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america climate resilient. it not only creates jobs, but it targets part of america most vulnerable to parts of climate change. let's again with the news on president biden's search for a supreme court nominee. the president is now considering more candidates than first reported, more than a dozen. duo know that the president maintains his campaign promise to nominate a black woman leading to this reaction. i see putting a back woman on the court, making the court more like america.
>> my goal is to make sure we have deliberate and timely ratings. that speaks well of the course. >> with so much focus on who he will choose, reverend barber says it is also about the main issues this justice will face. this justice will not just fill a liberal void on the court left behind by breyer but they will be on a court that most sides with big corporations and money. many who support corporations leek the u.s. chamber of commerce tend to oppose expanding voting rights, civil rights, health care for all. policies that would benefit 140
million poor and low income people living in this country. 2020 data from the constitutional accountability center found the court siding with the chamber of commerce nearly 70% of the time. the short, the push now, for him to pick a justice, a black woman, whose lived experience will represent and tell people not corporations. barbara joins me now. he is co-chair of the poor people's campaign and president of repairs good to see you make the case for me that this needs to be a main consideration. >> right now we're making our way to washington dc for the poor peoples low wage workers assembly march to the polls on the 18th. you can't ignore the poor people in this country. 45% of the electorate in the
battleground states where the deference was 3%, the supreme court can determine who has power in this could be try. that's why we're watching this very carefully. they can gut, like they did the voting rights act, and unleash voter suppression. or the supreme court can pass rulings that benefit corporations and give corp agencies more power to not only influence the election with more money that poor people don't have, but also give corporations more power to block things like living wages. so we're watching this very carefully, you know. we remember when mrs. barrett was on the court, she sided with corporations 76% of the time when she was in the 7th circuit. a lot of republicans say they're looking for abortion, praying in school, and against gay people, but look deeper.
>> reverendreverend, looking the lens, i want to tell you about all of the nominees in the coming days, why is the lived experience so important? when reagan said he was going to pick a woman, no one said that. trump said he would pick a woman, and no one said that. he should just do it because he said he would do it. a this is about the affirmative inaction to never put a black woman on the court, but as
thoroughgood marshall said, the question is the person you want, the woman with the judicial philosophy, they are in a serious about the 14th amendment, equal protection under the law. they are serious about those laws and the constitutions. the domination of a majority or a money, greed in this country. so judicial experience is so critical. we have to look at skin color and all of the black women out there, more than we can count dwob it, do it now, and let's
please somebody on the court that scares about all people, ju deshlly and personally. >>. >> well, the appointment of a black female to the court and i believe the diversity benefits the supreme court, but the way that the president handled this nomination is clumsy at best. it adds to the perception that the court is a political institution like congress when it is not supposed to be. >> you debunked that claim about it being clumsy. but i wonder what you think that
republicans are actually saying and what their actual resistance is. >> it is clear over the years. this is ridiculous. i need to find somewhere to go sit down and hush her mouth. she is talking about voting rights. she is not really being honest here and for suggesting this -- but the bottom line is that it is time for the court to representation americans. they want someone that will vote their way. they like a thomas. and they want justice that's will be black and can turn around and vote against the interest. the constitutional right and not just black, but brown people.
and that's why i think we have to add this lens of economics. a lot of people have diversity, but they mean diversity where there is differences but no change. they don't want to see this kind of change that has to happen from a justice standpoint. and there is a fear of having a court that will take it seriously, as i said, the 14th amendment, take seriously the equal protection under law. her own record makes what she said ridiculous. but what i also say to the biden administration is you cannot do this pick and stop voting on voting rights and build back better and stop fighting on child tax credit and living wages. all of those things also impact their lyes.
so this is a get it done and do it, but keep the fight going because we need the courts and we need the legislative policy. it is both. >> you report thad 200 religious leaders called for the super bowl to are b removed from arizona because of their attempt to overturn the 2020 election. >> you ought to remauve it when the senators are not honoring the dream and the policies of dr. king. dr. king gave his life. the senator and they are opposed. the fact that they have blocked the voting could hurt 55 million
americans, not just black people, from having access to the polls that they had in 2020. there should be a price to pay for that. move that super bowl. we have plenty and send a state that you're not going to fund a state where the senator is opposed. and by the way the 15th amendment, the 152nd anniversary is this coming thursday, february the 3rd. 152 years ago, we said no one has the right to bridge the right to vote. and 152 years later, the senators like the one in arizona are engaged in bridges a right to vote and there needs to be clear statements from everyone, from the pulpit, to professional football, everyone needs to be speaking out against this. >> i appreciate that you don't even need to say her name. thank you for your time. next, trump feels the heat. at least it appears he is after last night's ramblings in texas.
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as he famously did, he did his best to whitewash reality, promising this, should voters allow him back to the white house in 2024. >> if i run and if i win, we will treat those people from january 6th fairly. we will treat them fairly. and if it requires pardons, we will give them pardons. they are being treated so unfairly. >> the washington post sees the move as a clear industry gi saying one of the best protections is the fear that formally challenging the president, and he will happily stand by such a situation with a blow torch in hand. with us to discuss this, michigan law profession and
barbara mcquaid, and we'll talk about that in a little bit. bipartisan, i want to start with the new comments about the investigations, could his own words come back to bite him legally speaking? >> i think so. they did say there was obstruction of justice, some of the things sited there was the dangling of pardons. they suggested that offering a pardon he was influencing their cooperation with the government. they know if he is promises them a pardon he might refrain from doing so. anyone incolliding to commit an attack like january 6th in the future would feel empowered by his words. that could be seen as having some potential criminal
exposure. i think you need to see a little more there but it is a dangerous place to go down the word to promise pardons for people who are enmys of the country. >> you have all of the talk about pardons and this new reporting about other pardons saying the assertion comes by some of the fiercest supporters to rewrite the history of january 6th. baselessly claiming that it was instituted by the fbi and the detainees are political prisoners, tell me more. >> there has been a long running narrative in some of the more conspiratorial corners trying to claim, trying to prove that the reason the attack on the capitol hill happened was because of under cover law enforcement agents that were present that day andinstigated the
entire thing. sometimes they engage in really problematic behavior. however, in the case of jan 6th, the evidence that these folks tried to marshal has been clumsy. and they pointed to a man who appears in several videos made by people around the capitol hill saying things that were pretty whacky and incendiary. now the argument went that he was on the fbi most wanted list for a time and then the argument was made that he must have been a secret undercover informant. so to give you an idea of how much purchase it got, it came up
in a congressnal hearing. as in standard practice, those officials did not engage or sage anything either way, but later that day the january 6th select committee said they spoke to ray epps and it was clear he was not working for the fbi. it would be a huge dpael it was true, we would be covering it. as far as we know it does not exist and the fact that serious people are pushing this forward like it is gospel truth is just another example of what is emerging in the wake of the attack on the capital. >> they conspirator and crazy that they could just sew chaos
at large. all of these fake electors that we're now learning more and more about, i spoke with the secretary of state last hour. in seven battleground states and here is the clip. >> testifying before a sham election hearing and we're not an investigative body. my saufs a witness to the weeks of attempts in december to interfere or tamper with the integrity of our elections and our accurate results. so we're submitting evidence like that to look into who julianny spoke with while in michigan. >> yeah, seven states. the states, very close. they were signed by electors
that were trump electors. was there a fraud being per traited, and who was coordinating that effort? i suppose they may say we were told by the trump campaign to submit this as a provisional ballot. somebody knew there was no their there. we know that the january 6th committee is divided into something like five different teams looking at different segments of this entire strategy. and i think that is going to be very interesting to see how all of these pieces get together to create this general chaos to undermine faith in the election, and in our democracy going forward. it can destabilize democracies and it's so important that the committee fight back and that the justice committee fight back. >> betsy and barb, i'm grateful
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friend who was the one that called my attention to this issue. the climate disasters are incredibly expensive, but more important they require a skilled workforce and the workforce that has been doing these jobs has not been paid adequately. they don't have the benefits they should have, and they're not being recognized for the work they're doing. but in addition we need more of these jobs. we need these jobs to be good paying jobs and we need to recognize what an opportunity there is in the challenge. so my bill is really a new approach to this. it creates millions of new jobs in the climate resilience fields. whether or not it is immigration status or previous history and it provides funds for planning
across the country with local and state governments and involving the communities that are hit the most in that planning accomplishing an office of climate resistance, and it is what we need to plan and respond to these disasters. >> your organization laid out a model for this type of program which launched in late 2020 writing "the 40 workers were mainly people that lost jobs in the hospitality industry during the pandemic. they're now on full-time contracts with a past to an $18 an hour wage. has this worked in and out a way that you feel confident can be brought to scale nationally.
mostly laid off service industry workers who lost their jobs in the midst of the pandemic were retraining and rehired to be a resilient score that was on call for the city of new orleans to help the city face disaster, stronger, when hurricane ida hit, these workers were an essential part of the response they distributed food, they managed health care lines, they did community service and many are now going on to become trained for higher value jobs as repairs and rebuilders of critical infrastructure through a trading pipeline. so absolutely the model works would send millions to
municipaliies that need these kind of workers. >> i want to underscore the use of the word resilience. the model used to be one of these natural disasters come through and the idea is to build a community back to where it was before. you can't build it back to where it was before or you're ready to face the same situation again. meaning in terms of infrastructure, bridges, tunnels, dams, and also in terms of the human infrastructure piece, right? so to that point, black americans living in communities studied in 2019, hit by disasters that year lost 20% of health. white americans in the same area gained more than $126,000 in wealth. how disease your plan address disparities like that.
and the community that's are most disproportionately burdened are the black, brown, indigenous and poor community that's are not at the table for the planning nor are they at the table in terms of bringing back better the opportunities once a disaster hit. so our bill really prioritized those frontline communities. it puts them at the center of plans, of the workforce that we're creating, and at the center of these good job that's you will create. and you might remember that in both of infrastructure bill and the build back better act, we have really prioritized this environmental justice 40 to make sure that 40% of all of the expenditures that we put into anything that we do now goes to those communities who are just disproportionally hurt. we really make sure that we're
prioritizing those communities at every stage, including as we build back. much better. >> congressman, thank you very much for being with us. still ahead how a massive project will save the people of chicago cash, increase their safety, and benefit the environment in the process. we are heading to the windy city. first, two royals weigh in, now spotify is responding announcing what it will do to address the outrage over misinformation heard on joe rogan's pod cast. that new update after this break. pod cast. designed to last. so you can go from saving... to living. aleve-x. it's fast, powerful break. with a revolutionary, rollerball design. because with the right pain reliever... life opens up. aleve it... and see what's possible.
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it was launched by neil young who pulled his music over covid experience -- conspiracy theories on covid. then this weekend, prince harr y and meghan markle have expressed concerns after they have signed an exclusive podcast contract last year. jill, we're entering the third year of this pandemic. why is the boycott now, and why was neil young the one to kick this off? >> i think is quite commendable that he has kicked this off. in a battle between neil young
and joe rogan he is probably going to win the battle. young was taking a principaled stance. i think that any time we're asking a company or a platform to remove content or to sensor content, that should be attacken really seriously. and approached really, really carefully. but this this particular instance joe rogan has a long history of having conspiracy theories on science denial and is presenting folks with information as experts, and he is doing it with the exclusive financial backing of spotify. so i think three years into a pandemic where we're still stuck because of vaccine hesitancy, the american public is fed up, frustrated, and neil young is an
advocate for that. i think you to realize the long tale of this whole situation. right now joe rogan is a $100 million man with his deal with spotiex fy. and i saw when this whole thing fist broke, people were making fun of neil young saying it wasn't his hay day a long time ago, but neil young was bigger in the '70s, 50 years from then, we're still talking about him and his music. we'll probably still be talking about him 50 years from now. his music stands to generate a lot more money over that time. will we be talking about joe rogan and other podcasters 50 years from now? i don't know. in talking to neil young he is someone you can't really tag to a political party or a political
point of view. talking about climate change, he supported reagan in the 80s. he stood up against nixon. he is trying to speak to truth and stand up for facts and for science. it's hard not to sympathize with that. >> i think it is also interesting, jill, that it starts with neil young, joni, you have brene brown. is a content warning sufficient on this? >> no, i'm not sure that it is. particularly if the content warning is only talking about covid. if it's not specific saying this is not true, what this person is telling you is false, you know, some of joe rogan's previous
podcasts, like his interview with alex jones, including previous interviews where he included blatent misinformation, it is removed. i would love to see artists with tremendous platforms, folks like taylor swift, jay-z, big players in music. it would be really helpful if they came out to take the same kind of stance. >> i know jill well enough when she puts on her brave face, and that of course becomes a very thorny conversation the minute you name check people. who do you think, christopher, has the power to advance this conversation and where does it go from here? spotify coming out today to put out this release saying they want to do something that is testing the water to see if that
is sufficient, it is not if other people continue to demand a rebuff. >> i think that joni mitchell and neil young is a great place to get it moving. people may think they artists of the past but they're two of the greatest singer-song writers of all time. they are widely respected and when spotify was so dismissive of young, i they got under the skin of other singer-song writers who idolize these two. they up there, stevie wonder and bob dylan. i think coming after these two artists, i think others will start tostep forward and say i'm with neil, i would rather be with neil given what they stand
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the windy city going green and getting brighter. chicago, america's third largest city, undertaking one of the largest streetlight modernization programs in u.s. history. why? nbc's mara barrett has the answer. >> reporter: years in the works, and nearly finished. making these streetlights, street smart. >> so this is new. what you see on the tablet here
is what we see in real life on the streets and in the street lamps. >> yeah, that's right. you see all the different circuits, how many lights are on each pole and if the lights are working or not. >> reporter: back at dispatch, the city's electric workers say the new communication between the streetlights and the app makes their life easier. >> this is the largest program to install smart lights in north america. >> reporter: every single one of these dots, a new smart l.e.d. streetlight. but the part of this major infrastructure transformation that you can't see, the climate impact. each of these lights, nearly 300,000 of them, doing their part to reduce the city's emissions. >> the goal of the project is to save energy, improve the quality of the lighting and to create a network that's more efficient and easier for the city to maintain. >> reporter: l.e.d.s lower electricity demand and, therefore, reduce greenhouse emissions. 95% of the energy in them is converted into light, which means only 5% is wasted as heat,
making them 60 to 80% more efficient. >> so in aggregate that's the same amount of energy 16,000 houses use in a year. it's the equivalent of taking 30,000 cars off the road. >> just by replacing all these light bulbs? >> just by replacing all the lights. >> reporter: these l.e.d. lights do more than just save energy. because they last significantly longer, they cause less waste. according to the environmental protection agency, the transportation and energy sectors are the largest emitters of greenhouse gases in the u.s. >> there's a finite amount of mrnl available in a city, really across the globe. we need to be thinking differently about it. so there's the need. >> reporter: the commissioner of the chicago department of transportation sees this update as a small way to make a big impact for the climate and the city's budget. >> we're actually expecting to save $100 million over the next ten years. it is a huge number. >> reporter: that savings after a $160 million investment, the
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>> that was nbc's mara barrett reporting. next, an update. a story we have followed for more than a year. the murder of an american hero. the president signing an executive order to prevent what happened to vanessa guillen from ever happening again. that update after this. pening an that update after this sorry, one sec. doug blows a whistle. [a vulture squawks.] oh boy. only pay for what you need. ♪liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty♪ before nexium 24hr, anna could only imagine a comfortable night's sleep without frequent heartburn waking her up. now, that dream... . ...is her reality. nexium 24hr stops acid before it starts, for all-day, all-night protection. can you imagine 24 hours without heartburn?
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killed by another soldier at ft. hood, texas. for her brutal murder in 2020 she told her family she had been sexually harassed in the military but fears of retaliation kept her from reporting it to her superiors. after her death, her family turned their tragedy into a mission of shedding light on sexual misconduct in the their efforts led to the secretary of the army ordering an investigation which resulted 14 army officials were fired or suspended by the end of 2020. investigators found major flaws at fort hood including a culture at top command that was permissive of sexual harassment and sexual assault. the guillen family kept going, working with lawmakers to push for legislative military reform by way of the "i am vanessa guillen" act. that has yet to become law but president biden has signed an executive order that includes key components of that act. last week, sexual harassment became a crime, making it an offense in the uniform code of
military justice. biden's order also allows victims to report incidents outside their own chain of command. vanessa's sister tweeting this is a very emotional and proud moment for my family. honor in your memory, vanessa. you're in my heart and memory 24/7. that is where we'll leave you this sunday and for this weekend. i am alicia menendez. i'll see you back here next weekend for more "american voices." for now i hand it over to mehdi hassan. hi, mehdi. >> thank you so much. have a great rest of your night. tonight, republicans have already started their campaign to keep a black woman off the supreme court. new york democratic congressman jones is here to discuss. plus, what is vladimir putin's end game in ukraine? i'll ask masha guessen who's just arrived back from visiting the country. and wajahat ali is here to
discuss his new mechl woir " -- memoir "go back to where you came from." back to where you came from. good evening. i'm mehdi hasan. another weekend, another trump rally. the former guy ranting and raving in texas last night where he again dangled the possibility of a 2024 run and pardons for the 1/6 prisoners. but i'm not going to start the show with that trump rally, i'm going to start with this one. from the campaign trail in september 2020. take a listen. >> who'd rather have a man on the supreme court? who's rather have a woman on the supreme court? it will be a woman, a very talented, very brilliant woman. who i haven't chosen yet, but we