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this fall but the other ways i wanna talk about real quick is bordeaux, and lucy mcbath. we're gonna end up losing a great deal of congress, no matter what. >> that is such a shame. their two solid candidates and one of them is gonna be no longer in congress. thank you very much. and that's it. that's tonight's read out. thank you for joining us from beautiful atlanta and all in with chris hayes starts now. tiful atlanta and all in with chr is hayes starts now. >> tonight on all in. >> brian kemp is a turncoat. he's a coward, and is a complete and total disaster. >> as republicans prepared to go to the polls in georgia, it's trump versus pence. the former president, backing one candidate for governor, the former vice president backing another. tonight, the future of democracy in georgia is on the ballot. and why for trump, it's personal. >> i just want to find 11,780 votes. >> the impact of the threat to
abortion, as texans head to the polls. and news tonight the january six committee will only hold six public hearings next month. committee member, jamie raskin, i'll ask him about that. all in starts right now. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> good evening from new york. i'm chris hayes. or just 11 hours away from polls opening in tomorrow's crucial primary electorate in georgia. and the two marquee races that republican primaries for governor, and for secretary of state. to trump back candidates are essentially running single issue campaigns, on the ex presidents big lie of a stolen election. you've got former senator david perdue, close trump ally, who lost his senate seat last year. he's challenging the incumbent republican governor, brian kemp. and you've got far-right congressman jody hice, who's hoping to oust the current incoming secretary of state, brad raffensperger. these races are notable, not only as a referendum on trump's attempt to do, but also to set
the groundwork for the next one. because out of all of trump's attempts to overturn the will of the voters and steal the election, what is the state of georgia, where he put his most effort? part of that of course has to do with how humiliated trump appears to have felt by his defeat over there, not only because the election was widely seen as repudiation to him and his movement, and it has been years since a democrat won it. but also, because he thought georgia was a red republican controlled state, and in trump's mind state republicans were supposed to help deliver his win. it all started almost immediately after nbc news declared biden the winner, the apparent winner of georgia. it was on november 13th, 2020, and trump's meltdown began in full. he immediately started making baseless claims of widespread fraud in the state, which he says undermines his loss. on november 19th, the day before georgia officially certified the election, trump's chief of staff, mark meadows, actually reached out to secretary of state, raffensperger, presumably to get him to delay that
certification. texting him, quote, mister secretary, mark meadow is here. if you could give me a brief call at your convenience, thank you. it's funny, he doesn't ask in text. maybe he sort of knows. as far as we know, raffensperger didn't return the call. and the next day, georgia certified biden's victory as expected. trump later went on fox news to publicly land bask governor kemp, for not playing along with trump scheme, to steal the election. >> they had judges making deals, and they had electoral officials making deals, like this character in georgia, who's a disaster. and the governor has done nothing, he's done absolutely nothing. i'm ashamed that i endorsed him. >> now, a few days later, trump actually called kemp personally, to pressure him into calling a special legislative special, where state republicans in the state legislature could throw out biden's victory, and instead, appoint a slate approach from election, which you might remember was also the basis of trump lawyer john eastman's coup plot. during this time, kept made an effort to publicly defend
himself, mostly honestly, but just throwing the republican secretary of state, raffensperger, out of the bus. get this, here's a statement. he releases it back then, reading in part, quote, georgia law prohibits the governor from interfering in elections. the secretary of state, who is an elected constitutional officer, has oversight over the elections that cannot be overridden by executive order. of course, we already know that trump was targeting raffensperger as well. on december 5th, the same day that he called camp, mark meadows tried to get through to the georgia secretary of state, again. meadows texting him, quote, mister secretary, can you call the white house switchboard for a call, your voice mail is full. the white house put raffensperger, who was clearly backing their calls in the back burner, because he didn't have a new strategy. the same with trump made those calls, his lawyer, rudy giuliani, went in person, down to georgia, pushing baseless claims of voter fraud, surrounding a nonpartisan election worker named freemen, who became the target of these slew of intense false right-wing conspiracies, which
inaccurately claimed, she was stuffing ballot boxes for biden in the middle of the night. even though those accusations were debunked, there is no evidence of fraud. giuliani went to georgia as a various before the state senate. >> this is a terrible, terrible constitutional crisis for him. don't have to be a genius to figure out what happened. i don't have to be a genius to figure out that those votes, are not legitimate votes. you don't put legitimate votes under a table. wait until you throw the opposition out, and in the middle of the night, count them. we would have to be fools to think that. so no need to push it any further but there is more than ample evidence to conclude that this election was a sham. >> again all that completely bogus, right? there was nothing that freeman did that was wrong. they caught her on some tape, and made some huge deal about her, she wasn't, okay? they counted the ballots, they counted them again, ruby freeman story does not and
there. giuliani's claims, mostly left out at the state. is legal challenges the election went towards. trump again working on it another scheme, again, all georgia focused, right? on december 28th, few weeks after those hearings, but then acting chief of the department of justice's civil division, remember jeffrey clark, he's plotting to have trump installed him as the acting attorney general, so that once in power, he can release a memo, using the official letter had, and applied legitimacy of the doj, to say that we're election regularity's in georgia, as well as a number of other states, and you authorized a legislature to call itself into session for, to throw biden's victory. had that plan succeeded, it would have cost a full blown constitutional crisis. i mean, it's really hard to overstate the damage that would be done to our democracy, for the attorney general, department of justice, to falsely claim there was election fraud, and say, hey, georgia you should know. you guys should call special election, because we just can't
say what happened. calling for legislators to go rogue and overturn the election. now, thankfully, the folks, the highest level of the department of justice, understood this. and they threatened mass resignations, trump backed down. but that was another failed plan. the clock was ticking. trump was running out of time. so, by now, this january, and he finally made it through the georgia secretary of state, brad raffensperger, for that missed call, when he told raffensperger to find the votes. and ruby freeman, dozen times. >> so, look, all i want to do is this. i just want to find 11,780 votes which is one more than we have because we won the state. >> 18,000 voters having to do with ruby freeman. she's a vote scammer, a professional vote scammer, hustler boot ruby freeman. >> she's not those things just
to defend ruby freeman was being slimmed. now, discredit, raffensperger stood his ground, which is why he now faces the primary challenge tomorrow. because trump ally jody hice, who's running against raffensperger, sure seems like he would have found the votes trump needed. that's that implied rationale for his entire candidacy. but since that plan failed as well, on january 4th, just two days before the election was certified in congress, a woman, later identified as a publicist linked to the rapper, kanye west, showed up at election worker, ruby freeman's house. now, keep in mind, ruby freeman has people outside of her house. she is being buried it on the internet right? this person knocks on her, and that she's representing power people, and then threatening they would come after freeman, if she did not admit to stealing the election from biden in the next 48 hours. >> we would like to let you know first and foremost, we
have -- over the next 48 hours in which to move you. [inaudible] i cannot say what specifically will take place. i just know that it will disrupt your freedom and [inaudible] -- the freedom of one or more of your family members. you are a loose and for a party that needs to tidy up. >> you are a loose and for a party that needs to tidy up. now again ruby freeman didn't gave, right? she didn't find a false confession. she showed an incredible amount of courage there, under truly bizarre circumstances, under pressure from this person, who's representing herself as a emissary for the powerful, right? ruby freeman stands her ground. and another attempt by trump's
allies to steal georgia failed. we're not done yet. because that same day, january 4th, u.s. attorney for georgia, b.j. pak, resigned. now, that was weird, we all kind of noted it. like, that's strange. it doesn't usually happen. he later said he quit before he can be fired by trump's forte, you guessed it, refusing to support trump's claims of election fraud. it was a multi-pronged, systematic effort over weeks, and weeks, and weeks, trump tried every link in the chain, to see what will break, so that he can overturn the results in the free and fair election. none of them worked, which is why he ultimately walked up the violent frenzy, where he tried to overturn the election by force. okay. next time, he's hoping he doesn't have to, right? because he his conception was, if i have my people in georgia, they will deliver the state for me. that didn't happen. but what he wants is that if he doesn't win outright next time,
he wants to claim that it was stolen the next time. and so, the first step for him is personnel, right? it's replacing politicians like governor brian kemp, and secretary of state brad raffensperger, who are political allies, republicans, who simply didn't go along with a plan. and on the eve of the primary election tomorrow, where this is the key thing that trump is focused on, kemp looks safe for now. raffensperger, secretary of state, the man who once the election, we don't know. that could be a real race. the guardians of the national -- she's been covering elections including the run for georgia primary tomorrow. ian bassin executive director of protective mockery, cnn profit election. also serves as associate white house counsel to president barack obama, and they both join me now. >> amy, i wanna start with you. there's been so much focus on the kemp race, understandably. high profile, you know, you've got vice president, former vice
president pence pence today, stumping for kemp. there's been way less attention, to me in some ways it's a more significant rate, which is secretary of state race, precisely because in the gubernatorial race, you know, there is a whole bunch of policy issues at play, right? and the secretary of state race, like it's pretty clear that trump once highest brad raffensperger because he didn't steal the election. what the race look like from the perspective of a republican primary voters? what is the texture of that race as someone who's covered it? >> so, i agree with you that it's a more interesting race right now, because it does look like kemp is in very good shape, going into tomorrow's primary. whereas raffensperger and jody hice our according to the most recent boris neck and neck. and you know, that's actually remarkable given what we all thought a year ago, which was that he was sort of a dead man walking with a republican electorate, after having defied president trump. but, you know having spent a week in georgia, a couple of weeks ago, interviewing voters and others, i really came away
thinking that even people who support trump, and would vote for him again, if he was on the ballot in 2024, are tired of the 2020 election grievance narrative. and want to move on and i think that both brad raffensperger and brian kemp have capitalize on that fact by focusing on you know their conservative credentials. by not necessarily shining the way for, from their decision to defy president trump. both of them had a role in certifying the election in 2020. but, by kind of skipping past it, and also embracing the sort of election integrity that has become a necessary element in many states for running for office as a republican. and i think we've seen that in both of these races, and i think that brad raffensperger, for instance, his top campaign issue this year has been making sure that non-citizens don't vote in georgia, even though there's eventually small number
of these cases in any event. but that's the kind of thing he's seen him do to navigate this. and, what i understand from talking to voters has made this as a close race and is it is, it is not that republican voters don't believe that there was something fishy about the 2020 elections, despite the lack of evidence. it's that they're ready to move on, and they want to hear about what folks are proposing, gas prices, inflation, you know, recovering from covid, and all of the other issues that americans are facing right now. >> again, i wonder, you know, your group has been very nonpartisan, and has really worked, i think to sort of strengthen and cultivate their relationships with people across the political spectrum who do stand for maintaining the fundamentals of american representative government. how do you view these primaries, the secretary of state primary, particularly tomorrow? there's gonna be another secretary of state primary in arizona, we've got the similar sort of issues, but dog must rihanna candidacy in pennsylvania.
you've got people that, are just sort of effectively, and explicitly pro coup, or pro big lie on the ballot. >> yeah, i mean, we've always known that trump was symptom not cause of a problem that is in our democracy. it's been whaling remark with his around the world, where people are and satisfied with ways, and sometimes frustrating, -- you know, what people wanted at all times. but that is lagged to trump unleashing a movement, really trump has trumpers out of the country, where you have candidates running for office who don't just have a different policy, they have a different reality. let's recall that none other than the one america news network, right, trump's favorite network, reported last week that there was no widespread voter fraud in georgia, 2020. and y still have these candidates running for offices that are in the elections, based on totally false reality.
as former senator waning him famously said, you're entitled to your opinions. you're not entitled to other facts. but democracy requires a set of facts, and so, one thing i think, if you're watching this at home and you care about a set of shared facts, you care about reality if you're not engaged yet in making sure that those people will oversee our elections, those who are committed to our constitutional representative democratic form of government, get engaged. i'll just name two places you can do that. run for something is recruiting for people to run for election officers who are committed to our democratic system and the rule of law. and the states dot org is another place we can get some of these and this is to make sure people get involved to preserve the democracy of the american people. >> a lot of what we saw sort of the up and down the chain right? it's volunteers. it's folks who are doing it for no money, or glory, they're just doing it this much-needed function all kinds of wild
slander or in the case of ruby freedom freeman. in terms of how the republican establishment of georgia has negotiated this, amy. you mentioned a polling we got a polling from april 10th that has a neck and neck raffensperger. but i noted this in your reporting for the washington post that hice is not running ads directly goes days at time without campaigning, which is giving raffensperger the opportunity to define the four term congressman in a seven figure ad campaign airing across the state, in which is to be a sleepy down-ballot position. how have the sort of response of the public in politics position themselves with respect to this race? i think that one really important point for folks to consider as there was weapons and giorgio as that these are two incumbents of name recognition that a lot of money. and then comes the case, the backing of the republican association. a huge effort to push back on
trump ivanson's as they call a. and that's a lot of power. and while it does provide a blueprint for republicans around the country who are targets and his grievance tour, that's not necessarily a working male strategy. hundreds of officers this year around the country, but it's not an incumbent, we don't have name recognition. we don't have the ability to raise money. and i think and open question right now is where roughly through the primary season is, what will sort of final outcome be? i suspect it will be the trump grievance narrative prevails. >> well said, we'll look into arizona, all the seminole penn state seat. we've already got a nominee in pennsylvania. amy gardner in the abbas and,
thank you both. as amy was saying, it does look right now like donald trump's handpicked candidates for georgia governor will be making a victory speech. who knows, 30-point deficit is still to come out of. that will be embarrassing for the former president, but a lot of that mike pence is in georgia tonight campaigning for purdue's opponent, incumbent brian campbell. that's next. brian campbell that's next. that's next.
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georgia with so many patriots paving the way for historic republican victory, six months from now will win back the house, when darkness on a, and realize governor brian kemp for four more years in the state house. he >> doesn't always unlucky is going a politician cadence bit? mike pence down in georgia for incumbent governor brian kemp. any other situation, this would be on remarkable. except, mike pence's old boss donald trump is backing the challenger, former senator david perdue. governor kemp is a microbiologist on every issue except one, he had not given to trump when he put intense pressure on him to steal the 2020 election. that's why charleston dollars
david perdue enough flailing insurgency campaign. trump could not be bothered to actually go to georgia for a last-minute push, instead, he held a teller rally with perdue a little while ago are people called anti around the disgraced former president. that sends alexa likely trump skies gonna win, this weekend, the back three incumbents republican congressman from georgia. they asked the bill before the near safe committee analysts that's where they claimed he led through the capitol. but endorsements are also notable because none of the three men is facing a primary challenger at all in safe republican districts. sometimes you need an easy one. tim miller served as director, he's now writer. he joins me now. tim, trump clearly was watching
the law records, lessened or some primary publicans who are uncontested so we can get some numbers on the board. >> sometimes you gotta take an easy one, declare yourself the grand marshal. >> the pence dynamic is interesting, because, again, i've no allusions, and i think it's fairly consistent in the mcgahn-ism is the dominant force in republican politics. it isn't republican politics is. the personal appeal of trump's a little bit diminished and attenuated. and i wonder you reads? >> a little bit diminished from's all-time high when he was getting saddam hussein numbers in the gop primaries, but i think if you look at his last live 18 2016, and the
percentages heals getting,'s numbers are above where he was when he won easily in 2016 over cruise. i think it's a little bit diminished. well up of gas called the focus group, and this week we did the georgia race. and there's not a lot of evidence muellers and many of these focus groups that they don't like trump. sometimes other things they consider, like any other voter. so them either want to move on, and some of them like the brian kemp example, he's a governor the job. brian kemp didn't do the covid obstructions. really some other on the census about the fanfare. they like that he but in the voting and to the so-called election integrity bill to respondent 2020 that triggered the left. a cause major league baseball
to reinstate it. they like the abortion bill lydia signed this year. so this is different, as you taylor greene, fatalist just to beat. they like the actual job to be did. so i think that is the story of this particular race, and it's less about trump itself. >> i grew becomes iteration. also the pink though fight those hard one for him. in the last look, i think in the front races, lower name recognition, there's much more danger. again, this is an intuitive thing, or a hunch feeling. but you know like a tv show for season one, and then for whatever reason either watch in a season to. like they just seems to be a little bit of, a stale knows, there's not a bigger voted and against trump, which is what i
would like to see. i think there's a little bit of a waning guinness generally because of the lack of novelty, because every increasingly sounds like them, etc. >> sometimes you get back on board for season five. here is the thing with trump, i agree, he's not a died of his powers. we are listening to these focus groups, essentially ones who say, i like him, i like the policies, i'm ready to move forward. here's the thing, though. there's nobody in these primaries or any races that wants to meaningfully move on with him who successful. that ohio senate race there was talking about, look, even in the company, he has come to today. during a press conference. at a great relationship the president trump. i never said anything bad about it. i don't plan on doing so.
this is the guy this was the moving on? that's the thing, there's weightiness popularity, -- >> i think that's a great point. we don't think he's more -- to miller, thank you very much. coming up with mike pence is supposed to donald trump, living extend beyond the campaign trail. jamie raskin on new upcoming hearings, rudy giuliani's nine our testimony after this.
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make a better california for all of us. months, a bipartisan january six committee has been investigating the insurrection. they've received over 136,000 documents, conducted over 1000 depositions and interviews, including most recently, with donald trump lawyer and major mclachlin potent scene earlier in the show, rudy giuliani. he reportedly met with the committee for nine hours on friday. and now, as the committee is moving to a new phase of the investigation, the long awaited public hearings, who we learned about all they have been covered. the guardian got its hands on the draft hearing schedule will, which shows six hearing scheduled for the month of june, only two during primetime hours. congressman jamie raskin is from maryland. he served on the general six committee, and is the lead impeachment manager in the second impeachment trial of donald trump, for inciting the insurrection. and he joins me now.
congressman raskin raskin, my sense is that you can't comment on this sort of stuff, but i'll ask anyway, is the leaked schedule correct? >> hey, chris. well, i'll just say in general, a lot of the leaks, not all of, it has been correct. we are very eager to get going with these hearings. you should know that the hearings are gonna be about the events of january 6th, and the causes thereof, but the whole question of recommendations for policy changes, to fortify ourselves and our institutions against future attacks will come later. so i think they'll be the opportunity for us to have hearings on other aspects on the charge under house resolution 503, after this hearings. >> i saw the news about rudy giuliani, and again, i don't know what you can or cannot confirm. but it is striking to me in some ways, when, as we near the
end of this, the number of people close to the president, they did end up cooperating with either invitations or subpoenas from the committee. >> well, everybody's got a legal duty. and a civic duty to be there. and we have made ourselves perfectly clear that we will hold people in contempt, to try to get contempt prosecutions brought against them for violating their legal obligations here. rudy giuliani, i should tell you, it's not much news. you know, hayes, he's no michael tiger. he's no bruce cover, as other lawyers go. but he definitely has a lot of information about with what's taking place, during those days, and you know, i'm hopeful that he is going to tell, or telling us everything that he knows. >> the only thing in the world,
basically, down like generally an expert on, is basically primetime political news programming. so -- i have an interest in the hearings in that, and the sort of professional capacity, obviously. but i do wonder like, how you are thinking about them, because people will talk about the watergate hearings, and i think i would say in response is, look, back in the watergate hearings, it was like 50 million people watching the tonight show every night. it was just a different universe. that's true, i, think even the benghazi hearings, you know, five or six years ago. like, it's a different universe right now, in terms of how central to the attention one can make a thing, how are you on the committee thinking about that? what do you think is the goal of the public part here? >> well, i'm with you on that. i think there's something even kind of quaint about the phrase, prime time. because, you know, those electrifying moments of television, exchanges between
legislatures and witnesses, or moments of real epiphany and conceptual breakthrough or moral breakthrough, those will get replayed all over the internet, all over all of the channels, and so on. so it's not as if you need to be watching every moment, in order to see everything that's gonna happen. it's also the case that we can put out, more material, even then we're going to produce for the hearings themselves, and make it available to people. and those people who are real students of the insurrection and coups in the 24 century america could study all of that. yeah, the thing about prime time that you can perhaps explain to me, chris, is how and that works decide when they are willing to give up their regular we schedule programming, and when not. and i think, i assume that's in part of the negotiation between our communications people and the networks. >> yeah i think that's an
interesting point. do you think, do you imagine in your head a set of people who are persuadable about the gravity of this, who are as yet to be persuaded, but can be persuaded by the public portion of these hearings? >> absolutely. and the reason i know that is because i have heard, certainly from hundreds, and perhaps thousands of people, who wrote to me after the second impeachment trial, to say they were either independents, or they were republicans, or they were teachers, they were professional professors. they were really watching to see what was happening, and they found that the evidence of donald trump's guilt was overwhelming, that we had refuted any and all of the frivolous legal and factual arguments that have been attempted by trump's lawyers. and so, i know that tons of people who were in movement then, and i think there are
even many more people movement now, as we see, you know, what was an insurrection attempted coup, the took place in the january of last year. and it continues to be an attempt to delegitimized our constitutional order, and our elections. and there are people, like the republican nominee for governor in pennsylvania today, who participated in these events. i think that mastriano rented three buses to take people down to washington for the stop the steal event. who are now being promoted up the ranks of the gop. so, the situation is far more dire than it even once then, as donald trump's continued to double down on the big lies, and the polemic's, and the disinformation. and his party continues to go with them and to roll with these theories. >> congressman jamie raskin, who sits on the committee that will be shifting into public hearings very soon.
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this hour, 21 days ago, where we got the lead draft supreme court opinion which would overturn roe v. wade. tomorrow, we will get our as we look at how that bombshell has reverberated, and how it might play in the midterm elections. the lone antiabortion i-70 crafts, henry clay of texas, it's bending his seat against immigration attorney jessica. but it's been pouring into this campaign a sensor started, a purse of 1 million dollars. according to the latest fec filings, she weighs 3.5 to 4.5. following the leak draft opinion, cisneros raised three
times like we are polled and, nearly $400,000. it seal richards is a former presidents of planned parenthood's. born and raised texan if she joins me. now. so co, or in a strange period between the lead of that opinion, and when it might come up. we don't know if that's gonna be the final ruling are not. but it is very much focused, i think i want to girls about abortion. even those who don't think about a lot. how do you view this race tomorrow night where you have the last to republican -- the last democrat opposed abortion rights facing a primary challenge was pro-choice? >> jessica's been a fantastic candidates and she is generated enormous enthusiasm because of her support for women's rights and workers rights. you have to remember, this is a
district that was withdrawn by republicans. and we go out was repay secretary of state. managed to draw those district, it's heavily under the new law rail. whereas whether is the sheriff. he had that big advantage, but i think she's running a strong race, and we will see. >> it's gonna be an interesting test case. is the first time the obvious on the ballot since this happened. on the broader question is, look, this is important to millions of people. not just women. and the democratic party, and also the democratic party. there's a question of what does it mean of this happens? this is a reversal of a fundamental right. it doesn't mean politically. as someone who works in the space, how are you thinking of a? >> i think that's exactly right, chris, and i don't think
there's one particular runoff is gonna tell us because of course what's happening now is people who live in states where abortion rights of always been secure or no deal but realizing that all it takes is a republican governor interval can mom unaided legislature any goes well over. pennsylvania's of a state to look at where they are now nominated a republican nominee who is for ending all abortion access in the state of pennsylvania. and this is where you look at independent voters and people who aren't motivated to go vote this november because of this issue. and i think those are the battleground states. suddenly, the thaw that your state will become a state where abortion is not available is beginning to sink and on voters. >> yeah, there's reporting about democratic party group
spending 6 million low is. ha as seems to me this is as real is a gets. there will be a full abortion ban below us in pennsylvania. really they resigns into law or vetoed by democratic governor. those are the stakes this fall, right away i. >> exactly, chris, it's not theoretical. the moccasin sanitize voters. young people, women, and the candidacy will do just that. as we get it very clear that the republican rhetoric around the regime and on the question anymore. if so they velocity a. so, i think there's gonna be a lot more to happen in the next month as aversion meng's pass.
>> we saw one in oklahoma. the bands that are popular, are some of the most aggressive, more aggressive than anything pre role. cecilia, thanks for joining. that is all in on this monday night, the rachel maddow show starts now, >> good evening rachel. evening, chris. thanks my friend. much appreciated. and thanks to at home for joining us this hour. the consequential primaries of course happening tomorrow in georgia, and then a handful of other states. we're gonna be talking about those primary elections tomorrow over the course of this hour. there is a number of those primaries tomorrow in which there is a lot of suspense about the outcome, the polling's close, nobody knows how it's gonna turn out. i will tell you, though, also, there is one race tomorrow, a high profile weighs about almost no suspense, it's quite clear exactly how it's gonna turn out and who's gonna win. but even so, that one, to my line, is