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americans over the course of hours, it is unprecedented in american history. >> yeah. david plouffe, who has been on the other side of that machine, had it aimed at him. thank you so much. >> thanks chris. >> that is all in for the week. is all in for the week well good evening once again day 297 of the biden administration, tonight as we bring a long week to a close there is a glimmer of possible consequences for one of the most arrogant and hubris stick members of trump's inner circles. steve bannon indicted by a federal grand jury for contempt of congress. and the other news is about that guy in the right, former trump white house chief of staff, former congressman mark meadows may be heading for the same fate. grand jury's decision on banning came late this afternoon, 22 days after the house voted to hold him in
contempt and sent his gaze over to the justice department. he's been charged with refusing to testify, and refusing to produce documents in response to that committee subpoena. house investigators cited bannon's comments the day before the capitol right, the stuff he said out loud and publicly, one of the reasons they want to hear from him. >> it's going to be quite extraordinarily different. and all i can say strap in. the war room, a posse, you've made this happen, and tomorrow 's game day. all hell is going to break loose tomorrow, it's going to be moving, it's going to be quick. >> sounds unambiguous, like a mob movie where the boss pressures his guys not to read him out. trump has directed his former aides not to cooperate, not to hand over documents, on top of insisting that he somehow is still president, trump thinks he's shielded by executive privilege in this case. and that won't work here, today the one six committee chair benny thompson and co-chair liz
cheney issued a statement together about bannon that red, in part, steve bannon's indictment should send a clear message to anyone who thinks they can ignore the select committee or try to stonewall our investigation. no one is above the law. we will not hesitate to use the tools that our disposal to get the information we need. close quote. trump hardens steve man in earlier this year when he was facing fraud charges, that pardon is not currency, and will do nothing for him now. and it is now facing up to two years max on the contempt artist, but then it is because who is trying to himself on monday before his first quarter appearance. no doubt, after enjoying's weekend, would it surprise you to learn that he is taking a defiant stand. >> we're taking action, were taken over the republican party, were taken over all the elections, and we're gonna continue that. we're going to get to the bottom of three november, and we're going to decertify the
electors. and you can have a constitutional crisis. >> as for former trump steve staff mark meadows, who happens to be a former member of congress he was a no-show today, despite the one six committees demands that he appear for a deposition, 10 am sharp. no meadows. that didn't go over well with the committee, which issued this warning. mr. meadows actions today -- choosing to defy the law -- will force the select committee to consider pursuing contempt or other proceedings to enforce the subpoena. meadows has also invoked trump's claim of executive privilege which one six committee members have dismissed. >> we've got to take some action, you can't allow these individuals who have information that the committee needs to simply flood their obligation, thumb their nose at congress, and the law. that can happen in america. >> this posture is just laughable, there is no absolute
here that he can't come before the committee or can't talk about some of his work previously. >> and here is the problem for mark meadows, he once believed in the sanctity of the subpoena, and the need to cooperate with a congressional investigation. this is from 2018. >> what are you accusing rob rosenstein of, specifically. well really, for nine months we've asked for documents. that's all we want, is the documents, and what we found is not only how subpoenas been ignored. but, information has been hidden, the efforts have been stonewalled. and i guess for us, it's all about transparency, so the american people can judge for themselves. so, they may be able to ignore congress, but they can't ignore the american people. >> well, apparently that's all changed now. this is all unfolding, mind you, amid a stunning new revelation about trump's reaction to mike pence being in danger on the
day of the insurrection, as those rioters hunted for him in the capital. >> hang mike pence, hang mike pence, hanging. pence [noise] >> you see it turns out that two months after that day back in march of this year, charles mocha john carl of abc news for his forthcoming book called betrayal, the final act of the trump show. during their interview, the former president appears to confront the insurrectionists who said they want to hang mike pence when he was about to certify the election results. >> were you about worried about him during that siege? we worried about the safety? >> no i thought he was well protected and i heard he was in good shape. i had heard he was embargoed shape. >> because you heard those chants, that was terrible. >> he could have well, the
people were very angry. >> they were saying hang mike pence. >> because it's common sense, john. it's common sense that you're supposed to protect. how can you -- if you know about his fraudulent, right? how can you pass on a fraudulent vote to congress? >> we wanted to let you know as well that jonathan carl will join us on our broadcast monday night. with that, let's bring in our lead off guest on this friday night. our starting line it includes jonathan linear, veteran white house reporter, political white house bureau chief. he is also the host of way too early at 5 am on this network, and is able to join us night because he can sleep in tomorrow. katie benner, justice department reporter for the new york times, and daniel goldman former assistant u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york, who also served as general counsel for the house intelligence committee during the first trump and parchment. good evening and welcome to all, mr. goldman i need to begin with you and your legal training. for a slave people in the
audience, what is the significance of these bannon charges today, that so many, especially democrats, we're waiting for. >> well, the significance is that the rule of law on matters. congressional subpoenas matter. and, the department of justice is taking the view that flouting congressional subpoenas is a crime as the criminal statutes dictate. and, they are not going to be afraid of a partisan backlash. and so i think it really is a marker in the sand that if you are going to break the law no matter if you are a trump supporter or someone who received a pardon from donald trump despite a massive fraud. you are not going to get the benefit of that partisan, political interest that donald trump sort of used for the last four years. so i think it's very meaningful, not only to send a message to the witnesses before the
january six committee. but also to send a message around that the department of justice is back, the rule of law matters, and people who flout the law and got a free ride under donald trump, or no longer can you get a free ride. this is one standard of justice now, for everyone. >> and katie benner indeed, along the same lines, you wrote earlier that the bannon case is a litmus test in your view, and in light of your reporting, what else does it potentially mean? >> well, it shows two things. one, that attorney general merrick garland is going to follow the recommendations of career prosecutors, he's done is again and again. and lots of cases where democrats have not like. in case where prosecutors in the u.s. attorney's office in washington d.c., they looked at the facts, they decided that the charges were appropriate, and when they were brought to the attorney generals office he fully supported them as he's done in the past. that's one, and the other is that it's not off the table the
idea that the justice department would basically present cases before the jury that are very politically fraught. this one is politically front. will wondering if away on on this -- >> jonathan the mayor. any sense, i keep asking the folks to cover this white house, of how the biden white house is reacting to today's development for one, and how closely they are covering the committee activities? >> sure, publicly they're not saying a whole lot, because they want to have a fire wall between the white house and the department of justice. as you recall, a few weeks ago, biden was asked on the white house south lawn what he thought should happen to steve bannon, he suggested they should be criminally prosecuted. later the white house had to walk that back, that was just a presidents personal opinion, he certainly wasn't trying to steer the doj anywhere.
-- of course, they are pleased to see those, because there is real fear here that congress would almost lose her ability as a critical branch of government, if they don't have any teeth, that's why they're pleased that bannon got cited. and now the department of justice follows through on these charges. which they believe is good, not to get to the bottom of what happened on january six, but half send a message to others that this can't happen again. and voters had some concerns, bannon has embraced this, he seems to be willing to be a maga martyr, if you will, and even willing to face prosecution and even present time. but it's not clear that others in the trump audit will be the same, and mostly the crosshairs now on mack meadows, who now sees what happened to bannon, and realizes the same thing might happen to him if he does not cooperate. >> dan goldman, let's talk about mark meadows.
what should the legal advice be that a guy like mark meadows is receiving, right about now? well. >> the legal advice should be that you need to shop, and there is no excuse for not showing up. recently, a district court dealt with us in the mcgahn case in 2019, and said, quite definitively, but there's no such thing as absolute immunity. if you have an executive privilege claim, and mark manilow's, unlike steve bannon, very well may. then you have to show up, and you have to make that executive privilege claim in person. the president has to assert it. and it's important, though, brian, to take a step back. there's a lot of discussion about whether donald trump can assert executive privilege, or whether joe biden can. so mark meadows perspective, it's legitimate for him to say. i don't know who decides executive privilege. but someone is telling me, a former president is telling me
that he wants to invoke executive privilege, it's not on me to make the decision as to whether that's illegitimate assertion or not. so, it's a little murky or as it relates to the documents with mark meadows, but it is clear cuts that he must show up and testify, and he can claim executive privilege, or say that donald trump told him that he may invoke executive privilege. that is a bogus out, that is a bogus claim. there is still some legitimacy from mark meadows perspective. >> got it. all right, katie benner, mr. bannon, in addition to loving attention, has been a central character in the trump show season one and season too. remind our audience what he might know, and how you might know it. >> yeah, so one of the thing that their committees really interested in, it's a statement he made on his radio station the day before the attack on
the capitol, he said things are going to get really crazy, said they want to under-understand why felt that way 24 hours before the attack, he was also present at the willard hotel where there is a lot of activity around the stop the steal rally. earlier that day. so he's been very important sponsor before the violence happened. >> all right, so that puts him at the center of all of this, as chronicled as well in the cost the woodward book, peril. jonathan lemay here, let me turn the corner to the white house that you cover on a daily basis. are they getting the message on messaging and is all of it in danger of being washed aside by gas prices? >> certainly, brian, inflation and the consumer price index has sent a shockwave through
the white house this week. they know that it is out but there are certain numbers. and the political fallout is significant. i've talked to aids over the summer, who knew it would be a problem, but it caught them off-guard how significant it is. it certainly hands republicans are real cultural with with to hit them. -- from the passive of the bipartisan infrastructure bill in the house. there's a lot to be done on the reconciliation bill. and though congress without this week, it felt like both sides tap the brakes. a lot of work to be done on that. that will resume when congress gets back to washington next week. by this could be -- certainly, part one was a win in part to could be as well. and the white house believes they will eventually land that plane as well. this, signed into law, will bring tangible benefits for americans and give democrats
something to run on. but you are right, prices and inflation, that's significant. americans look at the pump and those gas prices are on display for what to see, it's a tangible reminder of what's going on, and of course we are headed into the holidays. rising prices twinned with a worrying surge in covid cases could be a problem as we head into the holiday season and not with this white house needs. >> indeed, it's getting rough out there. dan goldman, you get the last word, while i have access to you and your legal experience. at the risk of bombing out a bunch of people in our audience tonight, what is the likely timeframe on the steve bannon matter? does this go to trial? is there a jury selection? is there a possibility of a plea? what happens? >> there is the possibility of both a plea and a trial, as steve bannon is taking a aggressive track, enjoying being the center of attention. so i doubt that he is
particularly interested in some sort of a plea deal that would inevitably require him to testify before the congressional committee as a condition of that plea. and if it goes to trial, though, if it doesn't go -- it doesn't go to trial next week. there needs to be a production of all the evidence that goes to him. his attorneys will have the opportunity to file motions and then they will set a trial date. but that will be a couple of months, most likely, before the trial will begin. and it is a misdemeanor charge but he could go to jail for up to a year -- actually, up to two years, because there are two counts in total, they total a 200,000 dollar fine. >> we are so grateful to our starting line, jonathan lemire, two katie benner and daniel goldman, thank you all so much, have a good weekend. coming up, steve bannon had his day in court, as we've been talking about. will mark meadows be next? why today's bombshell contempt
charges should usher in a whole new era of political legal warfare, not to be confused with consequences. and later, the groundhog bill, that second biden bill, the social spending bill. what kind of future does it face with inflation infiltrating every american home? it's a lot, we've got it all covered, all of it, as the 11th hour is getting underway, in view of the north lawn of the white house. th white house.
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bannon, mark meadows, they have run rampant for the last four years in the land of no laws, where they were above the law, pirates in international waters. and now they are coming to find that they should be and will be treated just like everyone else. so mark meadows, call your office, because your refusal to show up today is probably not going to be looked upon kindly at the department of justice. >> and indeed the justice department is sending a message to trump allies who wish to defy house subpoenas, let's remember that this is the second criminal indictment for steve bannon. trump pardon him for the first by the pardon does not cover insurrections. it's one of a long list of trump allies who have been charged with crime since 2016, most likely not to last. if mark meadows and others do not fall in line, we are going to hear the real deal on this tonight. thanks to the two friends we have, juanita tolliver, that
are in political strategist to progressive candidates and susan del percio, msnbc political analyst and a veteran strategist herself. good evening to you both. juanita, rooted in the real world. you heard dan goldman's answer, a polite way of saying that this bannon matter could go on until our grandchildren get old. what do you make of the indictment against bannon today? and what it may symbolize? >> look. politically, this couldn't have come at a better time, granted it's 22 days after the house voted to her for the charges to the doj, and now it is a moment where the select committee is demonstrating, via the doj backing it up, that it has teeth and ready to come for any witness who tries to stonewall the investigation. i think janssen alice's of bannon's response is absolutely right, he wants to be a martyr and wants to go down swinging, so expect appeal after appeal
after appeal. but bannon is different in that other witnesses may not be willing to take a criminal charge for trump. other witnesses may not have the financial resources to fight court battle after court battle for trump. to insulate him from any accountability. so honestly i am looking at this, like, the signal to other witnesses that the committee will come for you with intent, and it's a matter of time before the first witness flips, because taking charges or criminal charges for someone like trump, is not something that everyone on that list is going to be willing to do. so keep a eye out for the first witness to reverse course, and i think that the select committee is not going to slow this down. when we started the day, i was asking myself, the question, how far are these folks like meadows and clark, when the select committee has not even had the first referral completed, and now that the
indictment has been made against bannon -- we are ending the day, saying that, okay, they made this list, they are going to come for more people, and those witnesses are likely taking pause tonight. >> so susan, here's a question. what's a republicans saying about all of this? what can they say about all of this? is there still a kind of ghost establishment wing within the party? like the portman's of the world to find it also distasteful but would rather die than say so publicly? >> that's what's going on, they want nothing to do with any republican who may have a conscience, as far as speaking out. we have seen who they are. and two of them happened to be on the select committee. but i just want to follow up on something that was just said,
which is that witness witnesses have already given testimony. 150 of them, actually, liz cheney said, have spoken to the select committee, which tells me that republicans tell me, internally -- and i'm hearing about this, they know that liz cheney knows their playbook and knows how to play hardball. and she is vice chair, and is very intimidating to a lot of republicans who know that she knows where the bodies are buried. susan, you are not intimating that any republican members of congress know more than any others, then and any of them had an active or passive role that? >> oh, i wouldn't their brian, i wouldn't dare suggest it. but i can say it's been reported. so i do believe the news reports that there are people who have been aware, and some of them have even thrown their stuff under the bus. i don't know bit of my staff
today, that's great. so the staff members are talking, and like i say, they don't have the resources for an attorney. and those who are attorneys, like eastman and clark, and even kayleigh mcenany, do they really want a contempt shards on the record? with a law license on the line? i don't think so. >> kelly tells everyone in her presence that she went to harvard law school, i guess that'll be the test of that. both of our guests are thankfully staying with us, we're gonna fit in a break, coming up, we've said it often. it's the eve of yet another critical week for this administration, will get into what's at stake, and what will be talking about by the time we meet again on monday night. night
we owe it to the american people to make sure that the money in this infrastructure plan, and the build back better plan which will be able to still finish, which will be able to use for the purposes it's intended. if we do it right, we know what it will mean, will create millions of new jobs, it will grow the economy, and it will new our world economic competition. >> notable today, biden have a cabinet meeting and did not go around the room soliciting praise reverend at the table. well president biden tries to sell the bipartisan
infrastructure plan, he's already having to face the next challenge is to his agenda. he needs to get an off votes for that build back better plan with yet another government shutdown rather looming. c is still with us juanita tolliver and susan del percio. so susan, think of these challenges, massive social spending bill. a big roadblock in the name of a guy who, despite the motor yacht in the maserati, isn't it for the little guy in west virginia. and then you've got the government funding deadline coming up, and on top of all of it, if you ask people. the number one issue in american homes these days, the price of bacon, what we're paying for gas, and the fear that these prices are going north for a good long while. >> that's right, and brian that should be the target of this administration. let me say this way, the first,
second, and third thing that should come out of the president's mouth and everyone around him is, i am going to repair this bridge. i'm going to get broadband to this community. the specific, say what you are delivering, because the president needs, politically, in order to get the other things done, he needs to get his approval numbers up. they are in anywhere from the low 40s to some even in the high 30s. he has to be effective, he has to have political play. and that is where he will get it from, from actually saying he delivered. don't talk about bill black better until after you signed a first bill that you actually have. because, right now, people are more concerned -- they are concerned about inflation, they're concerned about covid, jonathan linear talked about this, and the trifecta, you've got them can discerned about the supply chain and empty shelves for christmas. so this is a problem that this
administration is fixing, they have to tighten their message to the public. just one other thing. when it comes to inflation and joe manchin, he happened to be right a couple of months ago when he started bringing this up. so that is a problem, also, for translating this to more matter democrats, is that inflation is a problem and it will be interesting to see how the moderates address that, and if they saw the buy in when they saw it a week ago when they saw them pass this bill. >> i know we never see juanita driving around in d.c. animals roddie, so juanita coming right off those comments. what's if anything in your view, agree or disagree with susan, is the white house doing right, what do they not saying, whether they're not trying to sell that they should be doing? >> look, i agree with susan on a lot of points, i think what the white house is doing right is listing out the ways that
they're trying to alleviate the most immediate present issues. like we heard with the biden preview in baltimore, he talked about working to get reports on the west coast 24/7 to make sure stores are stocked, and make sure they have everything they need. i think the other thing the white house is doing, is already starting to talk about the cost cutting measures, and this is why just through susan, talk about build back better to let people know that more is coming. because yes, investments and rose and and bridges and broadband are critical to communities in the way people function, but they are not the same as eliminating and reducing the cost of childcare, eliminating the cost of pre-k, reducing elder care cost, reducing medical prescription cost. things that will be helpful and counteract-ing some of the inflammation missionary impacts work we have seen, i think going to congressional -- should be hitting from the white house. as well as president biden to
places cabinet, mayors across the country himself, so on monday when he signs the bipartisan infrastructure bill, i fully met expected to mention the build back better bill yet again. indicating that more is coming, more causing any measures that will allow people to save money but more of their own money where they need it. i think the other effect here for the president, it's continually to contextualize this in the global pandemic, and no one planned for, especially, as we know, the gop is gearing up there are talks on inflation and blaming it all on biden. when it surely is a lot to do with the pandemic and global supply chains as a result. >> i know our audience joins me in thanking juanita tolliver and susan del percio, two friends of our broadcast, for joining us on this friday night. always a pleasure, will do it again, coming up for us, the editor of the local paper in storm like, iowa, happens to be a pulitzer prize recipient, and yet struggles to keep his family owned paper alive and well.
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whether garbage is being picked up, so when it comes to news, our model is if it didn't happen in louisville account it didn't happen. that was our next guest, award-winning journalist art cohen, he starts in a new documentary named after the town of storm lake, iowa, there is monday on pbs. the film reveals the grueling feed of surviving as a local, family run newspaper. >> i get real appetite about that every hour we waited cost 100 bucks.
i've gotta all amped up twice a week. >> we are pleased to welcome to the broadcast, tonight, the aforementioned art cohen, he is the pulitzer prize winner and co-owner of the storm like times,, and author of a storm like, change and hope in the heartland. you have any idea how many emails are gonna tell you to quit smoking, for starters? >> yeah. i've been trying since i was 12. >> we'll, be ready if people are gonna be sending you come in every other where they discovered along the way. i want to establish our conversation with, tell us how big or how small storm lake is, and what kind of town it is. >> well, storm lake is a town of about 10 to 15,000 people, we're not sure how many people actually live here, because so
many are undocumented immigrants, and sensors wasn't terribly successful counting them all. it's a meatpacking town, and corn, soybean, and a hard country in iowa, corn and beans as far as the eye can see. about 90% of our elementary school's children of color, mainly immigrants from mexico. about 23 languages are spoken right now in storm like. >> i'm assuming the indictment of steve bannon is not the number one topic of conversation in storm like i'll just as quickly say it is not the number one topic of conversation uniformly across the country. but what is,, these days? >> well, i think, inflation is a big topic of discussion right now. most especially gas and home heating prices. we had snow this morning, and it was with about a 50 mile an
hour winds, so you're reminded of natural gas prices. i think that is a source of great anxiety among people, the uncertainty of what's going to happen with the pandemic and all these supply chain issues. it adds to this level of anxiety, i think. across the country. >> well, when you think about it, and i know you do a lot. we just talked about supply chain, we talked about inflation, we've talked about potentially a climate change topic. i am certain opioids are a factor in town so it's a small town with big city problems? >> well, rather than opioids i'd say matt is a big problem in rural iowa than oil opioids. that said, yeah, there's a lot of big issues, swirling around's storm lake.
climate change may be one of them. but it's causing i wanted to be wetter and warmer through the dark days, well the rest of us -- in nebraska and colorado have been through extreme drought. and it's affecting agriculture significantly, and farmers are running to do something about climate change. and i don't think most people in storm like our pain a whole lot of attention to the january six investigation or the talks in glasgow, for that matter. but they are interested in what congress is doing about climate change and agriculture in particular. >> my first reporting job was in kansas, and even though i came from jersey, grew up on the east coast, once i was out there i remember at least two story is brought in national media. the high it regency in kansas
city that does sky way collapsed, and the tylenol tampering case happened near where i was working. and what a different perspective to, see the national media come in. i remember thinking how patronizing they were to local media and local folks, and life in rural kansas. what do national media routinely get wrong about your job, your business, and your town? oh >> well, one thing that i think perhaps national media get wrong, is that they think we don't know with the story is. and, in fact, we do. and another thing, that i think national media gets wrong about the midwest and iowa in particular is that we're just farmers.
there's about 800 farmers and one of his stick county, and there's about 3000 meatpacking workers. again, most of them latino. it's a much more diverse place then anybody from the outside might imagine. those are two misconceptions, i guess. >> you look comfy, on a cold night, i'm gonna ask you to stay right where you are, i want to fit in a break and fit continue our conversation. we'll talk when we come back about why local news has been so critical in storm lake and other places, just in these recent months. , just in thes recent months. recent months. -had enough? -no... arthritis. here. new aspercreme arthritis. full prescription-strength? reduces inflammation? thank the gods. don't thank them too soon. kick pain in the aspercreme. it's our veteran's day sale on the sleep number 360 smart bed. it senses your movements and automatically adjusts to relieve pressure points. don't thank them too soon. and its temperature balancing so you both sleep just right.
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we will -- falling short on testing, falling short on equipment, and falling short on a clear and consistent message from local state and federal authorities. >> i know that guy, i know that chair, in fact. more from the documentary storm like that airs sunday on pbs thankfully still with us is art cohen. art talk about local news, i'm obviously a big believer in it. i think for civics, a sense of civics in our society is essential. it's been tragic to watch these kind of hedge fund group owners, snapped the money out of local news operations, destroy them in affects, and leave them a shell of the way they found them. talk about the challenge, the need for a local news during a pandemic, while running a small family business that has been as affected by the pandemic as anything else in town. >> well yeah, during the
pandemic, advertising just dropped through the floor it went to zero, and we were having a tough time going into the pandemic, so so the news paper industry has been in decline for basically my entire adult career. and it just has been hastening with the internet, and craigslist, and so on. and facebook and google. and youtube. so we need to make eye transition, but were consumed by printing your newspaper and devoting resources to that, it's been very difficult for us. and so, we've been losing money, and we realize that we've got -- we started a non profit foundation, called the western aisle journal foundation to get tax deductible donations to help independent family-owned
newspapers in western iowa survive this pandemic, for starters. and we have been a critical source of information when people are trying to find out what's going out at the case and meatpacking plant, how many people are infected, we were the ones who would be either on the door trying to find out and we were confronting the governor's office and local public health officials to keep people apprized of what the score was. and, it was a terribly confusing time for us, because of all the obstruction. that was, for no apparent reason. it was a terrible time, financially for us. we've pence back, advertising has bounce back a little bit. but it's not going to come back all the way to where was. so we're going to have to start raising funds to support local journalism, and it's happening
in very interesting ways across the country. from the salt lake tribune to the philadelphia inquirer to the seattle times. and we hope that might be a solution, and it appears that it is but the response to this documentary has been tremendous. and that's a good start in broadening conversation. >> i hope the folks watching tonight will check out the documentary, bless you for the work you're doing, we wish you well there. aren't cullen has been our guest tonight, there it is, storm like, a newspaper, a family, my community. pbs our thanks. coming up, it may be a test of how much you can get away with, without consequences. without consequences
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bannon on his podcast today. he received a presidential pardon but it doesn't apply to insurrection. so, he will face the music on a monday, the feds allowing him to enjoy his weekend as a courtesy, apparently. with the pace of news and everything that's been going on, everything at play on one six. you may wonder how involved could bannon have been in the insurrection effort. well, this may help. >> it's not going to happen how you think it's going to happen, it's going to be quite extraordinarily different. and all i can say is strap in, but will have a policy, you have made this happen in tomorrow's game day. his first terms ending with action, and a second term is going to start with a bang. that, we can guarantee you. and so the fights in. this is a huge weekend, there's so much going on behind the seeds, i had some of the fight, riding towards a historic day, the 6th of june, is a massive
rally, people are getting fired up, people are getting matter, as they should. you know what happened to be on a call last night, you are walking through it, can you just walk people through what the framework is for this week? >> a lot of tough armory is down there, i saw them when we had meetings down, there they were still up and going, they were still reviewing their plans for the day at one or two in the morning. we help provide the information to people are jacked up, all going to converge at that point on the six. we're all going to converge there. we've just got to impose our will, like in football, you've got impose your will on the opposition. we are heard lean towards a historic event on january six, were hurdling toward something that is going to -- it's going to be complicated, and it's going to be nasty. nothing could be more turbulent than what's going on this week, we want everyone in the atlantic region to come, you've got to be there, this is going to be a historic move. this is like towards how the republic fell, right, and became a totalitarian, or authoritarian empire.
we are at that moment, and that's what this week is. are we going to affirm the massive landslide of donald j trump, or are we going to turn over the constitutional republic, so the forces of darkness. there is a constitutional crisis going on, people don't understand. after hours ron scraping, we put these out to all these counties and all these patriot groups around, and conservative groups who see-through with the fog of war and this half clarity, that january six was gonna be the day, or one of these big days, everything when you conversion general six. this is a wound that will not heal, we're hurtling towards a constitutional crisis that is going to make the impeachment look like a sunday picnic, this is going to be a historic day. we're going to be a part of history, we want as many people to get here as possible. 48 hours away consequential moment in history. we >> medium at or's with a collection of some of steve bannon's greatest has to take
us off the air tonight, and with that, that is our broadcast for this friday evening and for this week. with our thanks for being with us, unless you have other plans. on behalf of all our colleagues at the networks of nbc news, goodnight. news, goodnight. gone, dead, murder. >> the bill have any problems with? anyone >> he had an affair a couple of years ago. >> he believes that there is this lady out there. >> someone starts tapping on the window. >> i see the guy for a weekend, and now he's murdered, and he's coming for me. >> there was anger around those that did not go away. >> why is this happening? who did this? >> did you shoot your dad? >> why would you out? that >> would actually happened that night? >> i'm not sure