, getting rid of sugar cravings, helps control stress and emotional eating, and losing weight. go to golo.com and see how golo can change your life. hello everyone i'm alicia that's g-o-l-o.com. meninges here in uvalde, texas, where it's a sunday of grief and mourning. the president and first lady on the ground today, paying respects to victims families, just days after the mass shooting at robb elementary, directly behind me. in the backdrop of all this lingering questions about the police response to the scene, to calls for action, people yelling at the president to do something. president biden signaling back, we will. i had this hour a firsthand account of what it was like to treat victims here in uvalde, as you hear this mass shooting

is sadly not the first, they responded to. and speaking of calls for action, that's because someone who solving gun crime once could start by convincing a new generation that they're safer without guns. welcome to a new hour of american voices. this sunday the city of uvalde remains in shock struggling to find a way forward after 19 students, and two teachers were killed inside robb elementary behind me on tuesday. the president, just warning remain -- first responders. he's now heading back to san antonio before heading back to delaware, earlier today president biden and the first lady -- in town doing what they can to let uvalde know the nation is with them, president biden took the time to take in each of the victims pictures at the memorial behind me, he bostic

-- touching pictures stolen by americas mass shooting, the crowd nearby pleading for action join the president today greg abbott which was all about welcomed in open arms. there people jeering to their governor, looking to the president for a fix after years loosening gun laws and the end this crisis expands well beyond texas, it'll take congress to bring about sweeping change, how that happened still up in the air but there is progress according to what connecticut senator chris murphy said today on abc. >> these are serious negotiations, and we're going to continue to me through early next week to find some common ground. now, i've been clear a month and get the perfect enemy of the good. we're talking about red flag laws, for talking about

strengthening and expanding the background checks, we're talking about safe storage and yes, we're talking about mental health resources and more security dollars for schools. a package that really in the end, could have a significant downward pressure on gun violence in this country. and break the law, jim, the most important thing we can do is show that progress is possible, the sky doesn't fall for republicans if they support some of these common sense measures. >> as for the survivors of the shooting, nbc news learned today that three victims remain hospitalized, including a ten-year-old girl who doctors say it's still fighting for her life. also today, official word the federal government will probe how this massacre unfolded, the department of justice says it will review now it's clearly a botched police response. friday, the state admitted it made a series of missteps, as police waited to confront the shooter wasting time that could've saved lives. joining me now nbc news

correspondent, sam brock, sam what are you hearing from the community? >> this doj review that you just mentioned is critical, it's pretty rare, it's something that i think on one hand them out of the federal communist taken this action after a mass shooting,, alicia we're talking about is san bernardino, all orlando nightclub shooting, and they're looking at best practice that will be fixed year. we use the term best practices, people community here are probably not agree with that term, in its holistic sets. that they were best practices that were happening in this case, we know for a fact there were 90 lot force but officials inside the hallways -- elementary school as this was all unfolding. 19 children were also slot -- why do take 47 minutes between 12 three, 12:50 for someone to get the go ahead. federal agents in this case who overrode their guidance, at one into the building to take on the government. there's a little bit of conversation we had earlier today, with community members

who are not just angry but infuriated that they are protesting on a sidewalk, with signs above their head that said enough is enough. take a listen. >> this is scarred for life, this is gonna be with us for the rest of our lives. and it's not gonna get any easier throughout the years it's gonna get harder because the harder in the situation happen and something else happens and some other state. happen and something els >> i should say i'm sorry that's actually the grandfather of one of the ten year old victims, eliahana cruz torres. the grandfather really wants to understand with the police were doing that morning. why was i seeing them on the afternoon as well? why were they protecting them selves when they were kids inside. he said he gave a letter to his daughter and two eliahana cruz

torres's mom. the letter said in god we trust? it should really be in guns we trust, because of the state of the situation. there are more firearms than human beings in the united states currently. the community is trying to figure out how can we do better next time? >> we are talking about so many unanswered questions and adding to their grief and trauma. thank you so much for being with us. of course, you have the department of justice saying -- a botched police response. they admitted they made a serious series of missteps, wasting time and that could've saved lives. congressman, marc veasey, what are the questions you want

people asking? >> i -- obviously they need to find out why the response was slow and why didn't happen. what was the confusion on the scene. we need to have some answers on exactly why they waited so long to respond to go in and take down the shooter. now that doesn't mean that we shouldn't focus on the fact that over the last 20 years, the republicans have really stopped us from passing meaningful gun safety legislations in this country. we need to find out what happened with the response on the scene. we need to hold republicans accountable, because the fact of the matter is because of their inaction, terrorists and murderers and people that don't need guns are able to legally buy them because of their inaction. >> congressman, to that point,

they used an ar-15, which anyone, 18 or older can buy here in texas. i just want to show our viewers. this is an example of an ar-15. this is what we are talking about. governor abbott, another republican downplayed this weapon of war that you are looking at, simply calling it a long gun or a rifle. what say you, congressman? >> at the very minimum, that gun needs to put in the category where pistols currently are. in texas right now, unless you're 21 or older you cannot buy a pistol and so at the very minimum, that needs to be put into the category of the pistol to where someone that young cannot buy one. obviously at 18 years old, and you're going through a lot of different physiological changes, owning an ar-15 is probably not

the right thing to do. and we certainly need to make sure that no one like this killer can ever again legally purchased a gun like this that 18 years of age. it's absolutely ridiculous. >> congressman, this morning's editorial board urging texas republican senator john cornyn to find a middle ground for powerful voices in the republican party from elected officials to cable news host, to the nra, will fight any attempt to move forward on this question. those people in that organization do not represent the great american middle. they enjoyed power because they can rally a political base in primaries, and because they can swim in the almighty dollar to an increasingly extremist cause. make no mistake that most americans would support cornyn if he were to extend himself and finding common ground democratic senators who respect gun rights, but understand those rights aren't unlimited and should not be unregulated.

do you think there is a rule for senate in court senator cornyn to play here? >> i do believe that senator cornyn has a role to play. i want him to be one of the ten votes needed in order for us to advance the background check bills that need to be passed and the red flag law bills. also, alicia, some people are really talking a lot about, is that we need to change our hipaa laws as well. under hipaa, if someone is a threat to themselves or others, they cannot report that individual and have them put into the national database that will prevent them from buying firearms. we need action on that. we need for these practitioners to be able to report that information so that they will know that this person should not buy a gun and needs to happen asap. if you can't report the fact that someone has a mental

illness, what good does it do to have the system? there are several changes that i think our common sense. i mean i mention the background checks. 90% of the american public supports it. it's bigger than the middle ground. you're talking about 90% of the american -- american public supports these extended background checks. that should be easy for the republican party to do. it's going to come a point in time whether you are a democrat or republican where you need to vote and put your country first. it may not be something that is popular in your primary, but you need to put the security of the nation first, and that's what's really leadership is. we need republicans to step up to the plate, because what they're doing right now and what they've been doing in the last 20 years is making america much more dangerous place for school children, our grocery shoppers, for people that are attending my clubs, just hanging out with friends. it's on the republicans watch

that all of these things have happened. >> congressman mark veasey, thank you so much for your time. back with me in uvalde, julián castro. julián, i was struck by something that senator murphy said from this morning. you're talking through specific policies, but the landing point is we have to break the logjam. there is value in and of itself in proving to americans of all political stripes that washington can deliver on this issue regardless of how minimal that delivery is. >> i know we said it a lot, but what you hear here and i'm sure across the country's people want something to change. folks often say that politics is the -- the truth is if you've been watching, for a while there is not been compromise on big issues like this where people have strong, deep feelings.

republicans essentially have been beholden to the nra and to that very vocal and participatory small, but vocal minority in the republican party that determines primary outcomes. having said that, perhaps there are areas where if you combine measures on gun safety with additional resources for mental health, which democrats also like. they've been fighting for mental health resources with state legislatures all the way to washington d.c.. also many for making schools more secure. let's be honest, when you ask parents, one of the first things they say actually is yes, i would like my son and daughter's school to be more secure. now we know that's not the only answer, but it's part of the answer. i think in a reasonable sensible way, it can be. i think sandra murphy recognizes that. they recognize who's going to be progress that's gonna corn

come in the form of a compromise that is effective but limited. >> you and i spent much of the last 48 hours standing here, and there's been a steady stream of people coming through. i watched people grab you and pull you aside for the past 48 hours. i know 50% of them -- >> they think i'm joaquin. >> whether or not they're delivering the message to you or your brother who is a member of u.s. congress, what is it you are hearing about what they want? >> frustration. why haven't things changed? i had one gentleman come up to me and started saying that he's seen all these incidents over the years. this was an older gentlemen. he was almost in tears saying it needed to change. why hasn't it changed? we all gonna do about it? that's generally the sentiment. it's this frustration, this anger, this profound sadness in this community for what happened. they're looking for the president and to the congress.

that's what we've been hearing. >> as you and i talked about what -- republicans benefiting from that frustration and from that sense. all right, you're staying with me, ahead, republicans want to talk about everything except guns. they're telling themselves and others why this time might finally be the moment for change. and later the group trying to combat gun violence by reaching young people nationwide. richard louis is standing by for their big stories we're watching this hour at msnbc. >> thank you, alicia. police are now saying they detained one person of interest after a shooting in chattanooga, tennessee. six people are injured. several groups began shooting at each other around midnight, according to police. they say most of the victims were teenagers or in their early 20's. the death toll in savannah georgia now at five. county officials saying the boats hit each other on the wilmington river. one of the drivers was arrested for voting under the influence.

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armed good guys. [applause] >> it is the same line the national rifle association used a decade ago after the sandy hook shooting that left 21 children dead. the uvalde attack proving the good guys are no match for an ar-15 and went easy gun access can unleash. a new york times is calling this quote, people are law-abiding until the moment they are not. when we allow for the unlimited proliferation of weapons we guarantee that when the switch flips, people will die. nbc's shaquille brewster with the latest on the nra and america's gun divide. >> on this third and final day of the nra convention there was definitely less foot traffic on the insight from gun enthuses here to see the latest version of guns, latest scopes, latest gear. that's at the expo center.

and those outside protesting the very existence of the nra who wanted the convention to either be postponed or canceled. but the passion was still there. the passion you saw on day one with the speakers. with the protesters. you've got protesters saying they want to reform. they say and assault weapons ban, they want universal background check. red flag laws. not only at the state level, but federal state level. he's got people inside saying it's not about the gun, it's about mental health. they say it's about school safety. and we had a listen to some of the conversations that i've been having over the weekend. >> in a state that has taken such extraordinary measures to protect the lives of children who were not born yet, why can't we have equal vehemence about protecting the lives of children who are born? >> it's not about us living guns more than we left children. that is all they see. that gun did not drive to that

school and kill those people. that young man, for whatever reason, he wanted to do evil and he did evil, and he chose an ar-15 to do it with. >> if there is one common theme that i've been hearing in this conversation as both sides say they want something to be done, of course, differences when you look there, but there is also lack of faith that political leaders on both sides can come together to get something off. that lack of optimism that this problem can be solved something that i hear from people who are here attending the convention and those protesting even the existence of the nra. back to you. >> joining me now, activists brittany cunningham, an msnbc contributor and host of the end distracted pus cast. and molly jong-fast, contributor at the atlantic. how do you encounter this that has taken hold of our society. the idea that people, not guns are to blame?

>> [inaudible] >> molly, i'm not able to hear you. i'm going to move over to brittani. i'm going to ask her a similar question. these myths are so seeped into our society. when you see the massacre at the school behind me. there were trained officers on scene with guns and they were not able to stop the shooting. what does that tell you? what's the real solution? >> it tells me that this is deeply cultural. this is not just about a single political party. it's not even about a single weapon of choice. this is about a love of dominance, a love of violence and a love of guns. in order to enact that kind of violence. i had someone say to me on twitter today who does not agree with me on this issue that if the country would just turn back to jesus that he would like of his guns, but until then he's going to hold on. this tells you how nonsensical this kind of culture is, because jesus is perhaps the

world's best known pacifist who was not an armed militia man. yet, somebody is adhering to the idea that she's us would want them to have their air are 15. i think you have to recognize that this culture of violence continues to be perpetuated by a patriarchal culture, and ideal that would promote dominance all across the entire world. the way that america marches into other countries with the same weapons of war. of course those same ideologies are going to proliferate here. the question is, are we going to have the audacity, not just to imagine a world where mass shootings don't happen, but to imagine a world in a country where can violence -- its domestic situations, death by suicide. not in community gun violence, and most certainly not in mass shootings that night clubs are grocery stores or at schools. the question is do we have the audacity to imagine that world? and then the political will to

build it. the only way to get there is if we start with culture change. >> molly, i think we have you back here. your thoughts? >> absolutely 100% right. democrats right now could try filibuster cut out for this. make it up to manchin and sinema. do this ban. the public will is there. people want these they are 15's off the street. the pulling on this is incredibly high. people want the h to buy these guns raised to 21. do it. democrats should be brave. there are supporters who want them to be brave. do a filibuster cut out banned these assault weapons and raise the age to 21. be brave. your constituency wants it. democrats have the power, and they can do it. >> i want to talk about molly's talking about, which is the

filibusters role and i get the frustration. i understand when you talk about the frustration. when you talk about the minority rule is a nice flurry -- explanation for why this has proven to be so difficult is unsatisfactory. but the filibuster plays a big role in why we are here today. >> absolutely, it plays a big role in why we are here today on the issue of gun violence. it certainly is playing a role on the issue of voting rights. it's playing a role on the issue of policing in this country. the filibuster continues to be a tool of minority rule. people who want to hoard and preserve their political power will do so by any means necessary, which means using a tool like the filibuster, not to benefit the most benefit or benefit the majority of americans who want to see gun control in this country, but to benefit themselves and to line up their pockets. if you follow the money you'll see the folks who continue to hold fast to this filibuster to

make sure that what they want, not from their constituents, but for themselves, is the name of the game. i could not agree with molly moore. times are hard already as they are. we are already mourning the deaths and lives of the people in buffalo when the shooting and uvalde happened, and here we are in the midst of a pandemic, and oncoming recession. so much more and people frankly are sick and tired of the same kind of behavior happening in washington. the democrats in particular had an opportunity and i would say a real responsibility in this moment to clearly differentiate themselves from the folks that they oppose, not just through the rhetoric or tweets, not just through the platform to said what they believe, but through actions that show with they're willing to do. everybody needs -- stop at nothing to make sure this happens. if the policy change in the cultural changes that stop the

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three patients, one of you a ten year old in serious condition. joining me now doctor ronald stewart, treated victims at the hospital tuesday, he's a trauma surgeon and share of the department of surgery university of texas health science center in san antonio. sadly responded to the shooting -- five years ago. doctor, thank you so much for being with me, what do want me, our viewers to understand about what that experience was like on tuesday, and what it has been like in the days since? >> well, i guess, i would say from the level one channel summer standpoint when this happened, as you mentioned, we've drills, we've drilled, we've practiced and we had previous experiences -- the things that we had -- in southern springs, to

improving our trauma system, we have a great history of cooperation, communication across our region that counts is 27 square miles, but we set goals to get stuff in education training for everyone, we have a program to give patients whole blood right away, we committed ourselves to developing a regional pool blood program, we can get blood to the scene. those two things were really well, we were successful despite -- we were successful with our whole blood program, we got hole blood to the seed, to the hospital of uvalde, i believe that made a difference at least one of our patients lives. it would've made a difference in survival, and our third action on prevention is

obviously, we failed in that attempt to prevent this tragedy from happening. >> can you help us understand, we talked a lot about how someone who has an ar-15 renders a lot of law enforcement, equipped to handle the challenges ar-15 as a trump search who have who has a routines as a result of an ar-15 and what does that mean when those victims are children. the hike pass -- that the cinematic rifles are all high velocity which creates destructive with thiscreate destructive with

and obviously high blood city projectiles striking small bodies creates a lot of destruction and then of course the high rate of fire and the ability to rapidly reload, those are things -- >> doctor, we've talked a lot about this pandemic about the trauma that medical professionals across this country have been under for you. for the people in your hospital, this was not the first mass shooting they've been exposed to. >> i think it takes a toll. i think we've been mindful. we've done de-briefs. we've been really mindful to

come together as a team. i'm very mindful to, for situations like this, there's a tremendous amount of sorrow, anger, frustration, but to also look at the things that are positive and that went well. i would say that the most amazing team of people from those first ems responders who responded from all across the region immediately, the ability for people to immediately get to the scene. the regional trauma system, and its ability to coordinate that care. to load balance patients. to get them to go to -- our not --

to load bounce those patients, those are just amazingly positive things. it really shows the importance of having organized, regional trauma systems. a system where cooperation and communication save lives. and so, here's a quote from a very old quote from a 500 year -- 500 years ago. he said beautiful and best of all things for those who work for the relief and cure of suffering. from my standpoint, the beauty of the people who responded to save those children and those patients's lives, kudos to that terrific team at the memorial hospital for all they've done and for all they did. as you know, it's a small rural hospital and their response to this was amazing. we are really, really grateful.

i'm grateful for the team of people who came together, and that helps us have resilience and helps us to be able to continue and moving forward, and so kudos to that team. i'm just a tiny part of that team. it really does take an amazing amount of cooperation, communication, to make this work. i'm so grateful for it. our team and the team across the region. >> doctor ronald stewart, thank you so much for being with us. thank you for your expertise and sharing your experience. for our viewers at home, i want to show you images. we have marine one landing in san antonio. from there, president biden will continue on with first lady dr. jill biden to delaware as we have those images we will bring them to you. another senseless massacre at the school and bringing back feelings of grief and a great

sense of failure for people who lived a similar horrific attack. the sandy hook teacher and survivor says quote, the worst part of it is that my students ran out of sandy hook school. they survived the tragedy. they're watching this happen over and over. my generation has let them down. it is a horrible burden to bear. a generation has let them down. we as a nation are struggling for congressional action to prevent another mass shooting. organization is taking a different approach? taking on gun culture and appealing directly to young people? hard >> to live life is to do so fearlessly. each day i will do a little dance. or saying a little song. to be snug is to be safe or not using guns. safety enables us to enjoy concerts by our favorite singers. we gather in our desired places of worship and to eat at our favorite restaurants.

to be snug is to be happy. to be happiest to be snug. s and eugene. safer to not use guns. >> taylor maxwell, director of marketing and communications for project unloaded. julián castro is back with us. why focus on culture, taylor? >> thanks for having me. the fact is project unloaded is working to change not laws, not congress and not talk to adults that'll. we are working directly with young people to try to change their minds on gun violence. young people have gun violence as their number one cause of death in the u.s.. we need to address it through any means possible. we cannot wait for congress to take action. we need culture change as well. >> can you tell me how you came to that theory of change. i find it interesting that there are a lot of you who have done this work for members of this generation. is there a reality point where

you realize yes, there needs to be legislation and yes, there needs to be policy action, but oh my goodness, that is going to require a cultural shift in order to get there. >> yes, 20 years ago most americans believed that having a gun in their home made them less safe. they knew that and that's true. today, most americans have been conned into believing that having a good makes them safer. we need to make sure that americans know that 400 guns in this country has not made it safer. in fact, it's put out our families at greater risk. we know states that have higher rates of gun ownership have more gun violence. homes with a gun have more gun violence. there is a simple answer here. we are safer without guns, and we want to make that message clear to as many americans as possible, starting with the young ones. >> again, for our viewers you are watching president biden, marine one landing in san antonio. there is some sense that he

might speak with us, but it looks as though he has ignored questions. he will not be taking questions. we can continue our conversation. julián, wet is a country with a generation of people who are un-interested in guns? what does that look like? >> we know that there's always going to be gun owners, and we know that people are going to be curious about guns. it's something that we've all grown up with here. but there is so much we can do to make sure that folks know that the risks, that comes with that decision to own a gun. with project unloaded, we are working to bring cultural change to the next generation before they've made up their minds on gun ownership and help them know that there is a risk to owning a gun and puts them and their loved ones that greater risk of harm. >> there is an implicit acknowledgment here, julián, about the work -- to ingrain their ideology into american culture, to make gun ownership synonymous with

freedom. it feels like however long this might be, there is a need for that cultural change. >> yes, it does not happen overnight. it's generational. certainly there are changes that need to be made on gun policy immediately. there's also a cultural shift that needs to happen. who better to lead that then young people who have had to live with the consequences of this in so many ways in their schools, churches, shopping malls? here in uvalde, who have to do these drills of what would happen if the school got shot again? we never would have fathom that in my time. to have that kind of drill. >> you and i are about the same age. we were young people during columbine. we watched it happen. clearly, the grown-ups will fix this by the time we have children. and i watched sandy hook. i was not a mother yet. i thought clearly, before i'm a

mother something will happen. now i'm a mother of two children. we are standing outside of a school with another massacred that's taken place. it feels like time is of essence. >> absolutely. it is. for the young people to those who are firmly in power in the senate, state legislatures, it's on them and all of us to participate. >> taylor, i wonder for you understanding that so much of the effort is about cultural shift, what is your message to legislators on capitol hill in states are like texas? >> i don't know that texas lawmakers are going to listen to me, but i believe that we can change the minds of young people. we know from other public health issues, like take teen smoking, for example. 23% of teenagers smoked cigarettes in the year 2000. now, about 3% of teens smoke cigarettes. that is largely because of the work of cultural campaigns. in that same time period lung cancer dropped 20 points. we think something similar can happen on guns if we are honest about the risks that come with

gun ownership, and make it clear to the next generation that they can make a different choice. we cannot wait for lawmakers to save us. they have not done it yet. >> taylor, thank you so much for being with us. julián, you'll be back in just a minute. uvalde is an american town. a texas town, like hundreds of others, but this community was known for -- will look at what else is ahead tonight on msnbc. >> hey there, i'm ayman mohyeldin tonight on ayman, at a special time of 8 pm eastern. i'm going to speak with naacp president, derek johnson, about the bidens visit to uvalde texas. and how local officials there should be held accountable for their failures. that is tonight eight eastern, right here on msnbc. right here on msnbc. eight eastern,eck in with your team on ringcentral. right here on msnbc. i was thinking like... oh hi, caesar.

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back live with julián castro. we were talking about the history of this town, which of course is so much more than the moment that we were living -- we didn't talk about the role that this town played in the mexican american civil rights movements. huge. >> it played a huge role. five decades ago uvalde, which is overwhelmingly mexican american today, over 70%, had one of the longest walk out in texas history. students at the high school walked out in protest and discrimination against the mexican american community here. the dismissal of a mexican american teachers. to the treatment of the faculty and staff of students who were mexican american. they were protesting and standing up for change, so this is a resilient community that many times before have stood up and challenge the state of texas and the country to live up to its best ideals. so i see in their faces that

resilience, and i hear that spirit in their words, i believe they can serve as an inspiration. to all of us. >> i referenced it a few times, but i really am struck by how there is a line down this block. there has been a line down this block all day of people, families, coming to bring flowers, stuffed animals in this heat, so that they could pay their respects. it's not just folks in uvalde. there are people who are traveling from all over in the state of texas. there was a group of kids. they arranged -- they ranged from 6 to 13. the kids wanted to come and show their support. i thought that that was so sweet. you saw all the gofundme's that have popped up in support of these families? the family of jill garcia and irma, raised two point $6 million. there are still families there

and so much need. your final thoughts? >> i think what we have to stay on it's up to all of us to make sure that this doesn't happen again. that we have it within our power to continue to press, push elected officials to do the right thing. the only way to make change in our democracies to participate. we cannot let this moment convince us that change is not possible, and be defeatist about it. we have to push even harder. >> we have to keep paying attention. people are afraid that people will look away and that the regency will pass. we want to enact real change. julián castro, thank you so much for being with me over the course of the last few days. that's all the time that i have for today. i am alicia menendez. we will see you back here next wednesday 6 pm eastern with more american voices. continue to follow the story, but for now i handed over to my colleague ayman mohyeldin.

hi, ayman? >> hey, alicia. thank you so much again. another day of excellent reporting. eye-opening conversations. once again, trying to remind us all that if anything is going to change it's going to be up to us to make that change possible. thank you and good to see you, my friend. nggood evening to you at home ad welcome to ayman tonight. president biden's trip to uvalde, texas. a message he delivered to devastated families. plus, congressman jones, where he says needs to be done to pass gun control laws in this country. and conspiracy is at the nra convention. are you surprised? the lies, the radical group is pushing to when the gun debate. i'm ayman mohyeldin. let's get started. mohyeldin. let's get started. at the moment