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fetorman says he's focused on getting back to 100%. who he'll face is an open question, but for now, a little rnr for him. thank you for letting us into your homes. "the beat" are ari melber starts now. welcome to "the beat." happy monday. i am ari melber. we are tacking another big state in this primary season right now. you hear the music. it's georgia, once gave the senate two democrats, partly from shifting democrats and partly from donald trump's extremism leaving office, which boomeranged on him. georgia is back voting tomorrow in the governor's race, in a place where trump remains in a criminal investigation for an attempt to shake down a top administrations official. a plot that failed. and then trump recruited
candidates to run against the republican who is defied him, a sort of authoritarian revenge tour. here's the news tonight as we approach tomorrow's primary. fresh signs that tour may fail. trump's hand picked challenger to the governor, backing the big lie by claiming that the actual winner joe biden stole the race. >> first off, folks, let me be very clear tonight -- the election in 2020 was rigged and stolen. all that started right here in georgia when our governor caved and allowed radical democrats to steal our election. >> so, that's what trump's candidate perdue is selling, and trump's using his mega phone to brand the incumbent governor, kemp, as a turncoat or coward. but trump's not pulling out all the stops to campaign for him, instead offering a telerally for perdue tonight, and that bring us to the facts portion of this little interscene primary brawl. how is this actually playing in
republican primary where we've heard from politicos and d.c. elites so much about donald trump's sway over the base? well, these numbers tell the story. kemp up by a whopping 30 plus points among likely republican voters, and that's in a new fox news poll, and republicans who are eyeing the party's future by trump's former vice president pence are rejecting trump's pick and openly backing the encumbent kemp. pence is out stumping opt ground in georgia today, which is a complete rejection of donald trump's position in the race and of course against could have played it safe. nobody was demanding that he do anything in georgia. he's doing off his way to reject trump's attempt to punish someone who wouldn't steal an election. let's be clear -- if you remember anything about the four years of the trump/pence administration i bet you remember this is a kind of independence that mr. pence never showed while in office,
and yet trump and his rapid fans treated pence on the way out is etched in history. and perhaps etched in mike pence's mind. because those people who stormed the capitol, some of whom have been indicted and convicted, were part of mobs that made public heinous calls to assassinate mike pence. that led to the indictments, the insurrection probe, led to an impeachment, and also led to what we're seeing now. they have mike pence spending his own political capital and influence to stop trump in georgia, to stop efforts to incentivize the big lie be the mechanisms to steal future elections which could look even worse than what you see on your screen. well, depending on what happens tomorrow, when the voters decide, mike pence might just do that. he might just, along with some other people, stop donald trump in his tracks in georgia again. let's get into the big preview of the primary with e.j. dion,
author of "100% democracy", and the daily beast's margaret carlson. e.j., what you do see here in georgia? >> you know, you were talking about trump's revenge tour. clearly this is mike pence's revenge tour, and he has clearly made a decision, as have some other republicans, that the next election is open, that trump is by no means the automatic nominee. there's a straw poll in wisconsin over the weekend, where trump didn't do very well and governor desantis did quite well, and the irony here is that kump is no liberal. kemp signed a voter security bill which many see as a voter suppression bill. i see it as a voter suppression bill. but he has been turned into a kind of moderate by trump's attack. but i think the key thing
here -- and after he lose -- after david perdue loses, i am sure we'll hear this a lot from donald trump -- david perdue is a lousy candidate. he doesn't like to campaign. he doesn't like much about the process. he lost that senate seat, and by every indication he's going to get clobbered tomorrow. >> yeah, margaret, we see this playing out again and again. trump's demands that the republican party relive for them what was the nightmare of 2020 -- not only losing of course the presidential race, but losing georgia in a way that many people who followed it didn't think was inevitable by any means. now they're become in georgia reliving the big lie and reliving another loss. i'm just curious what you think this says about trump's political acumen. >> well, the only beef that trump has with kemp ands that he wouldn't commit treason for him and overturn the georgia election, which was counted, audited, recounted, re-audit
beside won fair and square by joe biden. that's the only beef. where the republicans have gone, from fearing they can't win without trump to fearing they can't win with him in november, because some of his candidates that he's endorsed don't look good in the general at all. you know, dr. oz pulls it out in pennsylvania, this is a guy who lives in new jersey, votes in turkey, running in pennsylvania, pushes nutritional supplements. and he's unlikely to win against john fetterman, who just got off the hospital. cheers for that. who's comfortable on the factory floor, not on the faculty lounge. he's the guy in khakis who's of the people, who makes a point of it. so i don't know about pennsylvania. then the governor -- the governor's candidate, who's a protoinsurrectionist, doug
mastriano, how can he win? he was in washington on january 6th. he was there. jennie thomas, she wasn't actually there, even though she pushed it. so i think republicans are having a moment where even their governors association is trying to, you know, get some of their people to win primaries and then go on in a general rather than have trump's candidates do that. >> you mentioned dr. oz. those nutritional supplement ads, they sound great what they offer. there's only one problem. >> they don't work. not that i tried them, but in general, i think the fda tells us that nutritional supplements don't work, so it's not a good post for him. the interesting thing about these candidates is that they're groundhog day in reverse. they keep saying the same thing and doing the same thing over and over about the big lie and
january 6th. and they never get better. unlike bill murray, they don't. there's no self-improvement. they don't get better. they just become more trumpian. by the way, trump is so disloyal. look at mo brooks. didn't think he was dong well, dropped him, and now he's doing okay again. >> he's doing better since marring rat dropped him. i agree with margaret's analysis that they don't think they can do better but they are in a bit of a box. they can't win with extreme trump candidates and yet they can't win the general election if trump voters don't turn out. one of the reasons democrats won those senate races in georgia after the general election is that a lot of voters stayed home. trump wasn't on the ballot. so, the republicans have to knock out bad trumpist candidates, and they failed to in pennsylvania. trump, by the way, that guy is
so radical that trump waited till the end to endorse him, and when it was clear he was going to win. the other thing i'm starting to wonder about is, if there isn't a particular pragmatism in republican electorates in these republican governor races. they think the house is about bomb baas, so they'll nominate really bombastic trumpists for those jobs, but in some governor's races like nebraska, idaho it looks like, in georgia, they worry about schools and roads and bridges and parks, and they want stuff out of their state government, so maybe they're not as eager to nominate these kind of crazy people to be their governors. >> yeah, we're definitely watching something on two tracks where there's the real economy and the real concerns in america at a time when there's a ton of problems. people know them. they're living through rising prices. market jitters. more on that later tonight.
it's pretty interesting. then you have the political programming, margaret, this content farm that's moved further and further to the right, which is why they're embracing reality-style candidates. then there's people's reality. the democrats are seizing on the mastriano nominee in pennsylvania that you mentioned. they think that whatever supreme court justice alito and others do, they're betting the pledge is here to completely ban abortion linked to that expected ruling, would turn off voters. they're dropping 6 mill immediately. there's a human rights, women's rights substantive policy question there. we have been covering that. we took "the beat" down to the court a couple days. then there's what politicians have to do. we're in a nation that's a rule of law. supreme court says states now can ban what they otherwise couldn't. then the politicians are trying to make that a clear choice in
contrast in the next election, right, margaret? >> it's a bad thing for women, but it gets the democrats in the way because the counties around the cities where the suburban women -- they used to be called soccer moms -- will come out on this basis. it's always been a one-issue vote for the right, and now it could become one for the left, and that will help in these close races. >> yeah. e.j., before a lose both of you, the other thing hanging over all of georgia, which is unusual, but like many whacky and bad things has become normalized is this georgia race with trump and pence on opposite sides is playing out while there's an open investigation into the documented effort to commit massive voter fraud by republicans and steal georgia, which they failed to do. "the new york times" saying georgia's got a jury now considering whether trump committed crimes there. they have up to a year to
recommend whether prosecutors should pursue criminal charges against trump. i just got to say, we haven't seen that play out in any race in the modern era, including post-nixon for the reason that he took a pardon. but should that be normalize and how does that affect georgia as well? >> well, what trump did obviously should never be normalized, and i would love to be the d.a. trying that case, because all you need to say, is let's go to the tape. because trump is on the record asking the secretary of state to find him exactly the number of votes -- biden's margin plus one -- that he would need to win the state. if that isn't an invitation to voter fraud, i don't know what is, you know?
this is the one that is truly dangerous, because the evidence is overwhelming. what i hear is the case may not go -- be tried until after the november election. i'm sure democrats would love this case to be tried somewhere around october of this year. but i think he's really vulnerable in this one. >> yeah, and it raises a question we're going to return to in the program which is, with what you just said and the evidence what they have on tape, what exactly are the prosecutors doing? you can use grand juries but at the end of day, the prosecutors going for it or not. running out of anything is getting older is curious to say the least. e.j. and margaret, thanks for kicking us off. we'll be watching and msnbc will be covering this tomorrow. later tonight, speaking of georgia, stacey abrams herself joins joy reid on "the reid
out". she's the other side of the republican primary we have been discussing. that's going to be a very interesting interview i bet. coming up, rudy giuliani folded. there was debating, clashing but ultimately the january 6th won. nine hours of testimony from giuliani. we'll get into that. robert riesh is here on what you need to know about inflation, the economy, and market jitters that are affecting so many people. and as if that wasn't enough, i'm thrilled to tell you, our friend astrophysicist back on "the beat" tonight. we're getting into the ufos, alternative realities, and a whole lot more. shout-out to the multiverse. big show. stay with us. allergies don't have to be scary. spraying flonase daily stops your body from overreacting to allergens all season long.
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"x" on it. 86 1/4. >> 36 1/2! they called it black monday. no [ bleep ]-by 4:00 p.m. the market dropped 508 points. the biggest plummet since the crash of '29. >> holy. [ bleep ] [ bleep ] >> now, that's a rough monday. that was the notorious market crash of 1987 as depicted in "the wolf of wall street". stocked dropped 20% in a single day, which is a ton to lose to
fast. american stocks are now down about that same figure, 20%. they ticked up a bit today after major plummeting last week. >> the dow has tumbled over 1,000 points. the s&p and nasdaq are off 4% or more. >> we turn to wall streets where stocks had their worst day in two years. there was a huge sell-off after retailer announced a drop in profits. >> markets tanking today. dowon pace for its biggest loss in two years. >> dow transports down 7%, hitting its lowest levels of year. good for its worst day since june of 2020. >> these are major problems in the markets, and if there is a wider financial collapse or recession, that triggers a lot of pain. most people remember the 2008 crash, which not only rocked wall street but led to the great recession which hurt so many americans, drove so many job losses and bankruptcies, many of which had nothing to do with the
conduct of workers and then sparked corporate bailouts that riled american politics for over a decade. >> meltdown. the american financial system is rocked to its foundation. >> with california house prices falling by 50% or more, those who bought during the bubble are in big trouble. >> stocks plunge after the opening bell as wary investors digest yet another blow to the economy. >> perhaps the worst since the great depression. >> we begin with breaking financial news in what's being called the greatest reshaping of the financial industry since the great depression. >> the news from wall street has shaken the american people's faith in economy. >> you notice every time there's a big one, people mention the last one. the last ones were 2008, which were long and painful, and the covid crash, which turned out to be somewhat short because there was major rebound, with you that
may be why things are overheated right now. if there is a big crash, bigger than the 20% we've seen over this year, which is official bear market territory, that can upend everything. it changes where they can live, if they can buy, when they're able to retire, and of course who they want to be president. obama was elect in the 2008, and people remember his historic election for many reasons, but the crash and his perceived calm on the campaign trail as well as promising a sober -- to bring back the economy -- economists are eyeing a potential recession. the fed raising interest rates to deal with that and that could slow economy or have other effects. there's a problem with supply chains work tech evaluations running away from the market value. there's wall street gyrations. president biden has tried to calm matters, and his allies
point to the ongoing jobs boom coming out of, as i mentioned, the relatively short covid slump. so, how do you make sense of any of this? you have to be an economist or someone in the market who understands how it works, and you might have to have some experience on the government side because this is one of those times where the government interventions in the economy are big, which brings us to someone you may recognize, robert riesh. he was a labor secretary in the clinton administration. he also likes to explain things with graphics and numbers that are allegedly digestible if you're willing to do some math. and just last night, he had a cameo along with hugh jackman on the beloved "simpsons" where they broke it all down. >> factories closed, here to explain it is robert riech. >> the rise of short scythinged politics all contributed to increased economic inequality, unemployment, wage stagnation,
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the heck is going on. in a nutshell, i went through some of the recent events. why is this happening right now? what exactly is happening in english? >> well, it feels like we're in a cartoon a lot of time, but we're not in a cartoon. the first thing i think is very important to focus on is that the stock market is not the economy. there's a connection between the two, but there's also a disconnect. the economy can be very hard on a lot of people and the stock market can be doing very well, which is what happened the last two years. the stock market is now doing badly, hitting a rough patch, but the job growth seems to be on the right schedule. i don't want people to suddenly think that because the stock market is doing badly everything else is kind of going in the wrong direction. there are some problems. the basic problem is inflation, obviously, and the biggest cause of inflation, the biggest cause we know is the covid scare, the
covid experience being mostly over, the pandemic mostly over, we hope. and that -- unleashing that great deal of pent-up demand and also a lot of supply shocks, hard to get the entire global economy running again. then on top of that you've got ukraine and on top of that you've got china shutting down, closing down, there are a lot of things going on, but the biggest worry and the worry i have is the fed may be overreacting and raising interest rates may have nothing to do with all of the above. >> hmm. when you look at all of this, how much of it relates to a global pandemic the likes of which the modern economy hasn't seen? the economy looks very different now than it did with the influenza 100 years ago. and how much of it relates to other factorsing us a mentioned in the clip we've shown, which
is the decline of organized labor, although there's been a resurgence, and some of the apparent greed and self-dealing by millionaires and companies at the top? >> the biggest factor, in term of inflation, the biggest factor is the pandemic. i mean, that's really -- if you go back to -- people forget. go back to january, february, march 2020, and the economy went into a tail spin. now it's coming out and we're seeing the reverse of what happened two years ago. so it's not surprising that we do see inflation as the kind of converse of the recession that we had two years ago. but that gets me back to the point about the fed. the fed is treating this as if it's sort of a standard wage push inflation. well, it's not wage push inflation. in fact, wages aren't even keeping up with inflation. that's why i worry about the fed
overreacting. >> we did show viewers the great timing of what you did last night. i want to ask you about it. we're going to show just a little bit more of robert reich on the simpsons. >> the decline of -- corps greet greed and short nighted all added to economic inequality, wage stagnation and a lower standard of living for millions of americans. >> something i've never -- i don't think i've ever asked anyone in journalism before, what's the best part of being a cartoon, and how did this come together? >> that's a good question. the people who are very, very clever, a producer of the simpsons, tim cook and others, they contacted me and said, we would like you to do a duet with hugh jackman. i said, lookit, i can't sing, for one thing, and i really don't have much practice being a cartoon character. they said don't worry about a thing. i went into a little studio, and
i did what they told me, and all of the credit -- or blame -- is on their shoulders. >> well, we love that. we love the timing, and there's multiple ways to learn and process everything we're going through, so tip of the hat there. professor, secretary, good to see you. >> good to see you, too, ari. >> appreciate it. coming up, the january 6th committee wins. rudy giuliani loses after the squabble he testifies. we're going to get into that. but first, the pentagon now saying some ufo videos are just unexplainable, and we have kneel de grasse tyson joining us next. here we go. it made me feel trapped in a fog. this is art inspired by real stories of bipolar depression. i just couldn't find my way out of it. the lows of bipolar depression can take you to a dark place. latuda could make a real difference in your symptoms. latuda was proven to significantly reduce bipolar depression symptoms and in clinical studies, had no substantial impact on weight.
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and we're back with one of our "beat" favorites, acclaimed astrophysicist neil de grasse tyson. how you doing? >> hi. i like that sound, a "beat" favorite. >> you earn it, you get it. i want to show viewers, of course, you're right here. we covered something i haven't come back to -- yeah. >> bring it on. >> we've got congressional hears on ufos. first in 50 years. at a minimum, u.s. relating to this different limb u.s. navy declassified a video that shows a spherical object whizzing by a pilot. we can slow it down. here you see some of it. here's what an official said. >> is this one of the phenomenon that we can't explain? >> i do not have an explanation for what this specific object is.
>> no explanation there. your reaction writ large? >> that's what ufo stands for. unexplained flying object. so why are we surprised that a video of an unexplained flying object is described as something that they can't explain? i don't have a problem with that. the issue is when you take this leap to go from unexplained to, because i can't explain it, therefore i know what it is, it must be visiting aliens from another galaxy that happens to be particularly intrigued with restricted navy air space. okay? that's just -- it's something that didn't show up on google images of satellite images of earth or in any of the million views people take outside of airplane windows every day as everyone is equipped with their
high resolution cameras and videos. just consider that we have crowd sourced any possible alien invasion simply because, last i checked, 6 billion smartphones scattered across earth's surface. we got this. if we're visited by aliens, i'm pretty sure you won't need congressional hearings to establish that fact. >> "a," i read your skepticism, which is always interesting. "b," what about the presentation of science, which is technical, and government panic management, which is sort after a different enterprise? because i'm sure you noticed a shift from the almost hypersket si, worried that anybody could say anything -- is. what do you think of that approach? >> it was always there.
project blue book goes back decades and as was noted, it's not the first time there's been hearings on such objects. the military has a huge budget. last i looked it was $600 billion or $700 billion. i would hope some of that is going to monitor stuff in the sky that we cannot explain. so the fact that everyone is somehow shocked or surprised that the government has thought about this problem over the decades, i'm surprised that people are surprised. and so, the real -- where the rubber meets the road -- >> i'm surprised you're surprised people are surprised. >> that i'm surprised. where the rubber hits the road is whether -- it's just at what point are you going to believe that what you can't explain are just aliens? that's what i'm saying. or believe -- i'm putting this out there -- that if the government were actually stockpiing aliens, that they
would somehow manage to keep that a secret. >> right. >> just think that through. even the janitor, okay, sneak in a smartphone, get a picture of a gooey alien, and the janitor would lose his job overnight and be the most famous, richest janitor the next day when that video hits social media. and i'm -- maybe i have a higher standard of requirement for evidence that we have been visited by aliens. otherwise, it was fine. by the way, i was delighted to see republicans and democrats together it was like, oh, my gosh! you know, the prospect of aliens brought two halves of congress together asking similar questions. i was delighted by that. >> yeah, if that's what it takes. i hadn't thought about it that way, but you're right, get off earth into normal conflict allows for a different investigative process at the very least. so that's ufos.
i promised folks tyson on more than one thing. there's the talk of the multiverse. if focus don't know what that means that's okay. that's why we have neil here you may have heard about it in marvel films like spiderman. take a look. >> what do you know about the multiverse? >> there's theories. he believed it was dangerous. >> you opened the doorway between universes. >> we don't know who or what will go through. >> there are multiple realities. this is earth 6166. i'm earth 883. >> i'm sorry, you're saying there's a multiverse? i thought that was just theoretical. >> reporting lye from earth 1, best as i know, but i could be wrong. explain to us. i don't know if you heard about this, neil, but sometimes science fiction can be more
popular than the original science. walk us through what this means as a theory. and is there any relevance to this in people's reality? >> just to be clear, dr. strange appearing in comics long before he got his own feature high budget film was passing through these portals from early on, so that's not a new addition to his powers. as much as i love superman and wond -- i have to tip my hat except to thor, because nearly all of them obtained their pourers or developed them through science. just think them through. from the hulk to ironman to -- you just look through and they're invoking some edge of our understanding of science
to -- for that story telling, so i like the persistent appearance of science in the marvel universe. so, with regard to the multiverse -- by the way, marvel is about 18 months or more behind the moving frontier of science. somebody's reading the science journals and infusing the stories. we have had ideas of the multiverse for a while. for someone in the script the say, it's real? i thought it was just theoretical. that's not how we talk in science. we don't have evidence for it, but it is deeply connected to ideas that our successful in our current universe, right? when we merge quantum physics and general relativity and go to the early universe, multiverses pop out of that for free. we didn't to separately invent. that. once you have that, they're
available to us theoretically, and they could exist. we don't know how to get from one to the other. that's where you throw in the science fiction frontier. but until then, let them have it. i don't have a problem. >> far out. >> yeah, it is far out, it's very far out. by the way, a quick thing -- >> we're learning about -- >> i got to tell you, neil, i don't know what people say to you when they come up to you on the street, but people talk to me about world politics, their views of the press, press isn't perfect, press bias. one of the biggest biases of the press is the coverage of earth at the exclusion of the rest of the entire galaxy. i mean, we're in this big space and we're talking about earth a lot. and so with that in mind we have you here. news on black holes. apparently you'll explain, but there's an image of a massive black hole, which is in the
milky way galaxy, a ring of light which surrounds what "the new york times" calls, quote, a trap accord in time and space. and they have audio of what a black hole sounds like. producing sounds from a different black hole in a galaxy 55 million light years away. hit it. neil, explain. >> well, clearly there's a monster there. that's what those sound like. so it's -- i'm not as much a fan as other people are of assigning musical notes to cosmic phenomenon. i don't have anything against it. i'm just not a big fan of it, only because any time you have a pressure wave that's a wave
that's pressing back and forth as it moves through a medium, it is technically sound. whether or not that frequency lands within the low to high range of the human sensory system, but those sounds existed 48 octaves lower than anything audible to the human ear. so in order to turn it into sound that we would care about, you have to basically shift it artificially so that it lands in our acoustic range and then to -- >> got it. >> to say it's sound is a little misleading. >> last question -- does it matter today science is in a place where it can observe more directly about black holes this far away than at any point in history? >> yeah, what we're seeing a brand new portal of access to what's going on in the universe,
and any time we have new capacities such as that, new discoveies just flow like rivers through that portal. so i'm just delighted that we can image -- so, what we're seeing is really is shadow of the black hole and light distorted around it. great. keep going. always knew our galaxy had a black hole. now we have a direct measurement. now ready for the next marvel story to two through that black hole, come out the other side. >> well, as you said, this a know what to steal from. i got to tell you, neil, lil wayne used to say, i feel big, not in the sense of gaining weight. after listening to you i always feel smaller in this giant universe. >> but don't. i think you feel small because
we're trained that to feel special is to feel differentable but your atops are from scars that exploded, the nitrogen and oxygen. rather than look up and say, i'm small and separate, think to yourself, i'm large, because the universe is alive within me. >> now i just feel tipsy. >> a sense of retis pacing in the great unfolding of cosmic events and that's how i feel every time i go out and look up at night. >> respect. amazing. we love having you. hope you'll come back. neil de grasse tyson. >> ari, all in. >> great. respect. when we come back, we have the giuliani story. the january 6th committee winning again with a tough witness and by the end of the hour, the the great gayle king, big interview sbaes wonderful personality. we'll explain what you see here coming up. n what you see here coming up.
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when your daughter becomes first lady of the united states and your son-in-law is the president, how do you wrap your brain around that? >> i felt like this was going to be a very hard life. >> i'm not really a businessman. >> you're not a businessman. >> what are you? >> what are you? gayle king is known for her both probing and personable interviews as well as her fun-loving personality over at cbs which is real the only reason we don't have her on msnbc regularly. she works somewhere else. we get it, but that didn't stop her from joyously crashing our most recent beat fallback friday segment with music moguls out in baltimore. she happened to be in the room with them and then decided to
surprise us. >> we have a friend here, too, ari. >> hi, ari. >> how are you doing? >> i'm here because of kevin liles, so we're here today, kindness counts. everybody feels united. the pieter is really great. i walked in and saw these two sitting here and i said what are you two doing here and they said we're waiting for ari. i want to say hello to ari. >> i love you crashing interview. you can crash "the beat "quint views anytime. >> hey, ari, don't tell cbs. >> shout-out. >> i'm very, very thorough and very, very kind. i'll see you back home. >> i'll say this, gayle. have you my word. this stays between us. whether anyone else saw it on
friday, well, right now i can't speak to that, but please come back any time any way. thanks for spending time with us here on "the beat with ari." you can always find me on social media @ari melber and keep it locked right here because as i mentioned "the reidout" has a very special guest live from georgia starting now. a ♪♪ very special guest live from good evening, everyone. we are live tonight from liberty plaza in atlanta near the state capitol on the eve of georgia's primary election. now there are several major races that we're keeping a close eye on and, of course, georgia was ground zero for the disgraced former president's scheme to steal the 2020 election. tomorrow voters will determine if republican attempts to steal the next presidential election will be stopped. polls indicate that the race for governor will likely be a rematch of