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good morning, everyone. this is "andrea mitchell reports" in washington. as ukraine says, they have dealt a major blow to russia's naval fleet in the back sea. ukrainian officials say the flagship vessel is sinking after taking missile fire. but russia is saying the damage was caused by an ammunition fire and officials say the ship is still afloat. this is how admiral stavridis characterized the blow. >> the first thing at annapolis, the first thing they teach you is never let your ship blow up. it's like the navy said, wait, hold my beer, let me show you what we can do. and the brooklyn subway shooting suspect frank james
will make his initial court appearance. police sources say a call alerting officers to his lower manhattan came from james himself. the north carolina state board of elections today removing trump former chief of staff mark meadows from the voter rolls after he registered to vote from a trailer where he never lived after already voting. he's being held in contempt of congress from refusing to respond to a subpoena from the january 6th committee. let's start first with the war in ukraine and joining me now nbc news correspondent gabe gutierrez just outside of ukraine's capital and william
cooper. tell us more about that russian warship that has been seriously damaged and the latest you're seeing on the ground there in ukraine. >> thank you, good morning. while picking up on admiral stavridis's comments, this is definitely seen as a huge boost for the morale of the ukrainians. as you said, russia not elaborating on the cause of this fire on the warship with the ukrainians saying the cruise missiles took it out. regardless, this is potentially a significant blow for the russians in their war effort to the south. as the fighting intensifies in the east, we're getting a closer look, andrea, at all the destruction in and around kyiv. think is about 45 miles west of the capitol and this used to be a kindergarten. if you take a look over here, you can see just how close these bombs came to a playground, andrea. there is absolutely no way this could have been confused for a
military target. now, this is the second kindergarten we have visited in the last several days in this area. the local superintendent tells us that two-thirds of the schools here have been destroyed. right now parents don't know where their children will go to school. you can just see all this destruction. now this area has been cleared for land mines but this is something that ukrainian authorities are looking at right now. they're going to these different communities and they're trying to clear the area of booby-traps, land mines, trip wires that the russian soldiers may have left behind as they retreated. now, earlier today we spoke with one woman. here local officials have said they have found more than 130 bodies so far since the russian retreat. there was one woman we spoke with, she was 75 years old and the war came to her doorstep. she told us how about at least
15 people had been killed in an air strike in the building just in front of her home. it used to be a bakery several years ago. we understand from talking neighbors that it may have been a place where certain ukrainian soldiers were staging as they fought back the russians. take a listen to some of my conversation with her just a short time ago. >> could have thought that two countries and one countries, the soviet union, in my old days that they would come here to kill us. >> reporter: that just illustrates a complicated history between these two countries. ukraine formerly a part of the soviet union. there are some older ukrainians we've been speaking with to say this is just heart breaking these two countries are now pitted against each other and one more comment, andrea, if you look behind me again, this is a kindergarten that's just been obliterated.
where do these parents, these teachers, these educators go from here. the ones that are still here, many have no electricity, no power, no water. where will these children go to school with two-thirds of their schools destroyed? the superintendent said virtual learning, that doesn't -- that can't happen here. they have no access to the internet. so it begs the question how does this -- what does this recovery look like and is it even possible? we can tell you there were volunteers here cleaning up this school today. they hope to rebuild as soon as they can. >> gabe, it's just so dramatic. and attacking a kindergarten by definition is a war crime. you don't need a whole lot of investigation to figure out what that is. and dan, what are you learning about the pentagon about the bigger implications about the
warship that was damaged and the $800 million new in military aid that the president and secretary of state announced yesterday for ukraine? >> andrea, the pentagon is still not able to confirm or rule out exactly what happened to that russian navy ship off the coast. the ukrainians saying they hit it with that anti-ship missile. they do say there was at least one major explosion. the russians are acknowledging that there was a fire, that they had to evacuate the crew of 500 and tow this warship back to port. in any case, clearly an embarrassment for russia and on top of all of their logistical and organizational problems, it calls into question again the russian military's ability to wage this offensive where they've just encountered one setback after another. now they're facing a ukraine that's going to be better armed. there's this major military package on the way that includes
new weapons that the ukrainians have been asking for. they feel they're going to be facing a new type of fight now in the east. they're going to be getting artillery drone ships, which is an extraordinary modern weapon that will make up with the small navy they have to harass the russian navy further and then they're going to be getting armored vehicles and more radar and more javelins that they've heard so much about, that shoulder-launch weapon that's allowed them to take out so many more russian tanks. the ukrainians say they're going to be getting russian-made helicopters, which could also be a tremendous advantage for them. they've lost some helicopters in their fleet. so a major battle looming now in the east and it's unclear if the russians will be able to organize themselves more effectively after so many setbacks. >> dan, thanks so much on that. helene, i want to talk to you about what the pentagon spokesman, admiral john kirby
had to say earlier on "morning joe" about russia's forces and where they're moving right now. >> we don't believe they have overcome all their unit problem and unit morale, all those problems are bedevilling the russian military. because the russians are resupplying, refitting and trying to reinforce their forces in the donbas. we can see it happening now. >> how can these weapons make a difference in eastern ukraine? how quickly can they get there in terms of the supply chain? >> thanks for having me. the weapons have been getting to ukraine spectacularly quickly actually when you look at the way this kind of stuff usually goes and in the past, over the past almost, what, seven weeks now, the united states and the biden administration has been
managing to get weapons to ukraine within like a day, would i even say hours of these announcements that president biden comes up when he makes these announcements. so expect these to be -- we asked yesterday during one of the briefings how soon for instance, and who will be flying the helicopters over the pentagon wouldn't talk about it at the time but this is already entrained. i was just listening to that clip of john kirby speaking. it's really interesting to hear how careful in a lot of ways he's not being when he describes the russian military performance now. american officials are loath to publicly say the russian military is doing a horrible job because at any point they expect that the military will correct its errors. but if you listen to kirby now compared to seven weeks ago when
this war first started where he would say very carefully they're moving a little slower than we expected but we think they'll correct it sooner. now he's flat out and saying they still haven't corrected their mistakes, they're still messing up. it's really interesting to are me listening to how the tone has shifted, how the administration seems willing to more publicly flat out express their surprise at the dismal performance of that military. the taking out of the ship can't be understated. it will prevent others from getting too close to the coastline. it will stymie them getting close to the coast. ship captains will be -- they're not going to come as close as
they could. so the idea and i'm very curious by how quiet the pentagon has been about whether or not the united states shared any intelligence with ukraine over how to strike that ship. we don't have any information on that yet but that's one of the questions i plan to be asking. >> clearly, yes. let me ask you about finland and sweden. the leaders of those two countries yesterday jointly saying it could be weeks before they make an official request to nato. nato basically preapproved and i'm not sure of the politics anymore. it was 91-0, i believe, in approving macedonia just in 2019. but the politics right now in the u.s. senate on the republican side -- >> i don't know. i'm curious as to how that shakes down, too.
it doesn't seem like it would be that hard. it shouldn't be that hard an issue for the american senate but i don't know where the republicans are going to land on this. i think that's something that definitely bears future questioning. the fact that these countries are now running to nato is the polar opposite of what vladimir putin wanted to see happening. so it is a big deal. >> you've got the two women who lead finland and sweden right now. times are changing. slowly changing but changing. and frank james, the suspect in the brooklyn subway shooting will have his first hearing in federal court this afternoon.
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his identity established within hours by tracing the gun, fireworks and other evidence he had left behind before fleeing the smoke-filled car and continuing to ride the subway. >> jesse, how are people in new york reacting to this arrest? >> reporter: andrea, i think people have been watching this close very closely. we were outside of the precinct where james was being held and there were people who lived right above the precinct to told me they came outside just to watch what was unfolding, people staring out of windows and here in brooklyn this morning outside of the courthouse, people walking their children to school, going on their morning runs, some people have come up to us and asked what we were doing here because there's a substantial media presence here
outside of the courthouse and as soon as we said the alleged suspect from the subway shooting was here, people were immediately aware of what that meant. i think frankly there's been a lot of anxiety for people across the city riding public transit and that didn't start earlier this week. there have been a lot of high-profile incidents with public safety. just to give you a glimpse of what this incident has had an impact from doing, according from numbers from last tuesday to this tuesday, so from a week ago into the day of the shooting, the number of riders on the new york super way system dropped by more than 300,000 people. obviously we are still not at prepandemic ridership numbers, people aren't working full weeks in the office necessarily, but that gives you a sense of the potential dropoff and even from this past monday until the day of the shooting in that one-day
time frame, the mta says there was a drop of about 5% of ridership. certainly there are people who did not get back on the train because of what unfolded. >> pete williams, what can we expect at this initial court appearance, there's a federal charge. any additional charges that might come up? it was a legal gun. >> there could be additional federal charges. the gun was purchased legally, even though he had several brushes with the law, none of those resulted in felony convictions. that would have been disqualifying. he legally bought the gun 11 years ago at a pawn shop in columbus, ohio. the brooklyn d.a. office says there are no plans to start state charges. and it's the federal train wrecking law makes it a crime to attack a mass transportation
system. normally that statute carries a maximum sentence of 20 years of prison but there's an enhancement section. if the transportation mode that's attacked has passenger, then the maximum sentence is life in prison. he's facing a potential life sentence here. this is the only federal charge he faces at this point, andrea. there could be additional charges. there could be a firearm charge of transporting a firearm across state lines with intent to commit a crime. he rented the u-haul and drove into brooklyn the morning of the attack. he'll be formally advised of the charges today and at some point the judge will set bail but i can't imagine he'd be allowed out on bail while pending trial. >> there's so much video evidence that's been compiled.
we know that camera wasn't working at the subway situation where the 35th street station, where exactly it happened, but look at all the other video evidence of him coming in, of him leaving and of him driving across the bridge earlier that day coming into new york. >> the video evidence is strong but the strongest of all is the evidence he left behind the enormous stash of material on the subway car, the bag of the fireworks and then the key to the u-haul, a credit card with his name on it but most critically the gun used in the shooting, he had apparently tried to obliterate the serial numbers, and the atf was able to use that serial number to trace the gun to him. that's the single most devastating evidence here. >> again, just another emphasis of the administration being
right in trying to crack down on those ghost guns that don't have serial numbers and can't be traced. >> exactly. >> thank you so much to pete williams and jesse kirsch. >> president biden is heading to north carolina today to try to get prices under control and will voters buy in? control and will voters buy in or waiting for the 7:12 bus... or sunday afternoon in the produce aisle. these moments may not seem remarkable. but at pfizer, protecting the regular routine, and everyday drives us to reach for exceptional. working to impact hundreds of millions of lives... young and old. it's what we call, the pursuit of normal. ♪ ♪ you're pretty particular about keeping a healthy body. what goes on it... usually. ♪♪
we have breaking news. the russian vessel we were just reporting on, reuters is reporting a senior u.s. defense official, this is at a background briefing attended by our correspondents as well, says that the u.s. believes the warship is still dealing with fire. the assumption is it is heading to a major port in crimea, which is russia controlled on the black sea. officials said earlier the vessel was sinking after taking ukrainian fire that was not confirmed by the u.s. military while russia claims it was caused by an ammunition fire, not a ukrainian attack. with the inflation rate fueled by higher gas prices
reaching rates not since 1981, the president is set to speak at the largest black university about the economy. joining me is peter baker and cnbc's senior analyst and commentator, our old friend ron. great to see you both. the president repeatedly blaming higher costs and inflation on putin, the putin gas takes and polling shows americans aren't buying it. how important is it for him to try to persuade america he is not to blame for the higher inflation? >> it's going to be a tough thing. inflation was on the rise before the war in ukraine started. obviously there's a lot of factors that feed into that, including supply chain issues, including wage growth, including the response to the pandemic.
i'm not an economist and can't speak to that in great detail. obviously russia reminds people that instability in the world can have greater economic consequences at home. president biden has two tasks, one to do something about inflation and, two, to show people he's doing something about inflation. he needs to show people he understands the pain it's causing a lot of people. it's eating away at the household income and raises they have had. he doesn't have that many tools to do it. inflation is better fought by the federal reserve and this is a world wide problem but he can't simply wash it away when they tried to at first and said it's transitory and will go away on its own. >> one of the fed governors was saying in a speech yesterday that don't depend on the fed to
single handedly fix this inflation problem. there's no fix for the president either. doing more on semiconductors. all that is down the road. >> absolutely down the road. and, no, there's no quick fix. were it not for the pandemic and the war, i think to be fair, no matter who was president or who would be president right now, they would be dealing with this exact same problem. the pandemic, by the way, is still raging in china. we have, as i read it this morning, as many as 30% or as much as 30% of china's population in partial or total lockdown, which is further disrupting supply chains and the delivery of manufacturing goods. the war in ukraine has disrupted the world energy market. while we're energy self-sufficient, the price of oil is set on the world stage
and the federal reserve from my perspective will drive demand down. they're going to slow the economy to bring demand down to artificially low levels of supply. as larry summers said earlier today there is a risk of recession if the fed goes too far and the real cure is not higher interest rates and slower demand but greater supplies of the goods we currently have shortages of and that's everything from homes to cars to food, all of this again not to defend the president per se, but this is all related still to the pandemic and the war. >> these are unexpected emergencies. but overall, peter, there was a sound economy, there is a sound economy, but people are really feeling it and they're feeling it where it really hurts in terms of the prices in groceries, and you're going to see more of that from the war as we and other really critical
supplies, exports from ukraine and russia are affected. and also at the pump. similarly from the war now. peter. >> yeah, this is the frustrating thing for president biden and the white house is there are a lot of good economic indicators to point to. jobs are rising rapidly. the unemployment rate is at nearly at a 50-year low. you know, wages are going up. there's a lot of good news out there but it is overshadowed by this inflation. that's the thing people are noticing very, very acutely in their daily lives. they go to the pump, go to the grocery store, they see the prices going up. and that's hard for an administration to counter. hard for them to say, hey, guys, the economy is doing really well except for this because the "except for this" part is what people are noticing. >> ron, before i let you go, i want to ask you about an
unrelated issue in the marketplace today, which is elon musk offering to buy twitter. he's already bought so much of twitter stock. what will you tell us about how we will proceed. >> it's an unsolicited hostile takeover offer. it's worth about a $43 billion price tag. we don't know and analysts don't know if he's serious, if he really wants to buy it, if he'll walk away. he's offer $54.20 a share in cash to buy it and restructure it. elon, as you know, is as much a genius as he is a mercurial character. or he may really have the intention temperature he can buy it. he's got more than enough money
to do so. we simply from all the analysts we surveyed this morning don't know what his ultimate goal is and don't know if he would just walk away from the board's meeting this morning if he's rebuffed in his current bid, which he says is his first and final offer. >> would this have to have sec approval? >> for him to purchase the company or the actual approval will probably, if anything, would require ftco d.o.j. regulatory approval, which is doubtful needed here because he doesn't really have any conflicts in owning that versus tesla or spacex. >> to be continued. watch this space. >> thanks so much. ron and peter, great to see you
as always. >> they are looking into whether meadows, a former white house chief of staff and supported trump's false claims of widespread voter fraud, registered using an address where he never lived. he lived and voted in virginia in 2021. nbc's jane timm has the story. >> he was removed because he started voting in another state. election officials communicate that way to get the information around. the media reports trace his previous registration address to a modest home in the woods of
macon county, north carolina and neighbors aren't sure if he's ever visited. his wife has been there. there's a retail manager at lowe's who did own that property. so this is an unusual case. now, state law allows people who live somewhere else like d.c. to maintain residency in their home state with a plan to return. but the question is whether or not he ever lived this. you do have to have lived there to start your residency there. >> this is exactly what he and president trump have been -- with no cases -- no evidence of widespread fraud. thank you very much. and a dose of relief. we're following new data on a covid booster for children as
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26-year-old unarmed black man was fatally shot by a police officer. the grand rapids police department just released video after he was stopped because his license play was not registered to the car. the police chief said video and audio were not edited except to blur for areas of privacy. the officer can be heard yelling "stop resisting" and "let go of the taser." finally the officer pins him to the ground and finally shoots him in the head. and the officer is on paid leave pending a michigan state police investigation. a county prosecutor is going to have to ultimately decide if that officer will face criminal charges joining me with more on this really disturbing incident is megan fitzgerald.
can you take us through what the police department is saying about these videos from grand rapids. how do they justify shooting someone in the head who was not armed? >> a lot of questions are emerging. we did hear from the grand rapid department. tragic situation, very difficult to watch this video. offering condolences had the own it and he said, this is still have very active ond ongoing investigation. michigan state police is conducting the lead investigation on this situation. this will all be turned over to the prosecutor's office to determine whether or not charges will be filed. the chief has said if charges are not filed, he will not be releasing the name of this officer. we know this officer is a seven-year veteran of the force and as you mentioned, he's on
paid administrative leave. the chief saying he believes these four pieces of video because he wanted to be transparent but they are raising a lot of questions. one of them the chief was pressed on yesterday is does he believe based on this video that this officer followed department policy, department protocol and the chief did not want to answer that question at that time. but, look, this is a community that is frustrated and angry. we have seen them taking to the streets over the last several days, calling for justice, calling for this officer to be charged, but they're homosexual and i want you to listen to what one protester had to say. >> i was angry. i was very angry. i feel there is a lot of change that needs to be done. there should have been more action to him and try to
understand why he is so scared. >> a lot of questions from the community and certainly from patrick's family. they emigrated from this and right now they are represented by a civil rights attorney, benjamin crumb, who issued a statement. he says, the video clearly shows that this was an unnecessary, excessive and fatal use of force again an unand he was hair tied for husband life. we are and they're calling for charges against this officer and an end to this.
>> andrea? >> it's really disturbing, megan. what comes to mind is whether there was a language issue, a communication issue as well? how one ukrainian family was reunited with relatives in the u.s.? they're making plans to stay but it's one family among thousands. this is "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. a mitchel reports" only on msnbc
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nbc's erin gill crest has more on their emotional reunion with family membersall are ready here. >> reporter: after 24 hours of travel through three different countries, yvonne, mila and their four children finally made it to u.s. soil, reunited with relatives they hadn't seen in years. just hours later, the family saw their new home for the first time. >> reporter: a stark contrast to the home they left near kyiv more than a month ago. are ar >> they travelled through western ukraine and northeastern
romania, reaching safety in bucharest. an almost 700 mile journey but their journey started in 2017 when they submitted their first refugee status application to u.s. citizenship and immigration services, hoping to settle in the united states. >> reporter: they say it was a long process of interviews, paperwork and waiting eventually delayed by covid-19 and then the war in ukraine. >> reporter: victor, their oldest child, just 11, told nbc news he was worried for his three younger sisters. he said he feels better now and wants to stay in the u.s. long term. before the war, mila was a technical engineer at an
aircraft factory and yvonne a designer at one of ukraine's largest telecomcompanies. now they're ready for a chance at a normal life in the u.s. they're some of the first ukrainians to be resettled through the u.s. refugeed a missions program since the beginning of russia's invasion of ukraine. >> at a time when we see more than 4.2 million are refugees, u.s. has to provide as well. >> reporter: while thousands of ukrainians have entered in recent weeks with valid visas and asylum requests, america has only settled 12 ukrainians since march. "the administration is considering the full range of available legal pathways to the united states for ukrainians." and noted that another state department program has resettled 704 refugees so far in the fiscal year 2022. >> we see the relief on the
ukrainian-american family's faces immediately upon reunification. but of course we think about how many are still in harm's way. >> reporter: even in safety, reunited with his family, he still feels the pain of seeing russian troops occupy his country. >> reporter: he says is is he wonders how president putin can threaten the world and remain unpunished. >> our thanks to aaron gilcrest for that. and the ukrainian man was comparing putin to a modern day
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