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nothing. shooting after shooting. what are we doing? why are we here? me too. where we hear? what are we doing? >> sadly after correct the senator. when he said 14 children, hey guys saw 14, it's actually my children that died guys. 19 children actually died. i can't change the gun laws tomorrow, but i do know one way to combat hate. we're gonna wake up tomorrow, i will get a lot of more. i'm gonna care more. let's care more guys so children don't die anymore.
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don't die thank you for joining us this hour. i'm a myth muddiness. 1 am on the east coast, midnight in uvalde, texas, where a mass shooting at an elementary school has left 19 children and two teachers dead, as well as a shooter. several more people are injured. that makes it the deadliest school shootings since the attack on sandy hook elementary school in connecticut, a decade ago, were 20 -- we are the only nation in the world that has so many school shootings, that we have to rank them by body count over years and decades. let that sink in. like today shooting, the sandy hook massacre in 2012 happened at a elementary school, and in the aftermath, there was such collective national horror what had happened, that it really
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seemed, for a moment, like something might change. that we might actually do something. we've gotten so used to being -- in this country that it is hard to remember now, but there was this genuine sense that something had finally snapped. with 21st graders dead, it was just too much to bear. the fever who's going to break. republicans were going to have to sign on to some kind of gun reform. the man the president obama put in charge of this effort, his vice president, joe biden. >> i have no illusions about what we're up against, or how hard the task is. i also have never seen the nations conscience so shaken by what happened at sandy hook. the world has changed. it's demanding action. in this context, the president
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didn't ask me -- a set of recommendations on how we should proceed to meet that moral obligation we have. >> joe biden really threw himself into it. barely a month after the sandy hook shooting, his task force had held over 20 meetings, it had heard from over 200 organizations. it had talked a gun control advocates as well as gun control opponents. he came back with the set of reasonable bipartisan proposals that might have prevented another sandy hook. the truth is, it wasn't enough. republicans and congress actually refused to do anything. not one thing. nothing. in his last year in office, president obama's still got emotional talking about it. >> second amendment rights are important. there are other rights that we care about as well. we have to be able to balance them. our unalienable --
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pursuit of happiness, those rights were stripped from college kids in santa barbara. from highschoolers at columbine. and from first graders in newtown. first graders. from every family, who never imagine that their loved one would be taken from our lives by a bullet from a gun, -- ,. >> in ten years, after sandy
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hook, joe biden is now president biden. tonight, he had to address the american people about another horror, another elementary school shooting in this country. horror, >> i had hoped when i be president that i would not have to do this again. another massacre. you've already, texas. an elementary school. beautiful, innocent second, third, fourth graders. how many scores a little children, who witnessed what happened, see their friends die, as if they're on a battlefield, for god sake. the live with them for the rest
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of their lives. there's a lot we don't know yet. there's a lot we do know. the parents who will never see their child again, never have them jump in bed and cuddle with them, parents who will never be the same. to lose a child's like having a piece of your soul ripped away. there's a hollowness in your chest, you feel like you're being sucked into it and never able to get out. suffocating. it's never quite the same. these kinds of mass shootings rarely happen anywhere else in the world. why? they have mental health problems.
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they have domestic news disputes in other countries. they have people who are lost, but these kinds of mass shootings never happen, with the kind of frequency that they happen in america. why? why are we willing to live with this carnage? why do we keep letting this happen? where in god's name is our backbone? to have the courage to stand up to the lobbyists. >> president joe biden, speaking tonight from the white house. here's what we know at this hour, the shooting took place last -- at robb elementary school in uvalde, texas. 80 miles west of san antonio. as i mentioned, 19 children, two teachers are confirmed dead, as of this hour, as well as a shooter. several other people, including children, were injured. some of them remain hospitalized. the shooter has been identified as an 18 year old man from uvalde. officials say he acted alone.
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nbc news's morgan chesky spoke with the -- public safety official, who explained how the shooting began. >> it was a domestic disturbance between the suspect and his grandmother, where he shot the grandmother. the grandmother is in critical condition, she is alive. at that point, local law enforcement received a call of a crashed vehicle, and an armed gunman nearby, close proximity to a school. that at that point, he made an entrance to the school and completely disregarded human life. an evil person, started shooting kids, anybody that was in his way, teachers. he had no regard for human life. >> just walking to the school, opening fire? >> we knew he was armed with a long rifle. >> the shooter was also wearing some kind of body armor, went to local law enforcement officers arrived into the school. they engage the shooter but
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were unable to stop him. in fact, they were injure themselves. it took the arrival of a swat team to enter the school and shoot and kill the gunman. in addition to the two police officers injured, one customs and border protection agent who also shot and wounded. after responding tourist cut for help from local law enforcement. the borough -- says that the agent was hit by fire from the gunman, who had barricaded himself inside the school. it seems worth noting that this is the second mass shooting in the span of ten days, in which an armed officer was unable to stop the shooter because he was too well armed. when a gunman to ended the tops market in buffalo ten days ago, an armed security guard shot him but his body got armor, the shooter's body armor, protected him. the gunman then shot and killed a security guard, as well as not another people. tonight, it's eovaldi, texas that's reeling from the nation 's latest mass shooting. we're starting to learn the identity of some of these
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victims. eva morale this was a fourth grade teacher at robin elementary. her and says she was shot and killed while trying to protect your students. miss morales was in her early 40s, and leaves behind a spouse and a child of her own. fourth grader, you zion garcia. he was killed according to his aunt, as well, -- with this dallas affiliate. he would've turned ten this summer. joining me now on the phone from eovaldi, texas -- he's investigative reporter with the -- tony, thank you so much for joining us tonight. i know it's been an incredibly long and difficult day for everyone there. can you bring us up to speed on the investigation? what is it focusing on at this hour? inve>> one of the main things tt authorities are truly trying to understand at this hour is what precipitated for violence to begin with. what may have prompted the gunman to open fire at the
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school? what caused the friction between he and his grandmother, causing him to shoot her, before he drove to the elementary school and opened fire, walk to the halls and shooting and killing, as we know, 19 students. >> i know that we have, as we've been talking about, seen the death toll tick upwards in the past few hours. do officials expect that number, of those killed, to increase, as morning dawns? >> certainly, that's always a possibility. when i was told, at the end of the day, they are hopeful that the 19 will, while it's an unbelievably tragic number, they're hopeful that that will be the total of fatalities. you do have to keep in mind, there are a number of -- that number is not fully --
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who went to the hospital and were in critical condition, as the evening ron. again, officials are hopeful that the amount of death will be it for it to this incident. >> tony, before i let you go, has there been any new information on the guns, the weapons that were used? i know that's been the focus of a big part of this investigation. have you been able to learn anything since this incident unfolded? >> again, that's the central part of the investigation. investigators are now saying that they believe he had possibly two weapons, a handgun and rifle. he may have fired hundreds of rounds, in an exchange of gunfire, as they swarmed the area trying to stop him. >> all right, tony,
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investigative reporter with austin american statesman. thank you so much for joining us tonight. too often in america, a killer shoots an offense innocent people to qualify as a mass murder. it can happen as it did today at a school in texas, or like ten days ago, inside a grocery store. here's the bottom line, it happens all the time. churches, supermarkets, schools, concerts, theaters. what comes next is a template were all too familiar with, a period of mourning, followed by speeches from democrats pushing for gun control, social media message from republicans offering lots of thoughts, the last of pursue the families of the victims. but then, it's silence. almost no action. the nation moves on. in 2018, after the tragic shooting that killed 17 people at the douglass high school in parkland, florida, this country, once again, saw hope, brief up.
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the students that survived that attack rally the country in ways we had never seen before. the kids, many of them, too young to vote, or to buy a gun themselves, visited congress. they organized protests, pressed officials on national tv. they literally created a movement, and the moment, the parkland moment. they tried very hard to achieve change in this country. yet again, congress failed them. there is a person that kept on pushing. even today, his name is manual oliver. he's the cofounder of change the -- an organization dedicated to raising awareness about mass shootings and reducing the influence of that are a in gun manufacturers in american politics. it's a tough job, he knows that. but he can't stop. he says, his -- was killed in parkland. joaquin was a great writer. he was an athlete, he loved music. his friends walden -- he was murdered on valentine's
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day. today, amid the all too familiar tragedy that we're seeing, manual has a message. it's up to the ones that lost the kids to do the job. joining us now from parkland, florida, manual oliver. cofounder of change the ref, and father of joaquin oliver. emmanuel, thank you so much for making time to be with us tonight. i can only imagine how difficult of a day this is. it's a painful reminder of the tragedy that your own family and your own community had to live through back in 2018, when your son was killed. can you talk to us a little bit about what you're feeling, how your feeling, and what's going on through your mind? >> it's been a long day. my emotions are mixed. i'm mostly mad. i'm very frustrated. a lack of leadership is what i feel is happening. i am not surprised i.
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don't think anybody surprise after this. they're missing the point. we became used to this situation. i will do tomorrow what i did yesterday. along with my wife, per to, try to prevent this from happening. we have not done enough, after we see these things. i have to convince myself that i have to do a better job. for joaquin, for the 19 kids that lost their lives today and for every single victim. >> i was struck by something that you said earlier, in reaction to the shooting in texas. it's what i just close of that segment with. it's up to the ones that lost the kids to do the job. that seems like an incredibly unfair burden for people to have to deal with, given the fact that you've already lost
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your child in this senseless gun violence. tell me more about what you mean by that, and why you feel it's up to those who have lost the most to save the rest of us. >> i think one way to explain that is that i don't have anything to risk. we paid a very high price to do what we do, patricia and myself, and other parents. we're not afraid. we're not afraid to do the job. we're not afraid to hold accountable anyone, from the white house, all the way to members of congress or local politicians. it is unfair that we go through the loss of a loved one, and still need to make things better for the rest of the nation, but it makes sense. if you think about what i just told you, my advice is that,
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you don't want to have an interview at 1 am and paid the price that we paid to fix things. would you want is to avoid going through the tragedy to understand that you can be part of the solution. >> i gotta ask you about the solution, we always see in these tragedies, the aftermath of these tragedies, a lot of lip service from politicians. if congress is reluctant to act, would exemptions could parents take the push for gun control reforms outside the legislative process, if there is one? >> well, inaction is not the answer. staying in the living room, watching the news tomorrow, that's not the answer. -- >> and we had a huge march, and we made some noise. we thought that our politicians
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would follow those -- it's not our fault. i've been working, just like the white house is doing today, since the last five years, nonstop. if our politicians, regardless of the color of their party, and if they're republicans or democrats, at that point, that's not the main issue. the main issue is that if they don't follow our demands, our solutions, we're not even asking them to write them down, we're giving them the homework already made. they just need to pass these bills. these bills are stopped either in the senate floor or in the congress for. -- they're not willing to solve the problem. how politicians are afraid of the gun industry, or in
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partnership with the gun industry. i don't find any other logic or reason for all of this. >> you bring up a good point about why politicians are not doing this. i look at governor abbott in texas, i look at your own governor in florida, these are two politicians that are against gun control reforms. yeah, unfortunately, some of the bloody shootings in this country have taken place in these two states. what is your message to these two governors? >> they are not against gun control, or regulations. they are advocates for open carry and free permit to anyone, to go ahead and purchase a gun. they've been promoting this and i don't know how governor
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abbott is going to explain what happened after all the times that he had been spending preaching for gun rights, how he's going to level that with the -- parenting -- adults -- in the pursuit of happiness. or desantis, who's promising that before he leaves office, he will make sure that we have an open carry law in florida. so, i like to think that these two guys are in big trouble, after what just happened. i would like to think that the whole nation will start judging in pointing fingers at people like these two individuals, that have no mercy when it comes to evil thoughts and terrible planning.
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i really think that, in my personal opinion, with desantis, this is becoming a personal thing for me. i hate to say it but i never felt that someone could be worse in handling or representing a group pupil. >> all right, manual oliver, cofounder of the gun reform -- father to joaquin oliver. thank you so much for being here. thanks for speaking to us on, what i know, has been a difficult and long day for. you thank, you sir. >> thank you. >> -- of the shooting at the rob elementary school in uvalde, texas, would investigators are doing. we'll try to insert those questions. stay with us. >> i would just say to the people of uvalde, please know
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latest out of uvalde, texas, where a gunman shot and killed at least 19 children into adults at robb elementary school. the shooter, an 18-year-old student at uvalde high school's, also dead. according to sergeant a strada of the texas police department of safety, the shooter shot his grandmother before driving towards elementary, crashing his vehicle outside of the school. at some point, he engaged a law enforcement stationed outside of the school. we should know, with open fire. they did not deter him, he was able to classroom after classroom, killing student after student. authorities recovered ar-15 style rifle, body armor, several magazines at the scene of the crime. tonight, we are learning about the identities of the children in the teachers that were killed. ten-year-old, have your lopez, one of the victims. his family confirmed tonight.
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fourth grader, you see a garcia was also killed, according to his aunt. evil morale is, a fourth grade teacher it rob elementary was also shot and killed, while trying to protect her students. as of today, the school is closed for the year. robb elementary school it's fairly small, it has fewer than 600 -- about 90% of the students are latino. a sign hanging from the school reads both welcome and ben vinnie those. the school sits at a town of only 15,000 residents, and uvalde is about 80 miles west of san antonio, a 90 minute drive from the major urban city. uvalde is even closer to the mexican border, 70 miles away from their. -- democrat from texas, who lives nearby describes you volley as a quote wonderful, tight-knit community. there's also a town where one third of the residents to live at, or barely above the poverty line.
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that's where the fbi in the bureau -- are now investigating this shooting, along with local police. lieutenant chris oliver's of the texas department of safety described the next steps of the investigation to my colleague, morgan chesky. >> our texas changers are the lead investigators right now. they're working with fbi, atf. they want to conduct a thorough investigation, go through every single piece of evidence, -- and try to determine exactly what happened. of course, we want to be aware, we want to know what took place, which rugged this gunman to cause this horrific tragedy here in the small community. >> now, we expect to learn more in the coming days, as these agencies investigate this, but still, a lot of unanswered questions. joining me now -- former member of president obama's task force. mr. alexander, thank you for joining us this evening.
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since the shooter was reportedly shot on sight by law enforcement, we do not have much information about him or his motives. we know he allegedly shot his grandmother before driving to the elementary school. what is your reaction to the reporting that, before this mass shooting, he shot one of his relatives? what do you think was transpiring in his mind and in his motivation? >> well, just taking a moment to speculate about this. it's clear something emotionally and psychologically must be isn't disturbing him, to the point where he killed a family member. it's that, in and of itself, is certainly of concern. after killing his grandmother, he fought goes on a spree at a school, which is very interesting. why a school, and why bad school, or any location that people would be that he would want to do harm?
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we just heard the officers say that this is still an investigation. this is going to be a very interesting case for all of us to learn what initiated this, what's that him off, why did he go to that school and reporting is also indicating that he engaged officers, when he arrived at the campus. he was highly motivated to penetrate that building where he caused the type of death and mayhem that he did. >> i want to ask you about that in just a second. i know there's a number of law enforcement agencies involved in this investigation, the texas department of public safety, atf, doj, local police. how do they all coordinate on a case like this? who takes the lead, how do they all work together? >> in this particular case, it
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could be the local police department there. of course, they're not gonna have the assets and resources that would be available to them, that they can secure from their state law enforcement agencies. and in particular from federal law enforcement. a great deal of evidence will be taken in and collected. you're gonna need as much sophisticated technology is you can gather. you will have some of the smartest people in around law enforcement throughout that state, throughout the country, that will come into that city and provide all the support it can for small police agencies, that, often times, will not have the type of resources that are necessary. al-ata's witness statements, a lot of evidence being collected, i.e., gun casings, a lot of video to be restored and viewed. you're gonna need support from as many outside agencies, that
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have resources, to provide to you as possible. >> speaking of resources, what is your take on how the interaction between law enforcement and the shooter played out? there is some reporting that they tried to engage, women weren't able to subdue him until a tactical team arrived. i suspect, you certainly know better than i do, tactical teams arrive with a very different firearm capabilities. the shooter was wearing kevlar, he reportedly was wearing a rifle, as well as a handgun. talk to me about the disparity and the firepower between what a local officer might have -- as opposed to what a gunman might have. >> --
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3000 feet per second. it will probably fire very rapidly. it's very difficult to go up against that type of weaponry, if you just have a sidearm, which those officers may have had. that's probably all they were equipped with. they had no idea that they were willing to engage someone with a high powered rifle. in addition to that, someone who would've been in kevlar. his engagement put him at a superior place of power, and still, we know he was able to penetrate that building until other officers arrived. i don't know whether they were tactical, swat teams, they got their first and put him down. whatever the case may be, it's very challenging to go up against superior firepower. we saw the same thing in buffalo, where you had the subject there, armed with a high powered weapon, dressed in
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kevlar, was able to take couple rounds from security guard, and still stay in the fight. he ended up killing ten people. he had an advantage, and this is part of the challenge. i think the issues are going to have to be addressed. -- and just merely who wants it. >> cedric alexander, msnbc law enforcement officer -- former member of president obama's task force on 24 satilla entry -- thank you for your insights. greatly appreciate your time. >> thank you. >> texas governor greg abbott will visit uvalde tomorrow, and on friday, he's going to attend an nra forum for -- days after the shooting, believe it or not, next could anything be done to stop the gun lapping in this country? to stop the to stop the gun lapping in this
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written exam. they had to pass a shooting proficiency exam. or at least demonstrate that they have shooting proficiency. abbott's signature eliminated all of that. another one of those laws declared texas a sanctuary state for guns. which basically forbids local agencies from enforcing federal gun laws. perhaps it is fitting that this week, on friday. greg abbott is scheduled to speak at a big nra form in houston. a form on legislative action. other notable speakers on the schedule for that event are donald trump, who is the headliner. senator john cornyn, and senator ted cruz. although tonight, senator cornyn's office told nbc news that he is no longer attending that for him. they say his cancellation, has nothing to do with the shooting. he just has to be in d.c. for personal reasons on rider. as far as we know, a bit on -- are also planning to attend it. and who knows maybe they are going to use the opportunity to advocate for i don't know -- simple common sense gun control
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laws, maybe? i don't know, maybe they will do it directly to the nra itself. but i have to be honest with you, i don't think so. listen to what senator ted cruz had to say this afternoon. >> you know, inevitably, when there is a murder of this kind. you see politicians try to politicize it. you see democrats, and a lot of folks in the media, whose immediate solution is to try to restrict the constitutional rights of law-abiding citizens. that doesn't work, it's not effective, it doesn't prevent crime. we know what it does prevent crime, which is going after felons. and fugitives, and those with serious mental illness. arresting them, prosecuting them, when they try to illegally by firearms. >> here's an idea, senator. texas currently does not require background checks for guns sold or traded at gun shows. so if you want to prevent felons from getting their hands on guns. fixing that sounds like a layup?
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the reality here is that it's incredibly easy to access a gun perfectly legally in texas. that's the truth. the center to prevent gun violence gives texas gun laws an f. literally and f they point out it is so easy to get guns in texas that gangs actually smuggle them across the border into mexico. they buy them in texas, smuggle them into mexico. that's how easy it is to get them in texas. texas state senator, told nbc news tonight, that in a briefing with texas state rangers. rangers said that the shooter purchased two assault rifles on his 18th birthday. legally! the shooter turned 18 last monday. now here we are today, laws matter. joining us now is robbyn thomas, executive director at the law center to prevent gun violence. robin, thank you so much for joining us. i know it has been a long day
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for you and everyone else. prior to today, two of the deadliest mass shootings in the past decade. sutherland springs in 2017, and el paso in 2019. they both unfortunately happened in texas. you had republicans in texas, they are still totally obsessed with making texas as legally pro gun as possible. how do you understand that? how is this still a winning issue for them politically? when their constituents are being killed. and they are trying to make it easier to get guns in their state? >> part of it is exactly what ted cruz was just talking about. which is that for one thing, politicians are in the pocket of the nra under the gun lobby. and special interests. they don't represent the interests of their constituents. they don't act in the interest of public safety. they do what's the lobbyist tell them to do. and part, they get away with it, because they are willing to lie i mean most of whatever cruz just said is simply not true. but because he didn't get called out with the facts. he's able to somehow convince
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people that these laws don't matter. as you so correctly pointed out. of course laws matter, texas's gun death rate is far higher than california. where we have much more comprehensive gun regulation. laws matter very much, but if people don't believe that. if they don't see it, if they aren't given good information. by the people who represent them. then they may not be aware. they buy this ridiculous argument about the good guy with the gun. being the solution, as opposed to smart regulation. every other country in the world has somehow figured out. >> and they point to chicago, and say, you know chicago, illinois, have the toughest gun restriction laws. but the gun violence in a chicago is continually high. and gun violence is skyrocketing. >> and part of the reason for that, is because we have poor state borders. that's why we need federal reform. because all of those illegal guns, that are in fact being found in chicago. the guns found in washington,
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d.c., new york city, they're coming from states. with weak gun laws, and the same way that the gangs in mexico are coming to texas to buy guns. because the laws are so weak. it's the same thing in chicago. these guns are being trafficked from states like indiana. where there are weak laws, and it's very very easy to just bring the guns into the city of chicago. >> i have to ask you, it is a well known, it is well-known excuse me. that before the end of june, the supreme court will decide, not just the future of roe v. wade. but most americans actually don't realize that the court will actually have a major ruling on a gun control case. the court's first major second amendment case, i would say in more than a decade. what's at stake in that case? and how will it impact states ability to impose common sense gun restrictions? since it has to do with in new york? >> so that case involves the restrictions that new york city places on who can carry loaded
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concealed weapons and public. and for people who spent time in new york city. i think it makes a lot of sense, that they wouldn't want a lot of concealed weapons in the streets. of such a crowded, busy, chaotic city. and that law, which had those sort of requirements for what it takes to get a permit to carry a loaded weapon in new york. is what's being challenged. now that that lies struck down, not only will it allow more people to carry loaded weapons in cities like new york. it will also impact the laws in other states that have similar types of requirements and restrictions. like california, new jersey, and a whole slew of other states. so it challenges, we called it a permanent system around concealed weapons. the bigger concern is what i was the court is going to say in that decision. they could keep it pretty narrow. just strike down new york's law, which just means there needs to be a new law put in place that complies with the decision. where they can make broad sweeping statements about what kinds of gun laws are
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permissible. and what standards are applied to be interpretation of gun laws. and that's what we have sort of worried about. we expect it to be not too broad. but it's hard to say with this court, after what we read a few weeks ago. with this roe v. wade decision. >> yeah absolutely, especially with a super conservative majority they have. robin thomas, thank you so much for your time we greatly appreciate your insights. up next, is there anything anything that congress can do to change gun laws in this country. we're going to hear from a senator who's not giving up. senator who's not giving up. it was very hard. kimberly came to clearchoice with a bunch of missing teeth, struggling with pain, with dental disease. clearchoice dental implants solved her dental issues. [ kimberly ] i feel so much better. i feel energized to go outside and play with my daughter. i can ate anything. like, i don't have to worry.
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