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tv   The Cross Connection With Tiffany Cross  MSNBC  May 28, 2022 7:00am-9:00am PDT

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♪ ♪ ♪ >> good morning everyone. welcome to the cross connection. this weekend, america is in mourning. we know this is a time for reflection. there were two mass shootings in ten days. 31 victims total. 19 of them were children i truly recognize how heavy this is for a lot of people, the difficulty of processing this. closing our eyes were tending it did not happen will not make the problem go away. i encourage you to listen to the survivors in this shooting. >> whenever they started shooting i hit behind lights to. the cops said -- >> the cops had help if you need help. they got one of the persons in my class to say help. the guy overheard and came in and shot her. he said, it is time to die. i was hiding hard.
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i was telling my friend to not talk. >> [speaking spanish] >> she cried a lot. according to the cdc, guns are now the leading cause of death among children than adolescents in america. it jumps a 30% between 2019 and 2020. according to the washington post, more than 311,000 students have experienced gun violence at school since columbine, in 1999. of course, republicans are suggesting to keep the schools as virtual prisons to deal with this problem. >> we need serious funding to upgrade our schools. this is to install bulletproof doors and locking classroom doors ultimately. as we all know, what's stops, armed, that guys, is armed good
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guys. >> i hate to break it to cancun crews there but that the armed guys were not much help. the police admit to a stunning string of failures. 19 police officers waited in the hallway for nearly an hour as these children were trapped with a gunman, before even attempting to breach the classroom. why the hesitation? one lieutenant saying that they could have been a shot. so much for protect and serve. we are expecting an update from the police today. meanwhile, the mrna are supporting their new conference, 14 acres from the latest guns and gears. hundreds protested outside the venue. this country has long been ready for when law reform will happen. don't ask them. they are on vacation. texas congressional candidate and brittany packet cunningham,
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host of the under struck data podcast, are joining. the jazz, i want talk with you. we are looking at the nra and their convention that they are holding. this is in your own backyard. as a gun owner, i'm curious to your thoughts. this condition that you have where they are gonna show you 19 total john being murdered and ten field being remembered in buffalo. >> yeah, absolutely. it's great to be with you under these stances. we are so infatuated for guns in the state of texas that even in the midst of this tragedy, they could not say that we will hold offer to this a little later. at the end of the day, we know that they are going to continue with business as usual. we know that we saw the terrible shooting that happened in el paso, and when we had a legislative opportunity to do something about that, we did the opposite of what we should've done. i cannot say that these children would've necessarily survived, but i can't say that there were lawmakers like myself in representing their
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vehicles. the legislation that would've made it more difficult for someone like this to carry these things like this. we could not give this to the house floor. >> i want to follow up with this texas legislature. i want to bring brittani. in brittani, among the republicans who appear at the nra, we saw senator cruz, christine noem, mark robinson, virginia lieutenant governor winston. they will all be here. you spent a lot of times and teach for america. i'm curious as to your thoughts for the whole solution about arming teachers. with that have stalled anything i'm having the general on this solution. >> it would've created brand new problems. it is quite possibly the most terrifying solution that i have heard proposed us far. teachers already have to be counselors, surrogate parents,
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discipline arians, so many different things while we are in the classroom. now you want to be armed militia people as well. the idea that the very people who helped lead our children through this pandemic, that is continuing, while being underpaid and under some reported and understaffed, they should be armed and this is asinine. i think there has been an eight to -- a proposal to add more police officers and more resources to schools. similarly, it does not keep me young. data said after days that shows that more guns does not equal more safety. it is important to know the results are. after the parkland shooting, they put officers in every single school. what happened then. arrests hit a all-time five-year high. there were four times as many
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uses of restraints. this is not equally more safe for students. it is endangering a number of students. more police, more guns inside a school does not equal safety. it is not a safe learning environment. >> that is a good point when you think about things like the school to prison pipeline, jasmine, and what could potentially happen. the unique point in texas, right now, technically, the republican control and the texas state legislator could pass funding that requires a gun in every classroom. there will be virtually nothing to stop them. they have over 400,000 educators. my colleague, michael harriet, points out that this is a gun manufacturer gold mine. i am just curious to your thoughts. should the proposal help and in the texas state legislator. what could be the consequence in texas? it is a potential thing that could happen. >> right now, we already have a short as it relates to our
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teachers. obviously, a texas was passing crt and so many other stupid bills that were making teachers jobs already more difficult. as it has been pointed out by brittany, they are under funding them. the idea that you can find money to put a gun into your classroom but you cannot find the money to make sure that they have the basics that they may need when they are risking their lives. we've a teacher shortage right now. literally, teachers are risking going to jail if they teach certain themes in our classrooms. right now, there really is not an incentive to go into the classroom. this is another distancing for them if they are going to say now you need to have a gun. texas also passed legislation to say that people in need no training. are you going to give training? are people going to be licensed? none of this makes sense all that make sense a simple gun
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reform. there is no need for an ar-15. this is especially in the hands of an 18 year old. there is no need. we would not have experienced the wine as quickly as we did. maybe, law enforcement would not be so scared if he did not have an ar-15. we have to get real with where the problems are. we need to start solving them instead of creating more problems. >> you are preaching to the choir. i think that jasmine touched on great points there. this is of them being. scared watching the cries of the practice i want to go inside to rescue their children, i know you are a new mom, this policy struck a chord with you. i do think, when i think about law enforcement officers outside having fear of going inside, jackson makes a good point. they were afraid of an ar-15. if law enforcement is afraid of an ar-15, perhaps this is not a gun that should be on the streets. >> perhaps this is not a gun that should be on the streets. perhaps the way that we focus a
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lot on legislation in this country can actually go, not only to fundamental health that everyone wants to come to in moments like these, but also go to pull ar-15s off of the streets. it is really easy to want a good like -- words like deranged, senseless, it can ostracize us and pull us away from looking at systems. there is no amount of mental health funding or universal background checks alone that would have stopped this massacre. we need to not only add the things that help people and keep people healthy, but we need to remove the tools of violence. that is about removing an assault weapon at the very least. assault weapon munition weapon ammunition at the very least. if these police officers, who were standing outside, and afraid for their lives would not go and protect 19 innocent children, a school full of innocent children and teachers. police officers kill somebody when they are afraid for their
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lives. we need to seriously examine the entire institution of policing. what is the point. stick around with that. i do want to talk about that in our next block. i want to max you, jasmine, because a part of this is ted cruz keeps getting elected. governor abbott was elected. now the voters are faced with a choice, you have the two squaring off with an exchange earlier this week. what will texas do, jasmine? will they reelect governor abbott. we might have a shot at this point. >> i have no idea. we know that you and you ensure all race from el paso. one that shooting happened you are very passionate. then, instead of -- eight uses ideology but he shot himself in the foot. -- he has never proposed to take everyone's guns.
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all he proposed was to make sure that all we had its real reform. people don't realize is if we can focus on regulating a woman's uterus or of we can say that. lawmakers, if he did not come back, because we feel as if it is an existential threat, this idea of voter fraud, then we can do something as it relates to losing actual lives. we failed when it came to the grid. we are failing now when it comes to gun reform. people need to say, if this is really going to be a pro life party, let's talk about really starting to save lives. the lives that actually exist. right now, texas is feeling in his legislation. if you put someone like a beta ward in office, we have a chance. i'm just asking texans to take a chance. i do not make this a partisan fight. make this about doing the common sense things. make this about being pro-life and starting to save lives.
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>> sadly, what we know for sure, brittani and jasmine, is this will happen again. next time, for our viewers, it could be one of your children. think about that as we go to the ballot box this midterm election. brittani, you will be back because we want to talk about policing. jasmine, congressional candidate, thank you. we will bring you any additional information throughout this morning. it has been two years since the murder of george floyd by minneapolis police. it sparked worldwide protest. has anything? changed we will talk about this after the break. stay with us. after the break. after the break. stay wit ♪ ♪ we believe there's an innovator in all of us. ♪ ♪ that's why we build technology that makes it possible for every business... and every person... to come to the table and do more incredible things.
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incompetent or problematic the institution is. as i've said before, if the police killed, he's, and on armed people because they fear for their lives, and they will
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not stop harm people from slaughtering children, then clearly the institution itself is not sound. you've already provides 40% of their municipal budget to police. i am very sure that being tackled and handcuffed while you are trying to go in and rescue your own children is not with the residents of that town pay for. it is certainly would taxpayers are not paying for. speakers have spent many years and a lot of money mitigating that they do not have to endanger their lives if they do not have to. it is a challenging thing to ask of anybody. what this means is that we should stop telling people that is what they do. we should stop leading with this serve and protect idea. it is frankly not how they function. we have to recognize that there is a culture, in media and in television and film, that has created a narrative that police are perfect and heroes and everything they do is done with authority that should be respected without question. instead of the fact that we can
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look at other countries and recognize that at the very least, if arming please, demilitarizing please, and thinking creatively about how we will abolish policing as we know would i really get to the meeting of public safety, that is that our committees deserve. it is not what we tie but -- it is not just about where we take away but what we do to create healthy communities and healthy solutions. the institution opposing has far too long convinced us that they are here to serve and protect when so often, but they are always doing, is actually enforcing the will of the state. they are terrorizing black and brown people to do this. likely to sign that disturbing video, before we go, i know this is something that you've worked intimately on there was some reporting that biden's executive order leaked, and law enforcement was unhappy with some of the things that -- they didn't like draft references to systemic racism, they didn't like that federal grant money would be required
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to submit records and consult when they're hiring new officers. we're asking the problem to solve the problem. is that -- when i heard that, who gives sugar honey a seat to law enforcement. if they're offended with the white house put in this order? >> i think it's important to get all perspectives. the problem your highlighting, very appropriately is whose perspective is centered? whose perspective only thinking needs to be the final decision-maker that we use as an ultimate scale with his right and wrong in any action? what's notably missing is the community members. members of the community that know all too well the impact of law enforcement under lives. i'm black communities. asking them wet about this executive order affinity or places you? leading with those answers. it will also perhaps understand, or at least listening to law enforcement so we have those perspectives. but the idea that those folks are the ones that are helping
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to draw the order, or that we need to paint them happy as complicit -- is certainly a problem. the last thing we've learned is that the communities have the power, the voice, and the intelligence. people listen to them, and center their voice. -- >> i think that's right and issued just note that most of this executive order that focuses on federal policing, not the officers across the country. thank you for being here. coming up, whether former football star has everyone asking, wait what's up? find a with this full says, coming up next. for almost everyone.
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he'll be squaring off against -- as control of congress hangs in the balance. meanwhile stacey abrams will be facing governor kemp. in the words -- of are the voters ready? joining me now is washington correspondent making her cross connection debut miss tina mitchell, glad to have you here. and onset with the knee is low tasha brown, she's the cofounder of black voters matter. i will start off with you, my georgia voters seriously send herschel walker to the senator because once he was a good football player? >> i mean, i think it's been labeled, and i agree it is the most competitive senator right in america thus far. it's not just that he's a football star, it's that he's -- republicans in georgia, yes democrats have had a lot of
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success -- republicans have been running things in georgia for a generation. so, there's a lot of national money that's gonna be put behind herschel walker in hopes of convincing a majority of voters to support him. yes he is weak, policy wise, but he is a megastar in georgia. >> i mean, look, i have to say when we say things like he's weak policy wise, i hear you t, i have to say he's bat crazy. because the things that he or staying or really nonsensical. the fact that people can leapfrog over common sense and elect this person because of filling the blank, because of the courts, because of gun rights legislation, let's take a listen, he was asked by cnn on his thoughts on gun legislation, take a listen to his response. >> do you support new gun laws -- >> when i like to do when i said --
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i'd like to see it. >> i have no idea what he's talking, about what he's saying, he liked to see it and stuff like that. i'm curious, tasha, when we think about having someone like herschel walker square off with warnock, where does the debate between these two even look like, as the voters are struggling with rampant voter suppression? >> ironically, he's not saying anything. the bottom line is the whole support for herschel walker is based on the republican strategy to literally be able to peel off to literally create this person who literally can't be controlled. the bottom line is there is no debate. that's why he's saying he's not gonna go to the debate. he's simply a athlete who has done some business, and now he doesn't have a clear political position that he can articulate. this is just part of the republican strategy to be able to control and manipulate the election process. >> that's what they do, they and pluck one from the bunch, find this one go out and say
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some dumb stuff so people can say dumb things about themselves. i'm not racist because i'm voting for this black idiot. it's so transparent, we can see through that. i'm curious though, voter suppression in such a big problem. your organization black voters matter, to leapfrog over the voter suppression. where was the turnout like for early voting in this primary? you think about people voting in the primaries, there is the extremists, did we see that play out? >> in this election in georgia there was an increase in turnout across the board. when we did see as we actually saw young people -- did not come out in record numbers. young people from 18 to 24 came out at like 2.4%. and then it was -- it was saying a couple of things, it's kept capturing some of the frustration. when they got engaged, when we think about, if we need those young voters to get engaged after the george floyd
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oppressor. particularly first-time voters. we're not seeing any comprehensive movement under police reform. it's indicative. that gets signed as we did see turnout increase across the board. when we say george is hot, georgia's really gonna be hot this fall when it comes to this election. >> look keep our eyes on it, to, i want to ask you, what are you seeing in terms of turnout? particularly, like i said, there's a lot of voter suppression happening? what is it telling us that we should look out for come this november? >> well, like natasha said, turnout was a little bit lighter on the democratic side but that's a little bit to be expected. at the top of the democratic ticket there weren't competitive primaries. we knew that stacey abrams was gonna be the gubernatorial nominee. -- but you still had record turnout, even though it was last on the democratic side that on the republican side. i do think that, you know, as these issues are bubbling up, abortion, gun rights, or gun
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control, and the economy -- there is gonna be energy on the democratic side that will help the turnout. but as latosha said, there's a lot of frustration. if democrats don't give their base enough to say, yes, let me show up, i think they do run the risk of people staying home. as you mentioned, senate bill 202 continues to be a concern. republicans will say look at the record turnout. that shows that all the concern about senate bill 202 was much ado about nothing. but that's a generalization and an oversimplification of the actual concerns that were raised. the concerns that were raised or about how senate bill 202 can affect a very close race by taking of people in the margins, for example changes with early voting. changes with absentee voting. voting by mail. even if it just affects a few people, a relatively small amount of the electorate, could
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it be a game-changer in a close race, and we expect abrams and camp to be close. we expect? there's a possibility that walker versus warnock could be close. that's gonna make a difference down the ballot. >> well we'll certainly be watching stacey abrams, was a -- in 2018 was able to cast a wide net of influence across the country, we'll keep our eyes on georgia. thank you so much to mitchell, you'll definitely have to come back. let tasha is sticking with us, and keeping her hostage with me right on set. be sure to check out your -- the nbc plan the vote to witness help being you to successfully cast your ballot. get the information on the voting rules including registration details, what's bringing with you on election date, don't get caught slipping. that's nbc news dot com slash plan your vote. speaking of voting, legendary rapper luther campbell recently traded on twitter asking why
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depend. the only thing stronger than us, is you. okay let's be honest, two things can be true at the same time. the lives of many black and brown voters did in fact improve under the biden administration. that's true. but we can also still very -- feel let down by democrats as a whole, feeling taking for granted. particularly black voters. some folks are wondering if their vote even matters as they watch republicans gerrymandered their communities. and political powers to oblivion. it prompts a very important question -- what do you say to your non political cousin or friends that say voting never changes anything. back with me is latasha brown she's a cofounder of black voters matters, and also joining me is roland martin. thank you rower for being here. i want to start with you, because this whole thing started because legendary
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rapper uncle luke, of two life to fame, set off a styrofoam -- he posted something on twitter saying give me five reasons to vote. i did want to say we did indict invited luther to join. us he was trying best effort to get to work. but they couldn't change its flight so he's not here. i do want to say that he feels he was misunderstood in this tweet and that he was not saying don't vote. but the tasha, i've heard you on this. my question is why should black people vote? >> i'll give them five reasons, instead of that 41 point million reasons. because black people better. at the end of the day there's consequences that go with elections. let me say this, at least two uncle loop. on one level, i understand his frustration. what he's saying, he's capturing, i think, the frustrations that we've been hearing. we've been going out to black voters, there has been a sense of feeling not that they've got with they voted for. i think there's truth in that. i think we also have to
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recognize that there is consequences when we don't vote. case in point, i'll go back from 2012 to 2016. what happened in 2012? we had record numbers. 2016, it was a decline. in 20 years of black voters -- when did we get? donald trump. whether donald trump to, he created a muslim ban, he created policies that hurt black people and the black community, and packing the courts with people that we are feeling the repercussions. now we're in this political contest that we inherited. quite frankly we have a political system that from the very started everything it could to disenfranchise and not include black people in the process. so we're still dealing with structural racism within the political process. we also have to recognize that we have consequences in our communities when we don't vote. we have to be a part of the policy making process for the health and well-being of our communities. >> and our system, joy reid, trying to get them together --
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i wanna go back to that, before i bring you in row row. a wise man said by the time of latasha brown, told me that i want you to believe in this system. -- this system that keeps me in my children in dilapidated schools. when i ask you to believe in the system, we ask you to believe in you. but listen, roland, i think this is such a challenge because there's so many people who feel like him. there are justified criticisms of democrats in the biden administration. but there's so many things that they have done. that matter -- there's groups of people who feel like my vote doesn't count. what are your thoughts on that? >> well when someone asks a question, two things happen. whether they are implying and wet mi inferring? when i looked at his question, my response was not -- what the hell is wrong with you?
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i actually listened to his correction. 95 things. go back to biden's lift every vote plan. it's on joe biden's dot com. he talked about diversifying the federal bench. not just that, more women of color including black women and black men to the federal bench. this week, five women of color were advance in the united states senate. you've got more black women appointed to the appeals court by joe biden than any other point in history combined. now, somebody might say, federal judges no big deal, trust me when you are suing, when you're looking all these decisions that federal judges are striking things down, you send it back to federal judges. to, expanding small businesses and administration. last month they expanded the program for african american, black-owned businesses to increase their capacity when it comes to loans. he put in his plan, make the minority businesses per minute. that took place in december.
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and the funding was cut by 75% by president trump -- they locked in 110 million. the bottom line is, i can give you five, now. the george floyd act -- no. but voting right expansions? no. but we have to, the biden inspiration has to do a better job of messaging with they've done. specifically not in general. >> people can look at the tweet and they can see that people responded overwhelmingly. he got many reasons. but roland i want to stay with you for a second because this is something that compounds me. there seems to be a gender divide here. there seem to be more black men that feel this way than there are black women. black men overwhelmingly support the democrat party. but just a numbers of who votes and gets out there -- there also seems to be a generational divide, particularly in the hip-hop community. but still rhymes, and some of the people of loops generation who adopt this mentality. why do you think it's specific to black men, disproportionate
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to black women, who feel this way? well here's a deal let's go back to obama running against romney there is a nine-point gap supporting obama. that's where it started there is an ad of brothers that felt obama didn't follow through on his promises. they felt disenfranchised. in 2016 that number expanded. i told hillary clinton, you have a black male problem. they didn't listen. that expanded in 2020. you've got black man who say we are looking at brothers in person, we're looking at in conservation. you've also got black men who are business owners. they're looking at this whole thing from an economic standpoint. here's the piece, if you want to compete for votes. you've got to compete. if you are a democrat, you have to figure out a message to black women. look, they've done very well with messaging to black women, but in the last campaign, they had these barbershop talks --
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they were not even pushed out significantly by the joe biden campaign. democrats, i've been warning them and other people -- mondale robinson, other people -- warning them for a decade. y'all got a problem. they're asleep at the wheel. the same problem they have in south texas. latinos, they've got with blackmon. they've got a fix, they've got ashore of that messaging and how are you going to help brothers move forward? they've got to act answer. it giving me closing thoughts. >> i think we are missed information and disinformation. there is a calculated disk concerning effort to attack black men and how black men exploit what they are feeling and their anger in this moment. >> this is a good point. thank you for bringing it up. roland is going to join us in the next hour. thank you so much natasha for being here. she is running to catch a flight. i appreciate you making time this morning. coming up next, white replacement theory is real, just not the way you think it. my essay is next. hundreds of protesters have
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have been hearing a lot about white replacement theory. >> you've heard a lot about the great replacement theory. you are being replaced and there's nothing you could do about it. just shut up. >> yeah, well this might be a surprise to many of you, but i actually think that white replacement theory is very legitimate. it is absolutely something to fear. after all, look at the disruption that white replacement has caused. many of us have seen the dangers when powerful white people want something and they annex it. they never had a problem replacing the people who stood in their way. think back, on this very day in 1830, congress passed the indian removal act. it was the forced relocation of
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thousands of native americans and what eventually became know as the trail of tears. basically, white settlers saw all this a fertile land and wanted it for themselves. but, the indigenous were in the way. they had to be replaced with a white faces. more than 100 native americans were forced off by the u.s. military to abandon their homes and relocate to indian territory. more than 4000 died on the journey. white replacement is deadly. it did not stop there and continue through the centuries with violent destruction to black cities which happened 101 years ago a week ago in tulsa. it was a redrawing of congressional maps, et cetera. went to many people of color voted, white folks newer to do. replace them with white voters. make it harder for us and make it easier for them. be violent, if you have to. use redistricting to let politicians of both -- choose their voters instead of the other way around. why replacement is a danger to everyone. look at the many china towns
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across the country. as npr points out, they form at the end of downtown. they are representing 150 years of immigrant survival. not anymore! the problem, in many cases, the white people wanted the downtown real estate. the solution, replace the folks that are already there. a study of chant downs and philadelphia, new york, and boston, show that the number of white residents in china town are growing at a faster rate than the overall population in those cities. the systems, the working class people who worked on for years were disrupted and they had to bounce. white replacement is costly. from the latino committee getting out of the san francisco's mission district to the lower east side pushing out puerto rico's who cannot survive the housing market, this modern-day colonialism continues to disrupt and displays so that well off white people can live without the inconvenience of the very folks that give the committee it's life. white replacement is gangster. that is seen here in the
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nation's capital when the wealthy and white caught dope of how d.c. was with cultural history housing black l excellence, they said it is mine right now. they doused chocolate city with vanilla creamer while complaining about the joyful noses of global brands. white replacement can strangle culture. yes, we should all be concerned about white replacement. it is, after all, a threat to our survival here. i suppose, white replacement rip requires a study by some. it should be a tentative of critical race theory. the people who want to replace us, literally cannot live without us. meanwhile, we are out here trying to survive them while they come up with a new damascus reasons to serve us. infuriating. coming up in the next hour, we will talk about the parkland school shooting and the woman who talked down a suspected gunman in a georgia school and the emotional toll that lingers after these a shooting. systemic racism and violence have many black americans
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welcome back to the cross connection. the 19 babies and two teachers that were murdered this weekend in uvalde, texas, have not been
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buried by their loved ones but the nra has no problem holding its gun worship convention 300 miles away from the last seen of american carnage. pro gun control parents and children were fined will be found across the children -- street. joining me is jack brewster who is outside the nra convention in houston. thank you for being there with us. what's happening on the ground? what is the mood? >> tiffany, what we are seeing today is what we saw yesterday but different. inside the convention you do not have high profile speakers we. saw former president trump yesterday and texas senator ted cruz yesterday. we have high-profile speakers on the inside and outside we have thousands of protesters who are demonstrating the convention and processors who wanted because of the tragedy in the town four and a half hours away from here earlier this week because of the shooting. wanted to be postponed or
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canceled. it is the houston chapter of the black lives matter and in conjunction with other groups. we have people who protested and a try to show their disapproval with the policies that were being disposed at the convention across the street. i want you to listen to what we heard from the politicians, republican politicians, specifically president trump and a ted cruz who framed it around the sensitivity. this includes the shooting that we had earlier this week and their pro gun policies. listen to how they frame this. . >> i want to come out to protest the convention. i find it terrible that the government allowed it to happen today, here, in the state. i want to show outrage and support people who are out here and let them know that we are empowered by numbers. i think it is shameful. everything that is happening, everyone who is walking up, they still feel shameful. they are completely ignorant to
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the fact that there are parents making funeral arrangements today. i wanted this to -- >> apologize for that. that was sound from the protesters. that was in response to the messages that you are hearing on the inside. you had the republican leaders saying that it is not about gun control policies. it is not about the gun. instead, there are other ways that you could help solve these problems. ted cruz, talking, for example, about having one entrance to schools. president trump was saying that teachers should be armed and that schools should not be soft targets, but the hardest target, in his words. that was the framing that you heard there. i want you to listen to what we heard from them. >> as always, in the wake of these tragedies, the various gun control province the seas are being pushed by the left would not have been preventing the horror that took place. >> taking guns away from these
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responsible americans will not make them safer. nor will it make our nation more secure. >> compared to what we heard from the politicians to what we heard from the protesters, we get a sense of divide. that divide, while it might not be in display today at the convention, it is something that will be persistent through this weekend, tiffany. >> jack, we will check back in with you this hour something happens. stay safe out there. thank you. it is -- we should harden schools make places of learning more like a presence and suggest arming teachers with handguns to fight against ar-15s. americans are waiting for real solutions to this source of gun violence. the leading cause of death for kids in america. i would like to welcome ceo of kids on the move for success. she is a former books keeper who talked down a gunman in georgia in 2018. and a survivor of the parkland
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shooting and a student at uc berkeley. and tenet, you have been like this before. i have to say, watching what you went through and how you were went through this it is live and breathtaking. i want you to take a listen to this and we will get you on the other side. >> he said he should have just went to the mental hospital instead of doing this because he is on medication. . you want to talk to them and try to -- we want to work it up so you don't have to go with them for a long time. he did not hit anyone he just shot outside the door. i'm going to walk outside with him. if i walk out there with him they will not shoot him or anything like that? he wants to give himself up? is that okay? they will not shoot him? >> yes ma'am?
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>> he just want to go to the hospital. >> okay. . >> that is quite breathtaking. i want to ask how you can maintain such a calm demeanor with someone who was armed a standing room front of you. talk to us about what happened that day. >> first of all, it was god. it was not me. i was sitting there praying to god. what do we do next. this man is only 20 years old. he wants to take his own life. he wants to take all of our lives. i was like, what do we do next to be able to have everyone survived? not just the kids, and not just me, but the gunman also and he try to commit suicide right there in front of me with a gun. when he tried to kill the kids right there in front of me, it was that tough tactics and what i used today. compassion, confidence, control. i allowed him to have that knowledge that i had compassion for him, i have the confidence to stay in control of it all. on the inside of me, i was
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screaming. we are hoping that everyone was gonna survive. thankfully, we were able to survive. this is not the issue. it is not the problem. this is not what we need to do. we need to look at how we are going to make a change. it is not arming i can promise you that. if i had a gun, we all would've been dead. do we have any idea of what happened to that young man or why he even wanted to shoot anyone at the school. he told me that he'd had not taken his medicine. >> he ended up wanting -- it was a month after the sandy hook school shooting. he was being a copycat of these shooting. he passed several schools to get to my school. he parked his car next to mine. what he did not know is he was going to encounter god and me in the building. we were all gonna go home together that day. >> thank goodness he did, and thank goodness you all went home that day. i think one of the most
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challenging things about this, kai, especially do you, you are genesee. taking in this imagery, there is not a space in my life where people have not broken down, been despondent, been said. i think about young people taking this and for the first time. what advice were tools do you offer for your peers who are just blanketed in sadness as we see what is happening in this country? >> yeah, one of the biggest things that i noticed after parkland was an overwhelming focus on passing hr raids and red flag laws and universal background checks. there was an overwhelming and focus around the implementation of mental health resources. for me, it was a huge calling to develop these things myself. at uc berkeley i partnered with world renowned professors in mind and emotion theory to build an app. it can recognize how a user is
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feeling in realtime. we can recommend ways to meet their motion leads in realtime. along the same journey, i gave mental health and keynote speeches surrounding how to come back from trauma and tragedy. how t people love the fact that i had these exercises that were tailored towards emotional needs and coming up to circumstances as opposed to 1000 ways to breathe. we act like this is a one size fits all to every problem. the app that we will launch overall in the fall, which it compresses practices of different varieties and overcoming circumstances that people face every day, we'll be launching in the fall. it will be called the joy app. to learn more about that, you can visit our project a ei and i hope to help with great people. >> for those who are in the moment going through it right
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now, and this is on both sides, kai, because there are people who are feeling overwhelming grief who are your peers and younger than you, and then there are those who are feeling frustrations that they feel in society by being glued to their phones all the time, being insecure, and looking at this as an option. maybe there someone who wants to inject the violence on someone. what advice would you have outside of the app? what advice can you offer today that they can do today to just manage getting through this awful time? >> obviously, the immediate answer to that is if you need help from professional counselors and the like, be sure to take. that there is no shame in admitting that you need help. you can make sure that you get the help that you need and you can live a happy and well balanced life. reach out to your peers for support. people will be surprised how often they can find support in familiar places. i would say those are my two guiding principles for advice. >> i would ask you the same,
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antoinette, because i have a lot of friends who are parents and overwhelmed. even my colleagues who are in journalism. most of my colleagues have been saying this is different. they cannot get past this overwhelming grief and the awful stories. we just saw what happened in buffalo and now another school shooting. how were you able to manage after you endured what you did and how are you able to manage with reliving this trauma so frequently with more and more mass shootings happening? >> -- that was for antoinette. >> what i do, tiffany, is that i go outside for corporations and school districts and i talk about them when i use like compassion, confidence, and control. it is tough tactics. i show them techniques in what they can do. i speak in front of 4000 educators next month. i go back and make sure that we
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are actually going in and showing them with the techniques are. how was i able to be able to talk the gunman down. what were those tools and techniques that were used. i also say that we go back to put things back in place. it takes a village to raise a child. i'm my grandmother used to say. that it is still the same today. my nonprofit kids are on the move for success where we create ouster school programs for my kids. i do not want my kids to feel like they have to be the next gunman. they do not feel like they are bullied. we make sure that we reach a family as a whole. we do our actual parent academy. we try to educate parents on what to do. what are their rules? how do they go back and be able to advocate for their children? those are the things that we do with them through my organizations. -- >> thank you so much, antoinette and kai koerber for being here. we would like to have you both back soon. it has been 100 days in the
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detained, russia invaded ukraine. >> that almost killed me actually. i was terrified. am i gonna ever gonna see her again? that is the first thing that popped into my mind when that happened. i thought that was it. i'm really never gonna see her again. >> that was sheryl griner, the wife of britney griner, speaking with my friend angela -- she did amazing interview about the agony that she has endured over the past few months. -- in an effort to keep her stories in the headlines have
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increased. one of those women's the head coach of the university of south carolina's women's basketball team. -- and an olympic gold medalist. i'm pleased to say she joins me now. welcome and thank you so much for being here. you have been adamant bringing attention to this will kind of support have you gotten in your efforts to help bring brittani home? >> there are a lot of people rallying around brittani bringing britney home. we just have to get the right people, the decision-makers. my whole involvement is to get her home and what ways are people we can call to get that done. all of britney's family members, her wife especially, sure rail, they want your home, and the best way to do that is get in front of the president of the united states and beg and plead for him to find a way in his
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heart to get her home, so everybody can sleep a little bit easier. >> i want to take another listen to angela's great interview which cheryl griner. >> in my mind, i am like this is britney griner. so for me, i was so hopeful. unlike, they're gonna go getter. they're gonna go getter. our president is going to wake up and see that this is a big deal, and that he can actually do something about. it >> have you been satisfied with the response from the white house? i know there is an effort to keep the story in the headlines but have the white house do you know reached out to britney's family, to anyone at this point? >> at this point, i don't think there is communication there. let me just say this. i don't think people are sitting on their hands. there are people out there that
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are trying to get it done, without the involvement of our president. this is too big for him not to be a part of this solution. and i'm almost gonna beg to jill biden, our first lady, because sometimes when a woman gets involved, they really have an understanding of what it is to be without their child. just the unknown of what's their child's future is. i know somebody is listening. i'm hoping they are tuning in this morning so we can put britney's family at ease. i know there is a lot of talk of this or that. i mean, it's an american female basketball player that is in a
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russian prison. so i've been doing as much research as possible. i listen to trevor reed's story. his thing was, don't be quiet about this. scream at the top of your lungs. all his family members said that. we just need more people screaming at the top of their lungs to make this happen. i am not a relative of britney 's. i'm a friend of hers. but i can only imagine the amount of time that i spent, my mental focus is on her and which she is dealing with. >> i think you make such a good point don. we are brittany. when you think about what you would want and if you are wrongfully detained in russia, what you would hope others were here doing. i want to play for our viewers a soundbite by trevor reed, who was brought home back to america earlier this month. take a listen to what he endured while he was in russia.
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think about britney in that moment. perhaps this will's support more action on our parts. >> it was pretty terrible. blood on the walls. crap all over the floor. also on the walls. the guards don't really, they really treat those prisoners like animals. the medical personnel there as well just completely unprofessional. >> we were afraid you might keep the can't be kept there indefinitely. >> absolutely, i was afraid of the. i thought maybe they had sent me there to chemically disabled me, give me senators or whatever. and making unable to fight. >> turn you into a vegetable basically. >> yes, exactly. that's what i was afraid of and that was one of my biggest fear is the whole time that i was in prison. >> it's frightening when you hear that don because you wonder what is happening to brittani these days. what is she going through. have you've been in touch with her wife at all? >> i haven't, through people i
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have. i think she has got so much on her plate from an emotional standpoint, from her mind being occupied. what more could she do to get her wife home? i've been in touch with her, her agent, and i'm just a vessel. i'm going through my phone, i watch every morning and go through my phone and see, who can i contact this morning to help us? i'm putting out all the stops. >> i want to play really quickly this last soundbite, it will back -- it was so amazing. this was a pointed question that she asked i will post you have to replace this clip. >> if it was the to brian or katie or steph curry, do you think that you would be sitting here today? >> respectfully, no. no shade to them when i say
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this but the answers that question would be. no i don't. i think it is because we live in a world that the bigger the platform, the bigger the urgency. because of the difference in the wpa platform and that nba platform is gonna be a difference in urgency. >> adam silver was asked about this as well. he stated that the nba refrain from making a public statement on griner's case on the suggestion that experts thought that was the best path. that is not been your approach. there is a petition circulating on a website, -- of people trying to get more people to sign on her hundred-day captivity. your thoughts of this were lebron or katie or any other major mail must compel player? >> i don't know if we would be in this situation, but here is what i do know. they would be talking about it every single day. they would open up every sport,
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show every network, would, i'm talking about mainstream, every network would be talking about, leading in with this is the 100th day that god forbid any of those guys be put in that situation. i just want to empathize. i want people to empathize with brittany. and also the 54 other prisoners who are detained and other countries. i know brittany. i'm gonna speak out on brittany. i've been emotional relationship with brittany because like -- i've known her for the past ten years. there isn't anybody that wouldn't give the shirt off their back for anyone, for young people, should give shoes to the homeless, we need britney griner back home, doing the goodies that she's always done in her life. and her family, they need to
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sleep peacefully at night. >> well i will tell you that we will be on top of the story consistently. we will always use this platform to highlight this plight as you will go forward. thank you so much for the work that you are doing. to our viewers we will stay on top of the story. thank you don for being here. coming, up the growing number of african american leaving the country to leave racism behind. that's a conversation we'll have after the break. a conversation we'l on the hedges ♪ have after the break ♪ and kenny on the koi ♪ ♪ and your truck's been demolished by the peterson boy ♪ ♪ yes -- ♪ timber... [ sighs heavily ] when owning a small business gets real, progressive helps protect what you've built with affordable coverage.
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an. on these horrific tragedies become more frequent, many of us are asking, where is our will conduct? a place where we are welcome and left? is it time to toss the deuces to the good old u.s. of a and find our roots? joining me now is washington post columnist -- roland martin is back with me, host of the daily digital show and -- the author of black american refugee will. watch out we have a lot to get to. i want to start with. you your op-ed actually sparked this that you wrote in the washington post, which i thought was so great. listen, i hear all of you make a really good point, but my question is, why should we flee instead of staying and continuing on in the century long battle? when i think about what my ancestors went through, no matter how they make me feel, this is my home, and my
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instinct is to stand and fight. we must die, we will die fighting for our homes that our ancestors built. your thoughts on the. >> it's a good point. i want to state very clearly, i am coming at this as someone whose parents are from west africa, from ghana, and standing in that position penalty there. honestly, tiffany, i think what is interesting and important to note is that we are living in a time where people have a choice. i think it is a very individual, personal choice. i grew up in texas as well. i feel that torn feeling of everything that is going on happening in america, but i cannot lie to you and speaking to you from ghana, that there is a sense of peace.
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[laughs] there is a sense of feeling like you can literally sort of breathe. there is nothing to undermine the psychic relief when you see people on tv here who look like you, you see people on the news and then the media looked like you, and when you see where a lot of the traditions of the african american traditions and culture and food and dance, you can see it and feel it here. i empathize with people who make choices either way. but i wrote that piece to situated in history, true history, of african american civil rights. -- who spent his latter years here, in ghana, a lot of people have. nina simone wrote about her time in liberian. my angelou actually spent a good amount of time in ghana.
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-- i think for me it is more so opening a peoples imagination that the world is really diverse. -- wherever you are wanted, where we are loved and appreciated. i don't want to sugarcoat. it is not a utopia here. but just to put that seat in people's minds that there are places where we can feel at home. >> i gotcha. i think that's such a good point. and -- he moved and relocated and moved to south africa. i have to say tiffany, i love your name. i want to ask you, when i think about leaving this country, i want to ask how does that work? what does it look like? you have to think about being able to make a, living having the proper documentation, health care systems. if you have children, what's the schooling look like for them? you actually did this and wrote all about in your amazing book. so talk us through. this for people watching and saying, you know what, i'm
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getting out of here, what does that look like? >> it is really, really, really demanding task and that i have two kids, will have to think about my kids at the forefront. i've even learned that moving your kids out of the country, if you have a parent that is in the united states, it requires a court process, documentation, so much to think about. primarily, everyone must think about their emotional and psychological well-being. if you can go to a place where you feel freer, more embraced, where you feel that you have better rights, better access to things like health care, i'm from trinidad and tobago, where health care is just a universal right. you can show up to the hospital and to the doctor and get health care. these are things you have to think about before you make big moves. everyone has their own point of research, and getting access to where they are gonna get that information from, ultimately it
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is we have to, if you are motivated primarily by our psychological well-being, and feeling free, we are gonna find the energy to do all that make the move ultimately. >> i think the unique thing about our fellow panelists with karen in tiffany, they had a first generation connection to these countries. you traveled to ghana during the return in 2019. we saw all the fabulous pictures and posters you are posting. it flooded our timeline. talk to me how it felt going back there as a descendant of the enslaved and making that pilgrimage back to where our ancestral stories began? >> well, it's very interesting, because i have my maternal paternal side, they actually migrated from haiti, then of course my american descendants of slaves on my other three grandparents side. it is a completely different
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feeling. every time i've been, there have been to the continent three times, and every time i take a photo of my teacher feet actually touching the soil when i got off the plane. it is a totally different feeling. it is one of evs. i think how do you set it up, we set up differently. why folks move all around the world? there are people that are moving to costa rica. there are people who moved to france. italy. what's people has to happen is we have to expand the perspective of african americans say, you don't touch they have to stay here. it is a different feel. in terms of when i was traveling, i think also but we have to confront is that for many of us african americans, we have been the victims of white supremacy, in terms of how american media has positioned the continent of africa in modern in our minds. like it was like, oh my god, one of a? plumbing would, about electricity?
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i'm, like seriously? this was the 200th anniversary of the first free folks that traveled to librarian to create that particular country. that country was far more advanced prior to the civil war of 1980. they're trying to rebuild. it it's an opportunity to expand economic opportunities. -- steady how much money you have and how much it may go another country's, how much further it may go based on the value of their money. -- show people, this is the reality, as opposed to your perception of what's gonna or senegal or nigeria or kenya's. >> right. this is a conversation. i'm more questions about. this don't go anywhere. we will continue the conversation on the other side. will continue the conversation on the other side
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with me to discuss the growing number of african american leaving the united states to escape racism. almost 5000 people have made gone at their home, black folks left america and took up residence in ghana. i'm interested though in, when you erase the fact that you are not a minority? when everybody looks like you, there are a whole new set of issues. what a relief it is to deal with the new set of issues. sometimes it's six and one hand half a dozen in another, but it is a different kind of peace and relief. i wonder, could there be a scenario in which black people who have the means, are moving to different countries, particularly in gannon africa, could we first be perceived as the gentrifiers in that case? that we are coming in interrupting their way of life? i'm chris about your thoughts. >> yes. there is definitely that slight
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tension for sure. especially in the age of social media. i'm thinking of the -- especially wealthy black celebrities flushing their fancy stays here, whereas many people here in ghana are still living with a huge amounts of inequality and huge amounts of poverty. that is a very real thing. that being said, that again, i agree with what owen said in the previous segment, it is about expanding all of our imaginations about what is possible to be black in this world. i think there are opportunities, we are already seeing it in culture, in music, and the sort of ways that cross culture-y, whether it's hip pop, afrobeats, we are seeing these exchanges and these collaboration's. i really think the opportunity to travel and move and live is
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really part of hopefully what will help, honestly, all of us. >> we want to bring tiffany back into the conversation. because you've done this stephanie, and is really curious, for people watching, what is the very first step? you talked in general about. things spoke right now, what is the very first step for somebody who says i want to explore leaving this country and taking up residence elsewhere? >> i would say the first step for most americans is a passport. because sadly many americans do not have a passport. that goes to roland's point about not having the imagination to think that there is somewhere else that they can lift. embracing the idea of living elsewhere, getting that passport, starting to travel, figuring out where exactly makes you feel at home. where it gives you that sense of okay, where this is where i can live. ultimately, that is the first step. and then in terms of the immigration process, the second state does get an online job. there are so many opportunities
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right now, that you can make money online, and that opens up the world. becomes your oyster. because all of a sudden, you can live in so many different places but still have access to the u.s. dollar which is ultimately gonna be very useful to you no matter where you live. >> that's a very good point. go right ahead. jump. it >> i want to ask a question that u.s. karen. do not be the arrogant ass american? learn to ingratiate yourself into the culture. learn about the culture. there are some highfalutin rich places in ghana. i showcased it. but don't be the arrogant american. don't go there looking down upon people. -- the tensions and librarian have been there since the start because of the indigenous people, and people who came from the united states who brought the u.s. way of thinking. the reading i've been doing, in the discussions have been
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amazing, but that is the first thing, stop acting like you are going to find the same situation that you have in houston or chicago or charlotte or atlanta, there. understand these are still countries that are increasingly developing, but you're not gonna have the same necessarily comforts. don't say, oh my god, the food. learn to not be the arrogant american. that's the first thing. >> i think that is such good advice. do not be the eric and asked american. very poetic words from roland martin. i think you all have given us something to think about, because i know a lot of people, roland and i are in a group chat together, there are so many times where we're all, let's get the f out of here. and you all presented a roadmap to that option. thank you for your great piece in the washington post. tiffany, for your wonderful book i should say and roland martin for always bringing the fun. roland you have to come onset with me, next time you and i
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will be on set together. chateau christina of charisma and macron by made this. it is beautiful. it is really nice. >> thank you all, so much. honoring the victims of the tulsa massacre 101 years ago this weekend. this is after the break. stay with us. this weekend this is stay with us (grandmother) thank you for taking me home. it's so far. lkshakes, please. (grandmother) make it three. (young woman) three? (grandmother) did you get his number? (young woman) no, grandma! grandma!! (grandmother) excuse me! (young woman vo) some relationships get better with time. that's why i got a crosstrek. (avo) ninety-six percent of subaru vehicles sold in the last ten years are still on the road. (grandmother) i'm so glad you got a subaru. (young woman) i wonder who gave me the idea? (avo) love. it's what makes subaru, subaru.
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being honored for your amazing work. you are fresh from the podium to join us. i appreciate you for being here. tell us about the purpose about the black wall street festival. we want to spread this truth, expand hope, and expands tradition. haugen's commemoration expand the voices of those from the tulsa massacre who are now seeking justice. >> it is good to see you. anytime you call, i will be here. we are coming up on 101 years of the anniversary of the tulsa race massacre. our purpose today is to continue to make the word move forward. the fight moves forward. as you know, tiffany, we had a historic victory a couple of weeks ago. we had to move our case forward. we really galvanized in our supports and our descendants. our survivors are right here today. we are making sure that people know that we are still in this fight. justice for greenwood will continue to push forward. we want people to know what we are doing so that they could join us at justice for greenwood dot org. >> you brought up the lawsuit
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that was allowed to proceed. what are the next steps? where does this stand? what can we look for? >> unfortunately, tiffany, i still do not have the written order from the judge. i really do not know what's the next step is, specifically. we are preparing for everything. we believe that we are going to have the opportunity to have discovery that this case is not have been in over 100. years we will have the opportunity to have a trial on this issue and give nuisance evaded and get justice for our people. >> we hope. for people watching, what can folks at home due to help support and continue this fight? >> tiffany, we can do what we always do, spread our message. go to our website at justice for greenwood. make a donation to the work. continue to provide support, prayers, and messages of encouragement which are necessary in this type of work. when things are going on like what happened in buffalo, the first thing i thought about was
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survivors went through that. the mental health of my survivors and my descendants. having a community of people around the nation standing with us, donating to our cause, and letting us continue to know that we love and support us, because you being a tall, so you know that the powers that be, and the city of tulsa and the chamber, they do not support. as they are fighting against. as they are trying to starve us of resources and keep us from justice. people are binding together with us. it is the best thing you can do. make a donation today. >> i'm thinking of the survivors today. mother fletcher, mother randall, uncle fred, i want everyone to get a sense of the fighting spirit in uncle red. he did an interview with our colleagues at another network after the decision came down from the judge. take a listen and we will discuss this after. >> you feel a deep down to your core. >> yes. >> it has been a long time coming. >> a long time coming. it is going to come.
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a change is coming. >> after decades and decades of trying, this is just for a chance. >> just for a chance. uncle brad said he will keep fighting if he is 130 years old. he will keep fighting. we are commemorating memorial day this weekend. you just think about all of the people who served this country who went back home to tulsa to have their homes destroyed after serving and fighting for democracy abroad, they could not get any such thing back home in tulsa. it is quite striking. we give our viewers an idea about uncle red, mother fletcher, and mother randall. >> that is amazing. you saw uncle read in that interview. he said he's going to live to 130. he is very serious. he told me in a text message before the hearing, he sent me a text, he can text at 101. he texted me and said that you let the lawyers know, they
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think they were going to wait till we die, we are not going anywhere. me and my sister, my big sister, viola fletcher, was 108, we are not going anywhere. you think about these three. three is a special number. these three are the only living survivors who are still here. they are all over 101 years old. mother fletcher is one away. they have a fire, they have their minds, and they are leading this fight. i'm just blessed and honored that i get to be there, be their friend, be there are doctored son. it is a great lesson for me. they love you, tiffany. they love you so much because you have been so strong for them. you have shown up for them, personally, with your show, with your calls and texts. they always tell me, and you know this, tiffany, when they interview with msnbc, they want you. they appreciate you so much. >> i love them so much. thank you so much this a man's. all of our love to the folks in tulsa today. we will be right back. ks i tulsa today. we will
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thank you everybody for watching the cross connection. all be back next saturday at 10 am eastern. don't go anywhere. my friend alex witt has the latest. hi alex. >> hey. i'm so glad to see you. i'm so glad you share your ties to tulsa and how lucky those people are that you continue to shine a spotlight on what's goes on. there i am so proud to be your colic. and putting that for the.
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record >> thank. you >> look caused meantime, a very good made all of you from msnbc world headquarters in new york. welcome everybody to alex witt reports. we begin with the growing outrage and heartbreak in uvalde, texas. here is the dallas morning news, quoting a child's call to 9-1-1, begging them to please send the police now. details of delays and decisions made by police during the shooting now not leaving greece strife and parents and state officials furious as the children recount the ordeal. >> one of the persons in my class said help, the guy overheard, and he came and shot her. and in the cops barged into that classroom, and he said it's time to die. i was hiding hard. i was


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