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>> so what happens now that the bond hearing occurred, the judge held him without bail. he will go through an intake process at the lake county jail. they will go through a number of criteria, questions, and he will be classified on where he should be placed within the jail, depending on how those questions turn up, he might be placed in an individual cell. that's something that the jail will work on and they go through their internal processes. >> where was he at in kenosha? >> did he express any kind of remorse? >> i don't want to get into his demeanor during the interview. >> we'll take two more, guys. two more. sir? >> where was he at? when he went to wisconsin, which way back did he come on 41 by the north chicago police officer. >> he was in madison and middleton, wisconsin. no.
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no indication. >> where celebration was he contemplating. >> some event in the madison area. >> he planned this for several weeks, for the highland park shooting. any last questions for the state's attorney? all right, folks. this is probably going to conclude our formal press briefings on this matter. if there is breaking news or anything major that does develop, we will call a press conference. otherwise, i would not anticipate major press briefings like this. investigators have months to go continuing their investigation into this. we'll be collaborating very closely with the state's attorneys' office. they will be collaborating with their federal partners. we will be collaborating with our federal partners. any specific questions please reach out directly. >> is he on suicide watch? >> he's been classified now. i don't know. and with that, the end of today's briefing, thank you for staying with us for andrea mitchell reports as we continue
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our coverage of the breaking news from illinois and the highland park mass shooting suspect's first court hearing. identifying both himself and the weapons he carried with him in surveillance video. the judge granting the prosecution's request to hold the suspect without bail and importantly he also revealed that he had driven to madison, wisconsin, had seen a celebration there, and was considering, considering another shooting with the rifle he had in his car. he had about 60 rounds of ammo left. but decided, according to the prosecutor, that he didn't have -- he hadn't done enough planning, so that's when he returned to illinois and he was, of course, apprehended in north chicago. joining us now nbc outside the courthouse. and tom winter. tom, picking up where i left off, on what the prosecutor said, as they are concluding the
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briefings as they conclude the investigation, that they have his cooperation. >> that's right. they did not get into his demeanor, nor did they get into a motive. it's clear they feel like they have more information to gather. i could tell you they have more forensic information to get and to gather his electronics to go through at this point to try to piece together why he did this. but the important highlights are clear. apparently according to them in a voluntary interview, he says he confessed -- he says that he -- well, he says he went to the top of the building, looked through his sights and fired his gun down the street. he went through a second magazine and was into the third magazine. 30 rounds each in those magazines. it is important to know those are not considered extended
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clips for this particular gun. what i would consider would call and so would people in the gun experts would call a popular version of smith and weston's or their version of an ar-15. that 30-round magazine is standard for that gun. it would not necessarily be illegal. 83 rounds were fired in total according to the 83 shell casings they found on the roof. that's when he mentioned the ert team. they're out on the street and conducting additional forensic work. they want to be able to pinpoint. and having seen them do this and present this information at trial previously, they will actually gps locate where each one of those rounds landed so they can link it back to the shooter and they can link it back to the specific victims. the state attorney referenced that, that they're going to charge either some sort of an aggravated battery in a related
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attempted homicide charge for all those that he wounded but did not kill. so those will be the additional charges. next court appearance for him is going to be in august. he's held in custody pending trial. but bottom line is more investigative work to go on this, but the alarming information that we received that there was the potential for another attack in madison, wisconsin, obviously very unnerving. >> indeed. and dasha burns, they have identified a seventh victim now. a seventh victim. so that's, of course, what he's been charged with. what do we know about this seventh person as we have been receiving terrible details just this last hour from the mayor about how aiden mccarthy, the two-year-old was found walking in a garage or in the street. and then it took hours for people to identify who he was. and with some of the other victims, it took so long because people were sheltering.
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it took so long because he was under custody. >> reporter: that's exactly right. we hear more and more stories of victims of survivors and the tragedy and chaos that people in the community experience. that seventh victim is eduardo, 69 years old. seven victims in total. seven people deceased. that is what he will be charged for. initially, that's what he has been charged for, seven counts of first degree murder. if con fikted, that means a life sentence. as we heard there, there will be more charges coming for everyone who was wounded, who was shot by robert crimo iii, the alleged gunman. we know that more than 30 people, andrea, have offered gunshot wounds. every day we're hearing more of those stories. i was just speaking with some families here who were telling me about taking other people's children because people were panicked. they couldn't find their family
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members. this is an event where people would come with 13 or 14 of their family members, parents, and people were grabbing anyone they could, trying to get them to safety. i just spoke with two little girls, 9 and 11 years old. they wanted to talk to me because they wanted other kids to hear that it's okay to be scared, that it's okay to talk about your feelings and that you shouldn't hold these things in. imagine these children, what they had to go through. i want you to hear in their own words what they're experiencing. >> we went over and he wasn't. and that night we slept with our mom. and we didn't know. and i kept waking up with stomach aches, just worrying. i thought it was fireworks and just the parade. and now i'm getting scared of
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like loud noises and when kamala harris was in town, we heard a lot of police sirens and i was -- yeah, i was just scared. and i just went inside really quick. >> andrea, they said they never want to go to another parade again. andrea? >> it's just so awful. and, tom, the fbi victims' response center is opening from noon to 9:00 p.m. today at the highland park high school. >> right. >> and then from 9:00 to 9:00, i think, tomorrow and friday. and people are being urged to go and get help. they could get help for anything that they need. they could start recovering some of their property also. so many things poignantly left behind. >> yeah. it is an important part of the process. not one we often focus on because we focus on capturing or not capturing an individual and the information they derive from their investigations. but the fbi special agents and
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civilian members of those victims' teams do important work in trying to help a community recover. i have seen some of their work firsthand and behind the scenes. for instance at the boston marathon bombing. it is critical work to help individuals move forward, to make sure individuals are ready to testify because they will have to testify against what this person did, what they have apparently confessed to, robert crimo. so that's something that will be an important part of the process as well, by helping this community heal and move on from these tragic interviews that dasha and her other teams in the field are bringing us, letting us know exactly how that community feels. >> thanks to both of you for all your work on this extraordinary, horrible story. moments ago, speaking at the department of justice here in washington, merrick garland speaking about the deadly july 4th shooting in highland park.
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>> this location is just 20 minutes from the house i grew up in. and i know it extremely well. it's just another horrific reminder of the violence and the gun violence that we face and that we must do everything in our power to end. we don't need any more reminders of this. >> the attorney general obviously is speaking here in washington. it hits him close to home. just 20 minutes away from the house where he grew up in. joining us now is lake county state's attorney eric rinehart who just held that briefing. state's attorney, reinhardt, thank you for being with us. i know that you have a huge responsibility here, but what can you share with us from what happened in the courtroom and your revelation that this suspect is cooperating, is
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confessing and has now faced the first degree homicide charges with seven victims? >> yes. good morning, andrea. continue to express condolences for everyone who was affected by this, the seven families that are dealing with their loss of life, loss of life is unimaginable. i live in highland park. this is a devastating to this community. i have been down at the scene. the first responders have done an amazing job. today the lake county judge held this defendant without bond. he is facing a mandatory life in prison sentence in light of the evidence we have and in light of the sentence of a mandatory life in prison, the judge said he would not have access to cash as a way to be released from the jail pending the trial.
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>> what additional charges might be added to these seven counts of first degree murder? >> so we have -- we have over two dozen people who were hurt, who were injured either by gunfire or in the stampede away from the parade. each one of those individuals has a right to justice. each one of those individuals has a right to the support of our office and of really the entire country. anybody who was hit by gunfire will be named as a victim in an aggravated battery or attempt murder count. but, frankly, other people he attempted to murder dozens of other people, if not more. there will be attempt murder charges for other people who were on the parade route. there will be aggravated battery with firearm charges. there will be many, many more charges against this defendant. >> one of the things you revealed in your briefing just now is that when he was on his escape and was on the madison, wisconsin area, he saw a celebration there.
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it was july 4th there as well, of course, and contemplated with the 60 rounds that he still had and the second weapon in his car, apparently hadn't done enough planning so changed his mind. >> yeah. that's exactly right, andrea. that's what we're hearing. he went up to madison. obviously we have evidence that the places in there. we have his statement of the places there. and he had the weapon at that time. it is an incredibly serious situation. that's why i called for a ban on assault weapons in this country. it is too easy to get these weapons. >> i just want to play for you cassie goldstein. she was with her mother at the parade. she's clearly still in shock. i'm not a doctor, obviously, but
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this poor young man having lost her mother was speaking to lester holt last night. >> he shot her in the chest, and she fell down, and i knew she was dead, so i just told her that i loved her but i couldn't stop. >> what is the memory you want to share with us about your mom? >> she was just a good mom and i got 22 years with her. and i got to have 22 years of the best mom in the world. >> and these -- these victims' stories, because i want to focus on them and not on this suspect, these people who have been lost, i mean, you are living in that community. i was talking to the mayor the last hour and she was talking about the two-year-old whose parents died trying to save his life, which they did successfully, this is a lifelong, you know, pain for these people.
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>> it's hard for me to say. highland park, lake county will never be the same. i saw the social media post as we were -- as we were working on. you can see the social media posts crying out who knows this child? at that point you were just hoping that he, you know, that the child has been separated from parents who were also i'm sure desperately looking for him or that the parents were injured or taken away. our worst fears were confirmed in that particular instance, that both parents had been killed. the mayor and the vice president was clear with the congressman, the state reps. everybody has been scene to support. the fbi has done an amazing job on this. there were counselors as well to begin to prepare people for the process. so we have all professionals. it's all hands on deck to support the survivors of this devastating and calculated attack. and our office will continue to
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support those people and continue to support the people, some of whom will go through the court process and some of whom will just have the psychological process of this forever. >> i realize that he purchased these guns legally, but what more responsibility does his father have for signing off on the initial purchase when he was 19 years old? >> we're still investigating a lot of aspects of this case. i don't want to comment too much on the father at this time. i think that it's common sense. it's common sense. the danger that people who have shown that they are dangerous can not have access to these weapons. one way to do that is to invest more in how we help people who are -- who are younger. another way to do that is so get more information from the illinois state police or to other licensing agencies. and yet another way is to ban assault weapons. and, so, there is different ways to get to the problem that should be making us safer.
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that should be the focus. people lost their lives and the people who will be suffering from the psychological and physical trauma have lost their freedom. and their freedom matters, too. because of access to these deadly assault weapons, people are losing their freedom all over the country. and we have to come together as a state and as a nation and say we are not going to allow that. we should have the assault weapon ban present in 1994 with bipartisan support and law enforcement support. we had a bipartisan coalition to have that assault weapon ban in 1994, and we should have it again. >> lake county state's attorney eric rinehart, thank you very much. >> thank you, andrea. and the home game. the increasing pressure state side to get wnba superstar brittney griner out of a russian jail and back to the u.s. phoenix mercury head coach vanessa nygaard joining us live.
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the phoenix mercury on behalf of brittney griner has been in jail for more than two months. she will be back in court tomorrow for what experts are calling a show trial whether there is almost a certainty. there is no innocence before trial in russia. there are no fair trials in russia. griner's handwritten and emotional letter to president biden saying i'm terrified i might be here forever. pleading for him to interview in her case. the white house is expected to respond as soon as today to demands. her wife said she's disheartened she hasn't heart from the president already. joining me is the head coach of the phoenix mercury. coach, thank you very much. i cannot imagine the pressure on you and the team and brittney's friends and family. you are quoted as saying if it
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was lebron, he would be home, right? could you expand on that? why do you think brittney griner is being treated differently than a superstar who is male? >> well, i think it is really a function of the media coverage of one of the sports and how human athletes are valued. we get 4% of the media coverage. so he's got the focus and attention. whoever the athlete, male athlete of equivalent status, of equivalent achievement, the most dominant player in the wnba, i'm sure if it was a male it would be different media coverage. >> what do you want the president to do? >> we just heard he's going to respond to her heart felt letter. b.g. is scared. it's just been heart-breaking for all of us who know her and care about her. it sounds like today he is going to be a response.
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when he makes the action to have her come home after this trial is complete, hopefully she will return to us and we just desperately want to have her back here with our family and friends. >> what do you think, besides the emotional damage, the physical damage is on her? she's being held for more than four months. she's 6'9". she's a superb athlete, a superstar, not able to exercise. caged for two and a half hours each day to and from her court appearances, in a small cage. just the whole process for this woman, a 31-year-old in her prime. >> it must be hell. it must be the most terrible thing. we're talking about a russian prison. and, so, it couldn't be a worse condition i think, and we're just concerned about her and her welfare every day. we have been able to get some
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communication with her via e-mail and through the state department, but it's just so upsetting to know that someone you care about is put in this terrible situation. she's wrongfully detained. and we know in america that we hold freedom very tight and very important to us and b.g., who is the daughter of a vietnam vet, her family served heroically for our country and really loves freedom has really had that taken away. and the idea she said in her letter that she may never have freedom again is just heart-breaking. >> from what you know from her chats, from her e-mail, what is her condition? >> it is what you don't want to hear. it is as best as can be expected. i know i did hear they did get her a longer bed. somebody over there had some empathy for her. but, you know, i think it is extremely, extremely difficult. very different than what we
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would expect for our conditions here. i think she isn't doing as well as anyone would do if they were home. so we just want her to get home. we care about her so much. we hope that president biden will react in a positive manner to bring her back quickly. >> and is there any way that you think he should be bringing her back? doing a deal with vladimir putin, whatever it takes before the trial is over because this trial could take weeks and weeks. they're only meeting like one day a week. >> yeah. you know, i'm not too enlightened on their russian legal system. i know it's a lot different than ours. but i think an exchange will happen at some point, and it is just a matter of time. and, so, we just want the president to put his attention on it. i know there is so many important things happening throughout the country and we don't want to take away from the other things but this is something that 139 days, that's a really, really long time for someone to be wrongfully
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imprisoned in another country and we just want her home. >> you eluded to the fact that women are not treated the same way as lebron and the male superstars. she wouldn't have been in russia if she were making enough money as a, you know, superstar woman athlete in the united states. >> absolutely. they make four to five times as much money playing in russia and other countries overseas. the money that comes from television coverage contracts that the american athletes get to benefit from. so our athletes have to play here year-round, which is wear and tear on their body. they play all over the world in australia, china, russia, turkey, israel. these are different conditions than here in the united states. they're maybe not safe for americans, especially americans that are, you know, a little bit
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different than everyone else. and so, you know, this is something that we are hopeful in the wnba to continue to raise salaries, to continue to get larger tv contracts to our athletes can stay here and play in front of our american fans. >> and what do you hope to achieve by tonight's rally? >> well, more visibility. we're hoping to have a really great turn-out. a lot of people from phoenix come out. we have our government officials locally that have gone to help and just to create more talk, more buzz. we're seeing more celebrities and more people throughout pop culture and other athletes who are really putting attention on to this. and us being here on msnbc, that's a big step to bring more attention to this. so hopefully this will continue. and with the more noise that we can generate, the more attention to it, the more the biden administration will have pressure.
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>> we're getting word there could be some action imminently from the president to arrange a call. we're awaiting word on that. we're putting as much attention on this as we can. thanks for everything that you are doing, you and the team. it's so important. and of course sharell as well. >> thank you. appreciate you for putting attention on this and continue to spread the message about bringing b.g. home. >> and what we're now hearing is that president biden did call sharell biden and that vice president harris as well was on that call and there is a reassurance that he is doing everything to get brittney home as soon as possible. this is major news now and breaking for the first time. the president and vice president have spoken to sharell griner,
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and the president is sending a letter back to brittney griner. vanessa, if you are still with me, do you have any reaction to the president having called sharell after all your pressure and all the things we have been reporting and there has been some action. >> yeah. this is really fantastic news. i know that of all people, there have been tons of pressure. sharell has felt the most pressure. to get that call from vice president harris and president biden to know they read the letter and they are going to react and respond, this is great, great news, and we hope to have more progress continue. >> if you can hang with me for just a moment, this is being reported by our white house correspondent carol lee. she reports the president on this call offered his support to
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sharell and to brittney's family. he is committed to pursue every avenue to bring brittney home. today's call follows recent calls from jake sullivan and the secretary of state. but she has said that was not -- that she wanted to speak with the president. as a result of meeting directly with the president and protesting in front of 1600 pennsylvania avenue as well as in texas when he was on a visit there. that is why sharell has been making such a point on this, going on to carol lee's reporting, coach, the president directed his national security team to remain in regular contact with sharell and brittney's family. wrongfully detained abroad.
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so that's our breaking news. coach, i think from my experience covering this state department, initially there was the belief that everyone should not speak, that before the trial started, before the charges were lodged there was a chance to get her out before it got elevated to the super diplomatic level where vladimir putin could start making huge demands. there was silence from all fronts, but then it became apparent. that was not working and she was charged. she was declared wrongfully detained. that's my understanding of it, coach. >> yes. when she was initially detained, we did try to mute the messaging a little bit, try to get it resolved quickly. that was before the war had broken out in ukraine or as it was starting. and to change that messaging has become more local and brought the message straight to the
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president and amplified or talking points and trying to get more people to speak out. the response has been swift and an uptick in that. our team was briefedly the state department when we were in washington, d.c. for a game and we spoke directly with the officials and the agents working for her release. so we know these people have been working extremely hard. the state department, our local officials, the nonprofits and this news today that president biden has responded, has spoken to sharell and is going to continue to push for her return is probably the best news we have heard in a really long time. and it will be something that we'll be able to talk about at our rally tonight and hopefully this will continue and finally bring this horrible nightmare to an end. 139 days is a really long time. and we're hopeful for that to end as quickly as possible. >> it's a real privilege to meet you virtually and to be able to
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share this good news with you. the first good news we've had in 139 days, and we are watching the rally tonight and continuing to report and so we are looking for the next steps. thank you so very much for being with us today. >> thank you. and coming up next, the next level. what georgia grand jury subpoenas could mean for key trump insiders who pushed to reverse the 2020 election results. this is andrea mitchell reports on msnbc. s andrea mitchell repo s andrea mitchell repo on msnbc
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they are engaged in a fishing expedition, their words, and working with the january 6th committee in washington. continuing, though, another quote. senator graham plans to go to court, challenge the subpoena and expects to prevail. joining me is blaine alexander. also the deputy national editor for the washington attorney. tell us what the d.a. said. >> this was the first time that she has spoken publically since those subpoenas became public yesterday. one, she said that we can expect to see further subpoenas, more subpoenas of people who are trump associates, people in his inner circle in the coming weeks as this investigation continues. i asked her that specifically, and she told me, quote, anything is possible. here is a little bit of our interview. i want to get you to hear
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exactly what she said and the scope of this investigation that she's leading. take a look. >> could we expect to possibly see additional subpoenas from people in former president trump's inner circle or trump associates? >> yes. >> are we talking about family members? are we talking about former white house officials? >> we have to see where the investigation leads us. but i think that people thought that we came into this as some kind of game. this is not a game. at all. what i am doing is very serious. it's very important work, and we're going to do our due diligence in making sure that we look at all aspects of the case. and, so, all you see is a prostitutor doing their due diligence. >> andrea, she made it very clear, right, she takes this very seriously. she takes this investigation very seriously. she also made it clear to me she's not in a rush. this special grand jury is able to convene for up to a year.
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they received it back on may 2nd. so we're talking about a lot of runway for this investigation to continue. i asked her if she could lay out a time line. she did say the one thing she will do is pause around election time. all of this is trickier because of course we have the 2022 midterms coming up and she doesn't want to have the perception she's trying to influence the election. we're not going to see any subpoenas. we're not going to see in indictments until after the election because she wants to make it clear that she's not trying to influence it. now, she did respond. i asked her about that statement from senator lindsey graham and essentially she said this is coming from somebody that doesn't understand the seriousness of what we're doing and she hopes he comes and testifies truthfully before the grand jury. >> great work. what immediately comes to mind, barbara mcquaid, as a former prosecutor, is that the former
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president has decided to accelerate his announcement of a 2024 campaign at considerable cost to his fund-raising capability because of the federal campaign finance laws. but one thought was that might put a freeze on some of these. >> i don't think so, at least not at this stage. the justice department does have a policy that its investigations should not be taken for the purpose of influencing an election, but sometimes they may have that effect. and sort of the unwritten rule there is that around 60 days before an election they should cool it. and i think that would apply to primary elections as well as general elections. but this early isn't going to make a difference. and i don't think it's going to make a difference for her either. she said she's going to suspend her investigation once early voting starts, but that will be for just a few weeks. i don't think he can dodge criminal charges by an early
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announcement of a campaign. >> and, barbara, one other peel point. there is a difference between a special grand jury and a regular grand jury. this grand jury can't indict, but they can certainly turn things over to a regular grand jury, which can proceed, correct? >> right. so georgia has this structure where a special grand jury sits for a longer period of time to be able to work on long-term investigations like this one, which does support the idea that she's not in a hurry. she's going to methodically talk to this group of witnesses. and so often one group of witnesses can give you the names of other witnesses or give you information that can form your questioning of other witnesses. the greatest example of that is cassidy who may not have admissible evidence because much is hearsay but she could lead you to the firsthand witnesses and tell you what questions you need to ask them about why you said this or why you said that. she is going to me thotically do
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that. once the grand jury has that evidence, they can turn it over to a regular grand jury that can issue an indictment. >> what do you make of the names of the people involved? lindsey graham and then the legal team of giuliani and jen ellis and john eastman. >> yeah. i think the prosecutors are looking at these individuals for different reasons. rudy giuliani, of course, was one of the ring leaders of the trump effort to overturn the election. he was advising former president trump in real-time in that period but was also doing a lot of his own communications with election officials all across the country. lindsey graham, the south carolina senator, placed his own phone calls to the secretary of state and georgia to inspire about absentee balloting, to try to see whether there were opportunities to count the vote differently or again that might yield a more favorable outcome for candidate trump.
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and, so i assume that the prosecutors in georgia are going to be trying to question graham about that conversation, about his motive and really big in to whether he was making those calls at the behest of or on behalf of his friend, former president trump. >> thanks so much for bringing us that important interview. it is a big interview. we look forward to seeing the rest of it. thanks again. and the january 6th committee will question former president trump's counsel. the interview will happen behind closed doors. but the videotaping is significant. that means that they can use clips in upcoming hearings. one is scheduled for next tuesday. this coming ahead of the committee's public hearing july 12th. the focus that time will be the violent extremist boys like the proud boys and oath keepers that attacked the capitol that day and how they were inspired by the big lie.
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committee member adam schiff previewing the hearing on lawrence o'donnell last night. we want to shed light on how that mob came to be there on january 6th, how they were called, how they were brought together, what different groups were participating, the relationship between groups, how they were incited. >> and joining me now, republican elections lawyer ben . you have him complying after resisting for quite some time. his closed door testimony is going to be videotaped. he was a critical witness according to cassidy hutchenson's testimony to some of the key elements that don't involve direct conversations with the president. >> they have been aiming at pat for some time. i mean, they have put a circle around his name. and cassidy hutchenson's
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testimony made the pressure that much greater. look, this is the former white house counsel. he is in the job that john dean held during watergate. she was clearly at the center of everything that happened on july 6th. he was the attorney that said if trump went up to the capitol that they would be breaking every conceivable law. they will ask him about all of that. so this is a major development in this investigation and it is one that the january 6th committee has done a great deal to orchestrate. we will have to see what he actually says, but i will say this is another indication that the dam may be breaking, that other people are going to come forward. whether because of their conscious or whether they were shamed by watching a 26-year-old young woman do what they should have done in the first place. who knows? >> and to you, ben, how concerned are you about the threats to members of the
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committee like adam kinzinger and election workers as we saw so vividly from the georgia, you know, woman. >> quite concerned. >> lady ruby and her daughter. >> yeah, quite concerning. and i do a lot of work with elections officials around the country. and the threats and harassment has continued unabated since the election. that's a real problem for the way we conduct our elections and for the ability of elections officials to call balls and strikes. >> you have testified to this committee, and we all know that this committee cannot indict. but you have this fulton county grand jury. we were just talking about that. now senator graham, a sitting member of the judiciary committee, a former jag officer, an attorney and he says he's going to resist. the grand jury, i mean, if he were to take the fifth as certainly john eastman did more than 100 times before the congressional committee, how does a grand jury compel testimony? granting immunity?
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>> well, they could grant immunity. look, it is a problem. he's also not in state. there will be service issues. this -- you know, you're really calling on the greater duty that somebody like senator graham with the background you just outlined really has to come forward and tell the truth. >> and in terms of the committee, charlie, there has been a lot of criticism of the committee and of its being politically unbalanced and you can trace that back, can't you, to kevin mccarthy refusing to go along with it, pointing to members that were clearly not going to be credible. so then you had two republicans willing to participate. >> no. the longer this goes on, the more it appears that kevin mccarthy committed an act of political malpractice by not having some sort of representation on the committee. they have no eyes on what the committee is doing. they are not able to provide any sort of rebuttal. and people need to be reminded
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that there was an opportunity for a bipartisan commission which was torpedoed by the republicans. and he could have had members on the committee who were not actually involved in as possible witnesses or targets of the investigation. so this is kevin mccarthy's choice. but also, i mean, we have to say, you know, what an effective job they have done and what an effective move it was for nancy pelosi to put liz cheney and adam kinzinger on that committee. they are two of the most forceful members of this committee. this was nancy pelosi's decision, that she was going to give this kind of a platform to a very conservative republican, a former member of leadership. i think it is paying off for her. >> ben, i talked to you about the threats against adam kinzinger and adam schiff responded to that. he's obviously had threats. we're not going to play the tape right now of some of the horrible things that were said.
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but as a republican and as someone who has worked pro bono for these election workers that had similar experiences, what would be your message to the party going forward about the kind of abuse of the political system and of, you know, fellow republicans? >> you know, the republican party looks to take control of the party through the political processes. what the party seems to realize in doing these sort of morally incomprehensible things that, should they ever suck sed electoralically, they will face the same problems they are now laying upon the democrats. once you rip apart the fabric that makes this country this country and its elections fabric, you have got a real problem for anybody to govern. and, so, in the short run they think they're playing offense. in the long run, this just den grades the ability of the democracy to function. >> charlie, what about the
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political price that apparently liz cheney is very clearly going to make. adam kinzinger said he's not running. she is running. and she's running against a trump-backed candidate in wyoming and is very far according to recent polling. >> i want to respond to the damage to the country and the threats and the various other attacks on the norms is perhaps making the country ungovernable. she has basically thrown herself on a grenade to protect democracy. i don't think she's under any illusions of what will happen in a republican primary. she is that rare politician, somebody that is willing to give up her leadership goal, give up her seat in congress to do the right thing. i think that needs to be recognized. i think she's one of the people that will, in fact, be stronger and more respected even in defeat. that's something i hope other
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members of congress recognize, that there is an upside doing what you swore you would do when you took the oath. >> of course, we will be carrying the tuesday hearings live, as well as any further action by the january 6th committee as we have been right here on msnbc. thank you so much. and as we have just learned, president biden has called brittney griner's wife. much more on that coming up next. this is "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. a mitchell on our jackets? -denied. -can you imagine? i want a new nickname. can you guys start calling me snake? no, bryan. -denied. -how about we all get quotes to see if we can save with america's number one motorcycle insurer? approved. cool! hey, if bryan's not gonna be snake, can i be snake? -all: no.
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just within the last hour, as the president was set to depart for ohio. i thought it was interesting what you just mentioned. one, the vice president participated in this discussion as well as the administration has been trying to stress this is an all hands on deck effort to try to secure greiner's release, but also while he was on the phone, he read the letter he had already written directsly response to brittany. i think that speaking to something you knowtt well, andr. he always talk about all politics is personal, even foreign policy is personal. we see that in the case of trevor reed, now in the case of brittanyd, greiner, how importa the role of a family is in trying to intercede directly to the presidentng himself, not ev as the president of the united states, but as a man, to try to do everything they can to try to get results, and they have found success in getting the meeting that they wanted so quickly with that her directly to the
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president. it will be interesting, as we see in, and in your consideration with the phoenix coach, what pressure is come from thish, evening's rally wha is complicating the effort, as youll know well, is the view amg administration officials, that russia isng in no mood to reall consider any deal like we saw in the case of trevor reeds under this squall trial that greiner is now facing reaches its conclusion. if and when that is concluded. maybe then those discussions ramp up for a potentially exchange, but so much has to happen between now and then, especially from the perspective the greiner's family. >> mike, exactly right. we'll be watching that rally tonight.
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