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behave themselves and then, of course, on the balcony, louis didn't quite manage to behave himself, didn't seem to enjoy the flyover and the balcony that launched 1,000. >> always incredibly amazed by the composure and behavior of those children. my kid would be jumping out of that carriage immediately. so good on that. and what day to be celebrating in london. as always, my friend good to see you. thanks for joining us. be sure to check out keir new bod cast "born to rule: when charles is king." andrea mitchell picks things up right now. good morning, everyone. this is "andrea mitchell reports" in washington with new details on yet another tragic and deadly mass shooting. we're expecting a press conference in tulsa, oklahoma,
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this hour one day after police say a gunman killed four in a hospital building before turning the gun on himself. investigators are warning to determine the motive and believe the shooter entered the building with a specific target in mind. in texas, the uvalde community holding more funeral services for loved ones killed in last week's mass shooting. as a bipartisan group of senators led by democrat chris murphy of connecticut say they are making progress on potential gun safety legislation. >> our hope is we're going to be able to produce something for our colleagues next week. i think everyone in the senate, even a few exceptions, have been moved by what has happened in the last week, and feel a real political imperative to get something done. >> and this hour, president biden will be meeting with nato secretary-general stoltenberg to discuss the upcoming nato summit in spain and the war in ukraine as president zelenskyy says russian forces now occupy fully
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20% of his country. in a more celebratory mood we take to you london to join the global celebration of queen elizabeth on the buckingham palace balcony to enjoy her platinum jubilee. we begin this hour with the mass shootings in uvalde and now in tulsa. joining me, vaughn hilliard in tulsa and nbc's priscilla thompson in uvalde, texas. vaughn, first to you. law enforcement speaking shortly in oklahoma about the shooter, the investigation now under way. >> reporter: andrea, we're awaiting details any moment now here in tulsa. we know there were four civilians killed last night here by a gunman who also killed himself upon inflicting gunshot wounds. this is a situation in which the authorities say the gunman had two weapons on him. one was a, it was a firearm.
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another was a rifle here. the exact aspects of this rifle are not known here at this time, and that that is what we are hoping to get a better sense of information from law enforcement. again, a situation, you're talking oklahoma. a state where back in 2020 the governor signed into law what is, called an anti-red flag law, which would prohibit any local municipalities from being able to implement red flag laws which would allow in the situation in which a family member, another individual, were to raise concerns in the specter of, that a particular individual may pose a threat to themselves or others, that law enforcement could go and take possession of those firearms. we do not know the current and exact situation about this particular individual, or what the exact aspects of that rifle were, but what we do know is that this individual entered the second floor of this saint francis hospital, a sprawling
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complex, yesterday afternoon. law enforcement has said he was, it was not a random act of violence. instead, targeting one specific area. this is an orthopedic center here. whether particularly targeting one individual is not known, but unlike inuvalde, we know the response time from police was quite different here. the police say that just three minutes after 911 calls started coming in police respond and within three to four minutes able to reach the gunman before, again, they believe that he ultimately died of self-inflicted gunshot wounds, andrea. >> they responded and they ran right inside, without wasting any time at all. vaughn hilliard a big change from what we saw in texas. thank you to vaughn and now to texas. priscilla, another painful day there in uvalde. tell us what services are being held today and also the latest on the controversy over the chief, arredondo. >> reporter: yeah, andrea. today the lives of el ana tore
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hesse, miranda mathis and nevaeh bravo remembered along with visitations held for three of the other children that were killed last week, and as those services are happening not far from here, people continue to come to this memorial to pay their respects and grieve with this community, but as that grieving is happening, there are still questions, so many questions, that remain about this investigation, and, of course, the police chief here and his role in all of this. the department of public safety saying earlier this week he has not responded to their requests for a follow-up interview in days. the chief yesterday saying that he's in touch with the department of public safety every day, though not stating specifically whether he has or has not responded to a specific interview request. i should point out nbc news has reached out to the police chief and we have not heard back from him, and it now, the mayor and
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the school district are speaking out. the mayor saying that if his officers weren't cooperating, why wasn't he notified, if that was the case, and the school district saying their officers are fully cooperating with state investigators, and as all of that is playing out here at the state capitol, governor greg abbott calling for a special legislative committee. that committee has been formed. it includes eight republicans and three democrats, though notably, the state senator who represents this district, senator gutierrez, not on that list of senators sitting on that committee, but we expect hearings for that committee to begin later this month after the services have taken place with the expectation that families of those victims will be allowed to come and give testimony if they choose to do so. andrea? >> thank you, priscilla. our thanks, of course, to vaughn hilliard, joining us, former assistant director
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forecounterintelligence. frank, before we get to the press conference coming shortly from tulsa i want to play just for emphasis the deputy chief of their police department last night describing the speed of their response. >> there was a three-minute response. so i don't know how long the call took to come in, but it appears as though the whole thing was a four minute or so -- time span, from the time it came in until the time officers made contact. four to five minutes. the response, i cannot overstate how proud i am of the area response to this incident. >> obviously, frank, a very different situation than in texas. >> yeah. a swift response, andrea, which they should be credited for and moving right up to the second floor of the building where the gunshots were coming from. exactly what you should do with an active shooter to engage them. i must point out the significant distinction between here in
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tulsa and in texas, it appears a suicidal shooter. so this individual apparently decided either well ahead of time or at the moment he was confronted he would end his own life, that ultimately put an end to it. sounds like officers were right there, would have ended it either way, but i have to say, we are, we have to make that distinction between and active shooter who's decided he is going to end his life if conferred, or done his mission, and someone else who's going to continue on and try to take as many lives as possible. the other distinction, this looked like a very targeted killings. he had some, some beef with some one or some thing in this office on the second floor. it's a little bit different than randomly deciding, i'm going to shoot up an elementary school which is not making sense to many people at all. >> i was wondering, is the big difference also, tulsa, a big city. perhaps a better trained police
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department than uvalde? even though we know in texas they had done active shooter trainings just a few months ago? so they had been briefed. they knew the playbook. they just ignored the playbook. >> right. tulsa is a completely different animal than the police department in uvalde. much more active larger city, large, sophisticated police department. no stranger to violence, to shootings. can put out a massive response quickly and, yes, training makes a difference. i'm making a distinction between academic teaching, classroom. someone can tell you in a classroom you're supposed to go in, engage, go with what you got. don't stop. that's great, but if you don't have the money or resources to do that physically in a shoot house, stacked up over and over again with your fellow officers, if never becomes instinctive. it never accomplished what's called "fear extinction." exposed to this stimuli so
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often, that you just act through muscle memory. that requires physically doing it over and over again. that requires usually a large department or a department with lots of resources and money. >> how important is it for the initial responders to have the equipment that a s.w.a.t. team has? we know that when the border patrol arrived they had the shields. they could move in a stack. what they call a stack, which you guys, in terms of framing do. whereas the first responders in texas, they were just raiseds -- i say that, easy for me to say, just raised so there were two guys, at least two guys injured, and then they all backed off, it seems. those 19 that were in the hallway? >> yeah. i predict this is going to become a central point in the doj review and dps review which is, what is the availability of breaching tools, a shield, all of the various tools used to breach, including shotgun
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breaching rounds. where is that? is grant money needed for small towns to put that equipment in at least one patrol car on every shift? i know plenty of police department whose have at least one car on every shift, even small towns, that have all of that equipment. most importantly, where's the master key to that classroom? i know police departments, small towns, the sergeant on every shift has master key to the schools. this going to be the core. why did it take so long to get into that classroom? why did you decide this was a barricade? why didn't you have equipment to go in? then radio coms are going to come up. i heard an interesting clip of the mayor of uvalde last night, which was, he was asked about 911 calls. right? why would you be in a barricade situation and think there's no longer a threat with an active 911 call, calls coming in from kids? his response, something like, we didn't hear those calls. if that's true, and if that's
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true for the on-scene commander inside that school, something went horribly wrong with radio coms inside that building. >> i was wondering that myself. it doesn't take a lot of hardisoning money to have a master key. thank you very much, frank . today the house judiciary committee planning to vote on safety bills hoping to reach the full floor vote by next week. the key issue is in the senate, of course. a bipartisan group says it's making progress towards a compromise proposal that could pass the senate and get 60 votes. joining us, ali vitali, and susan paige, and michael steele from republican national chairman, former lieutenant governor are maryland and msnbc political analyst. ally, to you, a democratic-aid -- democratic aide saying they're lying on hoe-hanging fruit? >> reporter: in many cases parts
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of this package as far as we know aren't even on the table in the senate negotiations. while this democratic aide is saying that this package of gun bills is low-hanging fruit for them to solve this problem as they see it, when we talk to republicans who were going into this house judiciary meeting this morning, it's very clear they are not even close to wanting to compromise. of course, in the house, they don't need republicans to compromises. they can largely move the package forward on its own. the question, what happens when it reaches the senate? that's the critical piece for all of this. those senate negotiations are happening on their own track. there is different groups of republicans and democrats who be meeting in one smaller group. it includes senator chris murphy and republican senator john cornyn blessed by senate minority leader mitch mcconnell to go forward in these. of course, it's really a moment where this entire building is grappling with something in that the chairman of the house
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judiciary committee asked for you this morning, and i'll play that question for you, andrea. >> it is not even been 24 hours since the last mass shooting and who knows how long until the next one. too soon? my friends, what the hell are you waiting for? >> reporter: it's a question i have heard other lawmakers ask in this moment when we keep seeing these tragic mass shootings coming one after another at a really harrowing pace, and, of course, it's the central question that the people in this building are grappling with. they're on recess right now but come back in town next week. it's why the judiciary committee is meeting in an emergency session today. so they can have the pieces in place to send this package of bills to the rules committee on tuesday and then later to the full house floor on wednesday or thursday. trying to do things quickly even if it means hitting a brick wall in the senate, as the senate deliberates, andrea. >> and not coincidentally chairman of the judiciary
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committee in the battle for his life against a fellow democrat in redistricting. michael steele, what policies, if any, do you see republicans, john cornyn, a/k/a mitch mcconnell, accepting? >> right. well, look. mcconnell has set the standard and given it to his lieutenant in cornyn to go and negotiate over school safety, and, you know, other things that are unrelated to guns. and so it's a very narrow conversation that he wants to have. so you're going to have republicans talking about apples and the deaths talking about oranges. unfortunately for the republicans, the significant part of this is the orange. it's not -- it's about the guns. it's about access to the guns. about who has access to the guns, when they should have access to those guns, and the narrative, which the democrats have been very careful about, andrea, is not around gun
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control, but gun safety. school safety. and so mcconnell wants to talk about mental health, and the like, where democrats want to talk about, how do we curtail the violence that we see unfolding in our communities, especially in our schools? and that does not broker well for a deal, because as ally just noted, the senators, republican senators, are really playing to a very narrow constituency. in fact, a constituency of one. mitch mcconnell. playing to a narrower constituency, nra and votes and money they bring and he doesn't want this to become a major hiccup for them on the way to taking back the senate this fall. >> susan paige, the speaker, speaker of the house, eventually will have to have a hearing on an assault weapons ban that's not come up in either the house or senate, because it's not going to pass.
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so is this a political symbolically political statement from the speaker? >> what she said yesterday, bring it up for hearing and markup. not for a vote. speaker pelosi is not inclined to bring these up to vote unless she can pass them. let me just say, you know, for decades and more we have been, congress flummoxed acting against gun violence even after these terrible shootings one after another. i think there are some signs of some shift in the senate. at least on some measures. on a red flag law we see some m republicans they would support that, also involving tightening some background checks. i think it is possible that congress will be able to do something, even if they can't do everything, everything wants. >> and we have to jump to the news conference in tulsa. this is the police chief.
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we at the tulsa police department, we grieve with the families after this senseless tragedy. we grieve with the co-workers, and we pray. we pray, because we all need prayer. i cannot begin to thank the men and women of the tulsa police department for the immediate response that they had to the incident yesterday. our training led us to take immediate action without hesitation. that's exactly what officers do, and that's what they did in this instance. they had the right mind-set framed and went in to action and did a tremendous job.
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the other first responders that came to the scene, the tulsa fire department, oklahoma highway patrol, tulsa county sheriff's office, the saint francis security team, the federal bureau of investigation, loll, tobacco and firearms, the united states marshal service, tribal police and other federal and local agencies all responded and ascended upon 61st and yale yesterday. this was not done -- this was a coordinated effort. it was not done haphazardly. i also have to thank the dispatchers and calltakers at our 911 center that reacted as they were trained. law enforcement across the nation is dealing with increased violence among people.
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this is yet another act of violence upon an american city. i will say that as a tulsa police officer, we train, we train, and we train, and we train for instances such as this. and i'm overwhelmed and proud of the men and women, all those that responded yesterday. now, i want to take some time and go over the timeline with you as we know it today. this information is fluid and can still change, but it is the most accurate information that we have at this point. before i do that let me -- let me go ahead and provide the names of the victims. and i will allow saint francis to elaborate more on those
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victims. we have dr. preston phillips. dr. stephanie houson, amanda greene, william love, and our suspect, michael lewis. on may 19th, michael lewis went in to the hospital for a back surgery. the performing physician was dr. preston phillips. mr. lewis was released on 5/24, may the 24th. after release, lewis called several times over several days complaining of pain, and wanted
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additional treatment. on may 31st, dr. phillips saw mr. lewis again for additional treatment. yesterday, june the 1st, lewis called dr. phillips' office again complaining of back pain, and wanting additional assistance. now, we know through the help of our atf and their gun tracing that at 2:00 p.m. on june the 1st, mr. lewis purchased a semiautomatic rifle from a local gun store. that semiautomatic rifle was an ar-15-style rifle. we know that mr. lewis purchased
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a semiautomatic handgun, a .40 caliber smith & wesson pistol on may the 29th from a local pawn shop. i now want to go into the shooting timeline. at 4:52 p.m. on june the 1st, a third party who was on a videochat off location with an on-location doctor called 911 saying that the doctor told her to call 911 saying that there has been a shooting. at 4:53 p.m., we received a 911 call about a shooter in a building. we then continued to receive multiple calls that were more
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specific on a shooter being on the second floor of the natalie building on the campus of saint francis hospital. at 4:55 p.m., a person called and clarified the natalie building as the scene of the shooting. the first tulsa police officers arrived one minute later at 4:56 p.m. i want to give some context on the natalie building. the natalie building is a five-story medical office building with numerous offices, rooms, hallways and so forth. it is an exceedingly complex environment. a tactical situation for an officer to deal with is pretty complex. officers entered the building on the first floor and made their way to the second floor based on the information they received. while on the second floor of the
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building officers began yelling "tulsa police." this is something that we train to do. as officers were calling out "tulsa police," and advancing towards a suspect location, they heard a gunshot. we believe that was the final gun shot with the suspect taking his own life. the gunshot was at 4:58 p.m. approximately 39 seconds after the first officers entered the building. as officers started to clear the building they came across a victim that was down in the exam room. officers requested amsa to the floor, and continued searching for the suspect. this victim later died at the hospital. we found the suspect, and we
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rescued a female who was hiding under a desk at the suspect's foot. she was there when the suspect took his life. she did not appear to be injured. officers rescued that victim, who was hiding under a desk, but officers also located another deceased victim next to the shooting suspect. officers continued to search the building for victims or additional suspects and came across another victim that was located in an other area near a nurse's station. at this point officers began directing first responders, emis a and fire to render first aid, and again, something we work cooperatively with and we go into what we call a hot environment with medical personnel and fire personnel and start rendering aid. in that same room, there was,
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the victim was at, officers also rescued an elderly female that was in the room. as officers continued to clear the building, they located dr. phillips decease in an exam room. as officers continued to clear the building, they removed multiple witnesses and victims and escorted them from the building. as more officers arrived on scene, we began a methodical search of each of the stories of the five-story structure looking for witnesses and/or victims. thus far we have recovered 30, .223 casings from the crime scene. we have also recovered 7 .40 caliber casings from the crime scene. we have also found a letter on
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the suspect, which made it clear that he came in with the intent to kill dr. phillips and anyone who got in his way. he blamed dr. phillips for the ongoing pain following the surgery. at 5:24 p.m., we received a call from the cherokee county sheriff's office and that dispatcher told us a woman on the line whose name they did not have called saying that her husband had killed several people at dr. phillips' office. this would have been a half hour after the event occurred. we received two follow-up phone calls from the cherokee county sheriff's office providing clarifying information. all of this information was after the fact. once the scene was secure, the tulsa police homicide and crime
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scene detectives began working the scene. they continued work until 3:00 a.m. this morning. we have now turned that scene back over to the hospital staff at saint francis. i cannot emphasize enough that we train rigorously over and over and over again for not "if" but "when," because, we have seen the violence that has taken place throughout the united states, and we would be naive not to think that that would not happen in our jurisdiction. so, again, to the men and women of the tulsa police department, oklahoma highway patrol, all of the surrounding jurisdictions that descended upon the scene yesterday, i offer a heartfelt thanks, and i hope that each and
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every citizen that sees an officer today thanks an officer today, because this job is hard. it is difficult. >> chief franklin -- i had an opportunity to walk through the clinic this morning and i did that for two reasons. one of which so i could see it for myself, more than just the lobby, which is where i was last night, but also so i could do one thing which is that i represent over 10,000 people that make up this saint francis health system and i prayed over each of the areas where it was clear that someone, someone had laid, including the perpetrator.
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and i, last night, sent a message to our staff, and i just asked them to do two things. one of which is to, to ask questions, because there are 1,000 questions that we're going to, we're going to need to try to answer over the next couple of days, the next couple of weeks. probably the next couple of months. but i also asked them to acknowledge that yesterday will change saint francis, and it is up to us to not allow this horrible event, this situation, we can't allow that to make us want to turn our back on the reason that we're here. we were all called into this profession, whether you're a physician or a caregiver or a support staff, we were all called into this profession to
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care for others and to care for our community. and while it's human nature to want to turn our backs right now and to want to walk away, we can't do that, and we won't do that. and so all i ask is for you to just to continue to, to support this organization and this community with your, with your prayers, and know that -- and know that saint francis will be, will come out of this even stronger still. >> i'm struggling with the right things to say in this moment, and maybe that's because there truly is not any right thing to say. there's no words that can adequately describe the emotions that we have been feeling for the last 18 hours. i'm just going to speak from my
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heart this morning. so i hope you'll bear with me. first, to the families of our colleagues, who were killed. our hearts break for you. in addition to my administrative role as the associate chief medical officer i'm a practicing emergency physician and i had lunch with dr. phillips on tuesday. we work closely with our orthopedic team in the emergency department and i know that all of my colleagues went into medicine to help people. this was their calling. as dr. robertson said this isn't just a career for them. we are supposed to be the ones that are caring for others during tragedies like this. to think that our caregivers were the victims is just incomprehensible to me. they died while serving others. they died in the line of duty. to the family of mr. love, our
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hearts break for you. i was in our emergency department last night and i saw the trauma all lined with our trauma team, emergency department team, nurses, techs, respiratory therapists, they are trained just like our police departments are. we so wanted to be able to utilize our skills and training to save these precious lives. the family of mr. love, i'm so sorry we couldn't save you. we are grieving with you. when i woke this morning, i really just wanted this to all be a bad dream but this is the reality of our world right now and today we are devastating. we are just starting to process the emotions of being on the front line of a pandemic, what
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it had left with us and now this tragedy but i will reiterate what cliff said. our job is to help and heal, and we are here to do our job, even if it's with broken hearts. on behalf of our medical staff, i would like to thank our security team and all of the first responders who without hesitation or fear were on-scene to do what needed to be done. in the emergency department we have a special relationship with our first responders. we work very closely with our police department, with emsa and our other ems agencies. they are a part of the team and we work with them on a daily basis. so thank you for being here for us in out of time of need, thank you for being here when we needed you. thank you for all you do to serve our community. we have all asked for prayers,
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and i will reiterate that. whatever faith you subscribe to, and even if you don't subscribe to a faith, i will tell thaw a prayer is just a solemn request for help, and i think we could all agree that our world needs a little bit of help right now. i want to leave you with the prayer that's been on my heart since last night. lord, i see a world that's dieing. wounded by the master of deceit, groping in the darkness, haunted by the years of past defeat, but then i see you standing near leigh me, shining with compassion in your eyes. jesus shine down on us, let yore your love shine through us in the night. lord, we want to be your witness. you can take what's wrong and make it right. thank you.
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>> i'm g.t. bynum the mayor of tulsa. i want to start, if -- i think one of the really important takeaways from the very detailed breakdown that chief franklin provided us today is just how many agencies and entities have lent their expertise to this response, and i want to thank a number of people who are here today to show their support for this team at saint francis. our congressman, kevin hearn, thank you, our sheriff, my colleagues from the tulsa city council. thank you all. i've been contacted by the president's administration
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offering their support. spoken with governor stitt. governor wanted me to, to let the team here at saint francis know that he's directed that all flags in oklahoma are to the lowered to half-staff for the next four nights in honor of each of these four victims. i really want to thank the first responders yesterday. it is remarkable that we can be here 17 hours after this happened and hear that breakdown from chief franklin in such a detailed way of what happened. and that is not just because the tulsa police department or the saint francis security team is here all by themselves. it was because there were so many law enforcement experts and first responders here, not just responding to the immediate threat, though i will never forget, i spoke with an officer yesterday who's a seasoned veteran of the department and he
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was one of the first people to get here, and he said, mayor, it was like the beaches of normandy out there. everywhere i looked, to my left and my right, there were officers running towards that building, jumping over bushes, getting around anything in their way between them and that threat so that they could save people. that is the law enforcement community we have here in tulsa. but i'm also so mindful. i went over to the family reunification center last night. and i saw experts there from the tulsa county sheriff's office and the tulsa police department and so many more leadership from saint francis, who were there bringing their expertise in assisting victims of trauma, to provide the best care that they could in the immediate aftermath of a great tragedy, and i want to thank them as well.
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our focus right now is on grieving. the shooter is dead. the threat that he brought to this campus, that has been ended yesterday. but the days ahead of us and the weeks ahead of us, it is so important for this community to show the team here at saint francis how much we love you, and i want to thank all of you for coming to work today. [ applause ] every day for years, including
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through the worst public health crisis we've ever faced as a city, you have put yourselves at risk to save the lives of people in this city, and i hope you know how much it is appreciated. how grateful this community is for you and your work and the risks that you take and never even appreciating that you could have to deal with this kind of risk, and this kind of premeditated violence. and yet you're still here, ready to save more lives today. this is a remarkable group of people that work at the saint francis health system. and so i want to ask my fellow tulsans -- in the days and weeks ahead, and that's the two things i've been asked the most in the last 17
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hours. one, people wanting to know the details of what happened and why it happened. well, i think, thanks to the law enforcement collaborative effort, we have a very clear understanding of that at this point, but even more than that, people want to know what they can do to help. we now know who the victims are. there will be a time to memorialize them and to show our support for their families individually, but we also know that our community needs to rally around the heroes who work at the saint francis health system. i speak on this as the ceo of another large organization that went through great tragedy in the last few years. i can tell you that individually, on an individual
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basis, when you say, we would really like people to donate to a fund, or we want everybody in town on friday to wear pink. when there's a memorial service, we want people there lined um up outside. any one of those individual things can sound like it's not enough to compensate for the loss, and it's not, but i can also tell you that when we went through the murder of sergeant johnson and the grievous injury to another officer, the way this community railed around the men and women of the tulsa police department, the way the people on this campus of saint francis rallied around the police department, it meant so much to our officers and their families and every who loves them. the collective impact of this community that is a community of such great love, that collective
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impact made a profound difference to people who are grieving and going through loss, and so that's what i would ask of my fellow tulsans. if you want to help participate in those ways that are going to come up in the days and weeks ahead, where you can show the people at saint francis how much you love them and you support them and that this community is here for them. i just want to say, lastly, on behalf of everyone in this community it isn't enough to tell the team at saint francis how much we love you, and how grateful we are for you. there is nothing that we can say that will make this pain go
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away. but we will be here with you to walk with you through that process every step of the way. have know doubt about that. thank you. have no doubt about that. thank you. >> chief, about your men and women, the other law enforcement agencies first of all, very reassures, particularly the [ inaudible ] say that. >> thank you. >> regarding the victims. you talked about the physician this man was apparently angry at. can you tell us about the three other people? sounds like another physician, two civilians, who they were and why they were there? >> the question is, who the other victims were and why they were there. they were there for medical service. the doctor was there providing
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care. they stood in the way. they stood in the way, and -- lewis gunned them down. >> the two patients and another physician working in the same office? >> so there were two physicians, yes. there was a receptionist and there was a patient. >> yes. can you just give the -- last name of everyone? >> we'll send that afterwards. >> yes? >> can you go, chief, through the police department's policy for dealing with an active shooter like this? you instruct your officers to go in no matter what? how do you handle something like this -- [ inaudible ]. >> when that call goes out the first officers that arrive confirm that there is a active shooter in progress. we then have an act installation occurred through our 911 system
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that alerts every tulsa police officer on duty and off duty. it alerts our special response team, our special operations team, it alerts -- all of our surrounding areas. every one of them respond en masse. we have all trained together. we've all worked together. we know each other the tendencies through that work. so -- so when we get that call, we are going to disregard any safety measures that we might have for ourselves and we are going to go in the building to deal with the threat. our philosophy is, we will stop the threat, and we will do that by any means necessary. that's exactly what the mind-set of these officers were that responded on the scene yesterday. and they performed heroically, in my opinion, and -- and i cannot thank enough the response
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not only from our locals, but also from the fbi, the united states marshals service, atf, all responded en masse, and if you were out at the scene you saw every shoulder patch, every patch on the back of the vest from every jurisdiction in tulsa. that's how we train. we work with stain francis security and have director for saint francis is a retired tulsa police major. we are always in contact and in sync with one another. this is exactly what we train on. large buildings, large structures. create obstacles for our officers between reinforced doors, between cavernous
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hallways. the shots echoed in the building. so we train to enter the building. if shots are being fired, we are to move rapidly towards those shots. if shots are not being fired, we are going to be more methodical in our approach as we look for signs, add that's what these officers did, when they first entered the building they saw broken glass, they saw shell casings. they were following those shell casingings around and began yelling "tulsa police! tulsa police!" and then they saw the rapid gunshot and ran to the area where they heard the rapid gunshot but again, it's a cavernous building and so the shots echoed, and they eventually found the shooter. >> right here. >> thank you. can you tell us a little more --
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the witnesses that you -- hearing reports that the gunman said to people i'm not targeting you. i'm looking for this individual person. is that the case? second, you mentioned the other three in the way. is there any evidence to indicate they were standing intentionally trying to block o doctor, or were they just in the gunman's way? >> i don't have any information on what the witnesses are reporting as of right now. i cannot speak to that. but i do know that the suspect, when he came into the building, into that office complex, he began firing. he began firing at anyone that was in his way. there are reports that one of the victims held the door for someone to allow them to escape out of the back door and was shot and killed. >> next question. >> i was going to ask to clarify, amanda was the
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receptionist, i believe? >> yes. that is correct. [ inaudible ] >> yes. amanda was a victim. she was the receptionist. the other was a patient and was taken to the hospital and later died. >> building on that, one more question. can you give us an update on any other victims that were rounded? are they still needing care? give us information on that. there has been conflicting information. >> the question is if there are any additional victims wounded or in care at this moment. i don't believe there is at this moment. that should quash that rumor. >> can you talk about -- [ inaudible ] >> the question is, how did the
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shooter get to the second floor. there's a parking garage attached with a second floor entrance. the suspect parked on the second floor of the building and entered through that second floor entryway and worked his way into the building. >> around the same time this happened, we got a release about bomb threats. is that connecteed to this? >> the question is about a bomb threat that came in. that did come in. we are still working to determine exactly how that came in. we do know that there was a response towards a bomb call. i believe it was at the suspect's residence. but we are still working through that portion to determine exactly what transpired there.
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>> when we talked before, you said -- [ inaudible ] it's been a terrible season of gun violence in tulsa. do you support a basic red flag law? any background check? anything like that? >> the question is on gun legislation and what i support. i will tell you this. i go out and i execute the law. there are legislators that legislate the law, that create the law. i am very -- i am more than happy to work with legislators if they want to bend my ear from a law enforcement perspective and ask what we need. i am more than willing to sit down and provide that information to legislators. [ inaudible ] >> the question is, did police
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have any history with the gunman. we are still working through that as well. he is from muskogee. so we are still working through that to determine exactly what his contact with law enforcement may have been. [ inaudible ] >> the question is, which one of the victims held the door open to allow people to escape? i don't know that i have that information. i do know that the patient victim held a door closed, i believe, is the information that i have, to allow someone to escape out of another door. >> you said the shooter wanted additional help from the
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surgeon. did he want drugs? was he trying to get more medication? was this an opioid situation? do you know? >> the question is, whether or not the victim wanted additional help in the form of drugs from the medical doctor. that is information that -- what we currently know is that he was in pain. he expressed that he was in pain and was not getting relief. that was the circumstance surrounding this entire incident. we will continue to develop this investigation and release information regarding more intricate details such as that. >> the officers on the scene told us there were additional gunshot injuries. were other people injured by
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gunfire during the incident? >> the question is, were other people injured by gunshots regarding this incident? >> all of the additional victims were treated and released. >> there were additional victims? >> there were additional victims -- i'm sorry. there were some additional wounded patients, but that is private information, obviously. they were treated and released from the emergency department. >> can you say how many? >> i don't have that number. >> from the chaos? >> i don't have that information. >> you said his wife called. did she know what was going to happen? did she hear what happen and say, that's my husband? >> the question is, that earlier i stated that the wife of the suspect called police and relayed information to police. the information that we
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currently have is that she did not know what was going to take place but that he contacted her either before the shooting took place or during the shooting and -- to let her know what he had done. [ inaudible ] >> the question was about community support and where would we want donations and other things left. i would say, let me answer this in two ways. saint francis is a family. we will take care of our own. we also recognize the need both locally and quite frankly nationally to support the victims and the families of the victims and saint francis.
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the tulsa community foundation has a fund that was already in existence for us, an employee assistance fund. we will make that link available for folks that feel the need to contribute to these families and to the organization. we just -- that's really the only, i would say, official place for folks that want to -- that want to do something to care for those that have been impacted by this situation. [ inaudible ] >> it's fine. dr. phillips was the consummate gentleman.
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he was -- he is a man that we should all strive to emulate. of everybody, you know, the fact that some individual would go after dr. phillips is mind blowing. he is one of those folks that, you know, tends to -- his clinic cannot always be on time because he will spend every minute with patients that they need. he is one of those doctors that was cut from the cloth of four decades ago in terms of how he felt about people and how he felt about his calling. so not only is it a shock, it is
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the ultimate loss for saint francis and for tulsa. [ inaudible ] >> the question was, had dr. phillips alerted anyone about his concerns? did he have concerns about his safety or the patient? not that we aware of as of today. [ inaudible ] >> the question was, is there a policy in place around patients -- or to react or response to patients harassing physicians. the short way to answer that is, we have multiple policies and practices in place that are


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