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from msnbc world headquarters for new york. welcome everyone to world reports we. begin with rolled, reports president spending his day with the south korean counterpart, as they work to strengthen ties. and in the day with a state dinner. earlier they held a joint news conference after a bilateral meeting. both later shutting the importance of addressing north korean denuclearization, and some budget issues. president biden making clear the importance of this trip to asia as he prepares to had next to japan. >> there is a sense among the democracies in the pacific that there is a need to cooperate much more closely. not just militarily, but in terms of economically and politically. >> also bringing a federal judge blocked the biden administration from ending title 42. a controversial covid era trump border policy that allows
officials to turn back migrants due to the pandemic. earlier today, texas congressman joaquin castro reacted to the ruling here and msnbc. >> this really, and the ruling before at that half had an injunction or created injunction, undoing oil title 42 are actually breaking the immigration system even further. in other words, they're making things even worse. and it is going to be harder to fix because of it. >> more breaking news, the first shipment of baby formula as being loaded on to a u.s. military flight in germany. that flight due to depart moral. it will deliver 132 pallets of formula to indiana, as part of the biden ministration's operation five formula. the shipment address immediate needs one given more time for domestic manufacturers to ramp up production. and the january six committee landed testimony for one of its most high-profile witnesses yet, really giuliani. sources tell abc news the former trump attorney met with the panel friday for nine hours. he was subpoenaed to do so back
in january. we are going to go beyond the headlines now, with nbc's mike medley insole. sam rock on the texas border with mexico. and see fatter sin joins us from los angeles. fellas, welcome to all of. you mike we are going to start with you. president biden tackled the critical international questions on this first leg of his trip, but he also hamilton domestic business. so why don't you wrap it all up for us? >> yeah, alex, you know we are coming up now on three months since russia's invasion of ukraine. and really president biden has spent so much of the last three months focused on that crisis in eastern europe. but he's really using this first trip to asia to try to demonstrate that much as he has really rallied our western allies to try to punish russia for its aggression, so tunes he going to be working with some of our south pacific allies including south korea's brand-new president, to keep the pressure on china. and it was interesting to see the two presidents today, focused on the threat, especially from north korea. they are vowing to expand joint military exercises as u.s.
intelligence does show that north korea is potentially prepared to launch either a long range ballistic missile, or a new color test. even while president biden is on the ground, vowing to also work together to deal with issues like the supply chain challenges. and really alex, one of the hallmarks of this trip so far, is the degree to which president biden's toggling towards these foreign policy challenges, but also this domestic challenges at home. he signed into legislation, into law today, able to deal with that baby formula crisis. while the president biden on this trip is his commerce accra terry gina raimondo. our colleague had a chance to sit down with earlier and talk about the degree to which americans frustrations with the save the economy are really apparent to the administration, and how they are dealing with that. take a listen to part of their conversation. >> yes no one is more resilient than the people of america. and the american people have been through a lot the last couple of years, and they are resilient. having said that, it is hard. and as you just said, baby
formula, supply chain disruption, gas prices erupt. so we are asking for patients at a time when that's hard to ask for. but we have to continue to focus on what is working. >> and alex, a new nbc news poll showing that 75% of the american people think the country is on the wrong track. only a third of voters approving of president biden's handling of the economy. that is why, during his time here, this first stop off of air force one until was to visit a samsung plant which will be a model for a plant that is going to be opening up in the state of texas, employing potentially as many as 3000 american workers. and later today, it is sunday here in seoul. the president will also be visiting hyundai, a major automaker who is announced plans to build its first electric vehicle plant in the state of georgia. so the president, trying to showcase the way our economic alliances overseas are also paying dividends for americans back home. >> yeah, yes i will grow it is sunday, but is also to a 6 am
sunday. so thank you for staying on the east coast time and joining us mike family. meantime, as the white house calls for patients with the baby formula shortage, one-sided relief for parents. give me a look right now at what happened just a short time ago in germany. 132 pallets of baby formula ready freeloading there on a military plane. and ultimately bound for indianapolis this weekend. let's go to nbc's steve patterson, following the story from los angeles for us. so, steve, parents want to know, when can they expect that formula to be on the store shelves? >> yeah, alex, the eyes of the entire nation are fixated on what is happening over there in germany. fixated on that one flight, so important to so many families. so here's where we are. a bit of a pivot over the last 24 hours. the administration wanted to originally use commercial flights from switzerland to indiana. those guys were not available until they pivoted to using the u.s. military from germany to indiana. and the images that you just showed, so now they are coming into waves. the first wave is expected to bring to branson formula, 132
pilots worth. followed by a second with with 114 pilots worth of a third brand of formula for a grand total of one point 5,000,008 ounce bottles of formula for the u.s. and mothers that are so desperate to have this. and it may take a few days before we see any impact on store shelves. but the most important part of this, is that these bottles that are coming, this formula, it's hypoallergenic. because as we know, lowering income families and babies with pre-existing medical conditions, including allergies or things like allergies to cows milk, are so reliant on this formula. they need it now, they need it first. one of them we spoke to a family in portland, a mother named rebecca who is disappointed by the amount of time all of this is going to take. i want you to listen to what she had to say. take a listen. >> that doesn't cut it for me. when you are looking in your babies eyes, and wondering how you are going to be able to feed her. we need to be moving mountains
to make this happen, because there's nothing more important than the lives and health of little babies. >> and she is talking about the length of time all of this is going to take. because meanwhile, the fda put out approval for the plant at the center of all of this, the abbott plant in michigan, now scheduled to reopen sometime next week. that would have an impact on store shelves in a matter of a few months. these ballots that are coming from overseas will impact things in the next couple of days, according to officials. but there won't be any return to normalcy within at least the next six to. weeks or so. alex. >> that is so hard for parents to hear, especially when you have a crying baby in the background that is hungry. i mean, wow. okay steve patterson, thank you so much there in los angeles. more breaking news, this time at the southern border were title 42 remains in place after a federal judge's ruling. now the biden administration is tapping the justice department to appeal that decision. let's go once again to nbc sam
brock, on the border there in del rio texas for us. give me a sense of how folks there are reacting to all of this, sam. >> yeah, alex, good afternoon. there's no question for local law enforcement, this is a relief. they tell me they just don't have the resources to handle another surge on top of the stream of migrants that they're already seeing here. alex, we are at the point right now that, according to border control, there's about 7400 crossings per day to give you some perspective on that if you listen to jay johnson years ago, during the obama administration, isa safe we've got 2000 a day that would be problematic. this is seven times. that dhs right now as model this out, alex, scenarios in which you are looking at 10, 000, 12, 000, 14, 000, potentially up to 18,000 crossing today. so we are smashing records left and. right now on the flip side of, that i did speak with some folks coming from cuba, and ecuador, venezuela, they are begging, pleading with the biden administration to be lenient. here's one woman that we spoke with, she left her two kids behind in columbia.
part of a group of 200 people standing and waiting now at the border. here's what she had to say. >> i'm worried, very worried. yes if they go back in this title 42, get another three or four months, maybe we could be a little bit more prepared on that. >> you don't think you are right? now >> to be honest with you, you know. i mean we are not prepared. >> so, alex, this injunction that was implemented by one
judge in western louisiana could be in place for a number of weeks. perhaps months, a really depends how long the process takes to play out. you know that the biden administration is appealing that decision. here's what is interesting however. there are exceptions to title 42, unaccompanied minors, families, people traveling here from countries will not take them back, and increasingly knox that figure is expanding. and for the first time in history, in april, more people under title 42 actually stayed in the united states then were expelled. that is because of these exemptions. so people are still coming in the united states, despite title 42 being in effect. >> i've got to tell you though, when you listen historians and one by one, i'm now wondering what is going to happen to that mother who has made it all this way from columbia trying to do their best she can for her family. it is utterly heartbreaking. thank you for bringing the stories to us, sam, brock appreciate that. let's go now to the war in ukraine. new this hour, a call for europe to unite on ukraine's future. it comes to president zelenskyy judging a meeting in kyiv with
the prime minister portugal. both said the worst in the eu could do would be to divide itself. nbc news can confirms that today russia declared a travel ban on 963 americans. among those no longer welcome in moscow, president biden, his son hunter biden, cia director william burns, and a number of democratic and republican lawmakers. to go to nbc's jay gray visit kyiv with, us jays draining us now. so jay, things appear to be calm and keep at least, but you know that intense fighting is still underway. 87 days and counting now. what are you hearing about the diplomatic efforts, if there are any underway to end this war? >> it is a real struggle, alex. let's start in kharkiv today they've seen more missile strikes including any marketplace in the center of that city, across the region. they have against the multiple strikes. the director of the military, the regional military there says at least one person is dead, at least 20 injured after those attacks. and you can just see the mass
explosion there. and that is something that is playing out across that region. biden continues to be intense in the donbas region, as well. president vladimir zelenskyy describing that region right now, as hell. and he says that talks, will they have been good, they will be wet finely answers conflict. >> and now it is a hybrid. that is why the war is so difficult. and the victory will be very difficult. it will be plenty, it will be in battle, the end will definitely be in diplomacy. >> yeah, talking about the war like a car, saying it is a hybrid. so there are two sides to what's going on here. and right now beside that is prevailing is that bloody battle to the east. >> okay, jay gray, thank you so much for that update. we appreciate it. well, it sure seems alarming,
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country could be one step closer to a recession. the s&p 500 dipped in a bare minimum architectural for the first time since 2020. it bounced back slightly by the end of the day. tom costello has more on the chaotic day in wall street. >> facing the growing possibility of a recession, wall street spent another day in turmoil. >> the body blow this market keeps taking and when it might end. >> the s&p climbed back after heavy selling but it was still down 8% year to date. it was down 600 point and then rallied but lost ground for eight consecutive weeks. the first time this has happened since 1923. among the inflation sets the
retailers getting hit hard. dara general, targeted, home depot, and ross. >> joining me now to break down the numbers further is heather long, economic columnist for the washington post. welcome, heather. those slumping retailers, those are some dramatic numbers. what does that mean? >> there has been a huge amount of focus on this a big shift happening in the economy, the shift from one we were all at home for the past two years watching netflix, buying things online, remodeling their homes, and suddenly this is not what we are doing anymore. people want to be out traveling, want to be outside, going to restaurants, seeing friends. that transition, that big shift, happened faster than retailers were expecting. you can hear the target ceo talking about that they had all of these home appliances, patio furniture ready to go for the spring and summer. people are not buying that
anymore. that is one of the questions on wall street's mind is, we knew this shift was coming, it is happening really fast, but our consumers -- would are they going to spend on going forward with this high inflation? are they going to close their wallet entirely? this is a big question mark. >> do you think travel bounces up? prices are crazy for gas, fares, hotels. if people are not staying home they will go somewhere. >> exactly. for right now, we are seeing it with a strong demand to take trips including flights, even though the prices are up by ten or 20% from where they were a year ago. as you mentioned again, gas prices are at all-time highs. you can see people working their budgets. i think this is why there was so much focus on target and why the target ceo was saying. it is a good gauge of the
middle class american. how much are they still spending? i think people were alarmed to hear that the target the ceo was talking about consumers trading down to just buying the basics of a food, clothes, cleaning supplies. they do not buy extras. people were trading down to generic store brands to save money, so they can hopefully take a vacation this summer. are they going to take the vacation to disney or elsewhere? that is what the market is debating. are we in a situation where the middle class is saying, i do not have the money to do what i want to do? >> it is expensive even if you want to go travel. let's talk about the u.s. job report. that has been improving in hiring and wages since the worst of the pandemic. why is that not grabbing more headlines, and at least providing economic optimism? >> that is what is fueling when
little activism we have left. this continues to be strong. not only are we not seeing layoffs, this would be a downturn on the verge of a recession. you would see companies laying people off. you are not seeing layoffs. in fact, we are seeing strong hiring for the last 6 to 12 months. this was being added. there is a bit of a slowdown around the summer months. we are going around 200,000 jobs. this is not look like a recession. this was almost every industry that was being added job. it was going out of construction recently. you can understand with the cooling off of the housing market. again. you could see this hiring. it is hard to believe that we are in a recession. >> can a strong job market, hiring, improving with wages as well, can this keep the united states out of the recession? can one thing like that, one
component of the economy do that? >> it can in the sense that all those people getting jobs are now getting a bigger paycheck than what they had before. that money in people's pockets is helping to offset the higher costs. it is helping to pay for summer vacations that people want to go on. we also have, particularly for the middle class, and have done very well with the values going up. even though the stock market has pulled back a little bit, it is a way up from where it was at the start of the pandemic. this is all extra money in people's pockets. the question is will they keep spending it. >> regarding the stock market, any conventional wisdom and when it will significantly and consistently rebound? it was better than where it was at the start of the component, at the beginning of the pandemic, but it was brutal this week. >> it is. it is hard to watch. even if you know that i am a long term investor and will do
the right thing and close my eyes. it is still hard to see the last seven weeks of the downturn that we have seen. it will be really interesting if this week we will get into the bear market before the s&p 500 closes down 20%. we are flirting with it for days. it keeps bouncing up at the end of the day and not going a true bear market. if we do hit the bear market, normally it does take quite a few months to climb out of that. however, as we all remember, that is very dramatic and a rapid turn around the last time we were in a bear market in 2020. it was such a rapid turnaround. i do not know if people are really conditioned to prepare for a pretty long, drawn out struggle that could be ahead. no one knows for sure. >> all right, heather long, it is always good to have you on when that is time like this. even with a hint of a smile, as you deliver the economic news.
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the second jewel of the triple crown races will be held at baltimore's pick a race courses. well kentucky derby race winner rich strike will not appear, runner-up epicenter will be back for another chance to win. that race airs on nbc. as the midterm primaries heat up, new insight today into wet qualities make voters more or less inclined to vote for candidate. according to nbc news polling, the most popular positions say 2020 can tender and have is, tackling inflation that high gas prices. well the least popular are believed to be trump won in 2020, and want to the supreme court to overturn roe v. wade. join me now, simone sanders, former senior adviser and chief spokes person to vice president harris and also now host to the show simone here on msnbc, and about two and a half hours. thanks for coming in early, and joining me before you are getting ready for your own show. what do you make of that new polling, simone? >> i think the polling actually
alex, confirms what our number of authorities say. and what we've known from talking to people across the country over the last few months and weeks. inflation, the economy, the experience of people are having in their everyday lives is driving what they are thinking about as they are preparing to go into voting booths in these primaries. but also, before november. and so yes, getting gas prices down is very important. people putting gas in their cars. we are coming up on memorial day, folks will be taking road trips, if you will. and people don't want it to be expensive. going to the grocery store, i always make the point about how you know appeals very biscuits i like to get alex, bayern nonexistence at my local grocery store, and when i can't find them they are more expensive. so, correction the experience that the consumer has or talking about your plan to correct that experience, is going to be key for folks coming up this midterm election. out also just note that the things that are least popular, people are tired of hearing about the 2020 election. because their experience every day is that joe biden is the president of united states of
america, vice president harris is the vice president of the united states of america. and donald trump, he didn't win. so here in candidates talk about the 2020 election was stolen, for most americans, not all okay because there are people who believe it's a big lack. but hearing people talk, hear candidates talk about that, for most americans it flies in the face of what they know to be true. >> absolutely, specific numbers to that point, a candidate that says donald trump won the election for president, 54% less likely to get the voter somebody else. add to that candidate endorsed by donald trump, 49% less likely to. only 29% garnish of supportive than there by somebody's vote as well. how interesting is that to you. i mean when you think about that group of republicans that you referenced, who are still let's call them trumpian die hards. how much we are they gonna have throughout the republican party? >> look, alex, i think it depends on where we are talking about in the republican party. what's state, what specifically
district, what's the makeup of that district? the thing that excites me, if you will, about the midterm elections is that they are very. if people say all politics is local, well midterm elections are super local politics. you're talking about district by district community by community. and some places, across the country, in very specific districts the message that the former president of united states of america continues to push, about the election being stolen, which is the latter. about the election being rigged, in 2020 which is a lie. it is still very much, it permeates you will gravitate to that message. so candidates going into a general election no, they will have to take into account, and i'm talking about republican candidates to, alex, they'll have to take into account what is the makeup of their district. their values, what's to these candidates believe, one of a willing to say, and not, say are they willing to lie to their voters? because a primary is very different from a general election. in a general election, you have folks, you have a mixture of
people who are big d democrats, people who are big are republicans, but also people are independents or folks that don't say, that say i don't do any ideology but i just care about these issues. >> do you think there's any part of this though, symone, that is a harbinger for donald trump in the uphill battle that he might face? i mean, it is kind of a foundation for him to declare a 2024 presidential run, does he need to be looking at it and seeing, they're a lot of people who are like, we are done with trump. >> yeah, i think so. i think you're absolutely right. i think we often have, we've tendency to kind of anything that the former president does or says, folks latch on to it. you know trump is interesting here, he said this literally, he did that. but you have to look at the lay of the land holistically. that holistically, if on this latest nbc poll. we know the number of the things that the former president is talking about are actually not popular. and i would go suffice to say that they are extremely.
and you know,, alex this is what elections are. for this is why people run campaigns. the republican party is going to have to make a decision, and they've got a couple months to make that decision. but who is that they would like to put up for 2024? and do they want to put up somebody who represents the extremes of their party, there represents very unpopular positions across the board for americans in this country, or do they want to put up somebody that could be a viable candidate against, at this point present biden because he says that he's running for reelection. >> yeah, right you. our another issue that people are passionate about, you had a discussion and your interview this week with education secretary miguel cordova. and here's what you asked about when you talked about student loans. we are going to take a listen to part of it. >> president, on the campaign trail i was there. he did make a commitment to forgive $10,000 worth of student loan debt. that has yet to happen. so where are we in that process? >> you have the president couple weeks ago mention that something could be coming soon,
that he is having conversations with the department of education and the doj on this. so, we are a year in. 18 billion dollars in debt forgiveness already, we are not done. >> what's the holdup, mister secretary? >> well is a pretty complex issue, right. and we have a lot of other things that the president has been fighting for. >> spot on the, simone. you asked the questionable was across this country are yelling at our tv screens. but i did not hear the secretary give you a real answer to that. i mean, did you get a sense of why it has not happened yet, and should this be a priority before? november >> so folks know more in this interview on the show today, at 4 pm. but the secretary goes on to talk about that conversations are starting to happen with the white house with the department of justice. and that he doesn't have a definitive answer or timeline today. when i spoke to me that interview. but something is coming soon. i went on to ask secretary though, will people have to start paying eventually? because we also talked about the student loan pause, the reappointment pause. and students in this country
have been paused again and they are set to restart on the august 31st of this year. and secretary cardona was very clear, he said look, people are gonna have to start paying, but they are going to pay what they can. so, we got some answers, alex, not all but it is it was a very illuminating interview. and i encourage people just to watch because secretary cardona made the case that, while the $10,000 that brought this student loan cancellation has not yet been settled, that the administration has continued to forgive loans and that they haven't given up to 18 billion dollars for well over 750,000 growers in this country. and that is a number that i didn't know, so i learned a little something in that interview myself. >> well that is good. hey listen, two weeks in a row, i'm really enjoying this. if you want to make it three weeks in a row and come back next weekend, open invite my. friend >> alex, i think we should make this thing. so i should call my people call your. people >> it is the, thing i love. that thank you so much simone, and as we said you can hear more about her interview with secretary cardona. it is airing 4 pm eastern on
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it was justifiably outraged to criminal. act that played out in full public view, thanks to sell phone video from a teenage girl who was among several witnesses to the murder. but a new book that examines life and death of floyd, also illuminates stark aspects of life for black american men, in particular. that remain unchanged. the book is titled, his name is george floyd, one man's life in the struggle for racial justice. and it documents how america field floyd in his life, in his death, and in his after life. the authors robert a third set out and join me right now, bill to reporters at the washington post. it is good to have you both. robert i will reach up to you first, let's first talk about george floyd's life. because you traced his ancestry to slavery and explained how he was born into poverty. and then you write about different symptoms, and systems that work to keep him there. but many doses are still in
place, so tell us about that. >> well, the battle for george floyd started long before george open i ever put anyone's neck. and that is where we explored the book. in fact, that is how it all starts. before he was even born when land from his great grandfather was robbed from him through fraudulent tax schemes that before he could make one intergenerational transfer of wealth, which is how they build wealth in this country. imagine what life would have been like that wealth could have been passed on. imagine a world in which george floyd was in a school system that was not crumbling it over resourced, so much so that they look at him as, with his size and said you should play sports. forget about the books. and imagine world in which we treated person of his size, who over the course of his life, making some mistakes and having some struggles, i serious issues feeling a sense of
purpose and understanding up that. with the research that we do, into the black body, and the understanding the black body is very sparse. and so what's the big posits's, thinking about in america in which we see people for its fullness, in their fullness, and that is a struggle that happened before george floyd that, happened during george floyd's life, and still continues today. >> fluid, when george floyd encounter derek chauvin, his incarceration rather on the record that was not a factor. but you found that floyd's response from the very moment that he tapped on that car window, it was related to those experiences, almost like a steepest trauma surfaced in what turned out to be the last minutes of his life. talk about that. once we watched the video of floyd's final moments, we were able to see a expression on his face that showed abject fear. it will ruin something. it was rooted in an experience
over several decades of police harassment. we documented that he was stopped by police over trying times over the course of his life. sometimes it was for walking us in his own neighborhood. please stop him because it did not look like he was going anywhere in particular. six of the peep police to stop him or charged of crimes of their own. there were a lot of police corruption in his life. he spent time behind bars for things he did an admitted two or four things that he maintained his innocence and claimed he did not do. he was a man who looked like he did and felt like he would never get justice from the criminal justice system. he spent a lot of time behind bars after agreeing to plea deals and guilty pleas that he had to take because he had no other choice. he spent a lot of times in small cells. he had claustrophobia. that was something we heard on the video of him dying trying to tell the police. i am castro phobic. that's why he was terrified in those final moments. >> you emphasized, robert, that he was a large man in stature.
he was also gentle in nature. why is that critical? what did you hear from the people that knew him well? >> one of the things about george floyd that we learned through the course of talking to him and seeing the letters he wrote to himself and to others was that he was an introspective man. he thought about his size and how much it hurt him that people saw him as a threat. whenever he would walk into a room he would greet people by the hand, shake them by the hand, he complimented people whenever he saw them doing something different. -- that is the type of person he was. he only spoke his love. the first time i met one of his girlfriends she said, he said i love me on the first day. another girlfriend said the same thing. everybody, almost everyone we met said that george floyd told him that he loved them.
he had a persistence in the world. he had a believed that despite his challenges he never thought that the american promised could not be fulfilled for him. that is one thing that i hope people take away when they read the book. we saw the horrifying images on the screen again, but embedded in that tale is the story of persistence, hope, and the beauty of the black experience. it manages to seep through despite all of these challenges. >> it is heartbreaking to think that he told people so freely how he they were loved by him, and he may not have heard that or believed that enough from those who said that to him. that breaks my heart to hear. i know you wrote about his family and the interactions, comparing those that he had with president trump and biden, and the hope that they express when they felt like there was momentum for change. what about now? are they frustrated. the police phone registration has yet to be passed. >> if you rewind back to the
summer of 2020, there was hope that something was going to happen. there was going to be there is a groundswell of momentum that would lead to groundbreaking civil rights legislation on police reform and other issues. the family got behind it. they call phone calls from president trump, even though they felt like he was not listening. the fact that he called show that it was something that was bipartisan in nature and larger than candidate biden. he won the presidency. he told congress that he wanted to sign this bill. this was in george floyd's on the first anniversary of his death. two years later we saw that the bill has not been passed. the momentum has gone away. instead, we see backlash against critical race theory. people are winning campaigns by campaigning against the momentum that we saw two years ago. there is frustration among floyd's loved ones that this backlash is happening rather than the groundswell and the momentum that would have led to civil rights movements. >> thank you so much for your time.
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great lakes to the west is at risk of a blackout this summer. joining me now is ivan penn, he covers alternative energy for the new york times. ivan, we do not want to hear this. we want the acs to be up and running. do you think we are looking at a summer blackout based on your reporting? what is the area of greatest concern when temperatures take a sudden turn like this? >> well, alex, thank you for having me. >> glad to have you. >> we have a series of challenges of significant consequence right now. they weather projections of above normal temperatures for the entire country this summer is obviously the primary driver in concern. this is being coupled with drought in the west. the issue of climate change that have made wildfires worse
and hurricanes, and more devastating -- hurricane ida last summer left much of new orleans in the dark after the impact on the grid there. it is the confluence of events that are being made worse by these projections of higher temperatures. what happens during the summer, we start running air conditioning. air condition is the biggest energy hog in a typical home. >> for sure. just this week, texas got blasted by heat wave that we are reporting. six power plants went down in the state last week. officials were saying that they needed them to turn the ac up to 78. why so many power plants failures? why are they not ready to address the ac needs and every other need, electrically speaking? >> typically during the spring, this is when we see the utility companies do maintenance projects. usually, our usage is lower in
spring. obviously, we come out of winter and we are before the hot temperatures of the summer. the utility comparator companies usually take advantage of that and do maintenance. we are also seeing issues of a power plants having challenges operating on a normal basis. this is coming at a time when we are in need of of grades to virtually the entire system. we are in the energy transition to try to electrify everything. we are trying to wean ourselves from fossil fuels. at the same time, we are dealing with the need to upgrade to deal with the natural disasters and the worsening conditions brought on by climate change. the utility companies are having to grapple with all of these elements at the same time. it is worse for consumers. not only blackout, but these things are driving up costs.
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