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that does it for me, thanks for nything so you can do anything. watching, i'll see you back here next weekend. 5 pm eastern time, american voices starts right now with msnbc. >> thank you so much reverend sharpton hello everyone i'm alicia menendez, we begin this hour in georgia. a battleground state served as ground zero in donald trump's big lie. that poison to the democracy still lingering, trump's hold of the republican party mere hours from facing another big test. tuesday, georgia will hold a primary for governor, trump's backing former senator david perdue over incumbent gop governor brian kemp. purdue's an election denier who says he would not a certify biden's 2020 victory state.
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like most times in trump world, his endorsement of purdue boils down to loyalty. backing only those who follow line. the washington post says that reality this way, angry that camp refused to help him overturn the election results in a key battleground state, trump set out to topple it, he called him a turn corked, a coward, and a complete in total disaster. he pumped two point $6 million from his political action committee and efforts to unseat camp, far more than the former president has spent any other race. that is -- just because he loves you today, it doesn't mean guarantee he will still love you tomorrow. after millions of dollars and trump cash, trump seems to be given perdue the cold shoulder. sources tell nbc news, trump believes perdue is running a lackluster campaign, as of today he has no plans to -- in georgia before tuesday's contest. given we know how much trump
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loves making phone calls to georgia, he will voted in tomorrow, holding a tele-alley for supporters unlike our viewers, want to hear trump's voice. meanwhile the atlanta journal-constitution reports former george w. bush and former new jersey governor chris christie, are backing kemp. -- his own vice president mike pence with camp monday. all of this as a new fox news poll polls camp ahead of purdue by 30 points. joining us is greg bluestein, -- political white house reporter eugene daniels, and alexandra marquez of research with nbc news political unit. it's good to see you all, greg, this is your state this, is your expertise talk us through what is happening and this gop race for governor? >> you hit the nail on the head with your introduction. this could be the most significant political defeat for donald trump since he lost the 2020 election.
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he didn't just endorse -- it into some emails saying, this is my guy. he's taking extraordinary steps to elect him, he persuaded imran, he helped clear the field for him, he's spent two point $6 million from his pack on ads, he has had four in prison alley rallies in georgia since the 2020 defeat. -- and he is taped a number of ads and listen to if you look at the were all over the airwaves in georgia promoting. so, he's now having this teller alley here in georgia tomorrow, but he can't wash's hands of david perdue. he's put a lot on the line, even if he's trying to downplay david perdue's electoral will that be end up being another route, donald trump has helped him every step of the way. >> yeah, eugene, this also comes at a tale at the end of a tale of races that we have watched trying to glean whether not trump's endorsed mint is a big factor in these races, you
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have trump urging doctor oz to just declare victory, of waiting for pennsylvania's final bill count, new political reporting reads, ever since the 2020 election, the republican party has been transfixed by trump's baseless claim that the 2020 election was rigged. a falsehood enlargement georgia the republicans still believe. it's an obsession that has animated primary campaigns across the country. yet in pennsylvania, trump's earliest efforts to graft his 2020 complaints on to ballot counting in a midterm primary is falling flat. hard-liners have lost primaries and other states in recent weeks have not contested the results. i think this is an interesting dynamic, eugene, you've got a lack of claims abroad when it's republican running against each other, which i think sort of it's good for our democracy, right but, you have rest questions about the validity of fair and free elections, but it
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says something to me about where the party is, what does it say to you? >> no, i think around a percent -- max cawthorn of north carolina's talked about how the election was stolen from him, in his primary as he was beaten by an incumbent. what we're seeing is gonna continue to see is that the republican party is still pushing and pulling between the big lie and the people who are backing say camp, right? former vice president mike pence, chris christie the former governor of new jersey, all of these folks who are hoping that they're able to save their party, if you talk to them about this that's what they say a lot of these primaries ads. one thing that is very interesting about the -- better than anybody is that president trump, as the inability to see it seems, how someone can both love him and someone like governor kemp, right, and that's what we're seeing you have republicans in georgia saying yeah, of course
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we would vote for donald trump again, but camps are guy. that's one we're seeing in the polls. most of these fox news polls have been pretty accurate when it comes to things as we've been watching in the republican primary, that's the thing to keep the eye on, as the republican party moves forward to the general election where they've been very nervous about the kinds of people donald trump is going to back, people who care and spread the lie, spread the big lie they, continue p-word up that but that may not work to their favor. they're trying as much as they can, but not for these establishment, establishments that is the establishment of the republican party. the fringe is now the establishment, but the rest of them are trying to do what they can to fight, cancel perfect game in georgia, that fight may very well work out for him. >> i appreciate that last point you made because i feel that even we as journalist, we who talk about this, analyze this are looking for a new lexicon in which to talk about the
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republican party, what it means to be a mainstream republican, what it means to be a fringe republican, and when we talk about endorsements, alexandra, over the years trump has endorsed hundreds of candidates i want to hear from your research does having trump as an endorser of your campaign help win over voters as it once did, and how do you -- that reality, stem approval actually sending cash versus the fact that you have a lot of people who may not get his endorsement, but they're still touting the big lie, there's still trumpy in their ways? >> yeah, that's very true, that's a great point. i think a lot of times, the local lecture and other candidates didn't matter, and in a recent nbc news poll that we conducted earlier that we found that 29% of americans said they were more likely to vote for a candidate that as an endorsement of trump versus 49% that said that they were less likely to vote for a candidate endorsed by trump. obviously that's the american
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electorate broadly, the republican primary is pretty safe to assume that republican voters are definitely more inclined to vote for republican endorsed by the former president, but any endorsement is not a guarantee so even in pennsylvania there was not a lawn stunt and we're still waiting for the results, in that case the endorsement didn't help someone went out right, similarly eugene brought up -- in north carolina he went down in the primary in idaho, -- against you know it's easily possible governor of idaho, brad little, so sometimes the local electorate, they can take a big part in their popularity can eventually you can overcome the endorsement of trump. >> i want to ask you a treatment and the idiosyncrasies of your state, georgia is an open primary state, democrats can cross over to vote in the gop primary and vice versa. the agency reports some democrats might vote strategically to help nominate our public and they see as more
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vulnerable in november, others more like republican candidate want to punish david perdue and other candidates backed by former president donald trump. talk me through the dynamics of voters being able to move across parties? >> yeah, our data shows about 8% of voters who have republican primary ballots voted in 2020 in the democratic primary. doesn't mean they're democrats, but means that there are a [inaudible] significant number, it might not matter in the long term, it's hard to say that all of our voting for purdue or significant members as you mentioned some of them might be voting against trump endorsed candidates because they don't want any chance that david perdue in general election. some might feel the deputy could be more vulnerable against the stacey abrams, it's really fascinating because of these interviews i've done, most of them, most people say they're voting not strategically they're voting against the trump candidates even if stacey abrams might of a better chance against --
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a for blind county because they don't want any chances for david perdue being on that ballot with poll showing -- 60%. we have seven or 8% of voters voted for brian kemp, it won't matter, it gives another angle to why brian kemp's doing so well in these polls, he could be headed to a landslide victory. >> i've gotta get one more question into you before, cpac the formidable -- held its first ever event and hungry, authoritarian state where does this tell us about the gop's affinity for autocrats, the fact that cpac made that choice? >> yeah, we've been seeing this happen for months, and months, and years actually when it comes to the settlement of the republican party. donald trump among them talking about how much the authoritarian of hungry that he's strong and, tough those kinds of things, shows is that there still continues to be an anti-democratic wing in the
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republican party, the small d, right, that's going to continue because if as you watch through all of these different elections, whether it be at the state level, at the federal level, on the school boards were seeing a lot of republican talking about -- being more authoritarian, talking about over powering the rulings in the will of the voters as we see with mastriano and pennsylvania. so, that's something to keep our eye on because it's key to us understanding the republican party, the midterms, and to the presidential election because overall in this country this buildup in the democracy is good, are gonna have to fight. i contend with over the next few weeks. >> eugene daniels as always, we'll be seeing a lot of you the next 48 hours, alexander i've been very much wanted to have you on this program, i hope you come back. soon coming up next, tough to happen right around the wife, of supreme court justice
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pressuring officials to overturn a free and fair election, we're gonna dig into the latest news surrounding ginni thomas. later, stockpiles of infant formula finally arriving in the states, new york city declares a state of emergency over the shortage, had we get here, plus title 42 the trump rule allowing the expulsion of migrants under the guise of covid, stay in place for now what that means for those seeking safety in our country, when american voices continues. voices continues if your moderate to severe crohn's disease or ulcerative colitis symptoms are stopping you in your tracks... choose stelara® from the start... and move toward relief after the first dose... with injections every two months. stelara® may increase your risk of infections, some serious, and cancer. before treatment, get tested for tb. tell your doctor if you have an infection, flu-like symptoms, sores, new skin growths, have had cancer, or if you need a vaccine. pres, a rare, potentially fatal brain condition,
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calls for supreme court court justice clarence thomas to be impeached and removed. accused himself from cases involving elections. his wife has been caught red-handed spreading trump's big lie in hopes of overturning the election. messages obtained -- ginni thomas pressures to
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arizona lawmakers to stand strong and use the power they have to invalidate arizona's election win for joe biden. jeanine thomas writing to arizona state president saying quote, this responsibility is years and years alone. a republican is now running for arizona state on a platform of election denial. and her ties to the thomas family go well beyond ginni -- justice thomas's godfather to one of the children. joining, us political national correspondent betsy, and -- co-host of the ig and politics high stack sisters with jill and betsy on msnbc contributors. jimmy, talk to me about the strategy that ginni thomas was pushing for in arizona?
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>> the role that state legislatures play and so many facets of our lives is not a thing that often gets -- it often gets overlooked and broader civic discourse in the way that this country works. but it does not get overlooked on the conservative movement and far-right edges of american politics. going back to 2010, one of the most important, most significant legacies of the tea party movement was flipping a huge number of state legislatures, both individual bodies, almost every state legislature models, washington and has two different chambers, but individual bodies and taking control even star tate legislatures as a whole. first the tea party was a total failure when he came to trying to repeal the affordable care attack. but in the act of those legislative leave those changes -- has shaped a host of policies including perhaps most importantly, abortion laws
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governed in large part by states. we are seeing now is the impact, the legacy of the tea party that has been materializing in a new way. so many of those conservative and far-right state lawmakers who were elected because of concerns about the deficit and health care spending were very quickly and easily co-opted onto the trump train. had no problem getting on board with trump's broader political and philosophical project. now that cobourg of people's working to change the way elections get administered in this country, just change the way votes get counted. its own port in the people understand it's not just washington that shapes the way there were lives work, but it's also state legislatures, which should mean much more democratic's should be responsible because that number of constituent votes -- much smaller number. it just can't be overlooked. >> betsy, a plus. thank you for laying that out as clearly as you did, because we talk about this all the time,
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and yet it is really wonky and easy to get lost in those details. not fully understand the baseline that we are talking about. jill, likewise, i think it's easy when we talk -- that's not quite right. we talk about the connection between ginni thomas, the big lie, and what we've seen at the supreme court. i just never wanted to become normal. i don't want it to be something that we gloss over, because it is truly unbelievable, right? the impact that this is having on our democracy. talk to me about potential conflicts of interest, former husband justice clarence thomas and how you believe it should be addressed? >> first of all, justice thomas should be recused and almost any case that has anything to do with the episodes of january 6th. i'm little using that in the broadest possible relationship. ginni thomas should be called as a witness, because she had a very significant role and
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trying to overturn the election results. she has emails that we have seen to mark meadows. she has emails that we are talking about now to the speaker of the house in arizona, and to her friend. who is a representative who is no running for secretary of state. someone who clearly believes in the big lie, the big steal and who is willing to overturn the results of the election. i want to add one thing that betsy said, which is the real risk to us now is a democracy is that the states could change, because of the power that they now have and because of the attentions that republicans have paid to, to make sure there are mostly republican run. it gets changed the law that says that the voter chooses the elector. the law in arizona does say that now. that is how they have delegated who chooses electors, but they could undo that law and say that the state legislature is the one that chooses who gets
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to vote for the election. they can choose anyone they want, so that's a real risk. it's not just that they're suppressing the vote, they are now starting to not count the vote, and everyone should be really, really concerned about that. there's two different sides to this. one is the crimes that may have been committed. the effort to overturn the election by jimmy tonic -- ginni thomas, and that creates a clear conflict of interest for justice thomas, so that he should not be in any way a member of a court that the sites any issues that relate to this. >> so betsy, given everything that jill just set out, it is our understanding that before these arizona emails emerged, political has reporting that house democrats would close, which any thomas on the backburner. do you see that changing now? >> it is so interesting and still a little bit of a black box as to why democrats and
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republicans on this january 6th select committee have not even to our knowledge written a letter to ginni thomas politely asking her to answer some questions. they went that far with presidents daughter, sean hannity. the fact that tournament again, ginni thomas has not gotten the letter like that suggesting that for some reason she is being treated in a more deferential way than people who are even as politically powerful as kevin mccarthy who is likely to be the next speaker of the house. this is something that has generated real head-scratching. congressman adam schiff was on this network a couple days ago when asked about the january six committee. his response was very loyally, he basically said there are other ways that we can find out things about ginni thomas, and the committee as a whole is going to have to make a decision. that was used to imply that was not a consensus on the
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committee about an appropriate next step would be in regards to ginni thomas. the question whether these new emails would produce a consensus in terms of at least, politely asking her to answer some questions, it's something that we would expect to have in the next couple of days. that already, the fact to our knowledge, and congressman schiff prepared to confirm, that fact was again that the committee has not reached out to her to our knowledge. it's already a different way of treating -- than many other prominent republicans are facing from this. almost always. >> we are going to keep talking about this. betsy, jill, thank you so much. the new york city declares a state of emergency over the nationwide infant formula shortage. it is arriving with new shipments today. how long before all of those things that you are seeing right there are in the hands of those who need it most?
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new york times opinions runner-up jessica gross joins us now, as well as traveling behind the childcare crisis and elliot haspel, good to see you both, elliott here is the thing and talk about childcare that has been the big issue that we've discussed. what is the formula shortage and the response to it, say about the way that this country values family, values parents, values care? >> i think it says that this country puts parents last, generally when it comes to public policy so, we're feeling a formula that comes after years of no monopolies in the industry, and we're seeing this bear laid bare the failures of the wicked program, women infant and children -- half of the babies. it turns out that extremely restrictive policies that's become a huge issue. so, even tied together the lack of baby formula how difficult it is to get benefits to pay for it if your lower income,
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the lack of affordable childcare, the lack of infant -- the lack of fair work week lost parents spent their children, all this is very much side-y of a free market, but still the families of the free market. and have limited public options instead of providing the support that every family needs, so that they and their children can thrive. i will say, the biden administration, a whole of government response we're starting to see -- these emergency bills that were passed by the democrats, many republicans to expand wick, the flexibility, there's gonna be to be a reckoning moving forward about the formula industry, there's been a reckoning about the wicked program but i will say, we talk a lot about government failures. right now we're starting to see some legal response to that. i do think credit where credit. stu >> jessica, you in your piece make a point that i want
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to underscore here is that formula is really expensive, it cost parents between 1500 and 1900 dollars a year. as a result, there's always parents in this country who cannot afford to feed their babies to address this issue, congress passed that bill last week talking about expanding access to formulas for low income parents. is it enough to rectify the issue, what's the actual lesson here? >> so, i think it's enough to rectify in the near term. in the long term the supply change issues are completely predictable. there were shortages in the beginning of the pandemic, so, lots of parents especially parents who need additional help from lake, or having trouble finding formula on the shelves i interviewed a bunch of them in march 2020 especially -- especially for cannot find what their babies needed. instead of taking action two years ago which could've happened, they could've reform whip, right now a lot of these laws are lacks, the way it works that you need to buy --
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in certain quantities, and those rules could've been relax at the beginning of the pandemic. and that would've ease this burden and not made the case where it for companies that are supplying 90% of the formula for the entire country, other countries don't work this way. so, this has been sort of a slow rolling crisis, that again, as elliott said, if you are a country that prioritize parents and especially parents with young children anybody could've seen this. coming so, in the near term i think a lot of this crisis will be ameliorated but in the longer term i would love to see a lot of these rules and regulations have a second look taken at them. because a lot of the regulations are necessary, baby formula is essential for feeding invents, so we don't want any regulations and just anything getting in there. but i think, this is a moment where everyone's eyes are on it, either gives us an opportunity for major reform. >> speaking of among where
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everyone's eyes are on this, elliott, he recently wrote about -- baby stimulus checks of $250 a month, tell me more? >> yeah,, part of the issue with which is that even if you expand the flexibility you still need to go to a store that except wick, essentially there's no ability to use it a lot for lower income, what that means is a smaller storm may have supply, again, formulas expensive you can afford it wick does you absolutely know. good they're not calling for direct financial assistance to low income parents that have infants as a way of decoupling their ability paper infant formula, and using wick, emergency expansions and so we bailed out, happy to bail out business, airlines, protection programs -- which companies. so now we need to do is real pay allowed to provide a stimulus to mothers and fathers
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you have infants, reviving they have some direct cash assistance, they find some online, they find some at the corner store, or drugstore that smaller, which are the places that right now have supplies. so, money doesn't make supply magically appear but you could load supply not no. supplies of those places that do take wick, that are the most sold out. when i'm calling for, in virginia, the city and philanthropist coming together to do exactly this, i call on the president, congress a call and other cities, and the libraries think about this as well. we can just get get, devil cards into low income parents, get them some money and it will actually increase their options as the shell start to fill back up over the next coming weeks and months. >> as we're having this conversation, elliott and jessica, we have breaking news present biden announcing the first to infant formula defense production act authorizations
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president announcing this will all happen for instant infant formula. the two injured former manufactures can now begin to add legally binding language to suppliers a look at them priority over other customers. here's the other thing, jessica, this is where it fits together is what elliott said at the top which is this idea of individual solutions to things that are clearly systems and structures problems. so, even though the access would pass with bipartisan support, there were some republicans who voted against it. house also passed pass a different bill -- capitalist the ongoing baby formula shortage. that's currently solved in the senate, facing opposition from republicans, what's does it say to you that have lawmakers in this country, who are voting against feeding babies? >> everything is so incredibly polarized. to me it just says that they can't be seen to be giving democrats a win even if it
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means feeding babies. and so, that's all that it says to me, that everything is so stuck in this sort of death match. that we can't get people to agree on something because it might make -- for 30 seconds. >> jessica,, elliott thank you so much for being with us. next, title 42 the trump policy that stayed in place for now, what does it mean for those seeking asylum. stay with us. stay with us re all feelin' the squeeze. we're having to get creative. find a new way. but birthdays still happen. fridays still call for s'mores. you have to make magic, and you're figuring out how to do that. what you don't have to figure out is where to shop. because while you're getting creative, walmart is doing what we always do. keeping prices low for you every day. so you can save money and live better. ♪
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to fight a judges order last week for title put title 42 in place, at least for now, the trump era policy prevents migrants from seeking asylum in the u.s. under the guise of protecting people from covid-19. the justice department said that it will peel the federal judge's decision arguing that the authorities determine the health policy should reside with the cdc. joining me now nbc news correspondent julia ainsley, immigration rights advocate julissa natzely arce raya, julissa is the author of several books are latest being, you sound like a white girl, the case for rejecting assimilation, julio can you tell us about what's happening with title 42 right now as we look ahead to this coming week? >> well, it's definitely on hole we know that it was supposed to lift tomorrow, over
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170,000 migrants waiting in terrible conditions in northern mexico in cities where they're often exploited kidnapped, tortured, rape we've heard these terrible story time and time again those people are now still waiting there because they're denied the right to asylum into the united states. it doesn't apply to everyone, they're often exceptions made, but we know that many are still waiting. the cdc has decided that monday would be the day that those public health authorities would expire, they would no longer be pushing out asylum seekers back into mexico, in order to stop the spread of covid but instead a trump appointed judge in louisiana has put that on hold. so, right now title 42 stands, it hasn't been upheld by the justice department that will now go up to the circuit level and it could go all the way to circuit court will definitely see immigration policies at the supreme court before. i will point out some of the biden administration had even been reluctant to remove, there had been lawsuits on the other hand, suing them to left it earlier. may 23rd was the day they agreed to but now it looks like
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that's on hold. >> of course, julissa, she follows the story closer than most people we rely on so much of it. reporting you watch the story unfold as an activist, as an advocate, what does it say to you? >> well, i think the conversations we're having about title 42 right now, they point to much bigger problems around immigration and how immigrants continue to be scapegoated by both parties. i mean, we just saw that sinema on the senate side has introduced a bill -- that would effectively and title 42, that would effectively and for years to comments so to me, the biden administration took too long to remove title 42, now you have democrats who are panicking about the midterm election and are being pulled pulled into a
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republican strategy of these immigrants, to scapegoat many of the real problems that we have. i think that it's very sad to see the proliferation of making immigration a policy we should be focusing on the human rights we, should be focusing in on the people, who very much deserve, and should have the right -- >> julia, to state the obvious you have the most covid restrictions being lifted across this country, if title 42 was put in place to prevent the spread of covid, i would say that it was the guise of what they're doing in order to not allow people to seek asylum in this country, explain and to me, the judges reasoning for keeping keeping title 42 in place? >> he saying the biden administration followed the administration procedures act. it's the exact same argument sought -- dhaka. and of course they didn't get
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the stakeholders then give them a lot to weigh in on how they might be affected, and you're right this has been the guise of public health, because the states were saying that they didn't have enough time to weigh in how to be affected. were suddenly the first lift all kinds of covid restrictions and mask mandates etc the first place, but they're seeing that this would overwhelm their states, states like alaska are claiming this, talk about immigrants coming across the u.s. mexico border, and it comes down to the fact that now the biden administration needs to go back and say, we don't need to go through a rulemaking, allow time for comment, this is a public health order, or they're going back to that argument. advocates even when the trump administration started said, this is a border enforcement action, has nothing to do with spreading public health especially to take about the exceptions. how can you make the argument that ukrainians, or unaccompanied trouble don't carry covid, and they're allowed in but somehow women crossing with a child, would be a higher risk of carrying
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covid. it's hard to make those arguments. >> right, -- that this is about politics, not actually about policy, angela lisa regional you and i were supposed to talk about having the governor of texas trying to blame the formula shortage in the fact that there's formula going to feed migrant infants in detention, i mean, it's part of the same idea that if you have something that is, you don't that's happening this country, but you point the finger at one very vulnerable group of people and blame them for all of your misfortunes. >> yeah, that's exactly right. and i think all of these republicans who are bringing up immigrants for the reason of these problems, they actually are highlighting some real problems, right, we talk about the baby formula going into detention centers, what does that say? it says that there are babies, infants require formula who are currently in these detention centers, who are prisoners of
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the federal government. so, that to me is the real problem, when we talk about again public title 42, would it really says is that we are trying to become a nation that no longer is a place for asylum seekers, where refugees are welcome, we're no longer a place that is providing hope for people around the world, and there is a very real difference in how we treat immigrants and how we treat refugees. depending on what country they're coming from, and depending on their skin color. >> julia, yeah julissa, thank you as always. finding strength in tough times it's not easy, one of peloton's most popular instructors, has some tips and she's here to share them next. share them next. (man) [whispering] what's going on? (burke) it's a farmers policy perk. get farmers and you could save
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