tv All In With Chris Hayes MSNBC May 24, 2022 12:00am-1:00am PDT
complete and total disaster. >> as republicans prepared to go to the polls in georgia, it's trump versus pence. the former president, backing one candidate for governor, the former vice president backing another. tonight, the future of democracy in georgia is on the ballot. and why for trump, it's personal. >> i just want to find 11,780 votes. >> the impact of the threat to abortion, as texans head to the polls. and news tonight the january six committee will only hold six public hearings next month. i'll ask committee member, jamie raskin, about that. all in starts right now. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> good evening from new york. i'm chris hayes. we are just 11 hours away from polls opening in tomorrow's crucial primary electorate in georgia. and the two marquee races that
republican primaries for governor, and for secretary of state. two trump backed candidates are essentially running single issue campaigns, on the ex president's big lie of a stolen election. you've got former senator david perdue, close trump ally, who lost his senate seat last year. he's challenging the incumbent republican governor, brian kemp. and you've got far-right congressman jody hice, who's hoping to oust the current incoming secretary of state, brad raffensperger. these races are notable, not only as a referendum on trump's attempt to do, but also to set the groundwork for the next one. because out of all of trump's attempts to overturn the will of the voters and steal the election, what is the state of georgia, where he put his most effort? part of that of course has to do with how humiliated trump appears to have felt by his defeat over there, not only because the election was widely seen as repudiation to him and
his movement, and it has been years since a democrat won it. but also, because he thought georgia was a red republican controlled state, and in trump 's mind state republicans were supposed to help deliver his win. it all started almost immediately after nbc news declared biden the winner, the apparent winner of georgia. it was on november 13th, 2020, and trump's meltdown began in full. he immediately started making baseless claims of widespread fraud in the state, which he says undermines his loss. on november 19th, the day before georgia officially certified the election, trump's chief of staff, mark meadows, actually reached out to secretary of state, raffensperger, presumably to get him to delay that certification. texting him, quote, mister secretary, mark meadow is here. if you could give me a brief call at your convenience, thank you. it's funny, he doesn't ask in text. maybe he sort of knows. as far as we know,
raffensperger didn't return the call. and the next day, georgia certified biden's victory as expected. trump later went on fox news to publicly land bask governor kemp, for not playing along with trump scheme, to steal the election. >> they had judges making deals, and they had electoral officials making deals, like this character in georgia, who's a disaster. and the governor has done nothing, he's done absolutely nothing. i'm ashamed that i endorsed him. >> now, a few days later, trump actually called kemp personally, to pressure him into calling a special legislative special, where state republicans in the state legislature could throw out biden's victory, and instead, appoint a slate approach from election, which you might remember was also the basis of trump lawyer john eastman's coup plot. during this time, kept made an effort to publicly defend himself, mostly honestly, but just throwing the republican secretary of state, raffensperger, out of the bus. get this, here's a statement. he releases it back then, reading in part, quote, georgia
law prohibits the governor from interfering in elections. the secretary of state, who is an elected constitutional officer, has oversight over the elections that cannot be overridden by executive order. of course, we already know that trump was targeting raffensperger as well. on december 5th, the same day that he called camp, mark meadows tried to get through to the georgia secretary of state, again. meadows texting him, quote, mister secretary, can you call the white house switchboard for a call, your voice mail is full. the white house put raffensperger, who was clearly backing their calls in the back burner, because he didn't have a new strategy. the same with trump made those calls, his lawyer, rudy giuliani, went in person, down to georgia, pushing baseless claims of voter fraud, surrounding a nonpartisan election worker named freemen, who became the target of these
slew of intense false right-wing conspiracies, which inaccurately claimed, she was ample evidence to conclude that this election was a sham. >> again all that completely bogus, right? there was nothing that freeman did that was wrong. they caught her on some tape, and made some huge deal about her, she wasn't, okay? they counted the ballots, they counted them again, ruby freeman story does not and there. giuliani's claims, mostly left out at the state. is legal challenges the election went towards. trump again working on it another scheme, again, all georgia focused, right? on december 28th, few weeks after those hearings, but then acting chief of the department of justice's civil division, remember jeffrey clark, he's plotting to have trump installed him as the acting attorney general, so that once in power, he can release a memo, using the official letter had,
and applied legitimacy of the doj, to say that we're election regularity's in georgia, as well as a number of other states, and you authorized a legislature to call itself into session for, to throw biden's victory. had that plan succeeded, it would have cost a full blown constitutional crisis. i mean, it's really hard to overstate the damage that would be done to our democracy, for the attorney general, department of justice, to falsely claim there was election fraud, and say, hey, georgia you should know. you guys should call special election, because we just can't say what happened. calling for legislators to go rogue and overturn the election. now, thankfully, the folks, the highest level of the department of justice, understood this. and they threatened mass resignations, trump backed down. but that was another failed
plan. the clock was ticking. trump was running out of time. so, by now, this january, and he finally made it through the georgia secretary of state, brad raffensperger, for that missed call, when he told raffensperger to find the votes. and ruby freeman, dozen times. >> so, look, all i want to do is this. i just want to find 11,780 votes which is one more than we have because we won the state. >> 18,000 voters having to do with ruby freeman. she's a vote scammer, a professional vote scammer, hustler boot ruby freeman. >> she's not those things just to defend ruby freeman was being slimmed. now, discredit, raffensperger stood his ground, which is why he now faces the primary challenge tomorrow. because trump ally jody hice, who's running against raffensperger, sure seems like he would have found the votes trump needed. that's that implied rationale for his entire candidacy. but since that plan failed as well, on january 4th, just two days before the election was certified in congress, a woman,
later identified as a publicist linked to the rapper, kanye west, showed up at election worker, ruby freeman's house. now, keep in mind, ruby freeman has people outside of her house. she is being buried it on the internet right? this person knocks on her, and that she's representing power people, and then threatening they would come after freeman, if she did not admit to stealing the election from biden in the next 48 hours. >> we would like to let you know first and foremost, we have -- over the next 48 hours in which to move you. [inaudible] i cannot say what specifically will take place. i just know that it will disrupt your freedom and [inaudible] -- the freedom of one or more of your family members. you are a loose and for a party that needs to tidy up. >> you are a loose and for a
party that needs to tidy up. now again ruby freeman didn't gave, right? she didn't find a false confession. she showed an incredible amount of courage there, under truly bizarre circumstances, under pressure from this person, who's representing herself as a emissary for the powerful, right? ruby freeman stands her ground. and another attempt by trump's allies to steal georgia failed. we're not done yet. because that same day, january 4th, u.s. attorney for georgia, b. j. pak, resigned. now, that was weird, we all kind of noted it. like, that's strange. it doesn't usually happen. he later said he quit before he can be fired by trump's forte, you guessed it, refusing to support trump's claims of election fraud. it was a multi-pronged, systematic effort over weeks, and weeks, and weeks, trump
tried every link in the chain, to see what will break, so that he can overturn the results in the free and fair election. none of them worked, which is why he ultimately walked up the violent frenzy, where he tried to overturn the election by force. okay. next time, he's hoping he doesn't have to, right? because he his conception was, if i have my people in georgia, they will deliver the state for me. that didn't happen. but what he wants is that if he doesn't win outright next time, he wants to claim that it was stolen the next time. and so, the first step for him is personnel, right? it's replacing politicians like governor brian kemp, and secretary of state brad raffensperger, who are political allies, republicans, who simply didn't go along with a plan. and on the eve of the primary election tomorrow, where this is the key thing that trump is focused on, kemp looks safe for now. raffensperger, secretary of state, the man who once the election, we don't know. that could be a real race. amy gardner is a national political reporter. she's been covering elections,
including the run for georgia primary tomorrow. ian bassin executive director of protective mockery, cnn profit election. he also serves as associate white house counsel to president barack obama, and they both join me now. >> amy, i wanna start with you. there's been so much focus on the kemp race, understandably. high profile, you know, you've got vice president, former vice president pence pence today, stumping for kemp. there's been way less attention, to me in some ways it's a more significant rate, which is secretary of state race, precisely because in the gubernatorial race, you know, there is a whole bunch of policy issues at play, right? and the secretary of state race, like it's pretty clear that trump once highest brad raffensperger because he didn't steal the election. what the race look like from the perspective of a republican primary voters?
what is the texture of that race as someone who's covered it? >> so, i agree with you that it's a more interesting race right now, because it does look like kemp is in very good shape, going into tomorrow's primary. whereas raffensperger and jody hice our according to the most recent boris neck and neck. and you know, that's actually remarkable given what we all thought a year ago, which was that he was sort of a dead man walking with a republican electorate, after having defied president trump. but, you know having spent a week in georgia, a couple of weeks ago, interviewing voters and others, i really came away thinking that even people who support trump, and would vote for him again, if he was on the ballot in 2024, are tired of the 2020 election grievance narrative. and want to move on and i think that both brad raffensperger
and brian kemp have capitalize on that fact by focusing on you know their conservative credentials. by not necessarily shining the way for, from their decision to defy president trump. both of them had a role in certifying the election in 2020. but, by kind of skipping past it, and also embracing the sort of election integrity that has become a necessary element in many states for running for office as a republican. and i think we've seen that in both of these races, and i think that brad raffensperger, for instance, his top campaign issue this year has been making sure that non-citizens don't vote in georgia, even though there's eventually small number of these cases in any event. but that's the kind of thing he's seen him do to navigate this. and, what i understand from talking to voters has made this as a close race and is it is, it is not that republican voters don't believe that there was something fishy about the 2020 elections, despite the lack of evidence. it's that they're ready to move on, and they want to hear about what folks are proposing, gas prices, inflation, you know, recovering from covid, and all of the other issues that americans are facing right now.
>> ian, i wonder, you know, your group has been very nonpartisan, and has really worked, i think to sort of strengthen and cultivate their relationships with people across the political spectrum who do stand for maintaining the fundamentals of american representative government. how do you view these primaries, the secretary of state primary, particularly tomorrow? there's gonna be another secretary of state primary in arizona, we've got the similar sort of issues, but dog must rihanna candidacy in pennsylvania. you've got people that, are just sort of effectively, and explicitly pro coup, or pro big lie on the ballot. >> yeah, i mean, we've always known that trump was symptom not cause of a problem that is in our democracy. more people are and satisfied with the weights of democracy.
sometimes, it is the worst form of government except for all the others. he doesn't deliver what people wanted all the time. but that is led to trump unleashing a movement, really, trump has met a straw size trumpism into the country. you have candidates running in the office who don't just have a different policy, they have a different reality. let's recall that none other than the one america news network, right, trump's favorite network, reported last week that there was no widespread voter fraud in georgia, 2020. and you still have these candidates running for offices that are in the elections, based on totally false reality. as former senator waning him famously said, you're entitled to your opinions. you're not entitled to other facts. but democracy requires a set of facts, and so, one thing i think, if you're watching this at home and you care about a set of shared facts, you care about reality if you're not engaged yet in making sure that those people will oversee our elections, those who are committed to our constitutional representative democratic form
of government, get engaged. i'll just name two places you can do that. run for something is recruiting for people to run for election officers who are committed to our democratic system and the rule of law. and the states dot org is another place we can get some of these and this is to make sure people get involved to preserve the democracy of the american people. >> a lot of what we saw sort of the up and down the chain, right? it's volunteers. it's folks who are doing it for no money, or glory, they're just doing it this much-needed function all kinds of wild slander or in the case of ruby freedom freeman. in terms of how the republican establishment of georgia has negotiated this, amy, you mention a polling where it has not connect with raffensperger. but i noted this in your reporting for the washington post that hice is not running ads directly goes days at time without campaigning, which is giving raffensperger the
opportunity to define the four term congressman in a seven figure ad campaign airing across the state, in which is to be a sleepy down-ballot position. how have the sort of response of the public in politics position themselves with respect to this race? >> i think that one really important point for folks to consider as there was as they watch what happens in georgia tonight, is the main recognition and a lot of money. and, in kemp's case, the backing of the republican governors associations, as they reported this morning, a huge effort to push back on the trump vengeance tour as christy called it. and, that is a lot of power. and, while it does provide a blueprint for republicans around the country who are potentially targets in his grievance tour, it is not necessarily a working strategy for the hundreds, literally
hundreds of offices that are up this year around the country. one it's not an incumbent. when you don't have name recognition. when you don't have the ability to raise. money and i, i think of a very open question right now as we are roughly halfway through the primary season is, what will the ultimate what -- will the sort of final outcome be? and i suspect it's going to be that trump grievance narrative prevails more often than it does. >> yes, that's well said, and we're gonna look to arizona, where, we are going to see that secretary in the state rests. and we've already got a nominee in pennsylvania who was at the capitol on january six. amy gardner, and, instinct you both. >> so, as amy was just saying, it does look right now that donald trump's handpicked candidates from georgia won't be making a victory speech. who knows, 30-point deficit, still hard to come out of. that blog alone will be pretty embarrassing for founder president. so it probably doesn't help that, mike pence, is in georgia tonight campaigning for
this is great to be back in georgia with so many patriots paving the way for historic republican victory, six months from now will win back the house, when darkness on a, and realize governor brian kemp for four more years in the state house. >> doesn't always unlucky is going a politician cadence bit?
mike pence, who is down in georgia, stumping for the incumbent republican governor, brian kemp. any other situation, this would be on remarkable. except, mike pence's old boss donald trump is backing the challenger, former senator david perdue. the thing is, governor kemp is essential to a maga republican on every issue except one. he did not given to trump when he put intense pressure on him to steal the 2020 election. that's why trump endorsed david perdue in an, al flee giant conspiracy. but with him trailing in the polls, trump could not be bothered to go to georgia for a last-minute push. instead, he held a teller rally with, purdue, a little while ago called it to hear from a disgraceful former president. and since it looks pretty unlikely trump is going to win, trump needed to pat's endorsed mint. so, this, weekend get, this he
backed three incumbent republicans from georgia. buddy carter, rick allen, and barry loudermilk. loudermilk notably asked to appear before the january six in regards to a tour he claims he lead in the day before the capital january 6th. none of the three men are facing a primary challenger, and all are in safe republican districts. sometimes you just need in easy win. tim miller served as communications director for jeff bush's 2016 presidential campaign. he's now a writer. he joins me now. tim, i cracked up when i saw that, you know, trump clearly watching the win loss record. let's just indoors a primary republican who are uncontested so we could just get some w's on the board. >> you know, sometimes you have to take an easy one when you can get, it just jump in front of the parade and declare yourself the marshall. >> so, the pence dynamic areas interesting. because, again, i have no illusions, and i think it's
fairly consistent that marcus is the dominant force in the republic. it is what republican politics is. the personal repeal of politics is a little bit diminished. and i wonder, your lead on, or maybe, not -- what do you think? >> i guess, as little bit diminished as maybe for the all-time high when he was doing the same numbers as the gop. i think that if you look at his landslide victory in 2016, when i was working through the percentages that he was getting through the states back then, you know, his numbers and head to head races are above those numbers easily in 2016 over the other competitors. so, i think it's a little bit diminished. we had a list, the podcast, called the focus group, we listened to actual primary voters. and this reviewed the georgia race, obviously. and there is not a lot of evidence when you listen to any
of these voters of republican that they don't like trump. there is sometimes other things that they consider. like, any other voters. some of them either want to move on, some of them like them. and, excuse, me brian kemp example, he's an actual governor of an actual. drop >> right. >> brian kemp is that he did not do the probe it. he was very similar to ron desantis without the fanfare butted. they like that he put in the voting, into the so-called integrity bill to respond in 2020 that triggered, the left. and caused major league baseball to leave the state. they liked, you know, the fetal abortion bill that he signed the stare. so, this is different, marjorie taylor greene, did the job which was just a tweet. they like the actual job that he. did, so i think that that is really the story. this particular race. and it's less about trump himself. >> yes, i agree with the constituent. can i also think that he just
picked a fight that was a hard one for him to win. and to what amy gardner was saying in the last block, i think that in different races, there have been seats with lower name recognition. there's much more danger. i just think that, again, this is a sort of intuitive thing. or just a sort of punch feeling. but, a little bit like, you know, a tv show for season one. and then you just, for whatever reason, you just don't want to season two or season three. there just seems to be a little bit of, a kind of stillness. it's not like there's some there's big revulsion around trump. or it's terrible that he brought america democracy to his knees. which is what i would like to see. i would just think that there's a little bit of winning this, generally, because of the lack of novelty, because the fact that everyone increasingly sounds like him, etc. >> sure, sometimes you get back on board for season five. with the, you might get a little bored with the brothers. but then you get interested. again look, i mean, here's the thing with trump, i agree with you. he is not at the height of his
powers. when you listen to these focus groups, you talk to republican borders, they're certainly ones that say i like him, i like some of the policies, i'm ready to move forward. here's the thing, though, there is nobody in any of these primaries, in any races, that want to meaningfully move on from him who is successful that ohio senate race was the one. this show, talking about, that look, even in the camper race, here is kemp today. during a press conference, i had a great relationship with president, trump i never said anything bad about, him i don't plan on doing. so i am not mad at him. you know, so, this is the guy that's supposed to be moving on? he's begging trump not to get rid of. and so, that's the, think there's a little bit of weighing in his popularity. but he saw a lot going from. >> yeah, i think that's a great point, no one will defy him and end up being more meaningful in terms of the policy and in terms of the direction of american democracy than anything else. tim miller, thank you very much. coming up with mike pence is split with donald trump extent,
donald trump lawyer and major mclachlin potent scene earlier in the show, rudy giuliani. he reportedly met with the committee for nine hours on friday. and now, as the committee is moving to a new phase of the investigation, the long awaited public hearings, who we learned about all they have been covered. the guardian got its hands on the draft hearing schedule will, which shows six hearing scheduled for the month of june, only two during primetime hours. congressman jamie raskin of maryland. he served on the general six committee, and is the lead impeachment manager in the second impeachment trial of donald trump, for inciting the insurrection. and he joins me now. congressman raskin, my sense is that you can't comment on this sort of stuff, but i'll ask anyway, is the leaked schedule correct? >> hey, chris. well, i'll just say in general, a lot of the leaks, not all of, it has been correct. we are very eager to get going with these hearings. you should know that the hearings are gonna be about the events of january 6th, and the
causes thereof, but the whole question of recommendations for policy changes, to fortify ourselves and our institutions against future attacks will come later. so i think they'll be the opportunity for us to have hearings on other aspects on the charge under house resolution 503, after this hearings. >> i saw the news about rudy giuliani, and again, i don't know what you can or cannot confirm. but it is striking to me in some ways, when, as we near the end of this, the number of people close to the president, they did end up cooperating with either invitations or subpoenas from the committee. >> well, everybody's got a
legal duty. and a civic duty to be there. and we have made ourselves perfectly clear that we will hold people in contempt, to try to get contempt prosecutions brought against them for violating their legal obligations here. rudy giuliani, i should tell you, it's not much news. you know, hayes, he's no michael tiger. he's no bruce cover, as other lawyers go. but he definitely has a lot of information about with what's taking place, during those days, and you know, i'm hopeful that he is going to tell, or telling us everything that he knows. >> the only thing in the world, basically, down like generally an expert on, is basically primetime political news programming. so -- i have an interest in the hearings in that, and the sort of professional capacity, obviously.
but i do wonder like, how you are thinking about them, because people will talk about the watergate hearings, and i think i would say in response is, look, back in the watergate hearings, it was like 50 million people watching the tonight show every night. it was just a different universe. that's true, i, think even the benghazi hearings, you know, five or six years ago. like, it's a different universe right now, in terms of how central to the attention television, exchanges between legislatures and witnesses, or moments of real epiphany and conceptual breakthrough or moral breakthrough, those will get replayed all over the internet, all over all of the channels, and so on. so it's not as if you need to be watching every moment, in order to see everything that's gonna happen. it's also the case that we can put out, more material, even then we're going to produce for the hearings themselves, and
make it available to people. and those people who are real students of the insurrection and coups in the 24 century america could study all of that. yeah, the thing about prime time that you can perhaps explain to me, chris, is how and that works decide when they are willing to give up their regular we schedule programming, and when not. and i think, i assume that's in part of the negotiation between our communications people and the networks. >> yeah i think that's an interesting point. do you think, do you imagine in your head a set of people who are persuadable about the gravity of this, who are as yet to be persuaded, but can be persuaded by the public portion of these hearings? >> absolutely. and the reason i know that is because i have heard, certainly from hundreds, and perhaps thousands of people, who wrote to me after the second impeachment trial, to say they were either independents, or they were republicans, or they were teachers, they were professional professors. they were really watching to see what was happening, and they found that the evidence of donald trump's guilt was overwhelming, that we had refuted any and all of the frivolous legal and factual arguments that have been attempted by trump's lawyers. and so, i know that tons of people who were in movement then, and i think there are even many more people movement now, as we see, you know, what was an insurrection attempted coup, the took place in the january of last year. and it continues to be an attempt to delegitimized our constitutional order, and our elections. and there are people, like the republican nominee for governor
in pennsylvania today, who participated in these events. i think that mastriano rented three buses to take people down to washington for the stop the steal event. who are now being promoted up the ranks of the gop. so, the situation is far more dire than it even once then, as donald trump's continued to double down on the big lies, and the polemic's, and the disinformation. and his party continues to go with them and to roll with these theories. >> congressman jamie raskin, who sits on the committee that will be shifting into public hearings very soon. thank you very much. appreciate it. >> thanks for having me, chris. >> still ahead, the primary race in texas, where abortion rights loom large. as the only remaining antiabortion democrat, in the entire house caucus, faces a runoff primary challenge. and it continues to be an attempt to delegitimized our constitutional order, and our elections. and there are people, like the republican nominee for governor in pennsylvania today, who participated in these events. i think that mastriano rented three buses to take people down to washington for the stop the steal event. who are now being promoted up
the ranks of the gop. so, the situation is far more dire than it even once then, as donald trump's continued to double down on the big lies, and the polemic's, and the disinformation. and his party continues to go with them and to roll with these theories. >> congressman jamie raskin, who sits on the committee that will be shifting into public hearings very soon. thank you very much. appreciate it. >> thanks for having me, chris. >> still ahead, the primary race in texas, where abortion rights loom large. as the only remaining antiabortion democrat, in the entire house caucus, faces a runoff primary challenge. that's coming up.
admiral's in the story about the tragedy in new york city, a 48 year old man was shot and killed on a subway train and what appears to be a totally unprovoked attack. the suspect remains a large doctor you flood when the train pulled into a lower manhattan station. it was a brutal, horrifying crime. and lying of the spike in gun violence, the story made headlines across the country. there's another terrible tragedy here in new york that is now received this much coverage. on saturday, 32-year-old david white men died after completing the brooklyn half marathon. police seek left shortly before
9 am on to finishing the race. he was transported to the hospital oreos finals that. we don't yet know the cause of this death. the medical examiner still examining it, we know the fire department is 16 other winners to the hospital, and then the race took place and mid concerns and warnings about unseasonably warm weather. york roadrunners, organizers, urged participants to prepare for the forecast and heat. running to the national weather service, temperatures when the low 60s in the beginning, but the humidity was above 95%. and by the afternoon, new york city saw a near record high temperature for this time of year, reaching 90 degrees in central park. extreme heat, combined with the humidity, it is brutal on the human body. and it's getting harder all this time around the world. a look at what's been happening is not a genre, which also hasn't gone out enough coverage. this march was not as much in india since the country began keeping records more than a
century ago. pakistan had its hottest april since records began. in some areas, temperatures have soared back 120 degrees. and that affects our wide-ranging unlawful. at least 90 people died from the heat across india and pakistan. but also, a melting glacier in the mountains triggered flash flooding, destroying houses down from london, and causing this bridge in pakistan to collapse. increase the mandatory officers on the power grid is causing widespread power cuts. from the heat squished india swede crop, leaving the country, there was a second read produced eric, to ban exports at a time when the war in ukraine have increased concerns about wheat shortages. of course, extreme he is precisely what climate change looks like. so what it is, it's here now. and you study from the british meteorological service says, quote, human influence has increased the likelihood of extreme temperatures and the region benefactor of 100. that means a record heat event that would occur approximately every 30 years now occur spot every three years. having now live through two years ago that we found the back, we've all seen of the difference and as attention for the kinds of diffuse have encouraged by infectious disease and the gruesome spectacle of a mass murder shooting like what i'm buffalo
last week. the common crisis will produce its fair share of slightly close, but the damage will be more like the slow-moving tragedy of covid. they'll be more frequent and severe heat waves, and dot will follow, and this is an urgent crisis as a very real threat posed by gun violence. and as a society, we must figure out how to focus our attention on that. close, but the damage will be more like the slow-moving tragedy of covid. they'll be more frequent and severe heat waves, and dot will follow, and this is an urgent crisis as a very real threat posed by gun violence. and as a society, we must figure out how to focus our attention on that. attention on that.
those around this time, earlier this hour, 21 days ago, where we got the lead draft supreme court opinion which would overturn roe v. wade. tomorrow, we will get our as we look at how that bombshell has reverberated, and how it might play in the midterm elections. the lone antiabortion i-70 crafts, henry clay of texas, it's bending his seat against immigration attorney jessica. but it's been pouring into this campaign a sensor started, a purse of 1 million dollars. according to the latest fec filings, she weighs 3. 5 to 4. 5. following the leak draft opinion, cisneros raised three times like we are polled and, nearly $400,000. it seal richards is a former
presidents of planned parenthood's. born and raised texan if she joins me. now. so co, or in a strange period between the lead of that opinion, and when it might come up. we don't know if that's gonna be the final ruling are not. but it is very much focused, i think i want to girls about abortion. even those who don't think about a lot. how do you view this race tomorrow night where you have the last to republican -- the last democrat opposed abortion rights facing a primary challenge was pro-choice? >> jessica's been a fantastic candidates and she is generated enormous enthusiasm because of her support for women's rights and workers rights. you have to remember, this is a district that was withdrawn by republicans. and we go out was repay secretary of state. managed to draw those district, it's heavily under the new law rail. whereas whether is the sheriff. he had that big advantage, but i think she's running a strong race, and we will see. >> it's gonna be an interesting test case. is the first time the obvious on the ballot since this happened. on the broader question is,
look, this is important to millions of people. not just women. and the democratic party, and also the democratic party. there's a question of what does it mean of this happens? this is a reversal of a fundamental right. it doesn't mean politically. as someone who works in the space, how are you thinking of a? >> i think that's exactly right, chris, and i don't think there's one particular runoff is gonna tell us because of course what's happening now is people who live in states where abortion rights of always been secure or no deal but realizing that all it takes is a republican governor interval can mom unaided legislature any goes well over. pennsylvania's of a state to look at where they are now nominated a republican nominee who is for ending all abortion access in the state of pennsylvania. and this is where you look at independent voters and people who aren't motivated to go vote this november because of this issue. and i think those are the battleground states. suddenly, the thaw that your state will become a state where abortion is not available is beginning to sink and on voters. >> yeah, there's reporting about democratic party group spending 6 million low is. ha as seems to me this is as real is a gets. there will be a full abortion ban below us in pennsylvania. really they resigns into law or vetoed by democratic governor. those are the stakes this fall, right away i.
>> exactly, chris, it's not theoretical. the moccasin sanitize voters. young people, women, and the candidacy will do just that. as we get it very clear that the republican rhetoric around the regime and on the question anymore. abortion rights of always been secure or no deal but realizing that all it takes is a republican governor interval can mom unaided legislature any goes well over. pennsylvania's of a state to look at where they are now nominated a republican nominee who is for ending all abortion access in the state of pennsylvania. and this is where you look at independent voters and people who aren't motivated to go vote this november because of this issue. and i think those are the battleground states. suddenly, the thaw that your state will become a state where abortion is not available is beginning to sink and on voters. >> yeah, there's reporting about democratic party group spending 6 million low is. ha as seems to me this is as real is a gets. there will be a full abortion ban below us in pennsylvania. really they resigns into law or vetoed by democratic governor. those are the stakes this fall, right away i. >> exactly, chris, it's not theoretical. the moccasin sanitize voters. young people, women, and the candidacy will do just that.
as we get it very clear that the republican rhetoric around the regime and on the question anymore. if so they velocity a. so, i think there's gonna be a lot more to happen in the next month as aversion meng's pass. >> we saw one in oklahoma. the bands that are popular, are some of the most aggressive, more aggressive than anything pre role. cecilia, thanks for joining. that is all in on this monday night, the rachel maddow show starts now, evening rachel. , right away i. >> exactly, chris, it's not theoretical. the moccasin sanitize voters. young people, women, and the candidacy will do just that. as we get it very clear that the republican rhetoric around the regime and on the question anymore. if so they velocity a. so, i think there's gonna be a lot more to happen in the next month as aversion meng's pass. >> we saw one in oklahoma. the bands that are popular, are some of the most aggressive, more aggressive than anything pre role. cecilia, thanks for joining. that is all in on this monday night, the rachel maddow show
to win, but even so, that one, to my eyes, to my mind, is actually the most astonishing of all of the races in awful states that are holding elections tomorrow. it is basically a shoonz for this i guy and that is amazing. so we got that story, and that coverage coming up this hour. and we have some expert help this hour as well on the potential impact, the potential consequencesth of a very unexpected high profile resignation from a russian diplomat today. not only resigned from the russian government, he put them on blast over putin's invasion of ukraine, and putin's corruption and whatai putin has done to russia, and one of the consequences of that in