tv Andrea Mitchell Reports MSNBC June 20, 2022 9:00am-10:00am PDT
♪♪ good day, everyone. this is "andrea mitchell reports" in washington. as donald trump renews his attacks against his former vice president mike pence with no apology for the january 6th attacks that the house investigating committee says help in sight, during the insurrection. tomorrow's fourth hearing will focus on trump's pressure against state officials to
overturn the 2020 election. the star witness tomorrow georgia republican secretary of state brad raffensperger who resisted trump's demand getting one more vote from joe biden in georgia. a new abc ipso poll shows 6 in 10 americans want donald trump to face criminal charges for his role in the plot. a georgia grand jury is already investigating. on friday, trump doubled down on comments from the attack. promising pardons from the rioters if he's re-electeded and slamming vice president percent for certifying the re-election. on the biggest issue facing the biden white house, the economy, treasury secretary janet yellen insisting that a recession is not inevitable. in the fight against covid, the moment millions of parents have been waiting for. beginning tomorrow, children as young as six months can get vaccinated.
but will parents sign up? and juneteenth is being celebrated in many states in the nation's capital. we'll have a full report. this hour, i'll speak to california congresswoman barbara lee who was by the president's side when he signed the holiday into law last year. we begin with the january 6 hearings. joining us nbc news correspondent ali vitali in capitol hill. vaughn hillyard where vice president spence speaking later today and attorney u.s. attorney joyce vance, and jonathan lemire host of "way too early" right here on msnbc. ali, set the scene for us tomorrow. what are we going to see and hear when brad raffensperger appears as the star witness of the hearing. >> reporter: andrea, we've gotten a sense of what the ebb and flow is alike. a lot of insight from trump's
party. and a lot developing into the campaign on the pressure on his vice president mike pence and bring that all the way to the capitol, really directly linking that pressure campaign on what happened and what put the former vice president's life in danger. they're going to look at the pressure on the state level in places like georgia. but we'll also hear more about the fake slate of elects. part of that elector scheme that people like john eastman was undertaking in hopes of trying to at least preserve the former president's attempts to keep power. and at worse, overturn the election results of legitimately put up electors. that, of course, is a scheme we heard a little bit about from the pressure campaign on mike pence. but certainly, brad raffensperger and his top deputy, dave sterling, are going to be able to further illuminate when they sit in front of the hearing tomorrow. that's going to be led a adam
schiff the same as we heard from pete aguilar being the lead in the other hearings. developing at the state level, again, all of this comes back to trump, andrea. >> and joy vance, we heard audiotape of donald trump pressuring brad raffensperger. how important is brad raffensperger as a witness tomorrow? >> rafensperger is important not only for the witness and the public opinion, because it's in georgia that everything comes to a head an an audiotape. it's been a long time, andrea, since we listened to that tape. i remember the first time i heard it, it was astonishing. it's clear from the tone of the president's comments that he's ultimately threatening and
cajoing raffensperger to get engaged. in a crime. and bonnie willis, the district attorney in fulton county is clearly engaged. she's got a grand jury taking testimony right now but there are also possible federal crimes, there's conspiracy to violate federal rights and some very specific charges around failing to count legitimate votes and failing to certify false votes. lots of good information coming from brad raffensperger and his deputy tomorrow. >> and von, former president trump is showing zero signs of regret about the attack. and he's shaming them on the committee and attacking mike pence again in nashville friday. let's watch. >> mike did not have the courage to act. mike was afraid of whatever he
was afraid of. but as you heard a year and a half ago, mike pence had absolutely no choice but to be a human conveyor belt, a human conveyor belt, even if the votes were fraudulent. >> so, that's clearly unaccurate, von. what do we expect from the vice president pence to say today? is he going to along with that, is he going to counteract it? >> reporter: you know, i was talking to an aide to the former vice president who has said that mike pence wants to in his words provide solutions to the future instead of relitigating the past. that would suggest that the former vice president would show up here in illinois without talking about january 6th or the events that preceded it. this is a former vice president who is looking at his own potential presidential run. we're about 20 months away for
the iowa caucus to determine a nominee here. mike pence was quite clear and said it was about the most un-american idea that one man, that being him, would have the ability to decide an election. he has spoken out against donald trump when it scale to january 6th. at the same time, he can only separate himself so much from the former president. he has consistently referred to their time as the quote trump/pence administration. here's here in illinois not only giving an economic address in chicago this afternoon, but also will be giving a speech to local county gop activists at a lincoln day dinner here in peoria, illinois, these are the type of political stops he's continued to make, from here in illinois, to iowa, new hampshire, as he announced what could be an alternative bid to a former president. the trouble is donald trump continues to go at him on the attack. while these are the first
remarks on january 6th since that hearing -- or i should say, the first public remarks that he'll be giving since the hearing on thursday in which the pressure campaign on him was the sole focus of those several hours. january 6th select committee. this for mike pence also poses the question to him whether he would ultimately agree, either whether subpoenaed or asked to voluntarily cooperate with this investigation but there are still questions. you know, did donald trump ever concede to him that they 4 lost as a ticket the election. there are still questions that mike pence would likely be the only one to have answers to? >> so, jonathan, can mike pence have it both ways? he's celebrated by some and praised for his standing up to trump on january 6th. and counting the electoral votes even though there was a threat to his life. and we've seen the evidence of that from the mob. and still, you know, try to lean on the trump supporters, those election deniers who still seem
to be dominating the republican primary? >> most republicans don't think so. pence certainly praised widely in the mainstream media. pence is praised by many opinion pages including "the wall street journal" for doing the right thing on january 6th. he did his constitutional duty. he did not bow to the pressure campaign but the republican base is largely with trump. and even if some of them disapprove with his behavior on january 6th, they still like donald trump the president and donald trump the potential candidate in 2024. now, look, we have gone through it. trump's endorsement record this primary season a bit spotty. some wins, some losses. certainly polls suggest his grip on the gop has eased some. but only some. he is still, by far, the most powerful voice in the party. and certainly people close to the former president are very
confident that mike pence will not pose much of a challenge. they doubt that he will fall through with the run. even if he does, they think it would be irrelevant. they have their eyes trained on somebody like former governor ron desantis were the former president to run again. >> thank you for starting us up, al vitaly, jonathan lemire, vaughn hillyard. the biden administration's pressure to provide some economic relief as some warn of impending recession. this is "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. riders! let your queries be known. uh, how come we don't call ourselves bikers anymore? i mean, "riders" is cool, but "bikers"...is really cool. -seriously? -denied. can we go back to meeting at the rec center? the commute here is brutal. denied. how do we feel about getting a quote to see if we can save with america's
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just over the weekend two conflicts takes what is ahead for the u.s. economy. treasury secretary janet yellen saying a recession is not inevitable as the president just echoed, one of her predecessors larry summers is skeptical. >> well, i expect the economy to slow. it's been growing at a. >> reporter: rapid rate as the economy has recovered and reached full employment. but i don't think a recession is at all inevitable. >> dominant probability would be by the end of next year, we would be seeing a recession in the american economy. >> joining me now is the chair of the financial times editorial board and editor-at-large jillian tech. jillian it's good to see you. in that same statement, janet yellen made a few statements. and saying that recession is not necessarily on the horizon.
she also said that consumer spending and job growth would remain high and that inflation was, quote, in the coming months. so if you could take those one at a time, thanks? >> well, if you believe until fairies you can accept all of those things as true. unfortunately, what jay powell made very clear when he announced the rates hike last week was what they're expecting is that the unemployment rate will rise. that job growth will slow, because, frankly, that's the only way to stop a kind of inflationary wedged movement that everyone is thinking about that inflation will go up with higher wages and without confidence of their own jobs. and the question, of course, then is does that zip boo dip zoo recession. i was at friday night in new york and asked a lot to vote
and the majority are now expecting a small recession over the next year. certainly, that's where most peopled in the markets are looking for the next year or so to play out right now. so, on balance, i think people do think what larry summers said is correct. >> and obviously, that's an unwelcome view by a well respected harvard economist and former treasury secretary from inside the white house. democrat on democrat if you will. president biden just in the last hour said he hopes to have a decision on the gas tax holiday by the end of the week. would that be a band aid to make americans feel better in a midterm year? >> yeah, i mean, behavior economists have quite a lot to say about how inflation is playing out. consumers, ordinary people, with the economy, you have a big overarching numbers-based view of what happened to prices. right now, the fact that of the
matter is that good people see the gas prices going up so radically on the full court. 60% rise over the last year. there's a tend decency to pick on that most visible price and project it on to everything else. so, certainly, what happens to gas prices it incredibly enforced it for symbolic reasons as much as everything else. the real reason that larry summers has come out and said what he said, of course, he worked in the white house before, he was considered a strong contender to be federal reserve chair a few years ago which he lost out on. but now he can say what many people outside the system now do feel which is that the federal reserve should have acted a lot, lot earlier to try and crush inflation. and because it waited so long, even if you start having things like gas tax holidays, it really is shuffling the technique
around the titanic, because there's so many pressure now that it's unlikely to end quickly. >> and once you take the gas tax off, it's temporary, you have to put it back on and then people will, of course, feel that impact. so you get a bounceback negative effect as well. gillian, thank you as always. >> thank you. >> and joining us now to talk about the economic impacts the headwinds facing all candidates, a prominent candidate, democratic candidate for the primary in wisconsin. thank you for being with us. you've been pouring a lot of your own money into the democratic primary. the race apparently is tightening. the front-runner is lieutenant governor mandela barnes, he's got the support of a lot of progressives, black caucus, jim clyburn, he's got the teamsters and local officials. how do you deliver with economic
policy with barnes? >> yeah, thanks, andrea, thanks so much for having me. i think why we've seen so many momentum in the campaign and why the polls are tightening because our economic message is the one that worked since day one. we've been talking about how to put money back in people's pockets. this is one that differ on ron johnson greatly. johnson had the tax cut and took it away from working class americans. i actually want to bring those back, things like making gas mileage tax deductible. union dues tax deductible. your travel to and from work tax deductible. these are all things that ron johnson took away from working class voters at a time when they need it most. >> of course, ron johnson is the republican incumbent. and this is considered by the cook political report one of the two top races where democrats
could pick up. so, when we look at ron johnson and some of his policies, how do you think you can actually beat him, if you become the democratic nominee? >> yeah, i think this is why we're seeing so much enthusiasm on the ground is because people are looking for change. they're looking for somebody to actually go to washington and solve their problems. the problem is for the last 12 year, ron johnson has done nothing but benefit himself and his friends, literally become part of the swamp. that's what democrats want a change for. they want a proven track record to having gotten something done. we've created good paying jobs right there in wisconsin. we've brought investment and hemmed to raise wages. we've got someone like ron johnson unfortunately voting
against bringing structure-s-s back to wisconsin. >> and with barnes initially, you talked about ron johnson, would you commit yourself now to endorse whoever wins the democratic primary, since it's mandela barnes, front-runner? >> i personally don't think there's a front-runner right now. as you can see from the polls everything is tight. any democrat in this race is going to be a hundred times better than ron johnson. what i'm focused on right now is showing the people of wisconsin we're the best person to be able to win. because what we need to do in the fall is be able to win this race. we need a candidate who is able to win in all parts of wisconsin
that's what we've been showing. that's why polls are tightening so much in the primary. why we're now tied in the primary. voters see the economic change and look for a change. they're looking for somebody who has that history and track record. and helping to bring the bid for the democratic convention here to wisconsin. i know how politics work and i think voters are looking for someone with that track record. i've been able to create wages and jobs in this state and that's why we're seeing the polls tightening so much. >> alex lasry, thank you so much. of course all of those running, all of the democrats in the primary to appear with us, that invitation remains open. the welcome mat is also open for ron johnson, the incumbent. and msnbc exclusive, the kremlin's first comments about the two american veterans missing inside ukraine. we'll go live to moscow and keir
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with kremlin press secretary dmitry peskov about two missing american veterans we've been reporting have been missing in ukraine. and russia is crack down on journalists and limiting what reporters can say under threat of imprisonment. kier joins us from moscow. kier, what did you learn from dmitry peskov. >> reporter: andrea, this was a wide-ranging interview that lasted more than an hour that touched on the food prices sparked by the crisis in ukraine. we talked with dmitry peskov, too, about president putin's health. he insisted that the president is healthy and pointed to a forum that the president took part in last week that lasted more than three hours but you're right, we asked extensively about the cases of alex drueke and andy huynh, those two american veterans who it emerged last week have been held in ukraine. and this is the first time that the russian government has commented on their cases.
take a listen. >> russian television has broadcast interviews with two americans captured in ukraine, alex drueke and andy huynh. where are they? who is holding them and what happens next? >> well, sir, they're soldiers of fortune, and they were involved in the territory of ukraine. they were involved in firing and shelling our military personnel. they were endangering their life. and they should be responsible. they should be held responsible for those -- for those crimes. that they have committed. those crimes have to be investigated. you have in your place in your place, to ensure that the investigation under crimes is being completed. >> by russian authorities or by donetsk authorities?
>> by authorities. >> are they prisoners of war? >> huh? >> are they prisoners of war? >> i wouldn't start explaining the judicial side of their capture. the only thing is clear, they've committed crimes. >> what are the crimes knife committed? so as you know, under the geneva conventions, in a conflict is not something that you can be tried for. so what are the crimes are you talking about? >> they are in not in the ukrainian army. they are not subject to geneva convention. >> you don't know that? >> they are not members of the ukraine army? >> you weren't -- you believe they weren't enlisted? >> it will be totally investigated in due course. the geneva conventions cannot be applied for soldiers of fortune. >> reporter: and, andrea, we also asked about the case of two americans held here in russia,
paul whelan and brittney griner, brittney griner, of course, the wnba star arrested traveling into russia accused of having a vape pen with hashish has been suggested that those two americans are being held by the russians with the ambition of exchanging them in some way with russians being held in the united states. i pressed dmitry peskov on that. take a listen. . >> she was coming to take part in sport in russia, effectively trying to build bridges through sport. it's a terrible message, isn't it, that she should be arrested and held and face potentially a jail time? >> well, it's also a message to breathe some forbidden essences and materials to this country. while trying to be -- to build some bridges. and is persecuted by russian loss. and russia is not a single country in the world that have
quite as strict laws in that sense. there's a number of countries where you cannot enter with any drug. actually, it is prosecuted by law. so, we can do nothing about that. >> a special presidential envoy for hostage affairs is now leading the u.s. efforts to secure brittney griner's release. so, the u.s. government is now approaching this as a hostage situation? >> i would strongly disagree with that. we cannot call her hostage. why should we call her hostage? >> what about -- >> she violated russian law. and now she's being prosecuted. it's not about being a hostage. >> reporter: and, andrea, this is a wide ranging interview, we'll have more on "nightly
news" later today. i asked him about the statement by the nato general and the british prime minister suggesting that the west should prepare for a long conflict here. perhaps this is the one thing that russia and nato agree on. he said, too, he thinks this will be a long crisis, as he put it. andrea. >> this is really bad news about brittney griner, because the state department had been hoping that the delay again meant that, perhaps, they were not going to prosecute her under their criminal laws. so that's bad news. and also, i'm really fascinated by him saying that the two americans are not subject to the protections of the geneva conventions, the international treaties for prisoners of war. that's really omenent. >> reporter: that's right, andrea, i asked him, i'm afraid also about the case of two british nationals who have also been arrested and were sentenced
to death by a prosecutor in that donetsk region. and i actually said to him, will you commit that these americans will not face the same fate? and he said he was not prepared to commit to that, although he did say that he was speaking on above of the kremlin. so it suggests that it wasn't the kremlin's responsibility. >> keir simmons, with one of your newsmaking exclusive interviews out of moscow. a tough beat and you've done it again. we look forward to watching more throughout the day and on "nbc nightly news," thank you, kier. joining me is byron mccaffery and aleen cooper, correspondent for "the new york times." welcome, both. let me go first general mccaffrey, if i may call you barry, you're a friend and colleague. i'm struck by peskov saying that these two prisoners, these two american military men, are not
subject to the geneva conventions. what is your professional take on that? >> well, they're in a very difficult situation, obviously. there are house to, literally, as international fighters who have gone to ukraine to try and stand up to the russian criminal invasion. i think they're characterized by and large as courageous and will ing to sacrifice themselves for some ideal. it's not very hopeful for the united states or ukraine in my view. at the end of the day, the ukrainians have the courage and the fighters to continue this conflict. they need trainers and technical help. and the value of three americans, one probably missing, possibly killed, two clear in custody is much greater to the russians as hostages than they were to the ukrainians as fighters. so it's a difficult situation. and russians are going to exploit this for everything they
can. i'd be unsurprised if they weren't put in front of a russian court-martial and sentence. >> talk to me where this goes on the backgrounds because you've got setbacks there in the donbas. the russians have been making advances. as you know, full well, the ukrainians are trying to get acclimated to the new artillery they've received. what's the latest in the balance of power? >> hi, andrea, thanks for having me. the russians have been making and continuing to make incremental progress in the luhansk region. that's the eastern most region. and they're not doing so -- so they have virtually dane severodonetsk, on the verge of
letichask. the russians actually took longer to take the cities that they have and was inspected. so they're making increment slow but inexorable progress there. what's interesting, the conversation at the pentagon continues to be while the russians will gain territory until luhansk, the donetsk region is going to be a little bit harder for them. and there, you see, these advanced weaponries, these artillery systems that the high mark that the ukrainians have are coming into play. they expect that will make the battlefield more equal place between russia and campaign. that hasn't come to pass yet. but actually the impasse, we're still in for quite a long slog at this point. so russia is definitely doing
better, not as well as one would originally have expected a military, as the russian military was supposed to be. but they have made quite a slow but steady progress in luhansk. but the donetsk region is sort of where the battles may be shifting now. >> and general mccaffrey, there's a couple of really tough trigger points. one is odesa which now, according to reuters at least today, has been hit with some rocket fire, taking out a warehouse. a wood warehouse. where do you see this going if this becomes a length war of attrition as the u.n. secretary-general suggested this weekend it might well be? >> i'm probably an outlier. i disagree that this is longer run. this will be a strategic disaster for russia.
putin has inadequate infantry, and intensifying russians to sending their sons to this war. they're only volunteers, not conscripts. i don't think you can keep it up in terms of military, manufacturing and smart munitions. in the short run, ukraine's in great peril. this has turned into a world war i battle slash of artillery forces. so we've got clearly the coalition of willing organized by the u.s. european command more artillery in there, high-range rockets, longer-range rockets, and the ukrainians are suffering casualties at a rate that they will not be able to sustain for long. so, this is an acute situation between now and christmas. i think somebody is going to crack. and it probably will be the russians. if the ukrainians can cause
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slaves had been emancipated 2 1/2 years earlier in the rest of the country. a new gallup poll suggests that americans are more informed about the holiday than before. 42% know a little something about juneteenth this year, as compared to 25% last year. joining me is someone who has lived and knows a little about this congresswoman barbara lee joins me. congresswoman, you have people and relatives from galveston. explain why this is a celebration of freedom and also bittersweet, because of what happened to those people so many years ago, living in slavery, when they didn't need to be? >> thank you so much, andrea. and happy juneteenth to you. and to all ofs who are watching. first of all, juneteenth is a
day of celebration, but also a day of commemoration. i was born in el paso, texas. my grandfather was born in galveston, texas. and my great grandmother was also born in galveston. and she was born a slave. i had never visited galveston until two days ago. i was in galveston, texas, over the weekend with new family members who i'm just meeting. and a knew the story of juneteenth because of my grandmother, of course. he was born in 1875. but my great grandfather that was in play. this is a day of celebration, this is the day 2 1/2 years later that african americans in texas achieved freedom. but it's also a day of commemoration, because we have to remember those enslaved who built this country on slave labor, who love this country but who fought for their freedom. so this spirit of freedom and commemoration is with us today. but also we must look forward.
and we have to close these gaps and pass hr 40 which is a commission to study and develop reparations because so much wealth has been lost. so many disparities and so many injustices that we see today are directly related to the 403 years ago when africans were brought to this country enslaved. >> having been in galveston over the weekend, tell me about that celebration. just what was the mood. and just how important was it to you to be reconnected with your roots. >> well, it was so important because just knowing myself, and i know so much of my history, but have never, as i said, been there. and there's actually some grave sites of the parrish family who will my grandfather is a descendant of. and the celebrations in galveston are really remarkable because you have multigenerational groups,
celebrating and learning history. that's what's so important. it was a unifying visit for me. unifying things in galveston, because people from all over came to learn. let me talk about congresswoman sheila jackson lee, because she came to galveston and spoke at an event that was unbelievable. she told several stories. i had a chance to meet opal lee who is 95 years old who came to washington, d.c. with her sisters. she encouraged us to walk 2 1/2 miles every day for our freedom and liberation because it took that long for african americans to be free in galveston. now, it's a national holiday. and people in galveston are really excited that more people are beginning to understand what took place there, coming to galveston, and learning about the history of african americans
so that we can move forward and tell the truth. you so, my commission set up a racial transformation movement in this country. what's happening in galveston is so exciting for me because i was there with family members who i recently just met. >> and we've been showing pictures of the pen president when he was handed the pen to sign the law from opal lee as you pointed out 95 years old. re-creating that 2 1/2-mile march, extraordinary at her age. and there in the picture as well is the vice president, of course. let me ask you, briefly, congresswoman, about the way some companies are trying to commercialize juneteenth in an inappropriate way? >> yes. and you know, it's really a tragic mistake to do that in this way. you know, we want african american owned businesses, small
businesses, to lift up the commemoration of juneteenth through their economic development and their economic growth and by displaying and selling products that african americans make and depict the true it gives me a lot of anxious. but i'm so happy to see so many celebrations with our african-american-owned businesses really depicting the true meaning of juneteenth, the true meaning of justice and also what we must do to move forward to repair this damage. so the commercialization, this is america. unfortunately, these corporations understand they should not do this, but leave this up to the black businesses to determine how we're going to move forward to teach about juneteenth in a businessmaner that's appropriate for the celebration of this national holiday. >> congresswoman, thank you for
all you have done on this. and continue to celebrate throughout the day. >> thank you so much. happy juneteenth. the first covid shots for kids as young as six months old will be administered this week. over weekend the cdc green lit pfizer and moderna's versions saying they are safe and effective at protecting children under 5 against severe illness. some parents are hesitant. a recent survey from the keizer foundation found fewer than 20% of parents are eager to get young ones vaccinated. 27% are firmly against it. joining us now is dr. manual for global initiatives. and so the cdc found 75% of american children were already infected with children by the end of february. what's the case for vaccinating your child even if they have already had covid.
>> we know from older children and adults that getting a vaccine after a covid infection can add protection. during this latest omicron surge, we have had a huge number of kids hospitalized, including a majority of them without preexisting conditions. a majority who didn't have obesity or asthma or diabetes. so there's a good reason to protect your child. >> so the age group, there's so much resistance. the age group just above the new group being enabled to get these shots, kids 5 to 11, their participants have extremely low vaccination rates for them. part of this is due to the messaging surrounding the vaccine, the politicization of it. what should parents know before getting their youngest children these infants and toddlers vaccinated? >> well, first, i would tell you
that my grandchildren enrolled in the study so they could get the vaccine early. we're big believers in it. the vaccine is much safer than getting covid. we know, as you pointed out, that millions of children got covid and ended. hospitalized and some of them will get some of the severe side effects including the multisystem disorders and will die. so the vaccine is better. it is important to reognize, it's still no guarantee and it doesn't have serious side effects in these children. pfizer ran 1,600 children in its study in effectiveness and didn't see one case of myocarditis that we were worry ed about from the older children. 12 and above, kids have gotten a lot of vaccine, but under 12, parents really need to get their children vaccinated. they can get the covid vaccine along with the other vccines
their children might need, whether the tetanus vaccine or mumps and re bell la vaccine. >> do you think there's a preference, moderna, pfizer, either is okay? >> either is okay. one should know the pfizer has a lower amount of the protein in the vaccine of the mrna, and as a consequence, you need three shots. two within the first three weeks and one eight weeks after the second shot. moderna needs only two shots, and that may be preferable to parents not to have to trek into the pediatrician office three different times. but both are similarly effective. >> are these vaxen seens for children anymore specified for omicron than the earliest vaccines that we had initially? or are they specially tailored in any way? >> they are not specially tailor ed.
the only kron vaccines still need full approval or authorization. that's going to happen soon. as we know, the data from moderna is very promising on that. >> thanks so much. for your expertise. we appreciate it. our friend mark shields, the iconic democratic political commentator has died at the age of 85. he was a marine veteran, graduate of notre dame. he was a political am campaign to the drats before becoming a columnist and commentator for years. and for the last 33 years on the pbs news hour. he was funny, gregarious, beloved, known for his hilarious recaps of the gridiron washington journalism tradition. his daughter and a former producer said sunday he loved
politicians for their willingness to get in the fray. as he said, the political candidate dares to risk the rejection that most of us will go to any length to avoid. he retired in december 2020 leaving his beloved wife, amy, two grandchildren, a legion of friends and fans. we are going to miss him all the time. and our condolences to the family. coming up in the next hour here on "andrea mitchell reports," the republican party changing its platform and declaring president biden's election is illegitimate. plus tomorrow's committee hearing on a republican president's actions and how the republican reaction compares to watergate 50 years ago. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports," only on msnbc hell reports," only on msnb think he's posting about all that ancient roman coinage? no, he's seizing the moment with merrill. moving his money into his investment account
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