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i'll be back tomorrow. "politics nation" starts right now. welcome to "politics nation" tonight's lead -- the simp for solutions. this week we have seen troubling reminders that certain persistent problems that won't go away until we rise up. in ukraine, citizens are bracing for a new russian assault. that u.s. intelligence --. it seems clear an international agreement is needed to put an end to the violence. we will have the latest ahead.
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meanwhile, here in the u.s., another black man is dead after an encounter with police in grand rapids, michigan. we have seen countless marchings, endless dialogue, benjamin crump joins us later to talk about it, along with peter lyoya, father of patrick lyoya. as millions of americans scrimped and save, the cost of everything is skyrocketing. inflation has hit a 40-year high. families of color are among those hardest hit by the sudden spike in prices. how democratic caucus chair hakim jeffries is here to talk about what his party can do to get the economy on track with the mid terms loom up. it's a lot to cover, so let's get started with the latest from
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ukraine. nbc's ali arouzi joins me from lviv, ukraine. there is new reports from russian state media that one of his army's general was killed in ukraine during a military operation. though nbc news cannot yet verify that information, can you tell us what you know? >> reporter: good evening. just let me tell you that's the all clear air raid siren. now it's saying people with emerge from the shelters. now to that russian general. he was the deputy commander of the 8th army. there was a big ceremony for him today in petersburg. it's not usual that they will
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talk about the loss of a high-ranking figure like this, but they spoke about him being a russian hero to liberate them from what they call the ukrainians, which is quite ironic, given the am of damage that the russian have done. that could be as indication of where the russians are looking at next. the focus of their attention has been on the donbas area, talking about this general being a hero trying to defend that area. all of that is -- the ukrainians have been embracing themselves. so this could be, in russia to
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justify what they're going to do. over the last few days since the ukrainians sunk the symbol of russian military might, there have been intensified attacks across the country. yesterday they hit a residential area in, and jets had fired four cruise missiles at an unknown location in and around lviv. they were intercepted by the ukrainian air defenses. things have intensified. there's an almighty battle going on for mariupol. the russians say they're going to try to take it over, but there are about 1500 ukraiian troops, but that place is a
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cascading humanitarian disaster. the city council there say that the russians are trying to cover up war crimes in mariupol. they're not letting people bury their loved ones. they're exhumans bodies there so they can cover up the evidence, according to the city council. the governor of mariupol says that city was once a thriving port city. now it's been wiped off the map. so all indications from the russians are that they're pressing ahead with this war, trying to gain momentum they haven't been able to gain so far. >>al i arouzi, thanks for your report. please stay safe. joining me now is congressman jeffrie -- much to
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the dissatisfaction of russian are you satisfied with president biden's handling of the conflict so far? do you expect congress to step in at some point and authorize more aid either for the ukrainian government or refugees in the country, including refugees of color, who we have been hearing have experienced particular difficulties escape the war zone. >> good afternoon. thanks for all you do. i've been very satisfied with the effort led by president biden in pulling together the free world, nato, our european and western allies to stand strongly behind ukraine. the congress has authorized more than $300 billion in military, humanitarian and economic aid to
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the people in ukraine, that the biden administration is facilitating each and every day, each and every week, as the war unfortunately drags on. but this is a conflict that we have to prevail in, because it's not just a battle between ukraine and russia. this is a conflict between freedom and tyranny, between democrat sick and dictate orship, between truth and propaganda. democracy must prevail at the end of the day. i'm confidence that president biden is doing everything in his power to make sure that happens. >> now "new york times" is out with an analysis that warns ukraine is diverting the biden administration's attention from the agenda at home just months away from the mid terms. chief of staff ron klain said to check -- chuck todd that the
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white house still wants to push bills regarding innovation and covid relief, but he acknowledges time is running out. what can democrats get done before voters head to the polls? the economy is on a lot of voters' minds. what can the democrats and congress get done? >> we're going to continue to work on lowering costs for everyday americans, to address the moment we find ourselves in, which is an incredibly strong economy, but also an economy where gas prices have increased and we've seen some inflationary pressures, particularly around food prices. a lot of this can be traced to the pandemic, to supply chain challenges, to the imbalance of supply and demand, but that's not important, as it relates to the people that i represent, and everyday americans all across the country who are having difficulty making ends meet. so i think we're going to lean
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into making child care more affordable, so that no american pays more than 7% of their income, no family on child care. the rest of the western development world has done this. we need to do it here in the united states of america. we're going to lower the high price of life-saving drugs. we already have legislation to lower the price of insulin. we also want to invest in education affordable, perhaps by eliminating some student load dead, as well as invest in the create of preservation of affordable housing. i believe that there's a lot that can happen. we've got to see what our partners are able to do in the senate, but we stand ready to deliver on large parts of the president's domestic agenda, while he continues to lead the free world.
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>> let's talk about the fatal police shooting of patrick lyoya in grand rapids, michigan he was shot after a struggle after a traffic stop. they joined me later in the show. what's your reaction to this incident and the fact that we keep seeing these problems with police killing, with no real reform, and we have to deal with the balance, i've been saying for some time now, that we have to deal with public safety. we had a shooting on subways in brooklyn, new york, and we've got to deal with public safety and issues like mental health, but we can't let police just be unleashed here. is there a possibility of
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dealing with police reform legislatively this year? >> certainly my hope is we can find some common ground with the senate. we've previously palaced the policing act in the senate, which is a comprehensive forward-looking effort, but at the same time ensure that there's accountability whenever we have police misconduct or the excessive use 6 force or we have to lean into police reform, but at the same time, as you've indicated, also make sure that we're strengthening the partnership between the police and the community for the good of everyone involved. it's clear that jersey floyd just in policing act at the moment does not have 60 votes to
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pass the senate, but there are parts of that bill that perhaps can be taken up. the congressional blake caucus are looking at that dynamic to see what is possible where we can find common ground hopefully tim scott will see the need to lift up the principles of liberty and justice for all, and equal protection under the law, which are constitutional principles, that often are undermined whenever we see tragedies like we witnessed in grand rapid, michigan. >> it's just too much. we have to stop both cops and robbers from instilling fear in our communities. congressman, before i let you go, i know you have been working with a bipartisan group for new regulations on cannabis.
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mean title this week glen youngkin has proposed new penalties, less nan a year after had is state became the first in the south to legalize recreational use. millions of americans are now using this substance legally and businesses are profiting from it. >> glen youngkin is on the wrong side of history. he should be ashamed of himself. with respect to what we need to do at the federal level -- decriminalize marijuana, so that it is no longer something that can result in the criminal prosecution at the federal level
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of young people and people all across the country, but disproportionately black and latino communities have been on the wrong side of criminal prosecutions. that has to end. two, we need to expunge low-level marijuana convictions, so that we are not just moving forward with reform, but we are reaching back to lift up those who have been adseriously impacted by the failed war on drugs. third, we have to ensure that there is diversity, equity and inclusion in terms of the cannabis industry that will be legalized in terms of creating economic opportunities, particularly in the neighborhoods that have been overrun by the failed war on drugs. we've got legislation, the more act that's already passed the house of representatives, and also a bipartisan effort that i'm working on, let by david
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joyce, to ensure that the federal government is preparing for legalization, so that there can be an equitable transition, when ultimately we're able to decriminalize marijuana nationally all across the country. >> all right. hakim jeffries, representative from brooklyn and the prince of crown heights, i would say, thank you for being with us today. after the break, the gop's refusal to recognize the contribution of black judges doesn't stop with justice designee ketanji brown jackson. later, patrick's lyoya's father and benjamin crump joins me. first, my colleague rich art lui, with today's top new
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stories. >> rev, the omicron variant hit a new record today in shanghai, 23,500 new cases in china's largest city, this despite an aggressive policy and three-week lockdown. people are protesting the government moves as many factories that supply goods to the west also go dark. nearly 5,000 people were under evacuation orders in new mexico. a fire has destroyed more than 200 homes, killed two people in a drought-stricken area. showing progress overnight. about 60 left back. the cause is still not known. the national zoo celebrates the 50th anniversary of the first giant pandas in d.c. the chinese ambassador remarked this weekend how the two countries can work together, not only in the area of panda
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conservation. more "politics nation" after this break. "politics nation" ar this break wait, you're new too nobody told you? subway's refreshing with better ingredients, better footlongs, and better spokespeople. because you gotta you gotta refresh to be fresh ♪ ♪ do your eyes bother you? because after all these emails, my eyes feel like a combo of stressed, dry and sandpaper. strypaper? why do we all put up with this? when there's biotrue hydration boost eye drops. biotrue uses naturally inspired ingredients like an electrolyte, antioxidant, even your tears' own moisturizer. and no preservatives. these ingredients are true to your eyes' biology. see? bio.true.
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for this week's "gotcha" i'm calling out house republicans, who refusioned to honor a trailblazing black judge, and some couldn't even tell you why. two republican senators from florida, sponsored to name a federal courthouse in tallahassee after the late just hatchee, the first black man to serve on the florida supreme court, and first black judge to be appointed to a federal appeals court in the deep south. naming buildings are normally noncontroversial, but not this time. a georgia congress mast named andrew clyde launched a crusade against honoring judge, because
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of a 1999 decision he made against student-approved prayers at public school gradual ceremonies. it followed supreme court precedence, but that doesn't matter to congressman clyde or the other republicans who joined him in voting no. among then verne buchanan, who helped to write the bill in the first place. when asked why he changed his mind, he said, he didn't know. this type of herd mentality seems to have become the norm in the gop, and the people leading the partily the nose are often the most extreme voices, and the ones most motivated by racial politics. congressman clyde has a long history of opposing civil rights legislation, such as the emmett till anti-lynching bill and a
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bill to recognize juneteenth as a federal holiday. when a person is being honored for a lifetime achievement, you can be sure that someone can find something in their long careers that they don't like. many of the same republicans who voted against honors judge hatchett gave a standing ovation to the late rush limbaugh, when he was given the presidential medal of fremont done in 2020, even those his scandal with his much larger, and his contributions were far more dubious. the republicans who actively deny justice hatchett his due for a lifetime the service, owes us a better explanation, in some ways i'm even more concerned for the gop members who followed
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them blindly. i'm starting to get the impression that those republicans will go along with almost anything. i gotcha. will go along with almost anything. i gotcha
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welcome back to "politics nation." there's mounting pressure for justice in grand rapids, michigan. right now demonstrators are continues their days long protest off the shooting of patrick lyoya. the family of two was shod by a grand raps police officer on the morning of april 4th. new videos released by the police department show the final moments of patrick's life. lyoya is seen in dash cam footage being pulled over in a residential neighborhood, where both he and the officer, who has
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not publicly been identified exit their vehicles. from the interaction it turns violent. we should know that certain portion of the videos are blurred bid police, not by nbc news. the two men wrestle on the ground. as the officer appears to unholster his taser, he's been heard to tell lyoya to let go or drop the taser as he pins him down. moments later, the 26-year-old was shot in the head while facedown on the ground. patrick's family is mourning his death as police work to investigate what led to the use of deadly force joins me is patrick's dad, his interpreter, and benjamin crump.
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ben, let me go to you first. they came to the united states to flee war from the democratic republic of congo. now their son has died at the hands of police. they have made calls for the identity of the officer who killed their son. also, they want to see him charged and prosecuted. the grand rapids police department says they won't release the officer's name, because he isn't charged. why is knowing the name so important to the family as they work to seek justice? >> they want to know and see the face of the individual who executed their son. this police officer escalated a simple misdemeanor traffic stop for tag registration into a deadly execution, where they shot his son in the back of the
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head. reverendal, leaders in this country and all around the world of rightfully condemning russian soldiers for shooting unarmed civilians in the back of the head in the ukraine. we want them to condemn american police, who shoot unarmed black people in the back of the head also. >> what i don't get here, we look at the footage. he was on top of this young man patrick, so we knew he wasn't armed. under what rationale could he even justify shooting him in the back of the head. the michigan state police said once the investigation is completed, the evidence will be turned over to the county prosecutor, who will decide on charges in the case. what was your interpretation of
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the incident? are you concerned authorities will say this was a justifiable killing? we've heard of problems with police in grand rapids before. >> reverend al, as you know, as head of the national network, far too often they come up with reasons to justify, and justify the actions that leads to police killings of unarmed black people in america. there's a long list we can go through, but here this video is so revealing that there is no imminent fear of threat to cause him to use deadly force. he's supposed to deskate the situation, but he continue to say escalate it, and never once, reverend al, never once did a violent act towards him while the officer does several acts of violence against him during this
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video where he 'kneeing him, punching him. patrick never once hits the officer. >> peter, i want to thank you for joining us tonight along with your translator, to talk about the death of your son. first, let me express my deepest condolences to you and your family. when you saw the video, what was your immediate reaction? [ speaking foreign language ] >> translator: when i saw how the office shot my son in the head -- my body was trembling and no peace at all. >> describe for us, peter, what
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kind of man was he that you knew as your son and the nation now is learning about him? tell us about him? [ speaking foreign language ] >> translator: he was mice firstborn. he was 26 years old. patrick was a hard-working man. he was a loving brother. he loved his family, me, his mom. he took care of his brother and the entire family. he really loved to work. he was really a hard worker.
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when patrick receive his money, got paid, he would ask his brother, his sibling, what would you like me to bring for you? and every time when he got paid, he was buying the things with his sibling that they like. patrick was the beloved son of the family. he loved his family. his family loved him. until now hi sibling, me and his mom, we are not believing that patrick was killed. now, peter, you and your family, his brother and the family have to prepare to lay him to rest.
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do you want to say what your plans are to funeralize him? [ speaking foreign language ] >> we and the family and his brother, and we wanted to pay patrick and put him at rest. after that, i will ask god -- for patrick. >> we would like to thank you, reverend al, the family wishes to thank you for coming to the funeral for patrick, this
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brother from africa, who is just as deserving of dignity and respect as anybody else. >> i understand the funeral will be this week, attorney crump? >> yes, it will be on friday at 11:00 a.m., correct, peter? [ speaking foreign language ] >> it would be friday at 12:00 p.m. >> peter, do you all want to acknowledge that national action network, as they have done in so many occasions, has agreed to make sure he is buried and you all can have some relief that the costs of the funeral will be covered by donation?
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[ speaking foreign language ] >> yes, sir, we would like to acknowledge that and tell the reverend al sharpton, tang you to taking your a time to come and mourn with us. you want you would be performing the eulogy, so we wanted to thank you on behalf of the lyoya family, patrick and his mom, we want to thank you, reverend for taking care of the funeral. it was true, everything is correct. thank you so much from the bottom of our hearts. >> i'm honored to be asked to do that, that's what we do, and i've been honored to honor your request to come and eulogize patrick on friday. but even beyond that, po pursue
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justice and what is fair. thank you, peter. i notice how difficult it is for you to talk about your son, but thank you for coming on and talking to the nation, peter lyoy and mr. siku, and ben crump, thank you for being on with us. coming up next, the next steps for president biden as the kremlin warns the u.s. to stay out of its war with ukraine. our political panel joins me next.
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welcome back to "politics nation." let's bring in my political panel. joining me is danielle moody, and former florida congressman david jolley. thank you both for being here. ukrainian president zelenskyy has asked the biden administration to designation russia as a state sponsor of terrorism in a recent phone call between the two leaders. according to two sources familiar with the discussions, white house press secretary jen psaki and secretary of state blinken, have both left open the possibility in the past, and this move would trigger some of the most aggressive sanging that the u.s. could adopt. only four countries -- iran, north korea, syria and cuba -- are currently on the u.s. list
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of state sponsors of terror. they're reviewing it to see if it would be applicable in this case. congressman joltry, first to you, if the biden administration labeled russia as a state sponsor, how would that impact is his international standing and what message would it send? >> i think what we're seeing from the united states and the western free world is an incremental approach to continue to isolate russia. while the economic sanctioning have been strong, the condemnations have been strong, there are still other measures that can be taken to put them on the terrorism list. i think when the world has seen against ukrainian citizens, there is no response on the western world that had go too far. the question is, do we ever get
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drawn in militarily. i do think this incremental response we are having to go down as a result of the elevation of putin's actions ultimately democrats we're not absolutely in control of this, because vladimir putin could continue to do graver and graver things. a move to put them on the terrorist list is certainly something that has merit now. >> putin and his military have caused mass destruction appeared death in ukraine. more than 900 people were discovered to have been fatally shot in a region following russia's withdrawal, and most of those civilians. civilians were, quote, simply executed. ukraine police said this on friday. meanwhile, russia sent a formal diplomatic note to the united states, warning american and nato shipments are the most,
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quote, sensitive weapons systems to ukraine could bring, quote, unpredictable consequences, and will, quote, adding fuel to the conflict. danielle, what are president biden's best options? >> i mean, right now what we have seen is the best offenses without military actions are the economic sanctions. the question is, how long are we going to allow for people of ukraine to be butchered on national television? i mean, that is what we are seeing from bucha to mariupol, the stories and images coming out are absolutely atrocious. they are terrorism. they are war crimes, but what is our stomach for it? how many people will be enough for us to escalate the type of action that will be necessary to stop putin and frankly his
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butcher of syria that he has now put in charge of this war, right? we notice that the escalation against civilians is going to continue. i don't know if sanctions and these notes of being put on terrorist lists will scare putin enough to stop him dead in his tracks. what will it take, is what i think biden and the rest of the world are asking. now the "new york times" is reporting on text messages between senator mike lee, congressman chip roy, and mark meadows, that shed the light on which lawmakers were involved in effort to find ways to overturn the election. nbc news has not been able to independently review the text possessions, which are in the possession of the house committee investigating the
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capitol riot, but assuming the reporting is correct, what's your take on these newest revelations. >> it's remarkable. it demonstrates the posture of leading republicans on election today and coming out of it, they weren't satisfied with the results. we know that is an affront to the free and fair election. now we can start naming names. one of those is mike lee, utah, you want for reelection in utah in november. we know what a deep red republican state utah is, but he's facing an interesting race and an independent candidate evane mcmullen, some would say it divides the field, but some would say it gives conservative leaning option to stay with mike lee. he has a lot of explaining to do to the right-hand side of utah.
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>> danielle we've had heard a lot about tesla ceo elon musk, who has made a $43 billion offer for twitter to, quote, build an arena for free speech. musk has accused twitter of censors its users. are you concerned what musk is trying to do is open up the platform for more misinformation about topics such as covid-19 and the 2020 election? perhaps even allow former president trump to get his account back? >> i mean, i'm going to be honest. elon musk is a danger to twitter and to freedom of speech. he has been known to say some of the most trancephobic and homophobic things to his millions of followers. createn an arena of hate? that's what it sounds like, an opportunity to have no consequences, just do whatever
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n-word, yet he stood with impeccable dignity and discipline and broke down a barrier that now we take for granted when we see blacks playing baseball and other professional sports. it's always the pioneers who take the abuse while others reap the benefits. he did even more sthan that, he was a civil rights fighter, he sat in the front of the bus a decade before rosa parks and he changed the culture by his dignity in breaking down barriers in the leisure world. i remember as a young teenager i was brought to his house by one of my mentor's reverend jesse jackson, he my mother and i, it meant so much to her, and he ended up doing the eulogy in 1972. i continue to fight because fighters like jackie robinson
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changes this country and they set trends. as i head to grand rapids now to join this family, maybe some day it will say that it is normal that police are held accountable and it's normal that we have public safety in all communities and that crime and police abuse was something of yesteryear. let's keep breaking down barriers, until we can say that. we'll be right back. ack. ♪ ♪ ♪simply irresistible♪ applebee's irresist-a-bowls are back. now starting at $8.99. now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood.
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that does it for me, thanks for watching, i'll see you back here tomorrow at 5:00 p.m. eastern for another live hour of "politics nation". former hud secretary castro is guest hosting tonight here on msnbc, he pick-and-rolls he picksk pick-and-rolls up ou with "american voices" right now. >> thanks and hello everyone, i'm julian filling in, eight weeks into the war in ukraine and no end in sight. russian forces launch new attacks on kyiv and other parts earlier today signaling russia is not backing down after ukraine took out one of russia's war ships and another loss, the state-owned media is reporting one of its military generals has been killed in combat but the