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♪ good day, everyone. this is "andrea mitchell reports" in washington. as the man hunt for the new york city subway shooter continues. after the tuesday morning attack in brooklyn. mayor adams says frank james has been identified as a person of interest in connection to the shooting, is now a suspect. based on new information from the investigative team. on more in ukraine. uh-huh president zelenskyy is meeting in kyiv with the presidents of four eastern european nations today after praising president biden for calling the actions of russian forces in ukraine genocide for the first time during a speech in iowa tuesday. mr. biden doubled down on those comments before boarding air force 1 for the trip back to washington.
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>> yes, i called it genocide. putin is trying to wipe out the idea of be ukrainian. and the evidence is mounting. it's different than last week. we'll threat lawyers decide internationally whether or not it qualifies but it sure seems that way to me. >> andial are talk to dr. fauci about the latest covid virus variant, the stunning lockdown in shanghai and whether more cities need to introduce mask mandates, following in the heels of philadelphia. and now the search for frank james, now the suspect. joining me in brooklyn. nbc justice correspondent, pete williams, former fbi special agent, clint watts and former head of homeland security in d.c. what more have we learned and why he's considered a suspect?
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>> i think the reason is there's authorities so much evidence that points to frank robert james, born august 8, 1959, as the man who fired the shots on the subway. there's video showing him getting out of the van, which apparently he slept in overnight, monday night. that's the van, the u-haul van he rented in philadelphia, drove to new york and parked it there and slept overnight in it. and some time early yesterday morning, he walked to the subway line, got on to an n-train, and stayed for a couple of hours on the subway before finally firing the shots yesterday, according to authorities. it's what he left behind, andrea, that's been so important to the investigation. are the bag you've seen full of fireworks that a fireworks dealer now says were sold to him ten months ago. a fireworks dealer in wisconsin. there's a credit card and a key that led them to van and most
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importantly of all, authorities say frank james left behind the gun use thind shooting, the .9 millimeter glock 17. which the bureau of tobacco and firearms has traced to a gun dealer in columbus, ohio in 2011, who sold him that handgun in 2011 and you put that together, plus the witness descriptions describing someone who looked like him. and authorities say they have found a cell phone belonging to frank james. apparently not left in the subway but found somewhere else. are and if that cell phone was on, that will provide additional information about his movements. so, you put all this together and that's why it went so rapidly from not knowing who did this to calling him a person of interest last night, to today now saying that he is the suspect. and then the question is how soon will the charges be filed?
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and my understanding is that state and federal authorities are both discussing whether to file federal charges. there are a number of different statutes that federal authorities are looking at that specifically make it a crime to interfere with or harm people on a train. those could carry a maximum of 20 years in prison. there are gun charges, possible hate crime charges, as well as state charges. and just briefly. do they have any idea where are he may be? do they assume he's in the new york area? >> i don't think they have any idea where he is right now. >> thanks so fluch all that. and you've been on the story for more than 24 hours now. the 36-street station is up and running but how are people reacting there? because new yorkers, as you well know, they use the subway, everyone uses the subway in new york. >> reporter: they do. and i'm one of them. the 36-street station sn deed
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open for business. i wouldn't necessarily say it's business as usual and it starts with increased police presence at all 472 stations across manhattan. but here two police officers guarding the steps when you go down into the subway, i also saw four other polices before you go down to the final platform and i talked to half a dozen commuters getting ready to get on the exact same line where the shooting occurred yesterday and they think there's one overall theme is unsettled. one woman said it reminded her of covid, that she was nervous when she had to get on the train but she had to because she had to go to work. and i talked to a mother with her son on spring break from ohio. they were having such a good time anyway, she would come back to new york; that crime is indeed something happening all across the country.
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but those crime statistics are something mayor adams is getting pressure to deal with. going up city wide but going up here. and i heard two men having a very passionate argument about why the camera here didn't work. why they're having so many problems. it's one of the things city officials say they're looking into as part of the investigations. and questions about whether the police officer, who was first to respond, whether his radio didn't work. all those questions are leading city officials, not just here, but across the country to look at what else they can do. obviously addressing the issue of crime. new york city looking at technology that would work kind of like we see in airports. but not as difficult to detect when people have some kind of weapon. so, i think if there was one summary, one person i talked to who i said how are you feeling
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about getting on the subway today? and she said to me,and are eau, i just wanted to get this guy. >> well, people came together. that was one of the remarkable things.. pene yorkers do. you worked in new york. and forensics for the fdny. let's talk about the cameras. i saw an interview last night with stephanie ruhl. she said that so many of them were replaced that they were new cameras; only 32% of the stations had cameras when she first got there a couple of years ago. they were in every station but they're not on the platforms and they need to be. in this case, she was depositing it might -- it may have been the feed from the camera that didn't work. i'm not sure. >> so, that's going to be
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investigated, clearly. i think it's important for the viewers to know that cameras don't prevent these types of incidents. the importance is to create a forensic picture to be used in court and immediately in the aftermath to catch the person that did it. had those cameras been working, the images of the suspect could have been posted yesterday. it's been over 24 hours. he could be anywhere. and that's what's concern issing. in other large cities, like d.c. where we're at, there's cameras on the platforms, the entrances and the train. from deterrent standpoint, a criminal would take a second to think about what they're doing. but from a catching the bad guy standpoint, we're very critical. evil within the cameras working optimally, everyone is wearing a mask. and unfortunately we have a suspects, a photo and hopefully
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every american watching is keeping an eye out for the individual. >> and let's talk about some of the other problems on the subways. he had these videos, youtube videos railing against the mayor. so, his security was improved. but also railing against subways and subway riders. so, he could be targeting in another part of the subway system and another part of the city. >> the social media videos are all over the place. and a lot of potential targets. it doesn't coalesce with ideology and organization. it's a place he lad mentioned. i think we have more to run on now, especially for enabling the public to help identify where this individual might be. this time yesterday we really didn't have any details.
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remarkable turn of events by law enforcement in terms of putting together a lot of details. everything from social media feeds to identification. and so, now that there's more evidence, images like this, even showing him moving to the subway. i think we're going to hear more tips and leads that's going to further empower law enforcement. i imagine they're moving very quickly with the federal government and state and local partners. >> one of the things this brings home is the president's argument this week about ghost guns. the unregistered guns, because this gun was a glock that had been purchased by him and they could trace the crime right back to that gun purchase. >> i think there are two big things the fbi -- i know when i worked there last and struggled with over the last ten years, really, is the proliferation of weapons and the creation of weapons. and going dark.
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encrypted communication apps, and allows criminals to move freely in the information and technology environment. and there's with law enforcement about what you want to do. and you have to give us the tools to do that. that means identify and track weapons and be able to understand how technology is fuelling and works criminalty. and in d.c. and bracing for assault. desperate to evacuate as russia faces accusations of genocide. a ces accusations of genocide.
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more russian troops moving towards eastern ukraine where it's building for the next big military offense. it's much better terrain for vladimir putin because of pro-russian separatists that have been there for years. after the atrocities came to light the last time and the horrific attack on the train station where hundreds were assembling. president biden is describing vladimir putin's actions in ukraine as genocide. >> the ability to fill up your
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tank, none of it should depend on whether your a dictator commits genocide a half a world away. >> reporter: president zelenskyy tweeting in response, true words of a true leader. and chief white house correspondent and ambassador, former u.s. ambassador at large for war crimes issues. now a senior at the holocaust museum. ukrainian president releasing a new video asking for more weapons. >> that's right. he has absolutely spelled it out, leaving nothing up to question. he's basically put out a wish list of the weapons that he wants from the west. take a listen. >> as many as possible. multiple launch rocket systems. grabs with, snares or m 1, armored vehicles, apc, infantry, fighting vehicles, others,
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tanks, t-72 or similar tanks from the u.s.a. or germany. air defense systems, s-300. buk or western equivalence. military aircraft to dead lock our cities and save millions of ukrainian as well as millions of europeans. >> reporter: he is extremely specific, he's said exactly what he wants and last night he took to twitter, after the president used the word genocide. he said he would need a lot more support, especially as the showdown is looming in the donbas. >> our newly released satellite images show russia advancing on the border. how are people in the east preparing? >> reporter: you just heard how president zelenskyy is hoping to prepare. says he needs weapons like these so they can avoid more russian atrocities like we've seen around kyiv. officials in kyiv says they're
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preparing for big battles. they are ready, is what president zelenskyy keeps saying. on the civilian side, officials and the regional governments are warning civilians their window to evacuate is rapidly closing. they're trying to get as many women and children out as quickly as possibility. hampering the effort is train stations are down. the train station in the east was attacked on friday. and so, people in the area are having to get into mini buses, civilian cars and it is completely messed up some very tried and true evacuation for people in the area. >> and ambassador, president biden referring to this as genocide. saying that the lawyers will decide. how much does his saying it, he's the president of the united states, impede or hamper the lawyers? >> i don't think it impedes or hampers the lawyers. i've prosecuted genocide cases in the u.n. ruwanda's tribunal.
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you have to show intent to destroy the people in whole or substantial part. but there are things that really are concerning. massive war crimes, no question about that. the kind of -- particularly the forceful deportations we're seeing. we're still waiting for conformation of where people are being sent. but there may be 10s of thousands forcibly taken to their homes and sent to polar region wbz creating a situation that shows intent to eliminate them or make them assimilate and that could be consistent with genocide. in any case, we have a real risk are of genocide in the situation and that obliges russia and every country to do the maximum to prevent it. >> what you have is war crimes by hunger, by rape, war crimes by execution, shooting civilians, attacking kindergartens, hospitals. clear residential neighborhoods. >> we certainly have that. understand proving something is
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challenging and that's why i'm pleased to see the investigators out there, our french colleagues in the united states will join the joint investigative team that europe is put together. there's question about whether we will. there are 20 countries in it. and we should be part of it like the french investigators that are out there in bucha right now. i think it's important to show that this wasn't rogue units of orders and regular units committing the crimes. putting together the satellite imagery and other things that will give the lie to the russian 's effort to call it fake news. certainly these crimes are war crimes attributing them up the chain will be the challenge. and flattening the city and starving the population.
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those are war crimes and attributable directly. this is an army under the command of vladimir putin. >> and peter baker, as a former moscow bureau chief, you know putin's in charge, he's defined the terms of the engagement. he didn't even have a commander in charge of the whole command operation. his orders, his decisions. it won't be hard to prove chain of command or intent given the past statements about how ukraine isn't even a country. it belongs to russia. >> i think that's exactly what you said is right. in other words, i'm not a lawyer and i can't tell you what qualifies in a legal sense. he may not be trying to wipe out ukrainians as an entire people but he is trying to wipe out the idea of ukrainians as a separate people. he does not believe ukrainians are people, does not believe ukraine as a nation and clearly
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the pictures you're showing right now, the devastation are are so enormous, so brutal, that whatever terminology you want to use, there are clearly crimes against humanity. and what words to use and the question is accountability and what kind of accountability there will be. what kind of accountability will there be when and if the war eventually ends? that's the question. >> and there's debate inside the white house as to whether to pursue this or how to pursue this. whether or not to join the icc to cooperate with their investigation and remarkably, today in the "the new york times," you are gathering evidence. your team's on the ground are gathering evidence in bucha of
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the atrocities. >> exactly right. my incredibly courageous colleague and a team of photographers spent a week in bucha documenting extraordinary crimes against civilians. people randomly shot in the street. sex crimes. a parade of horribles to use an old phrase from the iraq war. it's devastating and you're right they're doing the work that, in some ways, will be done in a no cruel and vicious the war really is. it's a warconquest, of aggression and revenge, i think, on the part ofut, who was in ukraine broke away. they've long resisted being part of that because they don't want americans being part of a
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tribunal. russia is also not a member. it's a question of jurisdiction whether it will make an impact. >> and just to wrap this up, no pun intended, there is a debate over whether to change the laws. there's an agreement with lindsey graham and apparently dick durbin to change a 2002 law, which was to protect u.s. soldiers in iraq from any kind of war crimes accusations and somehow amend that so the u.s. could participate more aggressively and immediately. >> under that law, we can participate in kind. we can send investigators in, hire investigators working with both ukrainian prosecutor, who has jurisdixz and the icc that could take the top cases like putin. and we can do that right now. what we can't do is actually fund the investigation. obviously, to the extent we don't want to put our own people at risk and we'd rather fund, that's something we're barred
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from doing right now. on the other hand, i don't think there's anything that keeps us from putting retired agents and forensic police officers and others in there. working as the french are. >> thank you so much for your experience. peter baker and of course our incredible colleague, molly hunter in kyiv. and are more mask mandates coming back as the ba.2 subvariant spreads? 2 subvariant spreads looking to get back in your type 2 diabetes zone? once-weekly ozempic® can help. ♪ oh, oh, oh, ozempic®! ♪ ♪ oh, oh, oh ♪ ozempic® is proven to lower a1c. most people who took ozempic® reached an a1c under 7 and maintained it. and you may lose weight. adults lost on average up to 12 pounds. in adults also with known heart disease, ozempic® lowers the risk of major cardiovascular events such as heart attack, stroke, or death.
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pockets of the northeast are seeing a spike in covid
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infections driven by the ba.2 subvariant. that's part of the reason the tsa is planning the mask mandate through may 3rd, according to nbc news. and philadelphia is bringing back its indoor mask mandate next week. hospitalizations and new infections are far below this winter's omicron surge. chief medical advisor, dr. anthony fauci, the national institute of allergy and infectious diseases. great to see you. let's talk about the fact, first of all, that we understand the tsa is going to extend the mask mandate for public transportation. it's not announced but that is our reporting. so, given the fact that we're still seeing the surge in yurp, we're still seeing the effects in the northeast, why only 15 days? >> well, i think because it's a moving target and we really want
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to see what the pattern is is here in the united states. i think making a decision for april 18th, i would agree we really do need more time. it isn't like things are static. things are moving. we're seeing an increase throughout the country. we're seeing it more so in certain cities and certain regions than others. and until we get a really good handle on it. i think it's prudent. i mean, i don't know what the official word has been but if they do extend it, i would not be surprised and think that would bow a prudent thing to do. >> fill defl i a's bringing back the mask mandate. is this the right way to go on masks? >> the entire part of the process of the cdc's guidelines at the country level, which each individual county, having the capability of knowing whether you're in a green, a yellow or a
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red zone is broad recommendations. but has always been the indications that individual, local jurisdictions, be they cities, counties, states, can makeup their own mind about what they want to do at the local level, based on the conditions on the ground and that has a lot to do with what is the level of vaccination in the community, the hospital capacity? are they seeing hospitalizations go up? what do they anticipate the problem would be? so, that's perfectly fine if an individual location like a city wants to do that. there's going to be arguments back and forth whether it's the right choice or not. but that's the importance of making individual decisions on the ground. >> about 500 are still dying from covid daily in the u.s. there's a question as to whether the pfizer antiviral pills,
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which can save lives, are getting to enough people. are there ways we can get the pills to more people? >> that's a good point, andrea. there is, i know at least from the information i get, it's somewhat anecdotal but anecdotes that pile up become a trend. there isn't a full appreciation of who should get it, when they should get it and where you wind up getting it. we have the test and treat of 2,000 locations you can actually go and get tested. and if it's available, get it. what we've got to do is get the practicing physicians to realize there's plenty of drug around. being underutilized and it works very well. we know if given in the first three to five days, it can diminish the likelihood of hospitalization by as much as 89 to 90%. so, what we need to do a better job of is getting the practicing
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physician and health care provider on the outside to acknowledge and realization that this isn't available intervention. >> the congress had a larger bill, a $10 billion bill and a $15 billion, which included global aid and the $10 billion never got out of the -- never got voted on. so, i want to ask you about both that appropriation and also the $5 billion that doesn't seem to be on anyone's radar except some members of the senate. that includes money to distribute pills that are pfizer pills that are already purchased, that are bought but are not shots in arms in africa, which only has a 14% vaccination rate. could you address both those issues. >> i think both those issues, andrea, are very unfortunate. we do need the money to continue to do the things that we've been
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doing. the congress, to their credit, and the administration, have been generous in the past 06 getting us the things we need to do the job. we can't just stop because we're still in a deign amic process and need antibodies, vaccines, drugs. including the $5 billion for the international issue that you mentioned. it does not make sense to do what you've been working. i would encourage the congress to please come through with these resources that we need because we are still in the thick of things. things are much better off than they are are now than a year ago, six months ago but now is not the time to pull back on the resources necessary to sustain
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the positive effort that has been going on. >> actually i i don't. the fda is receiving the information from two companies, moderna and pfizer. as you know, there are two different issues there. pfizer has gone back and taken a look at a three-dose combination because it is very clear omicron, with the dose they use, requires three shots and hopefully will get data on that. dosing is a little higher and they're looking at a two-dose vaccine right now for the kids at that age group. so, hopefully the data will be analyzed as expeditiously as possible. which is always the case with
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the fda. they're always very much available to look at the data realtime and coming up with a decision and recommendation we're all waiting for. because obviously everyone wants to have the availability for vaccination of children in that age group. >> how concerning is the outbreak in china? we see the lockdown in shanghai and state department now ordering families out, all nonessential workers out of shanghai. >> their complete lockdown, which was their approach, a strictest lockdown you'd never be able to implement in the united states. although that prevents the spread of infection, i remember early on they were saying, d and i think aciertly they were doing better than anyone else. you use lockdowns to get people vaccinated so that when you open
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up you won't have a surge of infections. because you're dealing with an immunologically naive population of the virus because they've not been exposed because of the lockdown. the problem is the vaccines they've been using are not nearly as effective as the vaccines used in the united states, u.k., eu and other places. so, they don't have the degree of protection that's optimal. and also they have not [ inaudible ] because [ inaudible ] a lot of their older population, which are the most vulnerable among us. and so, there's a double negative there. one, they don't have people who are protected, and b, the people who need it most, are not getting the vaccination. that's the source of the problem in china. >> well, dr. fauci, as always,
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for us that are the public faces of the opposition movement would all leave the country. russia is my home and this is where i have to be. >> hours after that interview, he was arrested. opposition leader, who's also been poisoned is serving nine years in prison, after exposing the alleged palace on the black sea coast in a video that went viral. at the state department yesterday, i asked for aance thorn escalating crackdown on decenters. >> these are not the actions of a government that is confident. these are the actions of a government, of a regime that is fundamentally insecure. >> joining me is someone who's been personally targeted by vladimir putin and successfully lobbied for the munits key act. a great book it is. you personally experienced putin
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coming after you, your friend, sergey who went to prison in russia. standing up to putin has a severe cost. why is it worth it? >> in my case, the reason i'm fighting with putin is 12 years ago, vladimir putin and his regime murdered my lawyer, sergey mag nits ski after he uncovered a scheme. my doughty to sergey and the guilt i feel he was killed in my service has driven me towards a long standing campaign for justice. which has infuriated vladimir putin. one of the people working with me on the passage of the act was vladimir, the person you just
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introduced prior to me. and i was having dinner with him two weeks ago and i begged him not to go. but as he said how can he ask the people of russia 72 to stand up to putin if he can't. >> as you try, in your book, to track all these abuse sdwhz horrors of it and the finances, the global network, just what is vladimir putin worth financially and why is it so difficult to track his wealth? >> i estimated when i testified at the senate jude yags
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committee he was worth $200 billion. i would guess it's well north of that now. it's not that hard to track. we were able to track a small part of the money because of the investigation we did in the magnitsky case, which i did in my book. vladimir putin is a rich man. none of the money is in his own name. it's in the name of oligarch trustees and other trustees. i'm happy that, after ten years of advocating, the world has finally woken up to the fact that these oligarchs, who are basically standing as fronts for putin, are finally being sanctioned and having their assets frozen. i wish this had happened a while ago because vladimir putin has been give an free pass and that's emboldened him more and more to the point he's killing innocent civilians of ukraine
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and opressing his own people at home. >> and the u.s. going after his family, the adult daughters. is that symbolic or does that good etto him? >> i think anything you do that shows disrespect is helpful. i don't think anything is in his daughters' name but it does send a message that if you kill 10s of thousands of innocent ukrainians, you're not let off the hook and everybody around you isn't let off the hook. prrts it's about their family members, extend trustees and so on and so forth and we have to touch them all to make a point to putin, which is there will be consequences for are what you do. >> you are one of the early warners of exactly what is happening. book is "freezing order." thank you so much for speaking
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out, writing and devoting your life to this. thank you. >> thank you. and growing up biden. the president's sister and long-time campaign manager on the upcoming midterms, her new memoir and women in politics. this is "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. ll reports" on msnbc.
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the voters' number one concern is inflation, how the historic rise is effecting people's it's impacting people's pocketbooks. former president obama speaking about the headwinds that the white house and all democrats are facing this year, in an exclusive interview with al roker on the "today" show. >> people feel exhausted by covid, that the dampen the mood. inflation is a real issue. a lot of it has to do with covid and now putin's tax consequences, but the underlying economy, there's a good story to tell. democrats have to go out and tell the story. >> my next guest is no strange tore crafting a political message, valley biden-owens has
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worked on every one of her brothers as campaigns. now she's share her own story as a woman in a man's world and a story of a famously close family. joining me is valerie biden owens. she's the author of a new books. hi. thanks for having me. >> great to see. your brothers is famous oy lil, and you write about lindsey graham, who you write is now unrecognizable to the lindsey graham that your brother knew for decades. joe manchin today blaming the biden administration for failing to act fast enough on inflation. how does that criticism land on the president? >> okay, just failing to act fast enough, because it's breaking up -- on what? >> against inflation.
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>> oh, well, you must say my brother is a very powerful leader, but there are certain thing. he can't droll everything. he's working hard with the congress to bring inflation down, all of the machinations of government that i don't understand or appreciate them automatic, but i know he's trying to -- we have been slammed with inflation because of covid, because of the supply chain, because of putin, and he's -- he's trying to bring us all together instead of blaming the other team for what they haven't done or -- i'm surprised that that kind of discussion is going on when we're all in this together, and we have to -- this is about american families, about food on the table, and about gasp pumps, medicine. you know, we should be working
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together instead of pointing the fingers whose fault it is. it's all of our responsibilities. >> a defining characteristic, really in the presidential campaign, do you think that affects his reactions to the horrors in what we are seeing in ukraine? >> yeah. remember in the interview when he was in poland, and he held those children and the moms who were the refugees from ukraine, and, you know, some people have a great ability to appreciate and understand someone else's feelings, even if they never felt the loss or felt that particular pain. other people like my brother, maybe has that innate ability, but he's also felt the actual pain. he knows what it's like to have
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lost a child, two children. he knows what it's like to have lost a spouse. his empathy comes from within. besides his empathy, which we all know about. he is whip smart. he channels it, i believe in the right directions. it's one thing to have knowledge, then there's another thing to use it wisely. i think that's what he does with his empathy and his knowledge. >> you know, you write about that first senate race this 1972. you write -- i had no inkling of the hostile environment for women in politics at that time. i didn't know the prevailing sentiment was that women had no business running political campaigns. i know a lot about being the only woman back in the room back in those days. >> yeah. >> how did you get through the
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ugly, tough moments. >> one of the easy things would have been to talk to you, because you walked the walk, too. i had it easier than a lot of women did, because to get a seat at the table, myobrother was at the head of the table. he was the booze. when he pulled up a chair for me and said, hey, guys, whatever she says, assume that i've said it. she is my voice, and pay attention to her. so in that sense, i had an easier time. but once he left the room, i still was viewed to be considered a token woman orel token relative at the stable, so i had to assistant on my own, but i had a great dose of confidence that my brother gave me. he told me anything he could do,
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i could do better. i had his total trust, and i grew up with a wonderful father and three brothers and i have a great husband. so i'm very comfortable eastern men. i've found only weak men are threatened by strong women. you helped raise beau after the tragic loss. you were mother to them for so long. it must be very long to deal with hunter and his struggles. he's written openly about his struggles. how concerned are you as a member of the family about the way those business decisions are now casting him in a bad light? >> well, the same business decisions, the same issues from six years ago, you know, when we came into this race. i think it was 2018 it started, maybe sooner. so hunter has spoken to all of
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this. there's been nothing there. there's nothing there there. i don't know when the former president will drop hi drive to go after my brother in any way he can, personally and professionally. i knew -- i write in the book that this was the only race i was hesitant of getting in, in 2020, because i knew that the former president would do anything to try to destroy my brother. so i wasn't keen on jumping in, but then i was all in after charlottesville, and i knew that joe was the right person at the right time for all the right reasons. we've been through a whole lot worse than this, and we'll be able to take whatever they throw at us, i'm confident of that. >> i know that the justice department is also investigating, so there's more to come on that, so it's got to
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be tough for the whole family. >> thank you. -- yeah, with the justice department. it will be okay. i didn't meaning to cut you off. that bad satellite delay. congratulations on the book. >> thank for having me, andrea. that does it for this edition. remember, follow us online, on facebook and on twitter. chuck todd starts, right after this. k todd wstarts, right afte this to help prevent bleeding gums, try saying hello gumwash with parodontax active gum health. it kills 99% of plaque bacteria and forms an antibacterial shield. try parodontax active gum health mouthwash.
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if it's wednesday, president biden accuses vladimir putin of genocide, as the u.s. plans to expand its military support. a member of ukraine's parliament joins me outside of kyiv. investigators are poring through a trail of evidence. we'll have the latest on the investigation. and, later, alabama is now the first state in the nation to mak -- we're live in montgomery. who is it that would be arrested for this? that's coming up. e arrested for this that's coming up