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republican filibuster. what happens after that, i don't know. we've previously been told to expect a vote on that tomorrow, but that's now been pushed back. we're not sure when the vote will happen, but the debate will start tomorrow. that's going to do it for us for now though. that's going it for us tonight. "way too early" with jonathan lemire is up next. senate democrats are set to begin debate on new voting rights protections today, even in the face of almost certain failure. the questions are why is chuck schumer forging ahead? what's the plan here? plus, we're learning dramatic new details about the hostage standoff inside a synagogue near dallas and how the rabbi and others were able to escape from the gunman. the question is why did this happen in the first place? and former president trump was asked what republicans should do if they take back congress? it seems he had little to offer by way of specifics. the question is does he have any actual ideas?
it's "way too early" for this. ♪♪ good morning and welcome to "way too early," the show that notes that the former president has never been known for his policy chops. i'm jonathan lemire on this tuesday, january 18th. we'll start with the news. the senate will begin voting onnen a pair of voting rights bills today despite strong backing from the white house that will likely fail to pass. the senate will convene this afternoon to begin debating but is not expected to hold a vote today. after debate on the bills begin, senate majority leader chuck schumer will move to end debate. that requires a filibuster-proof 60-vote margin, and that's when republicans are expected to block the bills. senator schumer said he'll put forward a bill on the filibuster change after it's used to block the voting rights legislation. >> the only path forward on this important issue is to change the
rules to bypass the filibuster, and right now there are two democrats who don't want to make that happen, but the fight is not over. far from it. >> that vote is also likely to fail. democratic senators joe manchin and kyrsten sinema have publicly affirmed their opposition to changing the filibuster, acknowledging they do not have the votes, some democrats are changing course. they have floetd implementing a talking filibuster that would allow opponents to delay a bill for as long as they can hold the floor, but after that, well, it would be able to pass by a simple majority. democrats missed their self-imposed deadline to vote on the bills by martin luther king jr. day, yesterday, but the white house and dr. king's family marked the holiday by calling on the senate to act. the king family marched with activists in washington, d.c., to pressure lawmakers to end the filibuster and allow voting rights to pass. meanwhile, house speaker nancy pelosi made her case for changing the filibuster in a
forceful speech yesterday. >> so i ask our colleagues in the senate respectfully for what they think the filibuster means, to compare that, to weigh the equities against our democracy because nothing less is at stake than our democracy. if you really truly want to honor dr. king, don't dishonor him by using a congressional custom as an excuse for protecting our democracy. >> senator bernie sanders tweeted directly at the two moderate democrats holding up the legislation, writing part, quote, will 50 democrats vote to override the filibuster, protect american democracy, and pass the bill, or will manchin and sinema vote with the gop and let the bill die? the white house didn't spare the senators either. when asked about manchin and sinema, vice president harris had this to say. >> as i've said before, there are 100 members in the united
states senate, and i'm not going to absolve nor should any of us absolve any member of the united states senate from taking on a responsibility to follow through on the oath that they all took to support and defend the constitution of the united states. >> in his address at the national action network, president biden on vote the legacy of dr. king. >> it's no longer about just who gets to vote. it's about who gets to count the vote and whether your vote counts at all. it's about voter suppression and election subversion. in his time through his courage, his conviction, and his commitment, dr. king held a mirror up to america and forced us to answer the question, where do we stand? whose side are we on? we're in another moment right now where the mirror's being held up to america, being held up again. the question being asked again,
where do we stand? >> the president of the national action network, the reverend al sharpton will be my guest a little later in the show. we'll ask him about the democratic push for voting rights. joining us now is congressional reporter for "politico," nicholas wu. thank you so much for being here. with manchin and sinema both saying they're not going to back changes to the filibuster, the strategy appears doomed if for democrats. so talk to us as to why senator schumer is still calling for these proceedings today on the senate, and how do you see it playing out? >> right. so, yes, the -- changing the rules in the senate just requires a simple majority. but remember in a 50/50 senate, you know, if you lose one democrat or in this case two, you know, this is going to doom any attempt at a rules change. when this comes up as soon as today, yes, that is a doomed vote. but the bigger picture here for
democrats is that, you know, progress irv activists have been waiting for a long time to try to take a vote on the filibuster and really put what they see as this kind of archaic relic out of its misery, but, you know, that's not going to happen today. so the question for democrats is whether they've set expectation taos high about changing the filibuster and for trying to achieve some kind of election reform compared to what they're actually going to be able to deliver here, which for now seems like nothing. >> yeah. really been mounting pressure on democrats from members of their base, from civil rights groups to be able to show action, not just rhetoric. and at least to this point, it's just the words. nicholas, hang tight for a second because i also want to get your take on this story. in an interview with newsmax yesterday former president donald trump was asked what they would do first if they took over at the midterms. well, he didn't seem to have any specific answers. take a look. >> sounds like the republicans are going to take back control of the congress.
what would you like them to do first? >> number one, take back. we have to take it back. these are radicalized, horrible people that hate our country what they're doing with the open borders and the judges and all of the things they've been doing is so sad. and then you look at after indian stan as a topper, the way they came out. we were coming out and we were coming out strong, with dignity. there's never been a lower point than what happened with afghanistan in my opinion. so, number one, we've got to win the house, and i think we can win the senate also. we should win the house maybe handily, and i think we should win the senate. >> i'm not going to ask you to weigh in on the former president's fashion sense, no tie, certainly one button too low. he didn't dive into policy. he told one group, hey, bring me anything to sign and i'll sign it. outside of a couple of statements about the border and taxes, not much there. he's still, of course, gop king
maker. give us a sense of congressional candidates. what sort of agenda are they going to push forward to make them say, hey, we're aligned with that guy? >> well, for now, you know, like you said, the former president is not necessarily known for putting forward some kind of affirmative declaration policy. you know, that hasn't necessarily been the major focus from congressional republicans either. they're just -- you know, they're running a simple campaign message now of not being biden and not being democrats some of far at least based on polling, that might be enough to get them the majority. but it still seems the former president has a fair amount of influence in american republican politics especially on the hillside. look at the number of republicans in the house who voted to impeach the president who have now announced they're retiring from the office,
whereas the senate in pennsylvania, for example, are duking it out, trying to win the former president's endorsement. he still looms very large over all of this. >> yeah. certainly, though, i think a lot of republicans, congressional candidates, would love to be talking about 2022 during this campaign and not about 2020. we'll have to see if the former president will do the same. i kind of doubt it. "politico's" nicholas wu, we appreciate it as always. we'll see you soon. still ahead s the omicron variant the last wave of the covid pandemic? the latest outlook from dr. fauci. we'll get into that. plus, new details in the tense hostage standoff inside a synagogue. how the rabbi helped the hostages escape. those stories and a check on the weather when we come right back. weather when we come right back.
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when you talk about whether or not omicron, which is highly transmissible but apparently not as pathogenic, for example, as delta, i would hope that that's the case, but that would only be the case if we don't get another variant that eludes the immune response to the prior variant. so i really do think from seeing that, it's an open question as to whether or not omicron is going to be the live virus vaccination that everyone is hoping for because you have such a great deal of variability with new variants emerging. >> that was dr. anthony fauci speaking at the world economic forum's davos online conference yesterday saying, quote, it's too soon to tell if omicron will be the final wave of this pandemic. general mark milley, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff has tested positive for
covid-19. according to the statement milley was fully vaccinate and tested positive on sunday. he's working remotely and isolating from others. his contact with biden was on wednesday. he tested negative for several days leading up to the event and several days after until sunday. milley is experiencing very minor symptoms and the performance of his duties will remain unaffected. we're also learning more what happened inside a texas synagogue over the weekend, how a gunman held hostages and how the r rabbi planned the escape. >> reporter: authorities i.d.'d the suspect as a 44-year-old british citizen who the fbi said acted alone when he took four hostages during services.
two of his teenager sons were questioned at some point on saturday. there's no indication they're being considered suspects. akram was in the u.s. legally. rabbi charles cytron-walker said he didn't notice anything suspicious until he heard a click during the prayers and turned to see a gun. stacy silverman was watching the livestream on her computer. a tense 11-hour standoff followed. fbi negotiators establishing contact early. akram's only request, the release of a female prisoner who was formerly convicted of attempted murder of u.s. military. during the 11-hour standoff akram released one hostage. as hours went by, the rabbi said he only became more agitated.
>> i threw a chair at the gunman and i headed for the door, and all three of us were able to get out without even a shot being fired. >> reporter: the suspect died after the fbi moved in. his family says he suffered from mental illness. jeffrey cohen was one of the hostages. >> at one point the terrorist let us call our families. i made calls to my wife and son and basically told them i'm here, he basically has a bomb, things don't look good right now, i love you, and remember me. >> reporter: this attack highlights what rabbi andrew paley calls an ever-present threat for the jewish community. >> no one wants to have armed security or other layers of security around them. that's not the vision of a world we want to live in. >> reporter: in 2019 one person was killed when a man with a machete attacked people at a hanukkah celebration in new york.
and in 2018, 11 were killed during a shooting at this pittsburgh synagogue. >> you have the embrace and support of the entire world of good decent people who reject this and say no, this is not okay. so you're not alone. >> our thanks to morgan chesky for that report. still ahead, the second round of the nfl playoffs is set following first-ever wild-card game on "monday night football." and the brooklyn nets could use more star power now that kevin durant is out for several weeks. so is his teammate kyrie irving ready to get vaccinated? "way too early" is coming right back with that answer. "way too early" is coming right back with that answer. find your rhythm. your happy place. find your breaking point.
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i'm jonathan lemire. republican senator ron johnson of wisconsin announced last week that he will seek re-election for a third term this year despite a previous pledge to retire, saying he believes the country is in too much peril for him to leave after his second term. johnson, who has been criticized for spreading false claims about covid-19 and the 2020 election was endorsed last year by donald trump who encouraged him to run again. joining us now is a democrat vying to keep senator johnson from reclaiming his seat t lieutenant governor mendel la barnes. thank you so much for being here. we really appreciate it. draw some contrasts if you will between yourself and senator ron johnson who famously downplayed the insurrection. what message are you trying to get out there to prospective voters? >> thanks for having me.
i'll say people are frustrated with people getting elected to elevate themselves. he's doubled his wealth because of the tax breaks he was given while we're doing the work to provide for middle-class families to expand the middle class in wisconsin, protect our family farmers, all of our working families, in fact, also our small businesses, especially as we try to rebounding from the impacts of the pandemic, which senator johnson has constantly downplayed the impact like the insurrection and climate change, which is devastating our family farms and industry and vulnerable communities. the difference couldn't be more clear. we're fighting to deliver more opportunity for working families, and ron johnson is delivering opportunities for himself and others. >> one of the reasons why is about the response to the pandemic. senator johnson as you said has downplayed the severity of the virus at times and certainly
taken at times a skeptical stance on the covid-19 vaccinations. talk to us about why that's important, particularly since wisconsin is one of those states right now that's really seeing a surge in cases and hospitalizations? >> it's important because of how dangerous senator johnson's rhetoric has been. it's literally costing lives. we elect leaders in situations like this, in times like this, in times of crisis, and ron johnson has failed to answer the call every single step of the way. spent much of 20 going around the state making sure there was testing infrastructure, making sure we had vaccine clinics ready and available to people, but at the same time we had people like ron johnson who made not just our jobs difficult, but he made life difficult for a lot of people, people who unnecessarily had to struggle and deal with the impacts of the pandemic, people who endeded up on respirators and in icu beds
because they believed with one of their senators was saying, and that's not the way to -- that's not what you were elected to do. if he's not going to do the job he was elected to do, i'm going do it for him. that's exactly why i'm running torque keep people safe in the state of wisconsin, keep people safe across the entire country, especially as the pandemic continues to rage. >> mr. lieutenant governor, you said you have favored getting rid of the filibuster in the senate. they'll be debating on voting rights today. give us a message for fellow democrats manchin and sinema who have an opportunity to change the filibuster, and also are you not concerned if the filibuster is implemented, what the republicans could do with that if they were to take control of the senate? >> it's certainly disappointing in a moment like this as we just celebrated the life and legacy of dr. martin luther king. we know the one thing that is in the way of voting rights right now in this country, but, look,
it's more than just one or two senators because people like ron johnson have been no partner in this court to help save our democracy. that's why one of his first plans was a call for ending the filibuster, that calls for an end to election subversion and bans members of congress from trading individual stocks. now people are looking for these sorts of reforms. that's why there's such a frustration because, again, politicians have been incredibly self-serving in washington, d.c., leave working families in the dust. it's a body that's failing to deliver. that's exactly why i'm running. now, of course, getting rid of the filibuster will help advance the cause, help us moving forward as a country. there's not even a question at this moment about getting rid of the filibuster. and to your point about republicans, if we could get rid of the filibuster, i think about all the incredible things we could do for families in this
country. that would be of no concern to republicans. there would be little argument what direction the country is moving if we got rid of the filibuster. yes, of course. you can join the team, www.mandelabarnes.com. >> democratic candidate for u.s. senate in wisconsin. good luck to you out there. we hope to talk with downtown the road. still ahead, we'll go live to cnbc for an early look at what's driving the day on wall street. plus, blame it on inflation. peloton is adding hundreds of dollars in fees to its bike and treadmill. "way too early" will be right back. "way too early" will be right back
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julianna tatelbaum from london. the markets were closed yesterday in observance of martin luther king day. what are the expectations? >> that's right. it's a big week for earnings. there's going to be a lot focus was on commentary around the outlook and how management steams are thinking about the months ahead, in particular how they're thinking about margins given the inflation pressures that we're seeing. now, in terms of the stockmarket today, u.s. futures point to quite a negative start to the trading session. as you mentioned, we're coming back after a long weekend and in particular we're going to see continued selling pressure in the technology stocks as bond yields move higher. we're also seeing a strong demand for oil, reaching a seven-year high. goldman sachs and mellon are the big ones. >> peloton, recently accused of
killing mr. big -- just kidding -- is about to charge more for its original bike and treadmill citing heightened inflation and increased costs. what can you share about that. >> jonathan, first i would say, spoiler alert should have been mentioned. i haven't seen it. >> i'm sorry. keep going. >> it's true. i have no excuse. it's my own fault. peloton, back to it, this has been an extraordinary ride watching the peloton stock, no pun intended. in the most recent news, peloton is about to begin charge customers more for their bike and treadmill. they're going to be asking people to pay an additional $250 for delivery and set up of the bike and an additional $300 for the tread. they say this is because of inflation and rising supply chain costs. the realts is they've faced a
huge amount of pressure. the stock has taken a hit. actually on january 24th, jonathan, the stock is set to come out of the nasdaq 100. so it's been a difficult ride for peloton. >> so the winter olympics are just a few weeks away in beijing, and china has had a zero tolerance crackdown on covid. i saw today they're banning the sale of hamsters. they're not going to be selling any tickets to the winter olympics, but who is still allowed to attend the games and why? >> well, we still are waiting details on who exactly is going to be able to attend. but instead of making tickets available to the general public, those within china, they're only going to be distributing tickets to targeting groups. international spectaors are not invited at all. also worth noting that several countries have security concerns heading into the winter
olympics. in the most recent developments, the united states olympic and paralympic committee is encouraging team usa to use disposable or burner phones while they're over there because of possible surveillance during the games some of these olympics are going to look a little different than the ones in the past. >> i will note i was part of a presidential trip covering the white house when president trump went to beijing. we got the same advice. cnbc's julianna tatelbaum. apologies for the spoiler alert. still ahead on "way too early," don't celebrate. legislate. the family of martin luther king jr. sends a strong message to those holding out on the filibuster. and reverend al sharpton joins us to talk about what's next for voting rights if it's stalled in the senate. "way too early" is coming right back. led in the senate "way too early" is coming right "way too early" is coming right back
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senator tim scott of south carolina is working on what he calls a, quote, positive response to partisan rhetoric on race. scott, the only black republican senator, says president biden's voting rights speech was misleading and did not help the current climate. he's releasing a video series of listening sessions focused on improving minority communities and race relations. >> you pay for education once, but you pay for ignorance for the rest of your life. so it's a crucial piece. any community, if you can be uplifted, education has to be a foundation for that to occur. >> education, i feel like we are not hitting the mark. so whether you're black or white, you live in a marginalized community. the education system that we have today is not producing results in my opinion that feeds the high crime rates throughout the country. >> scott gave the gop response
to president biden's first congressional address last year. there's some speculation the senator may run for president in 2024. we should note no republicans have come on record saying they'll support these voting rights bills. on the holiday observing his birthday, the family of martin luther king jr. pleaded with senators manchin and sinema to support the filibuster. >> senators sinema and manchin also say if they -- if the bill doesn't get bipartisan support, it shouldn't pass. the 15th amendment that gave formerly enslaved people the right to vote in 1870, that didn't have bipartisan vote. should former slaves is have been denied the right to vote? >> all the elected tweeters throughout tweeting, posting, and celebrating my grandfather dr. king today, my message to
you is simple. do not celebrate. legislate. the senate must do the right thing when this legislation comes to a vote tomorrow. senator sinema, senator manchin, our future hinges on your decision, and history will remember what choice you make. >> we're very pleased to say joining us now is the host of msnbc's "politicsnation" and the president of the national action network, the reverend al sharpton. great to see you this morning. you're, of course, the author of a new book, "right out troublemakers." i'll get to your book in a moment but i want to respond to tim scott's comment who said president biden's voting rights speech last week in atlanta was misleading. what's your take on that? >> i was at the speech and i not only did not feel it was
misleading, i felt it was right on point. president biden said in his speech what many of us in civil rights leadership have been saying all along, and that is that you must choose what side you're on in america, and he laid out the sides. and i think that what senator scott, in all due respect, and many in the republican party have done is tried to avoid saying which side they're on. they're trying to say they're for voting rights, but they're not for the voting rights bill. they're trying to say that they want to see equal access to the ballot box, but they will not come out against the 19 states that have changed election laws that would impede people's right to vote. i think that what president biden said is exactly right. you can't walk on both sides of the street at the same time. he called them out to choose which side they're on.
i thought it was not only appropriate. i thought it was necessary. >> sir reverend al, a number of activists and a number of civilian rights groups said mlk day yesterday was the deadline to show progress on voting rights swrechl no reason to believe that that sinema and manchin will change their positions this week. if that remains the case and there is no obvious path to legislation, have the white house and democrats done enough on voting rights? >> well, as you know and i have covered that and i have been one for months trying to push the white house to move early on fi filibuster. i was glad to see the president come out. having said that if the vote goes down today the way we feel and will and senator schumer -- he gave the indication it was going to be
different in the vote of sinema and manchin. the vote goes down where the democrats can't deliver the 50 votes to try to get the rules changed. we must go to plan b and civil rights organization. determining that we are going to go to the president and to the attorney general to see if we can go with the doj and deal with some of these state laws in terms of violating voting rights and showing the district proportionate impact and what we can do with executive orders. either way, whatever way the vote goes and we hope to the last moment as the king family and all of us have worked together that sinema and manchin may change their minds. even if they don't, we are determined we are not going to stop. we are going to keep the pressure on and next stop will be the white house and if
department of justice. >> very quickly if you can tell a little bit more of your new book, one of these righteous troublemakers we may not know much about. >> well, i want to write a book about many people that never got the limelights like many of us have in the civil rights and human rights movement. attorney paul murray is one who wrote in of the legal basis that democracy used, the supreme court and the board and brown verses the board of education. she never got the limelight because she did this in the 50s where women were never given the limelight and she was gay. i figured that as long as i had some limelight like doing "way too early," i want to share the
limelight with those that pave the way for people. >> lights are rarely brighter than those who are way too early. reverend sharpton, we appreciate you being here. congrats on the book, we'll talk to you soon. >> earlier in the show, we ask you this question. she's up too early because her dogs kicked her out of bed. katelyn writes this, the wolf moon creating such light here in nor cal brought everybody out. and pete, that's a good shot. thank you for all of you watching. up next a look at axios one big thing. as the rev mentions all eyes are on the senate today. democrats will begin debates on new voting rights legislation. as a 22-year-old college senior,
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joining us now, we'll look at axios am, our friend hans nichols. what's axios one big thing today? >> the one big thing we are looking at is where donald trump is saying about desantis. he has two damming criticisms and i think you know which one is more damming for the president. number one, he thinks, trump thinks he's telling desantis is he's ingrateful, making him win governor and gets all the national things. the other criticism is more devastating. he thinks desantis is dull.
you know from covering donald trump, the one thing if you want to be in his mind if you are looking for his hort is to be dull. desantis is not concerned about this. he's going ahead of what he wants to do. he has not said whether he'll jump out of the race if donald trump decides to jump in. we have most candidates where if trump is in, i am either out or endorsing him. >> hans, there are obviously no sure things in politics. right now with the president's slow approval rating and historical trends it would indicate that the republicans would take back the house in 2022. there is a good chance of that. kevin mccarthy, well, he's imminent to be speaker. axios recently sat down with him, what did you guys learn in
terms of what change we should expect if he were to take the top post? >> he's going to be much more aggressive than previous republican speaker of the house. the contrast is so stark. look at what mccarthy is signaling. he's talking about being more aggressive on immigration reform. he's talking about taking fights to traditional allies and republican party around town. you look at the sort of the probusiness sentiment of paul ryan, these are two radical speakers, yes, from the same party but probably only in name. >> mccarthy seems to be looking to channel the trump's agenda whether trump resumes another presidential campaign or not. hans nichols no one ever said
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