments in climate resiliency and in stabilizing our electric grid so we can put more clean power into our grid. these are significant wins we've already got locked in. making progress on other areas, on a border carbon that would
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penalize high carbon intensive products from china or india. what matters most to me is we focus on the opportunity we have here, the moment we have here. even if what we're doing is a $1.5 trillion bill over ten years to invest in child care, in pre-k, in lowering the cost of prescription drugs. that's historic. if you had told me at any previous point in my ten years in the senate that we had a window to make that kind of progress on meeting the needs of working families, reducing the costs that keep them up at night, i would have said hallelujah, this is a remarkable breakthrough. the negotiating frame we've used here means you're putting up a score of what's in and what's out. i hope we focus on the positives of what's in and what's possible. i'm optimistic we can move
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forward to passing bold initiatives that will show the american people why they supported democrats and elected president biden. >> did in some ways democrats set themselves up for a fall, because 1.5 trillion may look to some people like that's not what they've been talking about for all these months, that's not what they promised us when we went into this. are you in a position where talking about 1.5 trillion sounds like spin? >> earlier this year in march every democrat in the stat with no republican votes passed the american rescue plan. that was a $1.9 trillion bill. a majority and every democrat and a number of republicans, an overwhelming majority in the senate, passed the infrastructure bill. that will put $1.2 trillion to work in our economy over the next decade. we also pass a $1.5 trillion
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build back better bill, that means president biden will have presided over the greatest generational round of investment in our country in its history. i'll remind you after the 2008-2009 economic crisis, president obama got to preside over an $800 billion rescue plan. that's it, that's what was available and half of that was in tax cuts. we've never done something this big in my lifetime and we ought to celebrate. i understand my colleagues who are disappoints that not every one of our ideas will be included. not one republican is in the mix saying they also want to be a part of moving forward generational investments and daycare and pre-k and elder care and in reducing the cost of
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health care. we have to do this on our own, so we have to celebrate what we can get done and move forward. >> an ongoing wildcard, of course, remains how you plan to pay for it. i want to play what your colleague elizabeth warren said about the wealth tax this morning. >> the richest folks don't have to pay any taxes. i think we've finally reached a point where not only do the american people say enough, we might actually get people on capitol hill saying enough. so that's what we've got to do. >> do you agree with headlines that say the political will for this wealth tax is definitely growing? are you confident you can make sure that a billionaire tax, a wealth tax actually works, isn't filled with loopholes? >> i haven't seen the details of what's being proposed as a billionaire tax yet. i look forward to reviewing that. i'm someone who all along
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thought it made more sense for us to restore the corporate rate to 25, significantly below, ten points below where it was historically. but still i think a rate that would have brought in significantly more revenue. i think, as the house has done, moving a tax package that is simple and easy to implement makes more sense. but if there's a billionaire tax proposal that can pay for this bill alongside irs enforcement, which by the way is something we all agree upon, i'm committed to that principle that we're not going to add to the deficit with this bill. it's going to be paid for. there were protests at howardreg conditions, over photograph. i've worked to make sure this package includes investments in
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hbcus. i am fighting to make sure that's in the package and i'm optimistic we will see several billion dollars of investments in institutions that serve both hispanic and tribal colleges and historically black colleges. historical black colleges overwhelmingly serve first generation and low income students. they are gems in our states and pathways to opportunity. given our president's commitment to equity, begin our vice president's personal experience, we should not miss this moment at advancing equity through higher education. >> thank you. so that brings me to josh letterman. you are one of the folks who got to sit down over a meal with senator manchin last night. you heard senator coons. he's not going to draw a line in
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the sand and say but for this or this, but we know some of the things senator manchin has been against. what did you learn last night that helps us to inform how this powerful senator is thinking in these waning, they hope, hours of negotiations? >> this was a dinner that senator manchin attended at a private room at a restaurant in georgetown that i attended along with a handful of other journalists. manchin made some on the record comments at the beginning of that dinner. the senator manchin that we saw at this dinner was one who really does not have an idealogical home in washington right now and seems frankly a little burnt out by all of the pressure he is facing from all different angles.
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he said he feels like president biden is a good man with a good heart, but at the same time he described in a lot of detail this struggle that he's facing, saying that he is basically a democrat because of the way he was raised, but that he thinks republicans are good people. they're his friends. so you saw someone there kind of struggling with how to forge his own identity amid all of this. he also told us of all of this pressure that this is not a position i would wish on anybody. he said he's totally out of sync with 48 other democrats. he's referring to kyrsten sinema as the one other democrat he's in sync with. he's trying to find a way to survive in a very divided congress and country. we also heard this morning from senator manchin at the economic club where he described the balance he's trying to strike on this infrastructure bill and the reconciliation bill.
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here's what he said. >> i have a moral responsibility to take care of those who can't take care of themselves. government has a moral responsibility to do things the private sector won't do. we've got to jump out and be creative and do things, but we shouldn't be on the front end taking care of everybody. >> and senator manchin was also asked this morning at the economic club about reports that he was considering leaving the democratic party, which of course he has pushed back on. he said, look, would that be easier for me? of course it would but it wouldn't really solve anything. he didn't think that would be easier for republicans either to have him part of their party. we are following breaking news. dangerous weather coast to coast. that bomb cyclone on the west coast, tornado damage in the midwest and the first nor'easter of the season battering the east coast. we're following the path of
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right now americans from coast to coast are dealing with a triple threat of extreme
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weather. parts of the east coast getting drenched in the first nor'easter of the season. overnight heavy rain and strong winds slammed states along the northeast corridor. nearly 35 million americans are under flood alerts. governors in new jersey and new york both declaring a state of emergency. over on the west coast we're seeing unbelievable images of the onslaught of rain brought about by the bomb cyclone. cars crushed under trees, rock slides flooding there as well. parts of the midwest are bracing for more possible tornados after storms ripped through missouri and illinois. stephanie gosk is in queens, new york, one of the areas hit hardest by hurricane ida in early september. walk us through what you're seeing where you are and how this fits into the extremes we're seeing all across the country. >> reporter: fortunately, i'm not standing in the rain right now. this is a lull in the system.
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it's not over. it's going to come back in and start to rain again this afternoon. but people have a couple of hours here to dry out. it was torrential rain overnight, nearly a month's worth of rain in 24 hours here in new york city. there were flash flood watches in effect here in the city. outside the city in northern parts of new jersey, there were some communities that cancelled school all together because they were so concerned about this storm. this area is still recovering from hurricane ida, the remnants of hurricane ida. here in queens and throughout new york city, 11 people died in basement apartments when the flooding just happened so quickly they couldn't escape. the city really went to great effort to make sure that didn't happen this go around. this is not as intense a storm, to be sure, but they cleared out
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drains, they had water pumps brought in. the mayor issued this stark warning to people who live in those basement apartments to get to higher ground. the other big issue they had were the subways. they had to completely shut down the subways after ida. they sent crews to 50 subway stations in the city and cleared the drains and vents. you may remember those unbelievable pictures from ida of cascading water into subway stations. through the night they kept the subways up and running. so far there haven't been any disruptions. the storm will eventually move up the northeast, bringing high winds to massachusetts and maine before it clears out of here. >> thank you. we appreciate your reporting today. meantime, just over 24 hours
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from now authorities will finally hold a press conference on the shooting on the set of alec baldwin's film "rust." detectives seized 28 items including three revolvers, spent casings and ammunition in boxes, loose and in a fanny pack. it was not specified what kind of ammunition was seized, whether it was bullets, blanks or dummies. critically, we still haven't been told what was in the begin from the fatal shot. right now production on "rust" has been suspended and no one has been charged. we're watching a hearing on protecting kids from everything from tiktok to youtube. the growing pressure on leaders to act on social media. plus parents of childrens ages 5 to 11 turn up the volume. the fda is meeting right now about approving pfizer's vaccine for kids. about approving pfizer's vaccine
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today could be a game changer for millions of parents across the country. right now an fda advisory panel is meeting to vote on whether to approve pfizer's covid vaccine for kids ages 5 to 11. if that happens, we could start to see kids getting their shots by early november. joining me, an internal medicine
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physician at california pacific medical center. this pfizer data is on that child sized dose, about a third of what's given to adults. it shows 90% effective in eliminating symptomatic covid infection in that age group. >> there's such wonderful news happening on the vaccine front for younger children. we know that the fda's independent advisory committee on vaccines will meet today to decide whether to recommend the pfizer vaccine for 28 million kids in the u.s. ages 5 to 11. if the fda authorizes that vaccine, which we expect they will, the cdc's independent advisory committee is scheduled to meet early next week to make recommendations on who should get the shot. if everything moves forward as planned, we could probably see shots going in kids' arms as
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early as next week. it's a good idea to prepare for this now. for parents out there with questions, now is the time to talk to your doctor and find out if your doctor's office or local pharmacy is going to be admin administering the vaccine. >> it's not just pfizer, but moderna has released data from its vaccine trial, kids 6 to 11. their vaccine generated, they say, a strong immune response as well. the problem is a majority of parents aren't anxious to rush to get their kids the first shots. many who believe even if their child does get sick, it's unlikely to be serious or they don't buy into a social consciousness argument. how do you combat that? >> it's really tricky. for parents out there with questions, as i said, right now
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is the time to be chatting with people you trust, hopefully your pediatrician or family physician. ask those questions. we want to hear from now. of the 6 million kids in the u.s. who have been infected, 1.1 million have been in the last six weeks. the delta variant sent nearly 30,000 kids to the hospital in august. getting this age group vaccinated is essential. reach out to your doctor if you have questions. >> thank you so much. also right now executives from youtube, snap and tiktok are facing tough questions by senators at a hearing on capitol hill. the focus is on how their platforms can cause harm to children online. today's hearing underscores the intensifying scrutiny of social media companies. it was just yesterday that british lawmakers heard blistering testimony from
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facebook whistleblower frances haugen. she appeared before a joint committee of parliament that's crafting a bill to regulate social media. . >> we could have a safer platform that will work for everyone in the world, but it could cost little bits of growth and it's a company that lionizes growth. >> garrett, you and i have talked about this before. it's not day, another hearing. has anything stood out to you so far in this one and in light of the conversation the whistleblower has started? is the will on capitol hill starting to feel any different to you now? >> reporter: these are all facebook's competitors testifying today. each of them are taking pains to make the point they take additional steps to try to keep
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their youngest clientele safe when using their app. here's a little bit of what witnesses were saying a short time ago. >> our leadership makes safety and wellness a priority, particularly to protect teens on the platform. >> some of the research we did shows that 95% of users say that snapchat makes them happy. >> reporter: these are very different platforms. the most diplomatic way i could say this is many of the questions thus far have been less than nuanced about how these platforms work and the steps they could take to best protect their youngest users. there seems to be some agreement in the room about the idea of universalizing age verification on these platforms as the
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simplest way to protect young users. it's clear how far we probably still are from meaningful regulation passing through congress. >> garrett haake with that realistic assessment, thank you very much. if you're planning, we're now less than a month out from thanksgiving and folks planning to cook are maybe in for a bit of grocery sticker shock. according to the "new york times," thanksgiving 2021 could be the most expensive meal in the history of that holiday. so many issues have piled up to cause the price hikes, supply chain problems, transportation expenses, labor shortages. so consider stuffing your cabinet now if you see any early sales on thanksgiving staples. up next, tapping in a tight race. first it was former president obama. now president biden is hitting the campaign trail with democrat terry mcauliffe in virginia's
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election day for virginia's governor is now one week away and president biden is set to campaign for democrat terry mcauliffe tonight. his opponent glenn youngkin is meeting with voters this morning. shannon, do we know what to expect we'll hear from the president tonight, and what kind of pressure is he feeling to get the infrastructure, to get the spending bills passed, something obviously mcauliffe has strongly called for and a lot of democrats think he needs if he's going to win this race? >> reporter: you can see they're clearly in campaign mode behind me less than a year after we saw biden out on the campaign trail. coming out here again to draw
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some more attention to this race. some things we can expect to hear from the president as we have been hearing at many stops he has been making across the country is trying to sell this agent, these ambitious spending plans, things like universal pre-k, investment in climate change, investment in education, expanding health care. those will be some of the big themes to look for from the president. of course, mcauliffe is running as a sort of biden democrat. he is a stalwart of the democratic party. he is aligned with biden on a lot of big policy issues. however democratic strategists and mcauliffe himself have essentially blamed biden for the poor poll numbers we have seen in this race so far. biden's approval rating is very low here in a state that he won by ten points. that is not lost on democrats who feel like they would be
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doing better in this race if democrats in washington were getting more done on the president's agenda, if they had something to show to voters for what a democratic agenda looks like. that's one of the dynamics here. of course a big one, when it comes to turnout, turnout after a presidential year is historically low. the lower it is, the worse historically it has been for democrats. any effect the president can have on getting attention to this race and driving outvoters is likely to be a positive for democrats. >> gary what are you hearing from youngkin? >> reporter: youngkin is on a ten day, 50-stop bus tour across the state. he just wrapped up a gas tax event here. he believes the elimination of the gas tax would really benefit
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people here. it's in a really rural area of southern virginia. we're talking about 28,000 people that live here. 10% of them are below the poverty line. he believes the elimination of the gas tax would benefit virginians as a whole. this area voted for donald trump in 2016 by double digits. we spoke to glenn youngkin about the nationalization of this race. do you support the idea that people think this is donald trump versus joe biden? >> i don't know about with everybody else, but if you look at the ballot today it says glenn youngkin and terry mcauliffe. everybody's voting for glenn youngkin. >> reporter: there are two different strategies here. democrats are bringing out the
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big guns. you've got president obama, president biden coming out in support of terry mcauliffe. what you're seeing from glenn youngkin is a very different strategy, having these smaller events. >> thanks to both of you. we've got shifting ideologies, democratic changes, new political fault lines. if you thought it was all just happening in virginia, think again. it's playing out in other parts of the country too and it has big implications for the 2022 midterms. 2022 midterms you know how some carriers give you so little for your old or busted phone, you just end up living with it!? i don't think so. verizon lets you trade in your broken phone for a shiny new one. you break it, we upgrade it. you dunk it? doggy-bone it? ha-ha!
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communities around the country. nbc's antonia hilton is in north carolina, dasha burns is in delaware county ohio. antonia you're in a rural community. what are the biggest concerns as we look to the next year? >> reporter: that's right. this is a rural quiet community, a lot of farmland here. we're looking at this county to understand rural black voters in america in particular. what we've been hearing from people who live here is their issues are really practical. they're focused on essentials here. this is not a community where people are fighting about climate change or gun control, for example. this is a community dealing with high poverty rates. the school has students who don't have access to broad band
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internet. they have some families who don't have running water. they're focused on the essentials, economy and jobs and opportunities they feel have passed by them in recent years. it's an interesting place with some contradictions. on the one contradictions. many black leaders are here. and black voters feel like their voices are not being heard at the statewide or national level. and we're seeing that in 2016 hillary clinton took this county by 13 points. then in 2020 joe biden only took it by four. as we have conversations with people to understand what happened here is the result of a community that feels like they have been left behind and even some of the black voters that are often dedicated voters are starting to feel like their voices are not being heard. let's listen to howard mcclain who is part of the schools here.
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>> a quality education with all of the resources. that's number one. the education is a key for us, okay? second i will say that the job situation that we have, several years ago, we had a bunch of victory workers, now those things are going away for a job that is scarce and competitive. >> in talking to howard and other black leaders and voters here in the anson county area, another interesting factor that i learned about is that in addition to fears about the economy they're focused on young people. the young black people born here, coming up in the county right now and as they look at the challenges they're facing they're wondering what kind of jobs and community will the young people here inherit. they're watching many of them leave and never return nap is another tie to their hoping that politicians will look to rural
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communities and help them solve. they don't believe it is sustainable right now. his message was that it is not just about black voters but also upcoming generations in a rural county. this is a story of anson and other communities like anson. >> dasha, you're in my home state, i went to college about 20 minutes from where you are there. a very different demographic there. what are you finding voters are talking about? >> yeah, kris, honored to be in your home state. a very different story here. this is an affluent community. a majority white community, and delaware -- >> okay, so i think we've lost dasha. dasha, can you hear us? we're going to take a quick
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check traveler's vaccination status. one more step that could cause backups. >> that was ron allen for us. that's going to do it for me on this busy hour. "andrea mitchell reports" starts next with the latest on the big negotiations on the spending plan on capitol hill. have a great day. good day, everyone, this is "andrea mitchell reports" in washington. at this hour in an fda advisory panel is meeting to decide whether or not to recommend the pfizer vaccine for 5 to 12 year olds. a smaller child dose of the vaccine could get a full vote of approval a week from thousand, and they will stand for approval for shots in arms as early as next month. seven days from now the two big
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