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i'm alicia menendez, and we begin this hour with what the world is saying about us. they worry other democracy is being dismantled, while republicans would have you believe, falsely, that one of the greatest threats to our democracy comes from our neighbors at the south. while our neighbors from the north believe it comes from us. a 2025 american democracy could collapse, causing extreme, domestic, political instability, including widespread violence, by 2030, the country could be governed by a right wing dictatorship. some believe a terrible krifl civil war is looming. now former president urging
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supporters to fight like hell for that mob stormed the capitol to overturn an election. and since that day, extremism has still grown. republicans have still refused to accept that president biden is in fact our president and working day in, day out to rig the system for next time. npr analysis finds this year's secretary of state races, at least 15 republican candidates question the legitimacy of president biden's 2020 win, despite 14 months of proof that there was no widespread voter spread. on msnbc, it was said that it is a trend to worry about. >> we know in 2024 there's going to be an attempt to change the results of the election from one of the swing states. we know that. now we have to prepare, what are we going to do about it? we need to have people to defend the democracy first, who will take the responsibility of overseeing the election seriously and not these kind of
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cultists in many ways who it doesn't matter what the results are, who will try to find a way that donald trump won. >> helping fuel it all, unwillingness among republicans to call january 6 what it was. in the 12 months since the attack, they have called rioters tourists, even peaceful patriots. senator ted cruz is apologizing for calling what happened a terrorist attack. he's saying sorry for telling the truth, bowing to pressure from his base and fox news. republican voters are buying into. and npr finding only 10% willing to call it an attempted coup or insurrection. with global faith waning and our democracy hanging in the balance, how to we save ourselves? joining me now, former fbi assistant director and a msnbc
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contributor. even as i was reading that script, it still continues to shock me that we find ourselves in this moment where we have other countries questioning the validity, the strength of our democracy. i want to bring in a piece that you wrote for msnbc daily. you wrote that the november midterm elections may term as more than just a reflection of which party voters want to control congress. it may also be a test of much of our law enforcement and domestic security agencies have led from the lapses that led to last year's january 6 u.s. capitol riot. donald trump will be on any ballot in the midterms. his strategy to sow confusion could serve as a template for terror, particularly if he or his cronies are facing indictment for what happened last january. given all that, how should law enforcement be preparing right now for future elections? >> well, first they need to
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acknowledge reality. no one can look in the law enforcement and intel community can look at what hand on january 6 and declare that a success, right? why, what happens next? how do we get out ahead of this, and that comes down to anticipatory intelligence. what does that mean? let's look on the short-term horizon. we know from accountability over 700 arrests for those who participated in the january 6 violence that the proud boyce boys and other organizations have decided to go local. perhaps around the issue of certifying extremely close u.s. senate races in some key states, and i cite what those states might be.
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and start equipping local county and state law enforcement to start identifying the threats. bottom line is, we need to get the fbi in a position where they can help local and state law enforcement by what i explained in the article are called threat assessments. it appears a threat assessment was not open for ratifying the electoral college vote. i've seen threat assessments opened for far less than that. and we need to anticipate events like the elections, open a threat assessment. >> how is that even possible, frank? >> i'll go a step forward. not only does it appear a threat assessment wasn't open, but they declare a national security event for things like the super bowl, a football game every year, but the peaceful transfer of power was not treated with a threat assessment, which would have allowed the fbi to gather open-source data from where?
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social media, collect source information. you can do that. let's think ahead, work with social media platforms, give them keywords and phrases tied to that coming event. it can all be done lawfully if they'll just get out in front of it. >> jill, there is preparing for what is forthcoming and accountability for what has already occurred. the department of justice has indicted 700 people if connection with the riot. what do each of those prosecutions tell americans about the rule of law and paying the price for what is an attempted coup? >> i agree that accountability is the first step toward stopping the occurrence of january 6, but the accountability of those who invaded the capitol is not enough. >> yes. >> it does tell us that the rule of law will count and you will pay a price for a violent attack on democracy.
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and remember, this was not just an attack on the building. it was an attack to stop the counting of the votes. that's an attack on democracy. but there are other things equally accountable. the phone call to georgia is a prime example. in addition to accountability, we need to have voting rights passed so that voters do not lose faith in the promises that were made to get them to the polls to begin with, and because it's the right thing to do to have voting rights passed. we also need to stop the disinformation that is so rampant. we have to reform social media. we have to teach in our schools critical thinking skills so that people learn to understand what is true and what is false. until we have a common set of facts, we can't have a democracy. and right now we can argue
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policy, but we can't do it on the basis of our own facts. we have to come to some agreement on facts. and we need to have smart goals that are strategically and tactically planned, so that they are achievable and time bound. they're relevant to what we need. they are achievable. it has to be something that we put a time frame on. not just an aspirational goal of fixing our democracy. we need the specifics of things like, teaching civil civics in schools and critical thinking. those are specific acts that we can take to help prevent another january 6. >> frank, to jill's point of arguing over facts which is where we find ourselves in this current environment, i want to bring back a new npr poll showing 10% of republicans are willing to describe january 6 as
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attempted coup or insurrection. those who whitewash the reality of what happened, how does that fuel extremism? >> there's no question at that changing people's perceptions, their perception becoming their reality is becoming entrenched here, and it's a strategy moving forward, alicia. look at what's happening with replacement, violent threats against election officials, replacement of those election officials with people aligned with the trump base, and what is that about? it's about really controlling the election. and if you can't control the election, then they're going to control the perception of the results to the point where the actual fact that the vote tally, the vote count may not matter as much as people's perception of the vote count. if you can enhance the level of doubt around election outcomes, people get angered. violent, violently angered and understandably so. so this notion of i have my
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facts, you have your facts. we manage the perception. that's a strategy moving forward that's very dangerous. >> thank you for your time and your insights. jill, are you sticking with me. still ahead, governor abbott wants another chance in texas. do democrats stand a chance at defeating him? we'll ask senator castro after the break. and new developments ahead on "american voices." first to richard lui with the update on the bronx. >> it's described as the deadliest in several decades. in all, 19 people dead, nine of the victims are kid. let's go to kathy park who's on the scene with more. and kathy, what are you seeing right now? >> reporter: well, i can tell you dozens more are recovering from smoke inhalation. the fire broke out just before 11:00 this morning at this
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19-storey apartment complex. it was a five-alarm fire. at one point, 200 firefighters were on scene knocking down flames and rescuing residents. earlier, the fire commissioner described what may have sparked this deadly fire. take aist willen. >> it started in a malfunctioning electric space heater. that was the cause of the fire. the fire consumed that apartment that is on two floors and part of the hallway. the door to that apartment unfortunately, when the residents left, was left open. it did not close by itself. the smoke spread throughout the building. thus, the tremendous loss of life and other people fighting for their lives. >> reporter: and the fire commissioner added that there are smoke alarms installed throughout the building. in fact, a resident heard the alarm, saw the smoke and called for help right away, but still so many questions on what went wrong. back to you. >> thanks so much, kathy park there live for us. we'll have more details on this
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one of trump's biggest backers, texas governor greg abbott, wants another term. he believes hispanic voters in texas will keep texas red. >> and i'm proud of all the hispanic leaders who are a part of this, some of whom are from
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right here. others of whom are from across the entire state of texas. all of whom are doing a fabulous job of spreading the message that in the heart of hispanics, they really are republicans. and together they will keep texas red! [cheers and applause] >> let's not forget as governor, abbott has railed against basic covid safety measures, you know, like wearing masks, signed measures into law that make it harder for texans to vote, like sb-1 and the map to favor republicans. is it enough to defeat abbott in the governor's race? joining us is former hud secretary castro.
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secretary castro, what did you make of that announcement? secretary castro, i think you're muted. i got to get you unmuted. >> there you go. >> there we go. >> my apologies. i was saying that it is clear that greg abbott and texas republicans believe that they have an opportunity in the valley of texas, which is heavily latino, heavily mexican-american, especially after what happened in november 2020, where trump overperformed in several counties in south texas. >> mm-hm. >> this also is nothing new, right? 20 years ago when george w. bush ran for reelection as governor in texas he got over 44% of the hispanic vote, so that's nothing new. what is new, though, is i think the heartburn among democrats, and a greater awareness now of the need to do all of the
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blocking and tackling in politics that it requires to make sure you're not taking that vote for granted. the good news is that the democratic candidate, former congressman beto o'rourke is spending a lot of time in the rio grand valley, has articulated a strong, bold agenda that will benefit all texans, but including latinos in texas and latinos still graph tait toward the democratic party in texas and nationally. but they can't take it for granted. >> this is exactly why i wanted to talk to you. the other piece of this that is interesting to me is as we have watched governor abbott cozy up to former president trump, so much of that discourse has been about his own national interest in running for president, when it comes to texas itself, that alignment with trump, there is
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certainly a portion of the electorate that that is going to mobilize in his favor. i have to imagine there's also a portion of the electorate that is going to mobilize to come out and vote against him. >> no doubt. look, during the trump years, we went from a texas that voted for mitt romney in 2012 by 16 points over barack obama to 2020, where trump only won the state by 5.5 points, the worst showing for a republican in 20 years. for greg abbott to cozy up to donald trump to win his primary w he has been doing and needs to do, he also risk pushing away hispanics and suburban texans who have powered the coalition to win congressional districts like lizzy fletcher's district in the suburbs of dfw and
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houston. it also risks any gains they think they may have made in the rio grand valley. so it is a balancing act on the republican side. it presents an opportunity for beto o'rourke and democrats to make investments in getting those votes in south texas and the suburbs that trump made available to them in the last years. >> got to ask you about another texan, senator cruz, i think all of our viewers have seen that clip. was his apology on fox news, what does it tell you? >> the most spineless politician in america. it was ironic that i'm here in san antonio, texas, the home of the alamo, and texas is known as the state where people have a bold attitude, they will go to any length to defend their cause, and texas has a senator,
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who is the weaseliest, spineless politician we have seen in a very long time. this is a man who won't stand up for anything. he wouldn't stand up for his family when donald trump attacked him, wouldn't stand up for his constituents when the winter storm happened but went to the ritz-carlton in cancun. and then calls january 6 a terrorist attack and gets called out by tucker carlson and grovels to the audience. he'll do anything to stand with that maga crowd, because he still thinks he's going to be president one day. >> thank you for talking all things texas with us. next, real troubles facial the trumps. new details into the investigations of his business and presidency. and later, look at the underbelly of far right politics in america. we discuss what it takes to
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to help block out food particles. so he can enjoy the game. super poligrip. i don't want to overstate this, because we've seen donald get away with so much, but even he at this point must be feeling the walls close in. >> new potential troubles for the trumps. the 1/6 committee is eyeing possible referrals for criminal conduct to the doj which could include evidence of a conspiracy by the former president. it's also suggested he's interested in what ivanka trump might have to say about the events of that day. letitia james subpoenaed ivanka and don jr. as part of her investigation into the former
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president's business practices. this after hitting the former president with a subpoena of his own late last year. where is this all heading? let's ask katie faang. the guardian reports that the select committee is also looking at whether trump oversaw an unlawful conspiracy that involved coordination between the political elements of the white house and extremist groups that stormed the capitol. kitty, what legal liability does that potentially pose for the former president? >> it spells it out pretty clearly. the idea that he could have been a co-conspirator, it's a fact-finding, truth-seek being body. its role is not to prosecute. but let's be frank. there have been two criminal referrals, but not for the actual underlying conspiracy that took place leading up to the fateful day of january 6.
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it's the non-compliance on the part of people like steve bannon and mark meadows. a lot of the ground work is being laid for potential prosecutions for people as high up the food chain as donald trump. but people critically, like ivanka trump and don jr. had director contact with the former president on january 6, but they are also privy to communications, text messages, et cetera, that would lay the foundation from an evidentiary standpoint to be able to prosecute them, maybe as well as other politicians as well as maybe donald trump. >> the possibility of a conspiracy charge is of course significant. but republican congressman liz cheney, a member of the committee also hinted they're looking at the possibility of obstruction and even wire fraud by the gop, given your proximity to watergate, what could this lead to? >> it could lead to additional
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charges. as katie correctly stated, the purpose of congress is to pass legislation to fill any gaps in existing laws. the purpose of criminal indictments is to hold accountable those who violated existing law. and the existing laws of conspiracy, for example, and obstruction are very viable for prosecution. so it would just mean there could be jail terms for any of the people involved in the conspiracies and january 6 is completely separate and apart of course from the business crimes that letitia james, the attorney general of new york is looking at. she's looking at whether there was false reporting of the value of properties to pay lower taxes while reporting higher values to get better loans. so it's a completely separate thing from what's happening in new york and what's happening at the january 6 committee, and
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what might be going on at the department of justice, which doesn't need a referral from the january 6 committee to bring any criminal cases for the wrongdoing of january 6. that they can do just based on the facts that are out there in public that we all can see in front of our eyes. >> katie, i love that i keep asking you both questions about the 1/6 committee, and you both of course want to talk about what's happening at doj, but i have to ask you, chairman bennie thompson wants to hear from ivanka. she urged her dad to intervene not once but twice. how could those efforts, combined with possibly cooperating with the committee, what would it mean for her dad? >> think about it. it's not just the idea that he conspired leading up to the events on january 6, critically on the day of january 6, what
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did he do to stop what was conspiring. this idea that he failed, that there was a dereliction of duty on the part of the former president of the united states to stop an insurrection in process, to stop a coup in process. of course if you're a co-conspirator in that coup. you're not going to stop it. you're going to foment it. if ivanka can confirm what they already talked about, the fact that they already have evidence. it's not that they need her. they already have evidence linking her to asking her father to stop this. if she neglects not to do it, she could be looking at a criminal referral as well. >> i have about 30 seconds left, your thoughts. >> i think it's time for action on the part of the attorney general of new york, the department of justice and public hearings by bennie thompson's
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committee. it is public hearings at that can bring facts to the floor at that can possibly persuade anybody on the fence. the people who listen only to fox news are lost to the world right now in terms of truth. but there are people, republicans and independents, who need to hear the facts, so i'd like to hear some public testimony by the people who know what donald trump did and didn't do, and we can go back to watergate and say what did the president know and when did he know it. >> jill, as i always as always appreciate spending time with you and your insights. out of all your absolutely gorgeous pins, this one is striking. go to twitter. jill is very good about sharing the rationale for which pin it is she wears. next, a jury of ghislaine maxwell's peers found her guilty, but now her lawyers are asking for that conviction to be
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ghislaine maxwell is a convicted sex offender, found guilty for fueling jeffrey epstein's predation of young girls. two of the jurors in her case recently spoke out saying they had experienced sexual abuse in
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their own lives. they told reporters they shared their experiences during deliberations with other jurors, and that has prompted maxwell's legal team to seek a new trial. katie faang is back with us. do her lawyers have a case here? >> they have a very, very high burden to convince a judge to grant a new trial. the rules are clear. in order to get a new trial, it is only if the interests of justice require that to happen. i know that sounds very vague and candidly, there is no definition within the actual rule of procedure as to whether it qualifies for that. but let's look at the law. the law says if a juror intentionally is dishonest or misleading that can be a basis for a new trial, but the judges ordered in this particular case for the parties to brief the issue, not actually bring the jurors yet for questioning, allow them to file legal briefs by january 19 in order to determine whether an evidentiary hearing is necessary. there's two different ways to be
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able to get rid of a juror during jury selection, one is for cause, meaning if that juror is not the right juror because they cannot be fair and impartial based upon the facts and the evidence or issues dealt with in the case, now if you're not honest about whether or not you have been a prior victim of sexual abuse. of course if the claims and charges are such as they are there is an argument the defense is making that that juror should not have been sitting for purposes of judgment of ghislaine maxwell. >> the nation's largest organization estimates there are over 500,000 people victimized. and is it reasonable to ask them to share that experience when they are called for jury selection? >> i'm going to answer your question by saying it is unreasonable to expect a juror to be able to set aside any of their prior experiences, even though they are required to sit
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in fair and impartial judgment of a defendant. being the victim of sexual abuse in and of itself is not a disqualifying factor. if can you listen to the evidence, apply to the law to the facts and you're able to do so you can sit in judgment. >> can you explain to me, katie, understanding that there is a very high bar to clear, how would a retrial even work in a case like this? >> well, a mistrial basically or a new trial would be granted. you'd have to pick brand new jurors, and here's the thing, though, when does that usually militate in the favor of the prosecution or the defense. now you have all this testimony by experts. when you do a brand-new trial all of that prior sworn
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testimony is completely free-for-all, meaning you can use it if you're the prosecutor or the defense attorney. but remember, the jury did not convict ghislaine maxwell for all of the counts that she was facing. they acquitted her for one of them, meaning that the jury was thoughtful in the way it looked at the evidence. we know it took a lot of time. they asked for the transcripts of the testimony. and i believe the judge is going to deny this motion for a new trial. >> and if they were granted the right to a retrial, would that leave more room, it must leave more room for the defense to find inconsistencies. >> absolutely, and that's exactly what i was talking about. this idea that they're going to start picking apart the prior testimony from these victims. they've already started doing it in the original trial, right? because they looked at the statements give ton law given to law
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enforcement. all of the pick apart defenses that were previously heard will be heard again. it's going to be under attack. >> thank you for walking us through this. we continue following the horrific breaking news from new york city. 19 confirmed dead after a fire ripped through a high rise in the bronx section of the city. nine of the victims are children. there are dozens of injuries to report as well. a number of them caused by smoke inhalation, from smoke billowing up to higher floor. it is one of the deadliest in 30 years. it was sparked by a malfunctioning space heater in a bedroom in a lower-floor apartment. mayor adams commending fire crews on the scene within moments of the blaze being reported. >> and to say thank you to the men and women who went in this building. some of these firefighters,
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they're, their oxygen, their oxygen tanks were empty, and they still pushed through the smoke. you can't do this if you don't feel attached to the city and this community. >> new york's governor kathy hochul saying she is horrified by news of the fire and her heart is with loved once of all those tragically lost. starting monday, we begin to rebuild. next a rare look at the dark underbelly of american politics. white supremacy, violence, and what could be helping those movements grow. and later the president's sixth tour of a climate disaster, saying we can no longer ignore reality. we can no longer ignore reality. psoriasi. now, there's skyrizi. 3 out of 4 people achieved 90% clearer skin at 4 months, after just 2 doses. skyrizi may increase your risk of infections and lower your ability to fight them. before treatment, your doctor should check you for infections and tuberculosis. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms such as fever,
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if charlottesville or the capitol attack didn't make it clear enough, we havera problem with extremism in this country.
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in the new season of "trafficked" on national geographic, taking us behind efforts to stop an underground, white supremacy movement, the host goes one on one with extremists and uncovers a direct line from the chat rooms they use to what unfolded inside the capitol one year ago. here's a chapter where a failure is broken down. >> america has two problems. number one, we don't want to believe that americans can be terrorists. and second, they definitely don't want to use the t-word if it's a white male. when you hear about the el paso shooter, nobody wants to talk about him being ideologically motivated. we pivot away and say he must have been a lone wolf and had mental issues. america's denial is just incredible. >> proof of that denial provided this past week by senator ted
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cruz, repenting on fox news for his sin of telling the truth about january 6th, claiming it was a mistake and sloppy for him to call what happened a terrorist attack. with me now, award-winning journalist, host and executive producer of "trafficked", my friend, marianna. tell us about the most surprising thing you learned in your reporting of this story. >> i think it's this idea that whenever there are these terrorist attacks in the united states, perpetrated by white supremacists that we tend to think of them as lone-wolf attacks, you think about the el paso shooting at the walmart center. and it was reported again and again in the media as a lone wolf attack, but what we've just discovered in our reporting that these groups, these people very much operate as part of a global operation where they share information, they inspire each other, and sometimes, as we found, there's also, they also
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train, they go to places such as ukraine to train, which is very scary. >> in your latest episode, season two of "trafficked", you really dig into this idea that no one is born to hate, that people are taught to hate. i want to you look at this look from usa today. of the 727 people arrested in connection with the capitol riot, nearly a quarter of them were found to have ties to extremist groups or ideologies. 79% had no explicit ties to extremist movements or groups, and our own data finding 13% of rioters arrested were women. how is all of this happening? >> it's so interesting. we spent time with a former neo-nazi, a skinhead called christian piccolini for this episode. he became a skinhead when he was younger, and now he is working very hard to try to deradicalize and get people out of these white supremacist movements. but it was a sense of
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disfranchisement of his case, didn't have a feeling that he belonged to anyone or anything. he didn't have a sense of identity, really. so he was approached by a skinhead when he was 16 years old on the coroner chicago, and he was easy bait. and with the internet, what's happening, as he put it, and we found as well, that the internet has become very much a 24/7 all-you-can-eat hate buffet, where it's way too easy for people to become radicalized. >> mariana, i think at this point a lot of us have a really good sense of the problem and the challenge before us. i think we are all desperate for is a sense of how we move forward, how we begin to eradicate this hate. is it an answer that comes from law enforcement? is it an answer that comes through policies? and answer that comes through protecting our right to vote? as you were reporting out this
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story, were there solutions? were there pathways forward for rooting out extremism that came to the surface? >> well, right now, the authorities just don't have the framework in place to go after these organizations and these groups. and that's a big problem. we spend time with a member of the division that is now called the national socialist order. they are advocating and trying and fighting for a whites only society, a whites only country. and some of the things he said to me, and he even showed me videos how they are distributing this material that is inciting violence and the killing of people, of minorities in this country. it was crazy. and the fact that if the fbi caught this video, there is not much they can do. they don't have the tools necessary to go after them, because these groups are not considered terrorist organizations. i don't think there is one single solution. i think it's a variety of things that need to be done, including the deradicalization of some of these groups in prisons which is knocked on in the united states.
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but i think we're very far from having solutions yet. and we have to become serious about this. >> my final question for you, can you talk to me just a little bit about what you heard about the role that politicians, elected officials, people with a national platform play? as experts often say to me, a lot of these conspiracy theories once came as they say the fever swamps. and now there are people in the u.s. house of representatives, in the u.s. senate who espouse these views on national television. that seems like it would be a powerful motivator for people who want to believe that their beliefs are valid. >> yeah. it's a gateway, right? it's an acceptance of some beliefs. it's not as if they're white supremacists themselves. but it is -- we spent time with the proud boys, for example, right before the invasion of the capitol, two months before.
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and some of the people we were with, including joe biggs was actually at the capitol. and, you know, they are not -- they're not like the division or some of these much more radical groups. but in many ways, it's sort of a gateway to acceptance to some of these belief, and this is what we heard again and again. >> mariana van zeller, thank you as always for your time. watch "trafficked" with mariana van zeller on national geographic and on hulu. next, a code red for america. ♪ ♪ so you won't have a medicare in the world. ♪ ♪ plus, 90-day refills and same day delivery. larry? that's even less to medicare about. fill your medicare prescriptions with walgreens and save. ♪ ♪ napoleon was born and raised to conquer.
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president biden visited colorado friday to survey damage from last month's wildfire in boulder county. taking time to speak with firefighters who worked tirelessly to fight the flames. the blaze destroyed nearly 1100 homes and businesses throughout two denver suburbs, forcing some 45,000 residents to flee, just days before a new year. authorities still working to name what sparked it. there's one undeniable factor that fueled it, our changing climate, leading to unusually wet conditions last spring in colorado, followed by an extremely dry and warm december. both factors are linked to global warming and provided perfect conditions for what we saw play out in boulder county. then adding insult to injury to those who lives went up in smoke, a winter wallop came new year's day. rubble still smoldering, dusted with snow. the role played in the marshall fire not lost on the president,
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which is his sixth climate disaster tour. here is what the president said after touring damage and sitting down with families affected, promising them help and action. >> the situation is a blinking code red for our nation because the combination of extreme drought, the driest period from june to december ever recorded, ever recorded. unusually high winds. no snow on the ground to start created a tinderbox, a literal tinderbox. we can't i nor the reality that these fires are being supercharged, being supercharged by a change in the weather. >> as highlighted by the guardian, the colorado disaster capped a catastrophic year for the u.s. in which at least 650 people died from climate disasters including heatwaves, hurricanes, fires and floods. measures to mitigate the climb
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crisis stalled in the senate. those who oppose it say we just can't afford it. we also can't afford to do nothing. that is all the time i have for today. i'm alicia menendez. i'll see you back here next weekend 6:00 p.m. eastern for more "american voices." but for now, i hand it over to mehdi hasan. hello, mehdi. >> hello, alicia. do you think "don't look up" on netflix will get to take climate change more seriously? >> i don't know. there are a lot of people suspicious of it as a proper allegory. after i watch your show, after i watch ayman's, maybe i'll be able to watch it. >> give it a try. i enjoyed it. have a great rest of your sunday. tonight on the "the mehdi hasan show," it's been one year since capitol police officer brian sicknick collapsed. i'll ask his long-time partner if she still holds the former president responsible for his deat

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