tv The Katie Phang Show MSNBC June 26, 2022 4:00am-5:00am PDT
because with miro, they could problem solve together, and find the answer that was right under their nose. or... his nose. this is the katie phang show. live from miami, florida. we have lots of news to cover in lots of questions to answer, so let's get started. emotions running high on the streets of america, as more states enact bans on abortions. and one, state a state senate candidate is dropping out of this race, accused of assaulting his female component opponent acid abortion rally. some states are positioning themselves now as sanctuaries, where people can come for safe and legal abortion. i'll take that live with a california lawmaker. plus, millions of americans have watched the january 6th hearings, and there is still more to come. will the republican obsession
over tv ratings backfire as more people tune into damning evidence showing what led up to the capitol attack? i will put that question to my panel of experts. later today, it marks seven years since the supreme court legalized same sex marriage across the country. is that right? now, after roe is overturned? i will talk to the teenager who publicly took a stand against florida's don't say gay bill. all of that and more is coming up. and a good sunday morning to you. i am katie fang. on this day in 2015, the supreme court said the country into a frenzy of emotion, declaring that same-sex couples had the right to marry in all 50 states. now, that freedom and some rights of the very personal to you may be on the chopping block. after a woman's constitutional
rights to choose was ripped away on friday. saturday was another day that was full of rallies in protests from coast to coast, with thousands of people to crying the court's decision and demanding that the right to an abortion be restored. the protests were largely peaceful, with a few exceptions. including one incident in rhode island. nbc news has confirmed that authorities arrested is off to the patrolman he was running for state senate as a republican. for his assault as an abortion rally. he is accused of attacking his opponent in that race, a black woman. the daily beast reported that candidate in 2020, saying that he was dropping out of his race. let's take a look at where the country stands at this morning, on abortion bans. nine states now have bans in effect, and within the last 24 hours the states of wisconsin and alabama have been added to that list. six more states, including texas, they have trigger. laws and those are said to activate in the next few weeks. msnbc reporter mauro barrett is
live outside of the supreme court, tracking the reaction. amara? >> katie, i was standing, essentially, in the same spot when the decision came down on friday morning. and now, nearly 48 hours later, that same law, the visceral emotion, celebrating and crying in despair, over the decision that came down, still existed yesterday. i saw about 1500 2000 people here on friday. it was a small group, here about 400 protesters showing up. like you said, here in d.c.. also largely peaceful as there were people protesting and demonstrating for and against abortion. who have conversations, occasionally standoff. we saw that on friday as well. there was a case where capitol police arrested two people for allegedly throwing paint over the fence that you see behind me. but it was placed after the draft opinion was leaked back in may. yesterday, people carry that emotion. our team spoke with some people who had traveled in from out of state to express how frustrated
they were. one woman, an immigrant, coming in from massachusetts, saying that she feels like the u.s. is a laughing stock right now. take a listen to some of the conversations. >> right now, you cannot force a corpse to give up its organs without paperwork, but you can force me to have a baby i don't want. and that is not, this is exactly -- i have less rights then -- >> i support the overturning over freeway. i believe lots of millions of lives are going to be saved. >> when i spoke with protesters, here who were celebrating the decision. those who oppose the right to an abortion, they said that it passed by sheer determination of the work they've been doing. but they say this is a first step, because now they believe that they can go towards the states to enact similar laws in statewide across the country. so when you talk about this being the anniversary of the supreme court ruling the decision-making game marriage
legal, lots of concern here about clarence thomas's opinion, referencing the fact that he thinks that decisions around contraception or lgbtq rights should be reviewed as well, katie. >> i want to apologize for the mispronunciation. that is more up there, at msnbc reporter, reporting live to us from the supreme court, thank you so much. >> thanks. >> even states where abortion will remain legal are taking action after this decision. california governor gavin newsom just released a bill providing -- for any state, traveling from states or abortion is illegal. it is part of the partnership along the west coast helped abortion rights. you can see on this map that abortion is protected up and down the west coast. but there are nearby states where it is already legal. i am glad to, welcome at this time, california congressman sarah jacobs at this time. thank you for joining us this
morning, jacobs. talk to us about what is being deemed to the west coast offense. that is that creation of the affiliation of california, oregon, and washington, to protect access to reproductive care. >> well, thanks for having me. i am so proud to be from california. which is a state that has been on the forefront of protecting these rights. and, yes the governor just signed laws protecting abortion providers and people traveling in from other states. we are going to put a constitutional amendments on the ballot in november to amend the california constitution to ensure the right to abortion is and shined in that. and we are doing everything we can to make sure the board shun -- california's a safe haven for anybody needs abortion. but let's make it clear. no matter what california and oregon and washington are doing, we know that if republicans get control of the senate, they want to knock a federal abortion ban. so we cannot just rest on our laurels in california that we are doing the right thing.
we have to keep fighting and try to make sure that everybody across this country has their constitutional right to an abortion. >> let's speak plainly about the cost of being a safe haven for those seeking safe, legal abortions. there are some budget line items that i write about, like the $20 million it is being used to score abortion funds, providing lodging and gas for pregnant women, including those from other states. do you have concerns about the potential backlash from taxpayers who do not want to flip the bill for these kinds of services? . >> we know it is going to impact our budget. we also know that with folks coming in from arizona, utah, and other states, our abortion clinics are going to be more impacted. and abortion is a time sensitive medical procedure. so we need to make sure that we are providing support to those providers, so that they can make sure they have enough appointments available. but no, i think californians are incredibly proud to be this beacon of hope and progressivism, and our values.
we did it all four years under the trump administration, showing that there was a different way. and we are going to continue to make sure we are standing up for folks rights in california. >> we are starting to also see, congresswoman, some businesses taking a stand. companies like, disney apple, starbucks, announcing that they are going to be covering employ travel costs if they have to travel for legal abortion. seeing how women account for nearly 50% of the u.s. workforce, that seems to make economic sense, even for states like california. >> i am glad the companies are doing this. i think more companies should. and i will encourage them to. i think we should also be a little bit concerned that we are asking people to disclose their most sensitive and personal health care decisions to their employers in order to get assistance. we would never ask that for other kinds of health care. and i think we also need to be clear that as great as it is that these companies are giving the support to their workers, many of these companies are the
same ones who funded this right-wing gene, putting these justices in place. because they wanted tax breaks, and they wanted a corporate friendly supreme court. so we cannot let them off the hook just by having them do this nice thing. we need them to use their real political power to make sure that they are protecting the rights of their workers. and that means not expanding into states where abortion is going to be illegal, not doing conferences and other things in these states. we saw that was very successful to overturn the bathroom laws in north carolina. and there is a lot more that we need companies to do, especially because we know so many of them were complicit in the situation that we are in right now. >> before i have to let you, go i will be remiss to not ask you about the spill that you have proposed. this bill that would protect sensitive reproductive data that women put into period tracking apps. you just mentioned this a few minutes ago. what is the status of this legislation to do you expect it to pass? >> we have a lot of support in the democratic caucus from
across the ideological spectrum. senators -- are leading this in the senate, and we have a lot of support in the senate as. well i think it is an incredibly important thing that we can do right now, to protect people in these states where abortion is being criminalized. their most personal and sensitive health data cannot be used against them. i think leadership is looking at it closely and i'm very hopeful that we will get it done. >> our thanks again to california congresswoman sara jacobs for joining us on this incredibly important issue. we will be untouched. thank you. now overseas to germany where president biden is attending the g7 summit where he will meet with key, u.s. allies to talk about russia and worldwide inflation the president. is announcing this morning the united states and the other g7 nations will ban imports of russian gold in there, effort to undercut a key source of revenue for moscow. nbc's kristen welker, traveling with the president, good
morning, tell us the latest. >> hi, katie, good morning to you. from the beautiful alps. president biden, the g7 leaders, have begun this summit. and as you mentioned, the key focus here is finding ways to pressure russia, as it ramps up its war in ukraine. that has taken on new urgency in the wake of russia, attacking kyiv for the first time in weeks. the president today was asked about that. to support more of its barbarism. so he and the other g7 leaders leaders are going to find more ways to turn up the heat on russia. as you mentioned, they announced this morning a ban on russian gold imports. that is significant, because that is russia's second largest export item, next to oil. so watch for that, and the reaction and fallout for that. the other key goal of this site, katie, is trying to keep these allies united. this is a war that is now entering its fifth month. president biden spoke to the importance of that earlier when
he was meeting with the german chancellor. take a listen. >> we have to stay together. putin is counting on this from the beginning. somehow, nato and the g7 would splinter. but we don't get, it and we're not going to. so we can't let this take the form of -- >> indicating, as you mention, they are going to be addressing other critical issues on the world stage, including especially global inflation. that is going to be a big one. the president has other meetings later today, as well as working into dinner. and tomorrow, all eyes will be on president zelenskyy, addressing the g7 leaders virtually. so that will be a significant moment. from here, president biden heads to spain where he will attend a nato summit. this is a second trip to europe in two months. i was traveling with him when he attended an emergency nato summit in brussels. again, the focus of that summit was the war in ukraine.
at the time, it was just getting underway. and now the war is white no sign of -- it is turning up the heels with all of those leaders, trying to find a solution. of course, it does come against the backdrop of where you started your show. the u.s. in turmoil after the u.s. supreme court ruled to overturn roe v. wade. katie? >> our thanks to kristen walker, traveling with the president. now we are going to shift to ukraine, where a search and rescue mission was underway. while you are sleeping, and then we shelling hit a residential building in kyiv, injuring at least four people. among those rescued from the rubble this morning, a young girl under the age of ten. some people were able to evacuate, but others remained still under the rubble. nbc's alison barber has the latest from kyiv. >> a search and rescue team trying to make their way in and out of this part of the building, they were hit by a missile this morning. over here, you have teams collecting and going through
bits of evidence. these are pieces, we believe, of the missile that struck these buildings in the early morning hours. we know the number of people were injured here. one woman walking out of the building, getting medical attention, before saying that she seems to be well enough to walk out if you're on her own. another person, your child, 36 years old, we are sticking out of this building on the structure this morning. back to you. >> thank you alison barber in kyiv. coming up, a trump backed lawmaker competing in illinois runoff race, praise the former president for a, quote, historic victory for a white lights after the row repeal. you don't believe me? we will play the clip. her campaign says that this was a miss speak, but is the damage already done? plus, no surprise that trump is a need for media, tension but as millions turn into the january six hearings, go to the presidents obsession with tv ratings be the very thing with him and his big lie republicans
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not over presentation on the committee. that was a very foolish decision. >> former president donald trump, this past week, trashing house minority leader kevin mccarthy for the january six committee did against the capitol. the profound implication of the bombshell hearings that have had on the country. the man he was obsessed with getting media attention, he sure is getting. it but just not the kind he wants. he might have illegitimate reason to be scared, just as last week revealing just to damaging the readings have been for trump. according to a clinic poll, nearly six and ten americans think that trump bears a lot or some responsibility for the
starting of the u.s. capital on january six. and the majority of americans, 58%, say they are following the news about the january six committee river closely or somewhat closely. millions of americans tuning in to watch the public hearings in the last two weeks, democratic senator writes for msnbc.com, saying, the republican party could be screwed by the same thing it has become addicted to with trump. huge television writings. for insight and analysis, we are joined by former republican congressman joe walsh. who is no longer affiliated with the party. and political correspondent for insider, kimberly leonard. joe, i'm gonna start with you. i want your immediate reaction to that max burns piece. do you agree? will trump be screwed by the very thing he has always been obsessed with? tv ratings and millions of eyes watching what is going on on tv? >> katie, i do. and that's trump could be screwed. i do not think the republican party will be scared, not this
november, for these hearings. look, i still hear from hundreds of trump supporters and republican voters every day. and katy, they are extra pissed off and angry about what they are hearing about these hearings. i don't know that they are watching the hearings, but even they are hearing about the damaging information, about what trump did. so if they are impacted, i mean, the hard-core trump base is impacted, about what is being learned at these hearings, i think that is going to hurt trump in 2024. i do not think it is going to be an issue of democrat versus republican in 22, the. >> so kimberly, let's talk about a democrat who has -- won a democrat, really a republican, you have some exposure. congresswoman mary miller, at a rally with trump last night, is in hot water now because she made some crazy statements.
let's take a quick listen to it. >> i want to thank you for the historic victory for white life in the supreme court yesterday. >> my question for you, kimberly. mary eller, she didn't travel for. she may statements approving of hitler, she had to immediately back up and make apologies. our team is saying she misspoke, this is not what you meant to say. why is this telling us about the fact that some of these republican supporters, especially those who are kind of acolytes of donald trump, they have the comfort level of saying things, turn around the claiming that they did not really mean it. but they are shooting any kind of facade. >> this is not the first time that this woman has made controversial remarks. it is part of what the former president does. this issue really highlights how vulnerable republicans are on the issue of abortion. she says that she meant to say right to life, but this is the kind of clip that gets played again and again and again. in the media and campaign ads
and things like that. so it really highlights how republicans are now going to be on defense on the issue of abortion. and democrats are ready to ride it all the way to the election. >> you know, quickly before we get back to joe, you noted that one issue voters sometimes are republicans. and there were some republicans who turned their noses about somebody like donald trump, but he delivered a's republican supreme court overturned roe. might this be a good thing for republicans for the midterms? >> for them to be able to defend what -- >> for them to be able to say, look, i supported the republicans and it came to fortune when i wanted. do you think some republicans at the ballot box in november will get help, a boost, because of roe? >> america ceases upon where they're going to be on abortion. and i've not really done that. before roe was struck down, they may democrats take part in votes where they'd votes on things like, should abortion be banned after 20 weeks. and that was vulnerable for democrats. so now, democrats can say,
where is the line abortion? do you believe it should be allowed in cases of rape and incest? you believe it should be allowed after six weeks? where do you stand? there is going to be a lot of pressure. so that is where republicans are going to be especially vulnerable. >> joe, committee chair congressman benny thompson is saying now that significance, he is that adjective not me. significant evidence could necessitate additional hearings. this news coming as the new york times reports that most, brooks i hard right republicans they once fierce ally of trump, now appears to be willing to testify to the 16 committee. brooks famously spoke at the ellipse outfitted in body armor, where after the attacks of the capitol. i have to ask, could brooks's testimony be a huge get for this 16 committee? >> yes, it could. and katie, there could be a lot more evidence coming. i have got to speak to illinois congresswoman, this is so important. whether she misspoke or, not it
doesn't really matter because katie, it fits. this is where my former political party is. they want a christian theocracy, the republican party does. and this notion of a white, christian theocracy. again, misspoke or not, this fits with the way my former political party is. look, i think more is coming from this january six committee. and i think it will continue to be damning to trump. especially in 24. i agree with kimberly, though. i think the roe decision really could be an impact on republican democrats in 2022. >> -- >> it could get democrats, it should really help get democrats, out to vote. >> and to joe's point, kimberly, you recently chance to speak to a candidates here in the state of florida, nikki freed. and you got some insight into whether or not she thinks there has been some huge upending to this race, as a result of roe.
what did she have to share with you? >> yes, she did. first of, all running for the democratic nomination for governor. and her opponent is -- used to be a republican. so she sees us as potentially being an opportunity, in the primary. but then also in the general, this is going to push the issue back into republicans court. so for governor desantis, this is going to mean where are you going to be changing abortion laws? she's already signed a bill into law that bans abortion after 15 weeks, and that goes into law on july 1st. he hinted that there were more ways that he could act in his statement, which he released after the roe decision. so now, people are going to be asking him. where are you drawing the line? are you moving it down to six weeks? what is going to happen next? these are the kinds of questions that he is going to have to answer. >> joe, before we have to go i do have to ask you. do you think this tactic, by the 16 committee, to take a little bit of time off during
the recess and come back in july, still uses the parade of all these republican witnesses. i approve of the fact that they are using republican witnesses for this, point but this delay seems to actually hurt them, in my humble opinion. what do you think? >> katie, i so agree with you. i am pulling my hair out. they should, be in primetime, every single night, night after night. they should be a long time ago. but if they are going to have the hearings this summer, man, it needs to be primetime every single night. to show the american people how important this is. and there should not be any delays. >> kimberly learned from insider, former congressman joe walsh, thank you both are being here this, morning i really appreciate it. go to the key to reinstating abortion rights aligned with each of his congregation in south florida? why a synagogue there is suing the state over its 15-week abortion ban. and what to the president could mean after the road rolling. i will speak with a man leading the charge, rabbi barry silver,
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respecting the establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. those words of freedom, written into the first amendment, now being called into question as many christian conservatives are using religion as a pretext to restrict the rights of women nationwide. but one florida synagogue, well, it is suing the state for violating religious freedoms. they were in response to the overturning of roe v. wade, the congregation -- says that the united states supreme court decisions, and voters on anti abortion law, criminalizes the practice of -- jewish law entitles and requires abortion. when it is necessary to protect a woman from, and i will emphasize this, emotional or physical harm. in that same response, the congregations rabbi, barry
silver, he called out christian nationalists. they not only deny religious freedom to choose, but also to fellow christians, who are mostly pro-choice and view jesus as a paragon of love not power, and are gassed at their coat religion this posthumous identity theft of jesus and his teachings. rabbi silver, i have him here. he is a lawyer, a former democratic member of florida's house of representatives, and he joins me now. rabbi, we were joking before we started this segment, you have many more -- the yarmulke you are going to wear with me is to tell me about this lawsuit. so very briefly, giving it to the basics of this lawsuit. while you are doing this against the state of florida? >> it is great to be here on msnbc. in hebrew and yiddish ms means the truth. so it is great to see it msnbc, and if you want to see the -- you go to the fox. this type of attempt to impose a fundamentalist christian the
on the rest of us is exactly why the founders of this country in trying into the constitution the separation of church and state. they saw the horrors of what happened in europe, with christianity merged with the state. inquisitions, post -- inquisitions, wars. this is precisely what they wanted to avoid. these fundamentalist questions, they cannot speak for all questions. they represented the worst aspects of religion. if they really want to be for a live, let them join us in asking for universal health. caregivers of these assault weapons. let them protect the planet, instead of trying to force parented on people. that does not protect life. that trivializes life, by saying that you have if you have casual sex, you should be forced into parenthood. this is an abomination, and we will fight with every fiber of our beings. this includes the indomitable spirit we are used to being oppressed. and we are used to fighting back. there is a great partisan fighter, during world war ii,
and he said that freedom begins with an act of defiance. >> and this is the congregations act of defiance. you are a lawyer, i am a lawyer. although we also wear different hats and yarmulke. my question for you as a lawyer. florida's abortion ban, it actually does have an exception, tragically not for rape, incest, or human trafficking. but it does have an exception if there is going to be a harm to the women's life. how is that inconsistent with jewish teachings? >> because you have to talk to all types of groups to prove it. and if you don't prove, it you are criminalizing, it's your put into jail. we should have the absolute discretion to be able to determine for ourselves. the woman should be able to determine this. if she has to figure out is this going to pass muster, there was no to do when you're talking about abortion, or am i going to be put in jail, that it has a chilling effect on the constitutional rights, and it is therefore patently illegal. it is outright hug spa for christian fundamentalists to tell jews with the sanctity of life means.
or to tell us what our bible means. if they want to distort the meaning of our bible and misinterpreted that is their right,. but to force their misinterpretation back on the people who wrote it and read it in the original, that is going too far. >> there was also a very nuanced issue there the rise in the jewish faith and culture, but is actually specific to a dramatic issue called k tax. can you talk a little more how -- tax is actually used to speak to this issue of overturning roe v. wade? >> -- is a horrible disease that takes the life of a child, very early. and we can't diagnose it within 15 weeks. so when it is diagnosed, jewish woman our quiet by law to abort the fetus to spare themselves and the fetus the acadie in the heartache of watching a child, doomed to die by the time they are five. they have a right to abort. this law would criminalize jewish, law and we say to the parents, to back, there is no exception. and this law takes away and the exception for mental distress. so even if you attend
psychiatrists, saying, this would be exceptionally traumatic, too bad. you are forced to bring a child into the world knowing it is doomed. this is a ghoulish attempt to force someone's religion on us. >> rabbi, unfortunately, i only have a minute left with you. i did want to ask you, why is a support like for you so far, have you been getting a lot of support outside of the jewish faith and outside of just your congregation and community? we are speaking for everybody we are getting tremendous support from all around. >> people are just fed up with donald trump. the only honest thing he did was when he went down the escalator to announce his presidency, he showed us what direction he was going to take us in. and his favorite book, he says it is the bible, says it is easier to a camel to get through the eye of a needle, then for a rich person to get into the gates of heaven. that means he is not just taking them down a little bit, he's taking us all the way down to the gates of hell. he is trying to bring all of us with him, by imposing the ridiculous rules and religion upon all of us. and people are encouraging,
they are saying right on, fight back, don't let him do it, we are going to continue this fight. and we are encouraged by the fact that judaism, the night, is always followed by the day. because the night is always followed by the dawn. so we are very encouraged to fight on. >> well, i feel like we just wrap the show now. i feel like i didn't have to go to church or synagogue. >> also a biblical passage that says, we shall overcome. it is from jewish scripture, it is the motto of freedom fighters throughout the world. it was also used by martin luther king. this is going to galvanize people throughout the country, to fight back and to fight for the principles, the real principles, of the bible. the pro-life princles that say, we should fight for a world summer shimmering with shalom. joyous with justice, and brimming with brotherhood. >> rabbi berry silver, a man. that is all i have to say. thank you so much for being with us. coming up, how student loan debt is holding back millions
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comes up to a teacher and it turns into a discussion, and the parents of the right to know that, that endangers us when we are already in danger. every single person in the, room every single person that i, know has experienced homophobia, transphobia, from parents or peers or the school. >> that was will arkansas at that time a junior at winter park high school in florida. pleading with state senators back in march and not to pass the so-called don't say gay bill, which bans classroom discussions on sexual orientation and gender that state, from kindergarten to third grade. as we, now the bill became law on is set to go into effect on this friday, july 1st. but will, in defiance of this move, gave a presentation in their history class on the stonewall riots, knowing farewell that it will trigger
backlash from school officials. will was a vest to get it by the school administration, and moved to another class. if you have that presentation went viral. as will and other activists vowed to continue their fight against ron desantis's hate agenda, another battle maybe royal national level. clarence thomas said that the supreme court should establish another supreme court ruling. joining me now is will lock, and president and cofounder of the residential queer student union, and one of the organizers who led the walkout of more than 500 students, protesting the don't say gay bill. will, it is a pleasure to have you join us this morning. seven years ago today, same sex marriage became legal. but i have to ask you, does it feel, sadly, like things might be having heading backwards in light of what happened friday? >> it absolutely does. they started this year by --
all right to education, and students rights to know but ourselves in our identities. but that was at a state level. and so this new supreme court decision really sets the precedent which is really terrifying, especially because they are talking about reconsidering cases like lawrence and cases like -- because they have shown that they are willing to overturn these rulings, which have been in place for a long time. and now they are going in after a right to privacy and a right to marriage. >> you spoke so passionately, will, on that florida senate floor, and where did it in the new york times op-ed about how legislation like the don't say gay bill her to teens like you and your friends. it is stuff like the vitriol from fellow classmates and even parents, to arrive in the risk of suicide. so when you hear that fundamental rights like the ones that you just talked about could be on the chopping block, does that make you feel scared? or does that make you feel galvanized to want to go and actually get people to the wedding box, to the ballot box,
to make sure something like that doesn't happen? >> you know, i think it is a mix of both. because we are going in a direction where our fundamental rights could be taken away in 2022, i am terrified. i am really scared. especially because i'm coming of age right now. i am young, i'm going to have to deal with the consequences of this. but on the other side of this, it has been on me in my entire generation to organize and to mobilize and to protest and to vote. and it is so important that we do, and i am really hoping that this is, sort of, the big push to get everyone out to the polls, out to the streets, to finally make change at a more court level than we have before. >> closing out the month is florida's largest lgbtq+ pride celebration. what does this month mean for you, as a florida teen, singled out by your own governor and state legislatures? does pride hit differently this
year for you? >> it absolutely does. pride started, and always has, been and always will be a protest for our liberation, for rights to be who we are when we have not been able to for as long as the united states has existed. so for the first time, really, in my lifetime, pride is once again a protest, and once again a big for our rights. this time, it is not really just a celebration. it is, but more than anything, it is a protest. and that is what is going to turn back into next, that is what is going to continue to be. >> you are going on into your senior year of high school, you've already proven that you are a brave and eloquent spokes person, that you are not going to be kept other peoples hatred and their bigotry. but what is the plan for you when you graduate in about a year? >> i am not sure. i will never stop being an advocate, and i will never stop
fighting for my community. but i think -- i am really not sure. i sylvie year to figure that out, figure out where i want to go to college, but i will always continue to fight for the queer community, and it will always continue to make sure that young people have a voice. >> well, we'll, it was anything that i can share with, you you do not have to know right now. your answer is perfectly acceptable, because frankly, everything changes, but the future, it is your oyster. and for what you have shown in terms of your tenacity and your gumption, it sounds like you are going to be able to open any door and go right through it, thank you so much for being with us this morning. will larkins, we appreciate you. >> thank you so much, katie, for having me. peace and love. >> a quick programming note. tonight, jonathan kaye part caps off pride month, sitting down with a pioneering lgbtq members of the stage and screen, including luverne cox, --
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