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day. the district police chief made the decision to hold officers back from the robb elementary classroom. the shooter locked himself inside. now we know those officers waited for nearly 80 minutes. it was a terrifying nearly hour and a half for the entire school. here is what one teacher told her students to do when she heard the gunfire. she spoke with our ore morgan chesky. >> i just kept hearing boom, boom, boom. it kept going off for what felt like an eternity. >> reporter: as the gunman walked towards her school, nicole shouted for her kids to hit the floor seconds before glass shattered her classroom. >> i had one student laying on top of me, and i had a bunch of other students right over here by me. i just remember praying, please, god, please, god, keep us safe. >> reporter: she and her
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students managed to get to safety. when she learned as many as 19 officers waited 47 minutes before engaging the gunman, she said this -- where do you believe blame should lie? >> on the person that came in my school and shot at us. that's the person that's to blame. >> the police chief who made the call to they is peter aradando. he was elected to uvalde's city council three weeks ago on a platform of communication and outreach to the community. he was supposed to be sworn in tomorrow, but we have learned that the ceremony has been canceled. joining me now from uvalde is nbc news correspondent sam brock and shaquille brewster. also in uvalde is national reporter dion hampton. and covering the justice department is nbc's julia ansly. the justice department is going to look into this. what should we expect? >> reporter: really what we
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should expect is a report to try to prevent a situation like this from happening again, not so much accountability for the officers involved this time around. this will be the justice department's office of community oriented policing. they are in charge of looking at best practices, training that should happen going forward. looking at whether or not there should be civil rights violations or any kind of criminal referral. this is really what is expected to be in the report. a lot of people asked about the timeline, because it's so -- people are desperate to get answers to the questions you laid out. it could be long, it could be weeks or months. what will matter is if the justice department applies more man power to this report and get the interviews that they need from law enforcement in order to get that report done as quickly as possible. but really it shouldn't be more about looking forward than about looking back. that may be frustrating to a lot of people who think a lot of these officers deserve to be held accountable for waiting as
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long as they did. >> shaq, aradando is the police chief that told officers to hold back. what happened there and why did this swearing in ceremony get canceled? >> reporter: we learned about his role in this shooting last friday as we got that updated timeline from state officials. according to state officials, it was the incident commander. so he decided there was no active threat, and they say he made the decision that it was a barricade situation instead of active shooting, holding back police from going into the classroom. tomorrow was the day we thought we would see him. he was elected to city council just a couple of weeks ago. we thought tomorrow would be the day where he would be sworn in at a previously scheduled city council meeting. but the town manager telling us that meeting has been canceled. so there are many questions that people have about what exactly happened. and they want to hear from him. they want to know what was his
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perspective? that's just something we haven't heard. he hasn't responded to any of their requests. you have in the city here, this is the scene that is growing and has grown over the course of the day. it's one of the memorials in this town. you have people coming from all over to pay their respects. i spoke the a woman who drove about 45 minutes away to lay flowers here. she brought her family and wanted to experience what this was like and talk to her kids and show her kids this feeling of love and community as she described it. i want you to listen to our conversation, because one thing that you continue to hear from many people i'm talking to, it's not just the focus on the victims, but they want to see what happens after this, where does it go from here? >> what would you like to see come out of this? >> absolutely more restrictions. i mean young individual going in and buying two ars, multiple --
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nobody needs that. and i think just -- they even said if somebody has a gut feeling, they can deny them access. so i think that people need to start doing that. they need to start denying people, maybe have a wait period, a longer wait period. i know that this is a controversial subject, but women who try to get an abortion have actually more restrictions than people who try to get guns. >> reporter: people leaning into the controversy, wanting to talk about this and pay their respects. this is the line of people just to get to an area behind me. they're waiting, we saw lines like this at the site of the school yesterday, as people waited for hours in the heat to pay their respects. you're seeing them bring flowers and people break out in spontaneous prayers, having those conversations and talking with them. there's a lot of grief, but there's that anger and that
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desire for more answers to the very obvious questions when you look at the breakdowns and what happened nearly a week ago, kate. >> i was struck by an interview that a couple of reporters, including a couple of reporters did with a man named richard small, who is a lifetime nra member, who owns a lot of guns, if you had asked him about the mass shootings before this, sandy hook, buffalo, he would have said don't do anything at all on guns. but this gentleman has grand kids, and he said that when he looked at one of the victims from uvalde, one of them looked just like his grandson. they could have been twins, he said. and something in him changed. he had an ar-15. he called the local police station in texas and he dropped it off. he said i don't want this thing any longer. it reminds me of what happened. nobody should have this. what i thought was really interesting, he said this is enough. we've got to control this thing. i'm never going to say all guns
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picked up or all that, but the regulations need some serious work, and i just wish the democrats and republicans would find some sort of middle ground here, because i'm just so tired of it. so i wonder, after this shooting, dion, if you're talking to anybody out there whose mind is starting to change a little bit on guns, and who should have what gun? >> reporter: yes. so you make a good point, shaq makes a good point. there are some people here who i spoke to here who said exactly things along those lines. the question is, is it going to be enough? there's a lot of people here who want new restrictions and more restrictions on gun control. the age of a person who can purchase automatic assault rifles. or should there be -- just more restrictions in general. and then there are also people who are staunch supporters of
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the second amendment, who say what happened here is isolated, what happened here in buffalo is isolated. we love to hunt, we're responsible gun owners. so you have people who seem to be here on both sides of the fence. >> it was interesting, richard small also said this, i felt disassociated with it. it seemed like those other massacres, other mass shootings were on mars. it's not going to happen here, he said. and then it did. so that's one person who said it was isolated -- felt it was isolated until it happened close to him and he found some familiarity with one of the children. the families are going to start burying their loved ones, the 19 kids starting tomorrow. walk me through what we can expect. and i also read they're going to need facial reconstructionists, because the shooting was that bad.
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>> reporter: it's the reorientation of the worst nightmare that any family could ever imagine. i've been here for a week now. from the beginning, parents, they say they want honesty, transparency. they want to hear from their elected officials and certainly from the police force involved in uvalde, to explain why the response unfolded the way it did. that's what they want. and now, we're get thing breaking news today about the fact that peter aradando, the police chief for the school district, that city council meeting is canceled. it was going to be held tomorrow. so the one opportunity that we would have had to question public officials and to see what they might say about this tragedy, that's now out the window. i would also note, katie, a pr firm has been hired by the city of uvalde to answer any questions, which haven't been answered any way. so now they're trying to create a buffer zone between the press and city government, even though they haven't answered anything. the last press conference was last friday. so're trying to understand
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when we will get answers to our questions. i spoke with a grandfather of eliano torres, 10 years old. he loved to play softball. her grandfather purchased a glove for her. she loved tiktok, dance videos. we sat down with her cousin and they went through her videos together. it brought a lot of smiles, just a bright light, a shining star that was dimmed, according to her aunt. the grandfather wrote a letter to president biden and gave it to eliana's mother, his daughter. she gave it to president biden. here's what he said was in that letter. >> well, i was, you know, like out here to say we are one nation under god, and really we ain't no more. we're under guns. >> he has power to change it.
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he can do it. he can. and it needs to change, because how many more lives are going to be taken? and another family is going to lose their child or their niece or their cousins. >> two weeks ago, we were playing here, playing here. i bought her a new glove. she never had a chance to use it in a game. >> reporter: these families want accountability. they want action from the president. but the reality, as we know, katie, without an act of congress, you're not going to see ar-15 style weapons taken off the streets like we had in the mid '90s. that's not just going to happen magically. and it's worth noting in 2005 or 2006, plaka was passed by congress, which shields the gun industry from legal liability. can you imagine if that legislation did not exist, what the response would be from the gun manufacturers, every time we had an episode like uvalde, and
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how differently this may play out, if they didn't have that shield? but they do. so expect these conversations to continue, as families here are still trying to process the fact as they bury their loved ones, and it's going to happen in someone else's city next week or the week after that. >> a lot of people will wake up and think, am i going to be next? is my family going to be the next one to go through this? because it is only a matter of when, not if at this point. sam brock, shaq brewster and dion hampton, thank you very much for being with us. i appreciate it. still ahead, he has said the moment to stop the next shooting is now. i'm going to ask the democratic nominee for lieutenant governor of texas what he would do now if he were elected. first up, though, the number of u.s. covid cases are on the rise again. why one doctor says he isn't too worried about it. also, as americans hit the road this memorial day weekend, gas prices hit a record high. how much worse will it get?
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covid cases are rising, but there is reason not to be too worried. recorded cases are about six times higher than this time last year. experts say the actual case count is likely higher, because so many people are using at-home tests. but hospitalizations are only up slightly. and the death rates are the same. so i want to bring in senior scholar for the johns hopkins center for health security. so, doctor, you are seeing all these numbers. they're going up. why are you not as worried as you were last year? >> i'm not so worried, because you have to look at the numbers in context, of where we are in may 2022, versus may of 2021. in terms of what tools do we have to make covid more manageable, in terms of anti-virals, rapid tests, and when you're not seeing hospitals
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overwhelmed with this number of cases, it's a success story. that means we're decoupling cases from hospitalizations which is where we wanted to be. >> some places are reinstituting mask policies. new york city has said people should be masking indoors again. given that the hospitalizations are not on the rise, and given it can be an outpatient treatment with some of the medications that are available, what do you consider, what do you think about masking indoors now? >> i think it depends on a person's risk tolerance. if somebody is at high risk, they should think about masking when cases are high, because there's more likelihood they're going to come into contact with covid-19. or if they live with somebody high risk. for other people, they have to think about what level of risk is acceptable to them and how much are they trying to avoid a virus which most of us will get infected with multiple times.
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so we have to calibrate our mask policies based on each individual's willingness to take risks. it's not going to be one size fits all. >> so a lot of people are asking themselves this as they get it, they find out they have covid, they take a home test, what should you do once you found out? should you isolate from your family? at what point do you become less contagious? we know this about a lot of viruses. do we know this about covid? >> we have a general idea. if you test positive, the first thing you should ask yourself, could i benefit from a drug like paxlovid? do i need antibody this is that's the first thing. but you should be isolating. you should. infect other people in you test -- shouldn't infect other people if you test positive. if you look at studies, people don't necessarily infect many people after day six. but wear a mask at that point until you get to that ten-day period. you can use home tests to be
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able to engage when your contagiousness decreases. and most people will test negative around day six, day seven. and you can start to think about that with your test result. so we have enough data to do this and people can be empowered to manage their own isolation periods. >> what are the chances we'll see another variant come fall? >> 100%. we're always going to see new variants from covid-19. it comes from a family of viruses that are endemic respiratory viruses. so we'll continue to see more mutations occur that get better at infecting us, but those viruses will contend with the population, there's a lot of immunity that protects us against serious disease. but this isn't going anywhere. and we're going to continue to have covid-19 cases for probably the existence of the human species. they're just going to become
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milder and more like the other coronaviruses. >> so it's recommended every year we get a flu shot. the flu shot gets calibrated for the next season's flu. should we expect the same thing to start happening for covid? >> i think it's too early to know. it goes back to our goals. our first vaccines are holding up really well against serious disease, hospitalization and death. i do think they could use an update now because of omicron, because they're not really at blocking infection for a long period of time. what we need to continue to shuffle them every year oh 18 months or two years remains to be seen. but i think the overarching goal has to be relying on these vaccines to prevent serious illness, and they're still doing really well. really different than the flu updates, which flu is a very different virus with different genetic characteristics. >> doctor, thank you for coming on and giving us the context for these cases going up.
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i know the headline can seem scary, but there are vaccines and treatments, therapeutics, and hospitalizations are not really going up in a commensurate way. same with days. it gives a lot of people good piece of mind going into the holiday season. thank you very much. millions of americans hit the road for the holiday, despite record shattering prices at the pump. why the runaway costs have not slowed down memorial day travel. first, though, are minds changing in texas? a texan running for office tells us what he would do about guns. welcome to your world. your why. what drives you? what do you want to leave behind? that's your why. it's your purpose,
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what would you do right now if you had the authority? >> well, i would do what needs to be done. i've been hearing from democrats and republicans. it's the same conversation that we had four years ago when there was a similar killing in santa fe high school here in texas. we must have a back ground check system that works. we must have red flag laws. there must be a 48-hour waiting period before you can buy an ar-15. we must raise the age to 21 to buy one. and we must invest in resource officers in our schools and in counselors. those are the things that we know we have to do. we have three months to do it. it can only be done if the legislature comes back into session. and i just want to say this. after the santa fe high school shooting four years ago, we said very, very strongly, do these things or it will happen again. if it happens again, children will die. there will be blood on your hands. that's exactly what happened.
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and texans know this needs to be done and done now. >> the argument from republicans in texas with twofold. one, there should only be one entrance into a school and two, this is a mental health issue and there needs to be more money into helping kids mentally. are those two things worth pursuing? >> they're saying it because they're trying to change the subject, because they will not go into the legislative session and do anything about guns because they're terrified of the gun lobby. in the four years since santa fe, the only thing that's been done has been to cancel the only gun safety laws that we had on the books. we used to have a permit to carry a hand gun. they passed a law so that university presidents could not prevent students from carrying guns on campus. they'll do everything they can to think of to change the subject. and they are wrong, wrong, wrong. >> why do you think it's so controversial for texas leaders to raise the age limit from 18
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to 21 to buy an assault weapon? >> i'm glad you asked that question, because in texas, you can't buy a beer at 18. you can't buy cigarettes at 18. but yet you can buy a machine designed to kill human beings and walk into a school. it's easier to do that in texas than it is to buy a fishing license. the political leaders that run this plate, i'm talking about dan patrick, let me be very clear, dan patrick, the lieutenant governor, has worked aggressively to block even the slightest suggestion of gun laws in the state. i know from talking to legislators, democrats proposed reasonable gun laws, and republicans were lining up behind it, until they heard from dan patrick, who said you stop this, or i'm going to get even with you. and they're afraid of him. the problem in texas is dan patrick, and he's got to go. >> what about buying ammunition?
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this shooter was said to have bought more than a thousand rounds of ammunition. should there be a flag in the system when somebody tries to buy that much ammunition? >> i think there's no question about it. it's all in the same piece. here you have an 18-year-old kid, who, by the way, had a nickname in social media, school shooter. he turns 18, buys two ar-15s and 1600 rounds of ammunition, and nobody says or does a thing and doesn't care. and then we wake up the next day and find out that 20 children have lost their lives. it's outrageous. when i think in terms oh of a background check system that works, age limits, waiting periods, it includes the machine and the ammunition, the whole package. otherwise it's going to keep happening. >> what about body armor, why does a civilian need body armor? >> i don't know. i have heard that's part of the problem and we should look at
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it. i haven't studied it. we need to think about it. but i'm focused like a laser beam. and texans, democrats and republicans are with me. it's so important to point that out. we can act and act now and we must act now. but we have to have the right political leadership. >> you came within four points of unseating lieutenant governor dan patrick in 2018. do you think times have changed enough to get you the advantage that you need? >> yes. i say that for all the wrong reasons. you run around the state and talk to texan and ask them are we in a better place than four years ago? the answer is absolutely not. texans are looking for somebody to bring leadership and bring sensible laws back and sensible thought process and stop chasing these culture wars, which in and of itself is terrible. vilifying trans kids as they have done. but texas wanted somebody to
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solve a problem, and the problem we have is texans are killing texans. so we're ready for a change. >> in florida, after the parkland shooting, the republican governor at the time instituted red flag laws, despite the pressure from the nra. he banned gun sales to those under 21. it happened in florida. lots of lawmakers who get a lot of nony from the nra. why can't it happen in texas? the nra is not quite as powerful as it once was. >> it can happen in texas. i'm delighted the nra has less power. i am not taking any money from those guys. it can happen in texas. the problem is the leadership at the very top. the lieutenant governor, and it's important to point out, texas is unique in this regard, the lieutenant governor is not like a vice governor in waiting. the lieutenant governor is the president in the senate with more power over the legislative process than any other single individual. i know from talking to democrats and republicans alike, that the legislature wants to act on these problems, they don't want
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to see children killed. but they can't move forward because of one individual, dan patrick. that's why we has to go. >> mike collier, thank you very much for joining us. we appreciate it. >> thank you. coming up, the feeling of jubilee is about to hit the uk. and who couldn't use a little jubilee right now? also, why china's latest covid lockdown could mean economic trouble for the united states. ted states ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ homegrown tomatoes...nice. i want to feel in control of my health, so i do what i can.
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across the country today, thousands of flights have been canceled, and it's only 3:38 on the east coast. because of staffing shortages on the airlines and potential for severe weather. joining us now is gadi schwartz in los angeles. you're at a gas station. lots of folks on the road today despite insane gas prices. what is it at where you are right now?
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>> reporter: you don't even want to know. around the country, it's like $4, a little more than $4. here in california, the average is $6.15. this one is $6.19. across the street, another one that's $6.19. so well over the national average. if californians could get gas for like $4 a gallon, there could be a traffic jam a mile long here. these are the prices we're seeing in los angeles and across california. one of the things that people are asking about, no matter how many times they hear explanations from experts, why is it so much more expensive here than in california? and why is gas continuing to be on this upward trajectory if we have tapped into the national reserves and there are all these other things put into place to alleviate this? the answers are many. the experts here in california say one, the reason why it's more expensive here is about $1.50 of this goes to regulation fees and taxes.
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it's the highest taxed gas in the country. but beyond that, all across the country, those gas prices are reflecting two major things right now. one is the war that's happening in ukraine, and then the other is a surge in demand. after two years of people being stuck inside, the worst of the pandemic for many people appears to be over. so a lot of them have been heading out. this was supposed to be the beginning of the summer travel season. and what they found at the gas station were prices like this. so this is not something that we're likely to see subside overnight. it's going to be months of this. so the last time we saw travel this much, or this high, was 2017, 2018. and back then, gas prices were $2 to $3 less than they are right now. >> i know you're talking about cars, at a gas station, talking about just the cost of driving. but our planner says thousands of flights canceled during the holiday weekend.
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some might be saying what about the flights? so what about the flights? >> reporter: yeah, worldwide, we saw over 6,000 flight cancellations. and really it's just this perfect storm of a lot of different things. and one of the biggest linchpins is this staffing shortage that we have seen among pilots. remember, during the pandemic, they saw a reduction of people flying on airplanes. at some points, up to 80%, 90%. so there was this scale down of a lot of the staffing, a lot of the pilots were offered early retirement so they weren't on the payroll. so you saw the staffing go tremendously down all across the airline industry. and then all of a sudden, this weekend, the start of the summer, we're starting to see some of the most travel we've seen over the last two to three years. so the surge ramps back up, there aren't enough pilots to man those planes. so unfortunately, you're seeing a lot of delays, then when you
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have weather, the domino effects are felt across the country. >> thank you for explaining why there's a pilot shortage. i don't think i've heard that yet. thank you so much for being with us. you are a terrific reporter. gas prices, inflation, insteady markets. experts say those problems could get worse as lockdowns in china threaten supply chains. officials warn of a china time bomb as disruptions have an effect here in the united states. in shanghai, the financial hub, officials are considering lifting lockdowns after nearly two months. it had all been part of president xi jinping's zero covid policy, where he was instituting lockdowns across china to make sure the cases went down. didn't work. let's go to our friend from npr. robin, thanks for being with us. and you're the most of public raid you's "full disclosure."
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>> that's right. >> so i was on the phone with the white house a couple days ago talking about the baby formula crisis and when that would be alleviated. they were telling me that there's about to be a big issue with the supply chain. things were looking like they were getting back to normal, but that was partially because there were so few giant ships, container ships leaving from shanghai. once shanghai gets reopened, they were warning it could look like quite a mess again. so tell me what we can expect for the summertime months. >> it speaks to this economy's broader dilemma, do you want it to heat up or cool down? because if china on balance, if this lockdown in shanghai slows the demand for oil, you saw that print of $6.15 in los angeles, i mean, you talk about sticker shock. but if the chinese slow down, maybe it slows the federal reserve's handing. but if the chinese come out of
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the gate and demand again and exporting and you have more of a possibility for a global economy to overheat and indulge, and inflationary pressures. >> umm, can you give me some good news? all i talk about are these giant, intractable problems. and it's been such bad news lately. i feel like me alongside some of the viewers might need to look forward to something. do you have anything? >> stocks interrupted a seven-week losing streak. i think it was eight weeks on the nasdaq or the dow. so that is on the margin good news. but we have had many bear market rally it is you look at the history of bear markets. and i know this is like telling you to take your bitter medicine. but cheaper stocks should be good news. if you have a child in a 529, looking to invest, the market is giving you an opportunity. if real estate prices are falling because you see regional corrections, that is good news.
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everything shouldn't always be at an all-time high. so paradoxically, warren buffett says i'm fearful when others are greedy, and i'm greedy when others are fearful. >> a 529 for those of you might not know, is an education savings account that goes tax free for saving for education, as long as it's used for education. let me ask you about the forgiveness of $10,000 of college debt being floated by the white house. >> it was received with a broad meh. i think by the time all of this gets through the razor thin margins in the senate and everything else that happens whether it's done by executive order or fiat or the pushback from libertarians, it will be like a $50 gift card to office max for stationery. the progressive wing wants much more robust debt forgiveness,
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and others crying this will be a giveback to those who are already decidedly white collar. so he is, biden, in a damned if you do, damned if you don't position. >> a lot of people are taking out loans for those higher education programs and will be saddled with debt. just because you're going to law school doesn't menu're raking in the dollars. >> it shouldn't be controversial, right? it's a great -- ppp wasn't controversial. i mean, this is such a polarized time. i don't have to tell you, they will pounce on anything. >> it didn't cost as much when boomers were going to college. you could pay for it by waiting tables. robin, thank you so much. or at least a good portion of it. and the competitive relationship the u.s. has with china goes beyond the economy.
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tom costello is getting a look, talking to expects about the competition and conflict that could arise out of this world. take a look at how space is rapidly turning into a potential conflict zone. >> reporter: the pentagon says china's space program is now outpacing the u.s., with more than 60 launches in 2022. building a remote robotic post on the far side of the moon, invisible to u.s. satellites. and u.s. generals worry beijing could deploy satellites and offensive weapons in the space between the earth and the moon. >> we need to understand both in the lunar space and the space between the earth and the moon, what are they doing? why are they doing it? does it pose a potential threat to our interest? >> military spacecraft in a very
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well designed trajectory can raise awareness. >> reporter: she insists lunar space could have strategic superiority. >> it can enable a person or entity to be in a location. >> reporter: it's why space force has bipartisan support in congress and a growing budget. >> we have to remember, space has already been weaponized by china and russia. we have to defend our assets. and we've got to be more aggressive in doing so. >> reporter: in the coming years, the u.s. is preparing to launch a satellite to monitor chinese activity. and commercial satellite operators are expected to add their eyes to the space domain, hoping to gain the high ground advantage. >> gosh. the news gets better and better. battlefield space is available to stream right now on peacock. coming up next, the uk is just
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preparations after a weekend of rehearsals led by prince william to celebrate an icon and a historic ♪♪ ♪♪ >> queen elizabeth, the first british royal to reach a platinum jubilee, marking 70 years of service, but her first-born son will share the spotlight, slowly, the public is being prepared for his ascension to the throne. so the queen's platinum jubilee, i interviewed contributor mcandrew from the new podcast, born to rule. it is about him becoming more than just an heir. it is about him becoming a monarch in waiting about him looking like he's useful and purposeful and he's for something, stands for something. prince charles stepping in for her at the traditional opening of parliament earlier this month, providing the world with a glimpse of what's to come. >> my lord, pray be seated.
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>> it's likely that the queen won't be able to do as much in decades past so we will see prince charles step in more and more. >> the queen is 97, experiencing mobility issues and using a walking stick and riding a queenmobile, an adapted vehicle for the first time last week. she will never step aside, but one day the world will witness a new monarch, king charles. what kind of king will he be? a question many british people are askinga the era of elizabeth ii comes to a close. >> who are we? what do we stand for? what is modern britain? what do we want now? do we want charles? do we want a monarchy? all these questions, i think, are going to swirl around. >> while the queen is cherished, charles is not the most beloved of royals. >> he's nowhere near as popular
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as his mother. >> maybe best known around the world as the man who married princess di an a a fairy tail wedding that may have been doomed from the beginning. >> are you in love? >> of course. >> and for their acrimonious divorce and diana's tragic deaths. ever since, he has tried to improve his image, ultimately marrying camila who the queen herself says will be queen one day. they will stand with her majesty on the buckingham palace balcony this week. >> there are publicity events and pr opportunities and an opportunity to remind the public, and to remind the world that the royal family is still there, that the royal family has a future. charles has been waiting to be king since most of us can remember. >> i, charles, prince of wales
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♪♪ ♪♪ good afternoon, and thank you for joining us on this memorial day. i'm stephanie ruhle. president biden marked this day of remembrance by laying a wreath at the tomb of the up known soldier at arlington national cemetery. he began the day at delaware with a visit to the grave of his late son beau biden who died seven years ago of this very day been it has been a weekend of mourning for many, many families across the country. on saturday vice president harris was in buffalo, new york, for the funeral of ruth whitfield, one of the ten people killed in a mass shooting at a grocery store on may 14th. yesterday the president and first lady were down in uvalde, texas, where they mefoho


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