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thank you for spending a piece of your saturday with me on this edition of simone. i'm simone sanders and you can catch me right here on msnbc every saturday and sunday at 4 pm eastern and anytime over on peacock or i have new episodes of the msnbc hub on mondays and tuesday's. but right now, i want to hand things over to my good friend, reverend sharpton. hey, rev! >> hey, simone. thank you for handing it over to me tonight is always. good evening! welcome to politicsnation. tonight's lead, bell weather. >> right now, early morning has
surged in georgia. early voting. ahead of tuesday's primaries in the state. more than 850,000 residents already have cast their votes, despite some of the most restrictive voting laws in the country. yet, the core of it all, -- a most visible reminder of donald trump's unpredictable but enduring pull on the gop. in a state that trump brazenly tried to bend to his will two years ago. is endorsed candidate in the state governors race. david perdue is limping behind incumbent brian kemp. trump announcing last minute a televised rally for purdue tomorrow night. on the other side, democratic former state representative stacey abrams is running unopposed in her race to become the nation's first black woman governor. tonight, we are all about with
the primaries will mean for the rest of the country. that's politicsnation this evening. plus, a new washington poll revealing the depth of our racial divide two years after george floyd's murder. now in the aftermath of the tragedy in buffalo eight days ago, black americans are sad and angry, but not surprised by last week's horror or optimistic about the future of race religion -- i will talk tonight on this show with civil rights attorney ben crump, joined by george floyd's brother. about which black america needs to see and what they need to see change after buffalo. would it could mean for democrats if they don't. joining me now, congressman johnson of georgia. democrat and member of the house judiciary committee.
congressman, thanks for joining us tonight. ahead of your stage primaries tuesday president strums candidate for governor, david perdue is badly -- behind brian kemp. because i don't have to tell you that trump's backing of perdue's largely to punish camp for refusing to help the former president undermine the 2020 election results in georgia. with that in mind, why are these primaries in your state so important to the rest of your country, congressman? e rest>> well, very important reverend al, thank you for having me today. voters in georgia, have an opportunity to repudiate donald trump and his big lie. perhaps once and for all but i doubt that he will probably be on the ballot himself in 2024.
but his preferred candidate, david perdue is trailing government by about 30 points according to recent polls. and so, this is a race that trump has badly wanted to win, if he loses this race it, will send a signal to the public that his potency is starting to wear a little than, at least here in georgia. >> early voting has surged in georgia, according to the washington post nearly 850,000 votes cast going into this week. the cut off or in person early voting that's despite the state's so-called election integrity act, restricting mail-in ballots, use of drop boxes, and voting that ends. what do you attribute the turnout to your state, congressman? >> well, i think, that voters
decided that it's just too complicated to even apply for an absentee ballot and then once you apply for it and receive it, then it's complicated to fill out all the paperwork and get it sent in, people don't trust what's going on at the post office, and so there there was a mass decision for the people to just go in and vote, that's what we're seeing record numbers of voters in person casting ballots. and the numbers of mail-in ballots being applied for, being sent back and has dropped -- so, what we're seeing is a lot of in-person voting, i think we will -- on tuesday as well. >> now, congressman, the house
select committee investigating january six is seeking answers from a member of your states republican delegation congressman barry loudermilk. they want to know about a tour he gave of the capitol grounds the day before the insurrection, challenging gop accounts that there was no such chores given by republican lawmakers. the request follows the move last week that former trump attorney general bill barr or, is now in talks to be interviewed by -- of course five sitting gop congressman including kevin mccarthy have yet to declare whether they will comply with the panel's recent subpoenas. you sit on the house judiciary committee, how should the panel feel with sitting house members who refused to comply with subpoenas? >> these house members who
thinks a subpoena, you know, there's still time to climb in and submit sethe to authority of the committee came. and gave evidence before that committee, only reason why they would not do so is that because they feel -- that is that manchin that that's the only reasonable explanation for their refusal to cooperate with their own brothers and sisters in the house representatives. they can come and give testimony, so be it, if there is dirty as we suspect, everyone knows that kevin mccarthy, suddenly changed his tune from being one that recognized this insurrection on january six 2021, was clearly
an attack on congress. he was captured [inaudible] trump. the reason that he was gonna do something about. and certainly, it changes and it starts to become an election denier and we want to know, the people want to know how is it that you change your mind, what was it? and the congress people who -- let my colleague jim jordan, mel brooks, those folks were all involved, scott peterson, all involved in the planning of the to count the vote, and so they have information that people need to have, they need to comply with the subpoenas. >> all right, thank you
congressman hank johnson of georgia. now we go to buffalo, new york, eight days after the terrible shooting attack on a supermarket that left ten people dead, joining me now is the mayor of buffalo, by byron brown, mayor brown i was with you just a few days ago in buffalo of the national action network, network chapter that you attend regularly. and in the wake of the aftermath of this senseless killing, yesterday, you let a collective moment of silence for 123 seconds in honor of the ten individuals whose lives were taken, three of whom were injured. how has your city been coping one week since this tragedy? >> still morning. trying to heal, people wrapping their arms around the families
of the victims of this hate filled domestic terrorist attack on our community. people wrapping their arms around each other, holding each other up, trying to get through this drama that our entire community is experiencing. >> the top supermarket is a store in what many have called, a quote, food desert it has -- access to groceries and other supplies. where can members of your community now go to get groceries, when the only accessible store they've known has been shut down, and also do you anticipate tops to ever be reopen, you and i talked about some of that when i was there thursday, -- to try and provide food, but the route will tops reopen and what are the alternatives, i mean you --
federal government and others to invest in the area, because one of the reason tops was targeted is there's no other supermarket within a four mile radius, something that you try to deal with as long as you've been mayor, before as long as i've known you? >> thank you, reverend sharpton, thank you for coming to buffalo, your being there was a big boost to our community. certainly helped with the healing process, you spent time with the families, and that was tremendously appreciated. you spoke with a large audience, hat -- baptist shirt. and people left your speech, feeling lifted, by what they were expected to hear from. near the supermarket is critically important to that community tops has been a
strong partner with the community, and they are providing transportation to members of the community that don't have access to vehicles to get to other top soups supermarkets in their network. they also are providing service for people to fulfill their prescriptions, many people in that surrounding community, use the pharmacy at the top supermarket so they are providing transportation to other top supermarkets in the network, they're providing delivery service to fill prescriptions for people that need to get their prescriptions filled. the president of topps, john parsons, has indicated to me that tops plans on reopening the supermarket as quickly as possible, they understand the trauma, to the community, to their employees and certainly
to the families that ought to reopen with a full remodel, when people -- it looks like a new store. it looks like a different place, but it will be a center of community like it was before. they hope that it will have even more food offerings than it did before, and will be a real improvement to the services for groceries the people have prior to this horrible event occurring. the other organizations that have come into the community doing food deliveries, food distribution, mcdonald's corporation was in, fed thousands of people in the community. fraternities and sororities are feeding people the buffalo
urban league's been on the ground providing services. so, we will continue to do that in the community. >> central kitchen is there. let me raise this, following the shooting governor kathy hochul, introduced a plan for tighter gun control on wednesday, she vowed to investigate social media platforms, promised to fight domestic terrorism. i was actually president of signing of the executive order, -- she gave one of -- do you think that this is enough and will it be an effective measure? >> i think it'll be helpful, i think it will be an effective measure, but i think more needs to be done at the federal level, governor hochul and i had the opportunity to speak to president biden when he came to buffalo to speak to the
families, and help the community, and healing process that we talked about, sensible gun control and federal level, we talked about raining the internet in. making it more challenging, more difficult, for hate speech to pull proliferate on the internet, for people to be radicalized, white supremacists on the internet. so well governor hochul's executive order is very important and we'll have an impact, more needs to be done at the federal level. >> all, right thank you and i'll be back in buffalo this week for several of the remaining funerals, thank you buffalo mayor byron brown. the lives lost in the buffalo shooting later in the show, now an update on the way in ukraine, russian military forces are reportedly renewing the attack on the eastern part of ukraine,
on the donbas region according to a military analyst. now let's go to kyle part is joining us live from kyiv, for that latest report. would have you've been hearing? >> river, in the last 24 hours we have seen heavy fighting continuing in eastern part of the country. the donbas region where russian troops including western officials making progress where it is quote, incremental and slow progress. so much of the fighting you're seeing. the damage there is from heavy artillery fire from russian forces. and this is sort of the mo in the southern part of the country -- when they seen mario pull bombing into -- at least eight people killed in the last 24 hours. another 21 people wounded. in the northern part of the country in the kharkiv region, again, we see ukrainian forces
pushing russian forces back to the border, making progress there. that is really where we see the most successful counterattack. here, reverend, we saw the first nullified joint interview with president zelenskyy and his wife today, separated by more than two and a half months of war. the first lady saying their story mimics and mayor so many stories here across ukraine. reverend? >> all right, cal perry. thank you after the break, we will rise up to pay tribute to those killed during the mass shooting in buffalo just over a week ago. later, two years after george floyd's murder at the hands of police, we will talk to his brother and the attorney general of black america, ben crump, about what progress has been made and the long road ahead. but first, my colleague cory with today's top news story. cory? >> thanks, rev. here is the story we're watching for you at this hour. breaking news out of new york city. police are searching for
suspects after a fatal shooting on a subway manhattan. witnesses say the passenger was shot by a man who had been pacing the car and pulled out a gun without provocation. the incident comes just a month after ten people were shot on a sent out on subway in brooklyn. 70,000 pounds of specialty baby formula for more than half 1 million baby bottles arrived in indianapolis via military planes and germany. the biden administration invoked the defense production act to address the nationwide shortage, and authorize military flights to import supplies for overseas. a second shipment of formula is headed to pennsylvania in the next few days. pennsylvania's democratic nominee for senate has been released from the hospital after a stroke. lieutenant governor john fetterman spent more than a week in the hospital, even as voters head to the polls in last week's primary election. more politics nation with reverend sharpton after the break. reverend sharpton after th break. break. what happens when performance... meets power? you try crazy things...
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to continue honoring the lives lost in the senseless mass shooting in buffalo new york. the city of good neighbors where ten black people were gunned down. they were mothers, brothers, grandmother, sisters who are simply buying their groceries. it was aaron sultan junior, 55. he was being called a hero, as he was the security guard on duty and exchanged gunfire with the suspected shooter, potentially saving lives. he was a retired buffalo police officer. ruth whitfield, 86, the mother of the former buffalo fire commissioner. she was on her way from visiting her husband in a nursing home, something she did every day and she stopped by the store to get something to
eat,, a grandmother, missionary in her church. she enjoyed dancing, singing, spending time with her family. she ran a food pantry in the central park neighborhood for 25 years. feeding people every saturday. that was purely young. catherine massie, a beautiful sold, described by her family. she used to write for the buffalo news and worked for an insurance company for 40 years. and he can hayward patterson, 67 years old, he would give back to the community by driving people to the grocery store. philistine cheney, 65. leaves behind six grandchildren and one great grandchild. she was also a cancer -- cancer survivor. roberta drury, her friends
describe her is being full of life, happy, who cared for everyone. her mom said before she left for the grocery store she said quote, mom, this is going to be a good year for me and you. marcus d marceline, 50, two worked as a school bus aide and his companions said he left kids. they gravitated to him. he loved his job and almost never would call and that he was not coming in. bob andré mcneill. 53. an uncle and friend. he was at the grocery store that date by his three year old son a birthday cake. and geraldine tally, 62. she and her fiancée had just spent nearly three hours at the pier, enjoying the day. her sister says she had just learned she was about to become
a first time grandma. we say their names, because they are more than a number of casualties. they were in trickle parts of their communities. we must all rise up and continue to remember them so they did not die in vain. this attack on americans should cause us all to say never again. we will be right back. ight back. but walmart's got your back with thousands of rollbacks so you get everything you need to keep your summer rollin'. because when you save money, you can live better.
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friends and family forever missed loved ones, missing their loved ones and this coming wednesday will mark the second anniversary -- of film documentary of police brutality that shocked the world. the incident triggered at appeared to be a transformative moment of race and policing in the u.s.. but two years later, that transfer as federal election and congressional legislation on our -- negotiations fell apart and new polling from the washington post suggests that since floyd's murder, americans have not seen a change in how they are policed compared to whites. and generally, we don't expect to. joining me now, is civil rights
attorney -- of black america and philonise floyd, brother of the late george floyd, and head of the felonious and key to floyd institute. for social justice. and you know, -- we worked on a lot of cases, but i haven't seen a family like the family of floyd, all of them in lived, felonious, akilah are energizer bunnies for justice and i see bridget doing activism all over the country and right here -- become an advocate. they've really been in the movement, i want to thank the family for being an example. brandon, the names go on and on, felonious and i talked three or four times a week, and he's always doing something, thank you both for being here tonight.
this week, the offices that participated in george floyd's arrest, along with derek chauvin, continue to face legal consequences. this week former minneapolis police officer thomas lane pled guilty to aiding and abetting manslaughter in floyd's murder. he's expected to serve -- the federal sentence violating void civil rights. thinking about and we'll get back how black americans view policing two years later, do you think the conviction of derek chauvin and some of the officers with it, have had an impact on our courtrooms or is that unrealistic? >> reverend al, i think it has had an impact because even more than derek chauvin being convicted of guilty, guilty,
guilty other police officer were convicted may cause because of the culture of the police when you see a ballot, doing something stop them from doing it is probably the most important conventions that i have seen in my 25 career as an indictment on the culture of policing. i think george floyd was killed not only because of derek chauvin's foot on his neck for nine minutes but he was killed because of the culture of policing that is bias against black people in america. >> now, we're having some sound issues with felonious, we'll get back to him in a second. and i want to go back to those polls from the washington post this weekend, black america's feeling for george floyd's murder and after the events in buffalo, which respondents were
generally -- angered by. only 8% of the respondents were surprised by the massacre, possibly because seven out of ten black americans think that at least half of their white peers old racist beliefs according to the poll. only one in ten believe that race relations will remove over their lifetime. more than half said they will get worse. and nearly eight in ten black americans do not think police treatment has improved since george's murder two years ago. apart from the psychological torment of this poll, black color experiencing how do you respond to these numbers? >> reverend al, first i start with the last question you asked about george floyd, black people believe that nothing has changed in policing. it's very difficult to think that two years has passed so fasten george floyd was
tortured to death and -- to tell you that we had to do something about this because this was the tipping point and we all believe that we were gonna get, finally, some federal reform on the national policing. and it's language installed in the united states senate, to the point where, this year we have seen the deadliest year on record, so far for police killings of american citizens. so, reverend al, what it tells us that president biden hopefully is going to do something whether it's an executive order something, some federal decree that we need to address policing in america because if he doesn't, where do we get hope, when we go and vote in the polls, if we've seen -- so my hope and my belief are
that they will do something and i want to thank you reverend al, on buffalo a domestic terrorist act and we need to keep calling it that. and we need to encourage president biden, to ask united states congress to pass the anti black hate crime act because this white supremacist see, is the greatest threat to the red states aside a. >> well, homeland security's evening saying that, i have sao now with felonious, brother george was taken from you two years ago, a moment that appeared to be gavelek flushing for the nation of policing and andrés generally, i can only imagine the tragedy in buffalo was on your mind in addition to the second anniversary of your brothers border you called me
right after about what happened, how are you holding up and what do you say to the families who are going through the pain that you and your family, okita and the rest, for the last two years but would you say to them watching? >> you know what brad of, there's not much you can say about their loved ones being lost, but one thing i can -- is they need to stick together and they need to focus on getting these laws passed to make changes, -- on this time. it is a tragedy and they're looking for culture, just like i wanted closure but that's something you can't get their loved ones back. the fact, that they made all these laws and passed, to stop
what's certain people like police and -- the you can't stop what people have. i want them to know, is keep the faith because faith is all we have during these dark times. that's all we have. >> i've seen you, i've done several eulogies at several funerals of police related deaths since george's death. and you've been there, brandon, a key to an everyone, what do you make of the fact that nearly eight intent americans do not think that police treatment of blacks has improved since george's murder? >> well, i understand, i'm with them when it comes to it, because i have seen anything. they haven't put on a lot of plays to change anything not until they put a lot of a situation that's happening
we're always gonna have problems, we can put laws in place to stop police from doing the things that they're doing, but the hatred that happened in buffalo that's something that's being talked from ancestors way back when, just like our ancestors of what's going on, it's $2.22. we shouldn't have people shooting guns, and thinking about making videos of how they want to kill somebody we can go to the six, where people are putting their leaves under a fake gummy plate just like chauvin had, so reverend al, this is what i'm gonna tell you if they can make federal laws to protect the -- they can make federal laws to protect people of color. >> wow, he has turned into a real spokesman, rodney --
i don't know, he's come up with stuff i didn't count. philonise floyd and benjamin -- as we stand in buffalo, we also stat for justice for george floyd. we'd be lost, we need federal action, i thank you for joining us tonight. coming up, my political panel joins me to discuss former president trump's influence on the republican primary, and what to expect during this week's election in georgia. you're watching politics nation. cs nation i'm a fancy exercise bike noobie. and i've gone from zero to obsessed in like... three days. instructor: come on milwaukee! i see you! after riding twelve miles to nowhere, i'm taking a detour. and if you don't have the right home insurance coverage, you could be working out a way to pay for this yourself.
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midterm primaries are set for tuesday in georgia. the state where the 2020 election cycle came to a memorable and. joining me now to talk about that and other political topic this is my panel. former republican strategist rita, and alicia johnson. -- officer of ten 63 west broad. let's start in georgia. former president trump went all in for former senator david perdue, because he wants to punish brian kemp for refusing
to overturn the 2020 election results. now that purdue is down in the polls, trump seems ready to abandon him regardless what happens. former president is going to claim he has a near flawless endorsement record, but isn't this a spectacular defeat for trump? if you can't convince republican voters in georgia to go along with his -- >> it's certainly looking really positive for those who did not want trump to have the influence he could potentially have -- a former u.s. senator with high -- a former u.s. senator so he's able to raise money in a remarkable way. the two things i think purdue is missing, that trump wanted to see was his loyalty. secondly the showboat style that trump's likes to see and his candidates that he does give endorsements to, but the
real man -- the real nail on the coffin for purdue was the poll showing him really down. brian kemp looking at 60 and perdue at 20. yeah -- why abandon a sinking ship? [inaudible] >> alencia, a record of 857,000 georgians have voted. many of them republicans. those are the most hotly contested primaries. but democratic activists say they're have been success changing their tactics to turn out voters despite new voter restriction laws passed by republicans. as you look at the turnout situation in georgia, what do you think it means for stacey abrams to be the first black female governor in the country? >> i think the people that voted for her a few years ago are probably still energized
[inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] from the 2020 election when we -- not only were they -- you know, those are record turnouts in order to get president biden elected, but they also elected to democratic senators that had been the key deciding votes in the senate right now. so this is actually kind of good news for stacey abrams while voters, democratic voters are trailing a little bit. we have to think about the voter suppression efforts. unfortunately, causing activists to have to use new tactics in order to make sure that voters are able to cast their ballots, even with the voter suppression laws. so you've seen that in georgia, while different -- trailing in early voting, we do
-- to make up for it when they when it comes to the elections. >> georgia is responsible for with the break going to the democratic vice president. makes me saying the rate charles song georgia on my mind. former president trump's political influence may be waning in some races, but the big lie remains a powerful tool amongst republicans. especially at the stage level -- the new york times is that with an analysis today finding that 357 gop lawmakers in battleground states took steps to discredit or overturn the 2020 presidential election. that represents 44% of all republicans in those state legislatures. in pennsylvania, you just saw the nomination doug mastriano,
a man who used campaign funds to send six shot of buses to the capitol riots on january 6th. experts worry that mastriano is elected, he would have the power to create chaos given the 2024 presidential election. wet should be done about these threats to our democracy? briefly, please. >> this is very new to our country. in the modern era we've not seen these kind of threats. nobody really knows what to do with them. the pinnacle of this big lie is how trump continues to go around and talk about how the 2020 election could have been decertified. uses that word. that word is really important. certified the results. therefore, the people are like yeah, that's a possibility. it's not. there's nothing in the u.s. constitution or in any constitution that makes it possible for the president of the united states to do that. it's very important that we
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