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ireless so good, it keeps one-upping itself. take the savings challenge at xfinitymobile.com/mysavings or visit an xfinity store to learn how our switch squad makes it easy to switch and save hundreds. all right, that is going to do it for us for tonight. we will see you again tomorrow. again, tomorrow, likely to be kind of a weird day. the first time we've ever had to commemorate an event like the january 6th attack. no one knows what tomorrow will be like but we will be here tomorrow to help you understand it. now it's time for "the last word" with lawrence o'donnell. >> good evening, rachel. i think you remember exactly 24 hours ago at this moment, i told you who -- know you don't -- >> [laughs] >> 24 hours ago is too long. let me remind you that 24 hours ago, this moment, i told you that cher would be on the show
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when she was. and you, you gave me an order for cher. >> [laughs] >> i want to show you, if you have 20 seconds, how that played out. take a look. >> please do. >> she left a message for you at the beginning of this hour and she gave me disorder, to please tell you, and these are her exact words, hello and i love you. that's from rachel maddow. >> well, i don't drink but i would have a cocktail with her. [laughs] >> >> when should i schedule that, rachel? >> so here's how this played out in my life. i'm going about my business, taking the dogs on a late night walk. and i get a -- because, you know, the dogs need to go out -- i was taking the dogs on a late night walk and i get a call from my mother. now usually i get a text, my mom is a big text or.
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you get a call, that means someone has died or someone needs rescuing or this is urgent. my mom calls me and says, when are you having cocktails with cher? to which i say, i can't believe lawrence did it! >> did? what didn't you just say, you have to have cocktails with shear? you get to have cocktails with share! it was one of the weirdest dog walks i've had a long time but also one of the weirdest moments. thank you. >> i will pour the pell agree no for share cher and you make whatever that thing is you make. >> i have a feeling my mom is going to hide herself somewhere on my person in order to be there. >> we will try to make it all happen. >> thank you lawrence. [laughs] >> thank you rachel, thank you. thank you rachel, twell, on thy when you were go, probably right now, sean hannity was
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anxiously testing donald trump's chief of staff mark meadows, saying, i'm very worried about the next 48 hours. unfortunately for the country, sean hannity was sending a text to the weakest and most criminally inclined of the trump white house chief of staff. mark meadows had already engaged in a phone call with donald trump to georgia secretary of state a call that was clearly criminal in nature, a violation of state and federal law on election interference. the whole country had already heard the audiotape of that criminal phone call. sean hannity heard the audiotape of that phone call, which is now being investigated by a grand jury in georgia. he heard the audio tape of that phone call to georgia secretary of state and that may be why shawn hand these texts to mark meadows are filled with fear that donald trump does not know
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what he is doing and that mark meadows does not know what he is doing. we know now that, thanks to bob woodward and robert costa's reporting in their book peril, that donald trump already knew that the white house counsel was already threatening to quit over criminal attempts to change the outcome of the presidential election. on this night, exactly one year ago, sean hannity texted mark meadows, pence pressure, white house counsel will leave. mark meadows already knew that. sean hannity knew that mark meadows knew that but at this hour, one year ago, sean hannity was desperately trying to get the weakest white house chief of staff in history to step up to a deranged presidents and do the right thing, say the right thing. it was on this day, when you're ago, that mike pence told donald trump in the oval office that he was not going to violate the law and attempt to
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reject electoral votes submitted to congress the next day. in that meeting, on this evening, one year ago, in the white house, donald trump told mike pence -- what do you think, mike? trump asked. look, i've read this, and i don't see a way to do it. i've done everything i could and then some to find a way around this. it's not possible. my interpretation is, no. i've met with all of these, people pence said. they are all on the same page. i personally believe these are the limits to what i can do. so, if you have a strategy for the sixth, it really shouldn't involve me because i am just there to open the envelopes. you should be talking to the house and senate. your team should be talking to them about what kind of evidence they are going to present. no, no, no, trump shouted. you don't understand, mike. you can do this, i don't want to be your friend anymore if you don't do this. you are not going to be sworn
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in on the 20th, there is no scenario in which you can be sworn in on the 20th, pence said. we need to figure out how to deal with it, how we want to handle it. how we want to talk about it. >> you've betrayed us, i made you. you were nothing, trump said. your career is over if you do this. >> pence did not budge. >> in a series of tweets today, robert costa reviewed some of the developments of this day, when you are go, that we did not know about then, including that rudy giuliani even wanted to go to the vp's home and give him a talking to, late on january 5th. pence eventually has dinner that night at residents with several supporters and donors. giuliani doesn't go over. but strikingly, and not to be forgotten, trump campaign issues a late statement saying that pence agrees with trump's position on election. stuns pence and his advisers.
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that is the pressure on pence that sean hannity was afraid of. that is what sean hannity was advising donald trump not to do. robert costa writes, as midnight approached, people in the streets were yelling and delighted and almost euphoric about trump taking back the election. trump soon called giuliani and then called steve bannon. he was very arrogant, trump said of pence. trump's four words were sobering. it was trump explaining away a deal gone bad. pence was not going to break. if mike pence was arrogant, that meant trump's push was dead. very arrogant, trump reported. trump kept tweeting into the night. the january six committee wants to hear all about this from mike pence. >> his life was in danger. i would hope that he would do the right thing and come forward and voluntarily talk to
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the committee. you know, everybody there did not have a security detail. so we would like to know, what his security detail told him was going on. and what's all went on. i think it is important that the person needs to know. this was the number two person in government. >> tonight, the january six committee has been meeting with someone who is a witness to some of what happened on january 5th and january 6th, in the trump white house. stephanie grisham publicly resigned on the night of january 6th after the attack on the capitol and tweeted her resignation at one 7: 59pm. she made history as the only white house secretary to only not speak with the press. --
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in an insurrection at the capital. and a criminal conspiracy to violate election law. stephanie grisham first served as a white house press secretary, her first final position was chief of staff to melania trump, along with her husband donald, did nothing while the team capitol was being attacked. melania trump did not do what sean hannity tried to do one hand the sent a text to mark meadows, telling him, ask people to peacefully leave the capitol. during president trump's attempt to violate election law, trump apparently took more advice from china have hand these advertisers than he did from sean hannity. pillow salesman mike lindell is apparently under investigation by the january six committee. in an interview with cnbc, the pillow sales and said he
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received a notice from verizon about the subpoena for phone records from november through early january. leading off our discussion tonight is congressman adam schiff, member of the house select committee investigating the january 6th attack on the capitol and chair of the house intelligence committee. thank you very much for joining us congressman schiff, we appreciate it. in>> great to be with you, no lawrence. >> i've been linking up sean hannity's texts, as your committee has revealed them, with the reporting we have from bob woodward and robert costa and other sources. trying to link up what else was happening while those texts were being hunted into the white house by sean hannity. but i assume you probably, by now, have a fairly precise tiktok of january 5th and january 6th, with all of the witnesses you have been talking to. >> that's one of the things we
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have been working on from the beginning, to try to fill in the sequence of these messages and these conversations and of these events, so that we can see them in their chronological order and i understand that one relates to another. but i think, lawrence, what you very well described why hannity as well as the vice president are such important potential witnesses. clearly, hannity was privy to information about the possibility of white house counsel leaving as a result of the pressure put on pence. he was concerned about what would happen the net next 48 hours, in the following day. and what's more, the vice president, the subject of this pressure campaign, is probably in the very best position to talk about all of those who are reaching out to him, including the president, trying to get him to ignore his constitutional duty.
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their testimony could very well inform our committee, the country about how to protect ourselves going forward. and, you know, we hope that both will decide to cooperate. >> sean hannity has remained silent about your request for his cooperation. what have you heard from sean hannity's lawyer? >> i cannot comment on any communications between our staff and his lawyer or other counsel. but i can say, look, we are not interested him, though he's council makes public remarks. we are not interested in his public remarks. we are interested in him as a witness and what observe communications he had in that capacity. this is someone who is a strategist for the president, who campaigned for the president, he did a lot of things that are not journalistic in nature that he
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should feel free to talk about. and we hope he will. >> on vice president pence's testimony, do you -- would you expect that he would be able to discuss, for example, what was happening to him during the attack on the capitol because there are some security concerns involved in protecting the information about how a vice president is protected in a situation like that. >> if he is willing to sit down with us that's exactly the type of thing we would work out with him and with his lawyer jay sekulow to figure out whether there are any sensitivities and make sure we get the information we need, without compromising anything that would be needed to protect a future vice president. but clearly wet is at the central core of our investigation is not a category. it is that pressure campaign on
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him to violate his constitutional duty, why the president's role was, or where it originated, and what players were involved in that effort to subvert the will of the american people through the franchise. none of those things would compromise his safety or that of any future vice president. >> i'm going to talk to lawrence tribe in a moment about the attorney general speech today. but i'm wondering if the attorney general is waiting to move on an investigation of donald trump and others in terms of the insurrection, waiting for your work to be complete. do you see any reason why the attorney general should or would wait for your work on the committee to be complete? no, not at all. and i don't agree with that speculation. in my experience, the justice department as congress in that
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way. it doesn't itself referred to congress in terms of moving forward to potential investigation or prosecution. and i hope that it is certainly not the case. they ought to be thoroughly investigating any substantial allegation of criminality surrounding the effort to overturn the election. look, i am very proud -- and i think we got to see today that there is once again a man of great integrity running that department. i would've loved to have heard him say that not only is he focused on the violent attack on january six but also on other efforts to potentially violate criminal laws to subvert the election. including one that you've mentioned frequently. which is the effort in georgia. the president, on the phone with the secretary of state of georgia, trying to get him to stuff the ballot box effectively with 11,780 votes that don't exist. that needs to be investigated.
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they can be waiting for congress on that. they shouldn't be waiting on the county da on that. i could tell you, when i was in the attorney's office nelly, there was a case of that kind of national significance, you would never deferred to the local district attorney. so, it does concern me that there was no mention of the broader multi layered effort to subvert our constitution and our election process. that too needs to be investigated. >> congressman adam schiff, thank you very much for starting off our conversation tonight. >> thank you. >> coming, up harvard law professor is asking for more, much more from attorney general. laurence tribe. he will tell us what the attorney general had to say today. that is next. day. that is next y pay for what you need. isn't that right limu? limu? limu? sorry, one sec. doug blows several different whistles.
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investigation in history. >> as of today, we have arrested and charged more than 725 defendants in nearly all 50 states and the district of columbia for the roles in the january 6th attack. in charging the perpetrators, we have followed well warned prosecutorial practices. those who assaulted officers or damage the capital face greater charges. those who conspired with others to obstruct the vote count also faced greater charges. the justice department remains committed to holding all january six perpetrators at any level accountable under law. whether they were present that they or were otherwise criminally responsible for the assault on our democracy. we will follow the facts wherever they lead. to ensure that all those
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responsible are held accountable, we must collect the evidence. we followed the physical evidence. we followed the digital evidence. we followed the money. those involved must be held accountable. and there is no higher priority for us at the department of justice. >> joining us now is laurence tribe, university professor reconstitution of law at harvard law school. he has won 35 cases in the united states supreme court. professor tribe, what did you hear in that speech today? >> i heard a person of great principle and integrity, very smart. i heard him describe one important set of investigations going from the ground up and from the boots to the suits in terms of the january six perpetrators. it is important that he do that. but i heard absolutely nothing, nothing about the larger plot
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to overturn the election. that was not january six. january 3rd was the day on which the president, then president, twisted the arm of raffensperger. late december he was doing things with people like jeffrey clark. that broader plot was plenty. plan b was the one they had to resort to with the violence of the capitol. you know, it doesn't necessarily -- you don't work your way up from the people who smashed windows to arm twisting which inflicted violence throughout a broader plot. it doesn't necessarily take a long time to build a case for seditious conspiracies. in fact, i was looking it up, in march of 1954, ten puerto rican separatist stormed the capitol and they were prosecuted. not for violating the physical
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space, they were prosecuted for [inaudible] conspiracy. a year later, they were sentenced to 16 to 75 years in jail. a year later. you don't have to move slowly when the clock is ticking. the clock is ticking here. i agree very much with adam schiff. there is no basis for the attorney general to be waiting on that broader investigation. and yet, the scary thing is, there is simply no indication that the department of justice is investigating that broader plot. i hope to heaven that it is. but there's no indication of. it -- right now there's a reason not to be too confident. >> and that left us hanging on every word as it were. including that phrase, follow the money. which is interesting but
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doesn't reveal much. and then he used the phrase, one of those being, those who conspired with others to obstruct the vote. now that vote, that group could include donald trump. but what more specific notes would be able to say within justice department policy about the comment on ongoing investigations? >> well he certainly was not right to say that we are investigating donald trump. when he could've said was, we are investigating not only the events that occurred at the capitol and whatever mediately led up to the attack on the capital but we are investigating the facts that bear on a broader attempt to overturn the vote. to claim that the election was stolen. and to overturn the vote and make sure that the duly elected president would not take
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office. we are looking at that. we are trying to figure out who was responsible for it. we are following the money. we are following the digital evidence. we are looking at all of. it but there was nothing. that would've been inappropriate. in fact, the department of justice guideline saying that it is quite appropriate in the discretion of the attorney general to give confidence to the nation that an important event is being investigated. that important event, nothing could be more important than a plot to prevent the peaceful transition of power to the duly elected president. it's being investigated. it's being investigated completely in the dark. and we are left to have nightmares about the fact that by the time the attorney general gets there, it will be too late. we have midterm elections coming up. there are all kinds of reasons not to want to investigate president too close to the next election. the clock is ticking. and the stakes could not be
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higher. so in that way, i was disappointed with what the attorney general said. i very much agree with adam schiff. both adam and merrick were former students of mine at different times. and it was interesting to see one commenting on the other. they are both very smart. but here i agree more with adam than i do with merrick garland. >> well, merrick garland has not finished the assignment yet. so we will watch and wait and find out more as we go. harvard law professor, laurence tribe thank you very much for joining us tonight. we always appreciate it. >> thank you lawrence. >> coming up, montana senator jon tester who has been in the room negotiating with joe manchin will join us on the situation with voting rights legislations in the senate. and we will begin with the single most ignored government policy that john tester worries about every day. senator tester joins us next.
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isn't capitalism. it's exploitation. >> that was president joe biden in a virtual meeting on monday, sounding to some like he was speaking with alexandria ocasio cortez his constituents in new york city. that kind of critique of capitalism would be very well received with them. let's see how it was received in that meeting. >> this is on the minds of all our farmers and ranchers throughout the country and not since teddy roosevelt have we had a president that is willing to take on this big issue. so thank you very much for that. >> not since republican president teddy roosevelt over 100 years ago. most washington pundits have told you repeatedly that democrats just don't know how to talk to voters in rural, farm states and most of those pundits have never been to those states and never bothered
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to listen to what most democrats say and do about foreign policy. those same pundits will insist to you that only republicans understand the importance of agriculture. the oklahoma farmer, who you just heard praising president biden, had this to say about donald trump last year. ultimately, my bottom line looks about the same as it did pre-trump trade war, but much of that income came in the form of trump's bailout. those are subsidies that i would not have needed if the trade war hadn't happened. i'm grateful for the dollars to keep my farm afloat. but i'd much rather earn those dollars then be given them. the trade war has-limited my and other farmers ability to earn. during this election year, you will have pundits describing democratic party politics and governments exclusively from the perspective of the most
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liberal and urban democrats, which also happens to be the perspective of where those pundits actually live. as an example of the wide range of governing issues that the president and the democratic party face every day, we are focusing here tonight on the single most ignored policy issue in the washington news media, agriculture policy. and as our guide we are joined now by farmer jon, as in farmer jon tester, senior senator from montana who spends some of everyday worrying about his family farm and the other family farms in america. senator, thank you very much for joining us, we appreciate it. >> great to be here lawrence and i appreciate the topic. thank you. >> i want to know the point the president was making at the beginning about capitalism without competition being exploitation. he was talking there about the
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food supply chain, specifically the meatpacking and meat processing business. what is his point about that? >> his point is that when you only have a few players in the business, there isn't real competition. and for capitalism to work you have to have competition. for far too long, my entire lifetime, we have had too much consolidation in the meat industry. and the statistics bear it out. 82 or 84% of the meat and beef is controlled by four companies. that's not competition. that is not how capitalism is supposed to work. and so, look, the one guy brought up teddy roosevelt. president roosevelt back 100 years ago, you know, it did some things, carried a big stick and beat up some of those packers. the truth is that today the beef industry is far more consolidated now than it was back then. and who is paying the price for this? your operator zoe are going
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broke because of this. and small and medium sized feeders are going broke. so there are some things to be done and i applaud the president. congress needs to step up and do some things as well to put some competition back in the marketplace. competition back in>> i want te president is doing because he has the money to do it already in the american rescue plan. he is devoting a billion dollars in this arena. and one thing he is targeting is developing a workforce to help supply, possibly, more independent meat processing plants and making the point we need a well trained workforce to do that. there is some reporting indicating that -- that i have read in the montana press, for example, about the lack of qualified cutters who are out there to work in these plants and how do we get the
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larger workforce available? >> what president biden has done is two things. invest in brick and mortar facilities, more meatpacking plants. and invest in workforce, get more folks trained, who know how to cut meat and meet the needs out there. we also need to have teeth in the packers. so that when these big packers lower their prices and undercut some of these meatpackers out there and put them out of business, there has to be transparency there so that we can see that so that we can enforce the laws of that that does not happen. the combination of those two things, i think, are game-changers for folks in production agriculture. and if we are able to do that, if we are able to do some things with the spot pricing bill, a bill that fischer and grassley and myself and others have, we can do some things
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with putting teeth into the packers, with the investigators, and we can do some things with country of origin labeling, that's another bill we have -- then i think we are well underway to making sure that competition in the marketplace and making sure that the small and medium sized operators don't go broke. because if they go broke our whole supply chain goes for the worst and our consumers are going to pay a lot more for their products and we are seeing that already. and so it is time for congress have to act. the president has acted. i applaud his actions. now congress needs to step up and meet our end of the bargain as well so that we can keep our food chain secure. this is not national security, this is about rural economy, this is about a lot of things. >> you made the point there about meatpackers lowering their prices. i want to make sure for the
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audience that i grew up with, in cities like boston, who didn't know where the nearest farm was, you are talking about the prices that the meatpackers pay to the farmer. not with the meatpackers then turn around and charge as that food moves its way through the food chain. >> i am actually talking about both. i'm talking about prices paid to the former, that puts them out of business, that -- produces, that puts them out of business. i'm also talking about the competition side of things. and this is where the packers can be enforced as well. on the competition side of things, the big packers have the ability, the financial ability to, sell at a loss, so they can undercut some small processes processors long enough that it can put them out of business. that's illegal and it shouldn't happen. if we can put more teeth into packers and stock yards, we can --
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it's not only the guys in production agriculture in rural america who would be the winner, it would be everyone. right now we are beholden to four companies on the beef side of things that is going to ruin food security in this country. that's not an overstatement. that's a fact. so we need to act. >> and as we are watching prices go up, meat prices go up this year, the price to the producer, to the actual farmer who produces, has gone down. when we look at that number that we are looking at in the supermarket, on that package of meat and how much it costs, the actual farmers share of that number that we see has been going down. >> absolutely correct. it has gone down to the point now where it is -- the profit margin is not there to stay in business. it's why you are seeing, you know, people who have been in the business for generations going, look, i don't think that
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we can move this farm on to the next generation or this ranch on to the next generation. because there just is not enough money to pay the bills. these folks are getting squeezed out of business by a very consolidated marketplace. it can change. but laws have to be enforced. in order for laws to be enforced we have to do with the president announced a couple of days ago and then we need to get some of the bills passed to the presidents desk, that i just talked about. if we are able to do that i think it will create a situation where rural america won't continue to dry up and there will be a future for the next generation of farmers and ranchers on the land. i think that that is really important for this country. >> senator, you are one of america's political wizards in addition to being the policy leader in this area. and your political wizardry is such that you are able to get elected as a democrat in the state of montana, which
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increasingly has become kind of a magic act. that also allows you to have a unique perspective on the challenges facing someone like joe manchin, elected as a democrat and a trump supporting state like west virginia. you've been in conversation with senator manchin. you know a lot of his thinking. u knowas we approach this vote senator schumer has promised on voting rights, which could require a vote on changing senate rules to remove a 60 vote threshold to get to a vote on voting rights, what do you believe is going to happen when senator schumer brings this to the senate floor? >> i hope it passes. fair and secure elections, free elections, are fundamental to our democracy. and i hope it passes. i think what we've seen in many of the state legislatures around this country is trying to prohibit certain groups of people from voting by making it miserable to vote or just
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purging them off the rolls. i don't think we can stand for that at the federal level. this democracy is based on people who are able to go to the polls and vote. and hopefully this bill will pass when schumer brings it up. because i think it's really fundamentally important if our democracy is going to move forward for generations to come. i think it is a bedrock principle. >> do you have a sense of how senator manchin and senator roy sinema are going to vote? >> that's a better question for them. there are win questions and conversations going on between myself and others. senator manchin and senator sinema are friends of mine and hopefully they will see that the right to vote is fundamental and i hope they will support it. but there are still some time to talk, though i don't know what will happen yet. >> senator manchin stresses the
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importance of bipartisan support in this area. but you've demonstrated what's bipartisan legislation looks like an agriculture and you've done that repeating me repeatedly. >> yes, look, i think bipartisanship is good. you remember from your days on the hill, things have changed, lawrence. they've changed a lot. the filibuster has been weaponized. one person has veto power over the entire senate. that's not with the forefathers had in mind. so i do think that going back to the days where minority rights are protected but we have a thing called a talking filibuster, i think that would be beneficial to the minority and the majority and i think it would help bring people together in a bipartisan way if we are able to present these rules in a way that forces people to be on the floor, if you want to stop a bill, you can, but you have to be on the floor to do it. you can't just walk off the floor and go home. that's really what we are
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looking at. and in the case of voting rights, lawrence, i think that free and fair elections are very, very important to this democracy and i think we've seen, since january 6th, since a year ago tomorrow, we have seen state legislatures do their darndest to keep people from voting. i don't think that that's what most americans want to see and i think that if we are able to get a good voting bill passed, if we are able to do some things with the filibuster that protects minority rights, yet forces participation, i think that that is all positive for our democracy. i think it's also positive for bringing this country together so that they can see how a senate is supposed to work. what they've seen for the last ten years is a senate that does not work well at all. that's one reason our ratings are in the tank. >> senator jon tester, thank you very much for joining, us appreciate it. >> thank, you lawrence, appreciate it, thank you.
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presidency, joe biden might have zero confirmed federal judges as of tonight. everything president biden and the democrats have accomplished in congress he's thanks entirely to the voters of georgia delivering to democrats to the united states senate. today, the white house announced on tuesday january 11th, president biden and vice president harris will travel to georgia to speak to the american people about the urgent need to pass legislation to protect the constitutional right to vote and the integrity of elections from corrupt attempts to strip law-abiding citizens of their fundamental freedoms and allow partisan state officials to undermine vote counting processes. joining us now is lauren groh-wargo, manager of stacey abrams current campaign for governor of georgia. thank you very much for joining us tonight. the president is going to
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georgia next week to talk about these legislative attacks on the right to vote and the right to have your voted vote counted accurately. we are getting reports now from atlanta saying that the republicans in georgia are at it again. they actually want to add this year more voting restrictions and more control over the counting of votes in georgia. >> yes. the president is coming next week, tuesday, the second day of the georgia state legislative section, which is a lot of poetry coming the week after our anniversary of the big georgia runoff winds. and i'm really thrilled to be here with you during this international georgia blue holiday anniversary. we made it an international holiday. i recognize the good work done over the past years, that you've mentioned. and yes, in georgia and all over the country, state legislative sections sessions are starting backup, as they
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are here in georgia. and they are redoubling their efforts, right? they are committed to voter fraud lies and conspiracy theories at the expense of any other policy, platform or movement. so we are going to continue to see these attacks over the coming months in state legislatures around the country. we've seen state senators file bills in many cases. and we know in georgia there's a whole legislative agenda not focused on needs in this crisis but rather on political posturing and harm and racist -- to try to meet political ends on voter suppression. but here is the good news, lawrence. there is $100 million just in georgia alone that is going out over the next 13 weeks to put hospital workers and others into this crisis to support -- that would not have happened if georgia voters had not elected
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jon ossoff raphael warnock. brian kemp gets to give out that money but brian kemp would not have money to give out without those democrats successes. and governors have tools for this huge, massive wave that they are able to do. brian kemp and many others are not doing what they need to do and could do much more and our allowing hospitals to close during a pandemic. but i want folks, as we get into next week and the coming months, to really think about the hope that we have here in georgia and around the country, that we can see victories even with these insurmountable challenges, seemingly insurmountable challenges. >> raphael warnock has become the conscience of the senate. voting rights and voting rights legislation. we now know senator schumer has not been public about it -- he was public about it with rachel maddow tonight -- he has of tonight, only 48 votes in the senate for the possible rules change that
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would be necessary on the 60 vote threshold in order to get voting rights through. joe manchin and kyrsten sinema have not come around as of yet. what could be said to them? to make them understand what is at stake in georgia and around the country? some >> look, this is the most fundamental right in our country and in our democracy. and senator tester and others have said, the right to vote and the way the senate works, these are not in conflict. and many times over the course of the senate's history, the rules, they have changed. and there has been very good protections for simple majority votes to pass legislation on issue after issue. would i would say to them is set that aside for a moment and think about the future of this country. think about the fact that election workers are being threatened. voters are being purged from the roles. what kind of country do we want to leave for the next generation?
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and what is our duty as americans in this moment of crisis? to do the right thing. this is about patriotism. it is not about politics. this is about our democracy. this is about our people and hopes and dreams. this is about democrats, republicans and independents, new citizens to this country being able to express their hopes and dreams. this is a much bigger calling. and here in atlanta, as we march on to that mlk holiday and more, we demand that our senators take action. >> lauren groh-wargo, a thank you very much for joining us on this very important one year anniversary night for you and for stacey abrams and the political organization you've built in georgia, thank you very much. >> thank, you sir. >> thank you. tonight's last word is next. st word is next. to help block out food particles. so he can enjoy the game. super poligrip. as a dj, i know all about customization.
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the capitol in an insurrection hoping to hold the presidency illegally for donald trump. that is tonight's last word. the 11th hour starts right now. right n ow good evening once again. i'm ali velshi, they 351 of the biden administration. just an hour from now it will be exactly one year from the day we all watched in realtime as a mob march to the capitol. launched a siege on the building and then tried to stop the duly elected president from being formally declared the winner of the election. it was a scene most of us could never imagine happening in america. earlier today, one of the capitol police officers who took the brunt of the attack from supporters of donald trump summed up where things stand a year later. >> it was hard to believe that it's been a year but here we are still trying to figure out exactly what happened.