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>> hi everyone i'm yasmin vossoughian if you're just joining us welcome it's good to see you, if you're still us thanks for sticking around. we are two days away from a test for democracy, a test that cannot fail. georgia voters heading to the polls for tuesday's primary which puts donald trump efforts to handpick the people who could potentially help him rig the next presidential election squarely on the ballot. he's trying to unseat the republican governor of the state who refused his pressure, to refuse the certification of joe biden's win in the state. and he's trying to defeat the republican secretary of state who would not bow to -- efforts like this one from then president the united states caught on tape. >> all i want to do is this.
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i just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. >> in a moment where to break down with ellison barber, and georgia political reporter greg bluestein as well. this hour follows later on international efforts to fight the baby formula shortage here at home, with the first flight from overseas arriving today and a week after the buffalo shooting, i'm a talk to a pastor about how the community is in fact healing. how do they move forward. and then some perspective on how american teenager can get radicalized by hate, from someone who has seen the same kind of extremism up close, covering foreign wars, that's coming up as well. we begin though, with the critical race in georgia were less than 48 hours until voters head to the poll in the states critical primary election, so far there's already been a record turnout. more than 850,000 georgians
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have cast ballots, the majority in person, all of this happening after more restrictive voting laws, imposed by state lead gop makers. daytona trump looming large in the state as well, endorsing candidates in both the governor tory and senate races to. and descends ellison barber, is on the ground wasn't atlanta, alison it's great to see you, i want to start kind of with the breakdown first ellison, the governor's race -- and of course that ever so important as we've been talking about litmus test for the former president and his endorsements. >> yeah, the action in the primaries here in georgia has really been on the republican starred in large part because you have in the gubernatorial race former senator david perdue, is backed by former president donald trump, challenging the incumbent governor brian kemp. then on the senate side, a pretty crowded republican primary field but at this point you have two candidates both in the gubernatorial republican primary and in the senate race
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that have really pulled fuller had. look at some of these poll, some of the latest numbers that we have, the gubernatorial race use look at these numbers -- pulled away from trump endorsed candidates, trump endorsement here appears to have not really been all that helpful elise as it relates to senator purdue. brian kemp said 60%, david perdue trailing behind at 28%, on the senate side herschel walker who's a football legend in this state, he's at 66%, his closest competitor gary black is at a percent. herschel walker has donald trump's endorsement, but really there hasn't been much of a fight their war that would kind of be the outlier that pushed him ahead. he's very well-known in the state, again a huge football legend if you grew up here you probably already knew his name. and so, that name recognition as help them a lot, you have a situation in the gubernatorial primary where donald trump was very vocally against governor brian kemp, and very active in
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trying to throw its support behind senator purdue. it didn't seem it's given him enough of a nudge to help, it's really interesting because when donald trump started attacking camp, to begin with he was talking to republicans in a county that's deeply red. i was hearing republicans say they weren't so sure about camp, we went back to that county last, and everybody was saying that we're gonna vote for camp, in the republican primary. >> wow, all because it seems, that's interesting to talk about. but i also want to touch of ellison, on the democratic side of things as well, where are we with that? >> yeah, you look at the senate democrat -- raphael warnock. he doesn't have a viable chance, the only person challenging that is never pulled above a 6%. so, he's been quiet on the campaign, robbyn's campaign have said that his focus on governing right now not on campaigning. stacy averages who's running for governor, she does not have a primary challenge at all.
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so, things have felt a little quiet on the democratic side, there was a fundraising gala in when it county, a very important swing county in this state. and all the candidates on the democratic sad, they gave speeches that we got a sense a little bit, of where the campaign might be headed once we get through the primaries. listen to what stacey abrams had to say last night. >> we've heard the current occupant of the office has been doing a lot of regifting. i was trying to remember that episode of seinfeld, i pulled it up and it is indeed, i felt like déjà vu. and it turns out that brian kemp is a regifter. you see, joe biden signed legislation that our friends lucy mcbath and carolyn bordeaux, and john ossoff, and raphael warnock put into law money that came to this state and brian kemp is traveling around him handing out with his name on the card. >> and that stood up to me a
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lot last night because stacey abrams mentioned an attack camp specifically at least three times, listening to it you could've easily forgotten that he is not yet the official nominee but that gives you a sense of where things are when you look at the polls. how little of an effect trump's endorsement has had four former senator david porto. >> it gives you a sense of -- democratic side that they're coming at the fact that they're up against kamala camped. alison barber as always, great to talk to my friend, thank you. i want to bring greg bluestein, -- constitution, greg is always thank you for joining us out of the georgia primary there. is a few things that we're talking through here of course ellison was walking us through those things, i want to time john governor camp, governor toil race as well, your most recent article in the ag say -- a cab poised for a big win tuesday, but trump shadow looms large. interesting i kind of want to hear your take, and if we heard a little bit but why it is purdue hasn't really --
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that he would re-gavel the trump endorsement. >> yeah, it's been a fascinating because when purdue got into this race in december, governor folks both treated this as a toss-up, i mean this was looking like it was headed towards a brutal drone one-off. now david perdue's campaign seems on the verge of a collapse, he's trailing the polls, he's not even up on tv with the ads right now. he scaled back his campaign events and even donald trump is downplaying david produce chances. right now brian kemp could show -- on trump's bad side. about how to succeed but his avenue of doing this was never by saying and he never publicly about donald trump instead he's sticking to a very conservative platform that energizes his base and he could, leaning back on that record because he's the state's first lifelong photo republican governor. other than refusing to overturn the election, refusing donald trump's demands --
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of another legislation major item that he's been able to sign into law, it was almost entirely geared towards energizing conservative orders. >> what about secretary of state brad raffensperger, i know he's on the ballot as well. and we know the rule that he played obviously the 2020 election, and refusing to subvert the 2020 election especially with that famous phone call we just played a little bit earlier. how do you feel it's gonna play for him here? >> you know, this might be one of the biggest electoral surprises in georgia, this campaign cycle a year ago there were many georgia -- myself included who didn't think raffensperger would even qualify to run. now he's headed towards a likely runoff with donald trump backed opponent, that could go either way. and this is someone like brian kemp has been donald trump's bad side, since november 2020 essentially, this is someone who also tried to navigate that balance. he's criticize donald trump but he also focused on -- stacey abrams, stacey abrams as you mentioned a minute ago, is
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in the form of democratic nominee and republicans have been treating her as such since even before she got the rights. >> so, my question here is, you talk about a year difference, if we've been having this conversation last year we wanted to link it raffensperger would be on the ballot, here we are and he can be heading towards this runoff as you say, i'm wondering do conservative voters there have a short memory, are they last trumpy then you're finding, less trump dedicated, less trump based educated, what is it really? >> yeah, -- found that a majority of georgia republican voters say that donald trump endorsement doesn't matter to them. it only matters very little to them in something instead it matters, it affects them the other way. they're more likely to vote against this. only about a third of georgia republican primary voters say that his endorsement matters a lot, i think it's part of it,
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and the other part of it is that jody hice hasn't been on the campaign trial, he hasn't raked in money no, tv ads he might be hoarding that money for a runoff will see. we haven't heard or seen as much of him as we've seen brad raffensperger here in georgia. >> herschel walker, -- surrounding him but you heard it from ellison obviously, you know quite well a celebrity within the date is that what's going over the finish line? there >> you might be the only candidate in georgia who doesn't need a run in the tv ads. that's a universal's name recognition is. i'm born and raised here and i was not alive, i had been born in one herschel walker's playing days at university -- i grew up hearing stories about. and that just tells you the scope of his presidents and his name recognition, that gives you a long way and a crowded republican primary. let me tell you this two, democrats are not taking this for granted, they're not
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underestimating herschel walker, despite the baggage you just mentioned he's going to be a very formidable opponent in democrat especially -- warnock's campaign they register that. they acknowledged. that greg blue stain, thank you. breaking just a short time ago, john fetterman pence oden -- has been released from the hospital. after suffering a stroke last week in a statement fetterman thanked his medical team, said he will continue to rest per doctors orders, so he can be in full health when he flips his seat. still ahead, the first of barry formula arrives here in the united states, what parents can expect once it hits the store shelves, plus dodging death, frontlines with ukraine soldiers a firsthand report, we'll be right back. l be right back. and doug. ♪ harp plays ♪ only two things are forever: love and liberty mutual customizing your car insurance,
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inside a burnt out homes on the northwest side of the country. their military accused of the atrocity coming amid a months long campaign that has used arson and arbitrary executions to crush the government resistance. hundreds of thousands of civilians have been forced to flee their homes since the military seized power, throwing the country into conflict, let's talk ukraine now. ukrainian leadership is drawing lines in the sand in their attempts to end russia's invasion. president zelenskyy saying that the only way to end war in ukraine is through diplomacy. one of his top advisors is throwing cold water on of the cease-fire for any political deal, that would cede ukrainian territory to russia. amidst all of this, intense fighting in eastern parts of the country, which is where my next guest, the washington post -- is currently reporting from. his latest piece, an amazing account of traveling with a group of snipers on the front lines. he writes this. a visit to mary uncle brought a
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rare close-up look at the current nature of the war in eastern ukraine, field now by crushing artillery battles aided by drones and snipers. it showed why russian forces have failed to break ukraine's defensive lines. going on to quote one of the sniper saying, it is very important, if we lose this location, the russians can advance in donetsk. he's joining us now. thank you so much for being back on the ground for us and bringing your incredible reporting, i know you are off for a moment. we spoke to you when you were, we are thankful that you are bringing us the truth now from ukraine, once again and you are safe. tell us first about the intense fighting that you continue to see in the eastern parts of ukraine. some of those experiences, of course alongside ukrainian fighters. >> we visited this town called mary aga, which is a long one of the front lines of eastern
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ukraine, and what is happening there is a war of attrition, it is revolving around artillery duels beef to between both sides. the ukrainians are using also drones as well as, snipers to keep the russians from breaking through their defensive lines. so far this worked, the front line there has been almost the stalemate now for more than a month. we were told that the russians had targeted one bridge, in the town, and actually managed to cross the river. suddenly, they have been stopped there. a fortified positions with artillery, and so it has been back and forth now, as one of the fighters told me, it's like [inaudible] it is a place where you rarely see the enemy, but -- an entire town when we are there, there was shelling going on.
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a barrage of artillery coming in, and the snipers, but they had to do is run through, make a 300 yard dash to reach a forward position, and their whole mission was to set up there and see if they could actually spot russians, and prevent them from targeting ukrainians. >> here's what i wonder. as you talk about this gabe of badminton, you wrote it in one of your beautifully written pieces in the washington post. i'm wondering if the russians are still getting as much resupply as the ukrainians are getting. i know it is difficult to meet that military need of the cranial, are the russians able to resupply to the level which ukrainians are? they are not necessarily so much involved in a shelling fight. >> it depends on the location.
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in this particular location, the space where the russians are, is actually russian separatist-controlled territory. they've controlled that since 2014. and so yes, in that case, in that area, the russians can possibly resupply themselves. but when they are in other areas, it may be more difficult. like kharkiv, they have been driven out of kharkiv and push towards the border. but they are trying to do now, the whole focus of the russian effort now is to try and come southward from kharkiv and a town called izium, towards the donbas area. it's can comprised of two provinces, luhansk, and donetsk. they are trying to get into the donetsk region. supply issues are going to be, their morale issues are also an issue that the ukrainians have been quite good about using, the artillery to fend off the russians. and also using drones and jets
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to target the donbas. at the same time, the russians are pushing forward, this is their main focus, to concentrate on. they really want to take over the donbas. but we are seeing now is the town of donetsk, in the luhansk region, the russians have surrounded from three sides, it is a dire situation. a bridge was blown up yesterday, preventing civilians from escaping this city. also, preventing the ukrainians from trying to protect in. there is a deep concern here that if the russians take this town, they can push in towards cities like sloviansk, and other cities. >> before you go, i want you to quickly talk about this story that you told in the washington post about the 13 year old girl who lost her life during this war. she was trying -- traveling, trying to get over
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the city, with her 12 month old sibling. i want to read for folks a little bit wary road here. the coffin was covered in a pale pink fabric with a white trail trim, chosen for a young girl. the woman who sold it had questions. who is this casket for. how did she get it here? the man who is responsible for taking the girl to her final resting place did not have answers. he was a stranger who had volunteered for the task. how emblematic is this incredibly tragic story to what is going on in the country that right now? >> very much so. this is one of the sad stories i've covered in any war zone, here you had a 13 year old girl who escaped her hometown to go to another part of ukraine, only to find herself trapped behind russian lines. she and her mother and her six month old sister were all trying to get back home, which is actually back into the donbas, where i am right now.
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they were waiting at a checkpoint, and from what investigators told us, the russians fired on them, and 13-year-old girl was killed. in fact, her body was so badly destroyed, that even her coffin, only lumps of it could be put in her coffin. such a stat story. they then had to travel hundreds of miles for the burial, because her mother and sister were still behind in russian control areas, they are in the hospital now trying to deal with the injuries. she had to be transported 125 miles back to her hometown, where they had an extremely somber breyer burial. her grandfather broke down in tears. what was also striking, was that she was brought there by volunteers, who did not another. there are many people around ukraine like this, volunteers who are trying to evacuate people, trying to take the corpses of people back to their burial homes, that to their
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final resting places. it is very emblematic of what is happening here in ukraine. >> on a local sense, i can't imagine what that mother was dealing with. are now deceased daughter, as she sat in the hospital with her six month old child. as always, incredible reporting, we thank you for it. i want to bring in now msnbc news analyst, peter, as always, thank you for joining us on this. they just painted a grim picture of what is happening inside ukraine, and you think about the dedication of the united states in supporting ukraine's efforts throughout this war. do you think u.s. is politically ready for the long fight, the long haul, in the aid to continue to give to ukraine to defeat the russians? to not cede any land, as they had promised that they would not do. to not cede any territory whatsoever. they feel as if any way to the
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-- through diplomacy. >> i think that the u.s. is probably ready for that, there may be an ingrown divide between some of the countries in europe. where the politics are different, in part because of the reliance on russian energy. the debate that has broken out between on the one hand, people who say, -- that the fight must be to victory, to punish russia so much that it cannot be a threat. and ideally, to overthrow vladimir putin. and others, who say that that is not realistic. that in fact, there has to be a diplomatic solution, that allows russia to retain some control over territories that it had in 2014. and maybe even a little bit more, not because that is just, it is fundamentally unjust, but because that is the only way to stop the war, to stop the terrible killing, and because ukraine simply does not have
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the military to liberate all of the territory that russia took from it. again, starting back from crimea and donbas, even before this iteration of the war. >> yesterday on the show, we are talking about how much of the world is looking at russia and ukraine, and the russian invasion to ukraine in one lands. they may also be looking at it through a different lens, because of the information war that has russia succeeded with, -- what russia is doing inside of ukraine, and ordinary troll to the advances of russia inside of ukraine. for one reason or another, where there it is investments, political processes, whatever. well i'm speaking about russian support for advances in ukraine, i think about iran who is allied with moscow, russia, putin, for sometime. china also being part of that circle. i want to speak specifically about what you have witnessed, on iran when you -- that has been on the backburner as we have watched the advances of moscow inside of ukraine,
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but it's something that you bring up, that is incredibly important. as we like to head to foreign policy by the biden administration. i want to look at what you wrote, is this. president biden has the chance to avert a nuclear prices that could push the united states to the brink of war and threaten the coalition he's built to -- he's not built it for one overriding reason, he fears the political blow back. talking specifically here about getting back into a nuclear agreement, with iran. how incredibly important you find it to be that biden get something done? >> since donald trump left the nuclear agreement that barack obama signed, iran has moved closer to the capacity to build a nuclear weapon. they have more and more iranian, and they have speculations that they are only weeks away from the capacity to build a bomb. by the end of the year, they could be only days away. it could halt and push back some of that, and at least give
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us a greater breathing room between russia and iran, -- where they have the capacity to build a nuclear weapon. as i argued in my piece, the biden administration has not been willing to re-enter the agreement, because there is one big remaining obstacle, which has to do with lifting the terrorism designation over something called the iranian revolutionary guard, the ideological wing of the russian military. as i argued in my piece, the problem with not doing it, is that it is basically meaningless. we have all of these other sanctions on the same very entity, and trump put this special new sanction, really especially to create a poison pill, to make reviving the iranian nuclear agreement and possible. i think biden has fallen into that trap. >> who would you say that the biden administration is afraid of, in making the decision whether or not to lift the classification of the irgc as a terrorist organization? >> they will face united
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republican opposition, but there were also be some democrats who will say, how dare you not call the iranian revolutionary guard, terrorists? they have killed american soldiers, which is true. they have done some really terrible things. that's absolutely true. but that is a kind of good 32nd commercial, but the reality is, we will have sanctions up the waziri on this entity anyway. what matters, is preventing aran from being at the doorstep of having a nuclear weapon. >> we now know what it is like to be dealing with nuclear arms, i.e. russia. that has obviously moved into ukraine, one of the reasons it seems as if the united states has not been taking necessary steps in order to stop russia's advance, is because they are nuclear armed. and what that could mean for the rest of the world, and figure that as well. go ahead. >> and not just russia.
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ukraine, if you remember, it gave up their nuclear weapons after the fall of the soviet union. libya gave up its nuclear weapons, and in fact with the iranians might be seeing, is that if you give up their nuclear weapons, you become more vulnerable to invasion and occupation, and we have to convince the iranians not to draw the lesson that they need a nuclear weapon. >> peter burnhardt, thank you for your conversation, i appreciate it. coming up next, how the community heels after the deadly mass shooting, and what is needed to help them move forward. ♪ ♪ i'm the latest hashtag challenge. and everyone on social media is trying me. ( car crashing ) but if you don't have the right auto insurance coverage, you could be left to pay for all of this... yourself. so get allstate. [♪♪] yourself. if you have diabetes, it's important to have confidence in the nutritional drink you choose. try boost glucose control®. it's clinically shown to help manage blood sugar levels and contains high quality protein to help manage hunger and support muscle health.
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zuriel: st. jude gave us hope. and delivered to your door stephanie: all you've got to do is take care of your child, focus on her healing, give her a life. that for mother means a lot. >> we're following some and-- and thank you to st. jude.
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breaking news out of new york city, according to nypd a man was shot and killed this morning after a gunman opened fire on a moving subway train. the victim in his 40s was struck in the chest a little bit before noon, while riding the northbound q chain in manhattan. he was taken to a local hospital was pronounced dead. police are currently searching for a suspect, their
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disruptions on several subway lines through the investigation, will continue to follow this story and bring you updates on it as we get them. okay, the youngest of the buffalo shooting victims was laid to rest this weekend, just one in a string of ten funerals throughout the week, reporter reported jury was 32 years old and moved to buffalo to act as caretaker to her brother who had cancer. the road ahead for all the people left behind by this attack is going to be long and it's gonna be difficult. as one of the victims relatives noted, it will take a village to rebuild what has been lost between now -- some of this part of the pastor julian could, pastor it's good to talk to you once again, you and i spoke i believe last weekend. and i appreciate you joining me yet again. talk to me, as we are here one week later, how this communities surviving and recovering? >> thank you so much for inviting me back. i think the community is holding strong, of course,
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there's still very broken more still grieving, we're still processing what happened, i think for many of us we are still in absolute shock as we drive past the tops market, and throughout the committee i greet people, and greeted people today here at the church. there was a sense that folks were still grieving, as is understandable, this is to be expected. i do see a resilience in the community, but as i said just this morning, i want to be careful about how we celebrate that resilience. we don't want to rush people pass the immediate feeling of grief and loss. we're gonna sit with this for a long time, there's no easy fix to this problem. >> there's no easy facts. and these feelings of hope and laws are certainly something, especially for those families, and the community at large having to deal with. what about addressing the problem? the reason why we are here today, the systemic racism that
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exists not only the buffalo community but around the country, are out of the world really. and the solutions that need to be put in place in order to eradicate this is stomach racism, whether it's on a small scale like investing in the community, are on a larger scale as well, what are you telling folks, how do you see that change coming? >>,, -- . ,? . ,, from certain corners of our political establishment about this type of white supremacist rhetoric. and the ideology and activity
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when we underplay this, we're all at risk. i think that we as a nation need to treat our violence problem, and our white supremacy issue as a public health issue or else we're gonna continue to come up against these things again. what i like to see in this community, yasmin, what we know after a week of serious listening, in the interim we need grocery stores, there's no reason we should relegated just one grocery store in this community. we need on board mental health support, long after the story is no more leading headlines. and then in the long term, buffalo needs an economic plan, this problems would never be solved in a sustainable way as long as buffalo continues, buffalo seaside and particular, continues to live in the poverty that exists here. >> do you have confidence that these type of changes will calm, we've seen historically in the city of buffalo for instance, the six most segregated city in this country.
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these problems have been persistent for quite some time, why does it take a shooting like this in order to spur change, and will it spur change? >> i think that's up to us, yasmin, i agree with you totally. i don't think it should take these types of things, i cannot believe that that's the only way, we can do whatever we want to do as a community and as a world, and as leaders. but we have leaders who often have other obligations and other places to -- other agendas to which they are devoted. we must make a conscious decision to turn this around, and i have to believe that we can do it, the question is will we do it. and that's a different question, that's the moral question, and i sure hope we have a moral fortitude, courage, and imagination to imagine and create something else. >> let's continue this conversation pastor, i thank you for now, but you can join us once again as we continue to watch your community and this
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country heal after this horrible tragedy. thank. you >> and i thank you yasmin for keeping this story. >> thank you. a few hours ago everybody, the first international shipment of baby formula arrived in indianapolis. we're live on the ground, we'll be right back. right back. r titans of tech who are making such a fuss over finally launching themselves into space? i've been putting millions of people into spaces for years. wait a minute. wait a minute. there's one going up now! how many of these guys are there? apartments-dot-com. the place to find a place.
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in your local grocery store and or drugstore? >> yeah, yasmin, it's a great question and the answer is as far as the stores are concerned it could be a couple weeks, here is why that shipment that we saw today, 70,000 pound hyper allergenic formula is formula that because the canteen of the term formula that you buy in grocery stores, so it is fda approved but nestle has their own criteria, their own testing that they do to ensure quality control. so, they tell us there's a portion of the shipment were results -- in the next couple will ship it out to hospitals, health care facilities and then disseminate -- but that's a prescription based formula the rest of that shipment that arrive today they say that those results are expected in the coming weeks, and then of course the ship them off, but we pass a mix-up timeline, and this is what he had to say.
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>> in a matter of a week or so, we should be dealing to see some supplies, but in several weeks we should be seeing an increasing supply, i'd say within the next 30 days will begin seeing -- there's gonna be a fly thing coming into dallas later this week, that's gonna help. so, we're just gonna continue -- >> so, that fight that is expected this week is gonna be carrying that gerber formula, a court that's such a fan at the store shelves, on the secretary tells us that we'll be right to need to see these things coming to the u.s. with formula trying to ramp up production here. >> listen was great news is all happening's efforts are being made, more formulas arriving here in united states to help these desperate parents every day is incredibly important, 30 days if you have a baby that you're worried about and their nutrition growing and their growth i should say i should sa
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an emotional night on snl, where tears as major cast members apart -- including pete davidson. >> i appreciate and snl always having my back, and allowing me to work on myself and grow, thank you to lauren for never judging me, even when everyone else was. and for believing in me, and believing that i could have a place that i could call home. with memories that will last a lifetime. thank you guys. >> that was the honest heartfelt part of it, that was -- before that, there were a lot of jokes. davidson leaving the show, along with kyler, knee kate mckinnon as well. one of her most beloved characters, it frequent ufo abductee, miss rafferty with a farewell to earth.
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could've been done to prevent it? something was almost done last year, the gunman then 17 years old, threatened to shoot up his eye school graduation. he was apprehended and brought in for a mental health evaluation, but was never charged with a crime. he spent the next year radicalizing himself on fortune, seeking validation for his views. promoting conspiracy theories like replacement theories. it's a pattern that we have seen again, and again, with nothing bad about it. joining us now is the cofounder of post industrial media. thanks for joining us on this. as i mentioned, a lot have -- he threatened his own high school, to shoot them up, he was apprehended, brought in for a mental health evaluation and subsequently released. there is no red flag put on his record, and he was then able to legally purchased a firearm in new york state. here's my question. is racism really a mental health issue? i think not. >> i'm not a mental health
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professional, but i agree with you. it is definitely not. i don't see the radicalization of individuals being online, who are using formats, influencing them. and then saying that these people are mentally ill, no, there has to be some responsibility of the individual. just because, if you do have a mental crisis, or are sub to both to these kinds of conspiracy theories and racist ideals. it doesn't mean that you are not responsible for your behavior. >> we talk a lot about how we need to start addressing attacks like the one in buffalo, a terrorist attack, a domestic terrorist act in buffalo. a lot of times people say it will say if issued or is, white, they're often referred to as having mental health issues. if you have an issue with a different race, they are not subject to that. you have spent a lot of times overseas, and learning about the radicalization of people overseas, young men who specifically. if you look at the
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radicalization of this individual who shot up a tops supermarket in buffalo, compared to people seen specifically in afghanistan, where you have done a lot of work. what similarities do you see? >> during the course of my career, i feel like i have had a front row seat into this situation with radicalization of young men. in afghanistan, you had a lot of disaffected use from afghanistan, pakistan, places where they did not have opportunities, education, or jobs. and they were turning to the taliban, because that was a sense of belonging, and perhaps a small salary to go along with joining this radical organization. and then when i went to iraq, and i was covering the war there. we saw the radicalizing of young men online, a lot of young men from the middle east, from europe, in the u.s., coming to iraq, joining isis, and taking up this cause. they had been recruited online. jump ahead to 2020 with the
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pandemic, we had a lot of disaffected youth who are isolating alone, in school, like this young man in buffalo. with the buffalo shooting. they were radicalized because they had delved into this dark web of conspiracy theories and antisemitism, and neo-nazi propaganda. they become consumed with it. this young man may indeed may have diagnosed problems, but that obviously does not excuse him. too often that's the case, that these white shooters who are unfortunately -- it's these young white men who are engaging in these terrible crimes. and terrorist attacks. they are given this past, because they have been isolated for so long, they're disaffected, they had mental problems. no, i don't agree with that. >> carmen gentile, i appreciated, thanks to talk to you today. the republican effort to ban
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bring on today with comcast business. powering possibilities.™ >> welcome back everybody, my head-scratcher the week banning books in schools is just the beginning for some republicans who now have their eye on your local bookstore. tonight comes and asked for a restraining orders that would prevent barnes and noble from selling two separate books to
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minors the books, our gender clear which is available on the barns a noble website if you want to copy by the way. and a court of mist and fury, targeting of barnes and nobles part of a larger lawsuit by the way, to also get the books out of schools, the court is not yet ruled on the request. this is an awesome story, my high five of the week, a tyler that would make the hamburg lure incredibly proud, a texas mom kelsey golden, surprised to find a rather raw as food order delivered to her door 31 cheeseburgers from mcdonald's. suspicion solely focused on a tiny, tiny culprit, her two-year-old son barrett, who was playing with her phone when he and inadvertently as he put it, he can't say that were attacked, as they put it, the story put it the likely story. kelsey play the 90 $1 price tag including 16 dollar dip posted an adorable photo of the burgers, barrett as you see right there who [laughs] for the record only eight half
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a cheeseburger, the family gave away the rest. that is why my kid never gets a hold of my phone, that's it for me i'm yasmin vossoughian, i'm back here next saturday and sunday 2 pm eastern. symone starts right now. 2 pm eastern. symone starts right now. greetings you're watching symone, today we are gonna be on the beltway, we're early voting numbers for the primaries are in and they're hitting an all-time high. parents help is on the way for some of you, much-needed baby formula finally arrived today in the states. we've got nbc's meagan fitzgerald, she's live in indianapolis, plus candy burris is here, we're talking everything from brockway, to business, and you know that include season 14 of the real housewives of atlanta. i'm symone sanders, and i have something to say.


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