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shape. as the 11th hour gets underway on this wednesday night. good evening once again i'm stephanie ruhle. law makers investigating january 6th have scored a major breakthrough. former white house counsel pat cipollone as an insider's white house view of the lasting as agreed to testify under oath. that interview will take place on friday behind closed doors. according to nbc news, his testimony will be trans grabbed on videotape. last week, the can committee sent saponi a subpoena demanding he appear. i came one day after the former white house aide cassidy hutchinson testified. >> mr. cipollone said something to the effect of please don't be sure that we don't go up to the capitol capacity. please trust me.
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we are gonna get charged with every charge imaginable if we do that. in the days leading up to the sixth, we had conversations about potentially obstructing justice or defrauding the electoral account. >> no surprise. tonight the committee says it is eager to hear cipollone's version of how trump and his allies worked to keep joe biden out of the white house despite his legitimate win in 2020. >> we learned quite a bit about things that mr. cipollone said and did from multiple other witnesses. but there are some things we would like to hear from him directly and we hope that we will learn some things from him. he certainly was in the room when a variety of things happened relative to the efforts to overthrow the election. >> we are also learning more tonight about the investigation
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of donald trump's possible into election interference down in the state of georgia. prosecutor in that case is already issued subpoenas to several key allies and today she told nbc news more are coming. >> can we expect to possibly see additional subpoenas from people in former trump's inner circle or trump associates? ? >> yes. >> are we talking about family members, are we talking to former white house? officials >> will just have to see where the investigation leads us but i think that people thought that we came into this as some kind of game. this is not a game at all. >> like we see a subpoena of the former president himself? ? >> anything is possible. we are not ruling out a possibility. absolutely. >> meanwhile, we are also following developments as authorities investigate the fourth of july parade shooting in highland park, illinois. the man charged with killing seven people now being held without bond.
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today authorities revealed he confessed after he was reminded of his rights to remain silent. >> his statement was voluntary. he went in into details about what he had done. he admitted to what he had done. >> officials also said the suspect traveled to madison, wisconsin after the shooting and considered carrying out another attack but decided against it. all of this comes amid questions about how the suspect was able to get several weapons despite having previous contacts with police. with that, let's get smarter with the help of our lead off panel tonight. pulitzer prize from the washington post. katie benner reporter for new york times, and michelle correspondent from pbs. katie, let's start with you. when pat cipollone, this is one of the committees most sought after witnesses. what are they hoping he will tell them that will move this
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investigation forward? ? he is huge. the sky has been with trump forever. >> i think one of the first things we were hoping he will do is he will back up the testimony of other witnesses. he's been in every room, every key moment of every meeting that does occur between election and the january 6th riots and attack on the capitol. you will be able to say whether or not other witnesses their stories are true, whether or not they've told the truth as i see it and whether lines up of his perception, and more than any other witness he was close to what trump was thinking. he helps us get inside what was in the president says. it's interesting to see how the committee, particularly liz cheney has focused attention of pat cipollone. she in one hearing called him up by name and asked him to come in, and then after some of the most compelling testimony that we heard last week, she made this plea thing democracies are run afoul when people know the difference between right and wrong. particularly during the nixon
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administration, it was dean who gave up executive privilege because he felt when president nixon had done was wrong, and it's clear that liz cheney is hopeful that we will see the same from pat cipollone. >> so, you know how to get inside trump's head. you know the trump's white house better than anyone i know. help us understand cipollone's role, how close he was to trump, because we have all seen trump 's playbook. after anyone speaks against him, they were low level, they didn't know much, they weren't involved. you can't say that about pat. >> that's exactly right, stephanie. pat cipollone was one of the most senior most officials in the white house in the final months of his presidency certainly and he was loyal to former president trump. he is not considered a lackey the way that mark meadows was. he's not family like jared kushner and ivanka trump, but he was loyal, and he has been protective of the former
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president in the year since he left office. for example, he has not written a memoir. he has not done a tell-all, he is not done big national media interviews where he is baird's soul and shared all of the secrets, and i think that's why he is such a highly prized witness for the january 6th committee, because there's a lot that he saw, a lot he heard, a lot that he said that has not been known yet publicly. so he can certainly fillon a lot of the gaps about what was going on in the oval office and the private dining room where the president was throwing is and having those conversations. pat was there a lot of those moments and he can fill in a lot of that information for the committee. >> all, he could've filled in a lot of the information for the committee for months and months but didn't. why is he coming forward now? ? a >> fell he's coming forward
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now because there's been increased pressure on him to do so in the last few days since the cassidy hutchinson testimony. cassidy hutchinson remember said that it was pat cipollone who warned privately on january six that if the president were to make that move to go to the capitol the could be crimes. so he was invoked and a really dramatic way and meanwhile the committees members publicly have been increasing pressure on him to testify, so he has agreed to come. it could last for several hours on friday. he of course went forward earlier and that informal conversation with the committee but was really sticking to this claim of executive executive presidential privilege and did not reveal the kinds of details at the committee is hoping he will share on friday. >> help us understand this. if cipollone is feeling the pressure but mark meadows not so much? ? a >> it's an incredible split screen you have here with the former white house counsel
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coming forward and saying that he is going to be sitting down for this transcribed testimony. of course mark meadows the former white house chief and chief of staff is continue continued to say that he is covered by executive privilege and doesn't need to come forward. i think pat cipollone's very interesting. they said about his role that cassidy hutchison evoking the same, i'm interested in the idea that this meeting at the white house where former president trump was close to possibly doing away with the acting attorney general and installing another acting attorney general, jeffrey clark, was very interested in trying to get the states to overturn the elections. pat cipollone was saying that that was not a good idea. he was also as someone who looked -- was seen as teen normal. so pat cipollone as much as he is someone as seen as loyal to
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president trump, he was somebody had to be the lawyer to all these moves and actions that president trump wanted to take. so there's also this transparency that he can bring in that moment. also those hundred 87 minutes between when the capital riot began and when former president trump's finally spoke out against it. what was going on in that time period? ? pat cipollone can be critical to that lawmakers say that is a key focus of their investigation. >> you know what happened during those hundred 87 minutes? ? nothing normal, which is why the name team normal is incorrect and irrelevant no matter how much they want to be known as the. after cipollone speaks on friday, we're all a couple of days from the nectarine. what are you hearing that we should expect? ? >> the committee has talked about the fact that they want to talk into extremism and the proud boys, they will be definitely looking for that next. we also still looking for whether or not they're gonna be any witnesses that come forward.
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the key thing that i haven't heard yet is former president trump knew that he lost and decided to lie anyways. i'm looking for someone who's close to president trump, was in some room, because now it's very clear that former president trump was told over and over again, you lost the election by's campaign aides, by his lawyers, miles or so people. but did he even at one moment acknowledge that he had lost and said here's the plan anyway. i'm very much interested in whether or not the hearings that are coming up whether or not they get to that. the other thing as i said, is there a direct connection between him in the proud boys. i'm gonna be very interested to see whether or not there was any meeting or financial ties that they can prove to say here's a direct connection that up until now is being missing. >> you know what i'm interested in hearing. from jenny thomas, wife of supreme court justice clarence thomas. no word on when and if that could happen. katie, let's talk georgia. it was the prosecutor
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prosecuting in her election interference or. says more subpoenas are coming. what does that mean? ? last time we heard all about. lindsey graham, he subpoenaed. a likelihood that we are going to hear from him, he's already fighting it. what do you know about that today? ? >> i think what we are seeing down in georgia is an extremely aggressive investigation against president donald trump. alexa what we haven't seen before. we saw the mueller investigation was very aggressive looking at russian election interference. ultimately, robert mueller decided -- then we saw this investigation in new york. georgia is really fascinating. she should recognize the people did not think she was serious and be as aggressive as others had been in going after possible crimes related to the election. one of the things that you're seeing with the subpoenas that
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fani willis has already issued is that she is incredibly serious,. she is laying the groundwork for any federal prosecutor to say, no one has to be off the table. we do not have to treat this with kid gloves simply because we're looking at people close to a former president. it is a somewhat controversial point of view. obviously they think that possible prosecuting the former president is extremely controversial and should be treated with a lot of caution. she really does believe that every stone must be overturned. i think that's one of the big takeaways. another takeaway is that this is an investigation that the justice department is looking at closely, to see whether or not she actually does charge anyone close to the trump orbit and what does that mean if she does it doesn't. >> of course it's controversial to look into a president of the united states, but if there's wrongdoing, they gotta do what they gotta do. let's actually talk about the current president joe biden.
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i know you are within no high today. political reporting that some democrats are not happy with his response to the highland shooting, saying it wasn't enough. what is the white house think about that? >> well the white house is saying that president biden like every mass shooting that he said to speak about that he is someone's for gun reform, is someone who's passionate about, it is someone who understands losing a loved one. but it is interesting to see democrats push back on that. we've heard from the vice president is a little bit forceful saying enough is enough in her statement. there's some saying that harris is stepping up and someone more prominent. it's also very interesting because he's juggling so many challenges even at this meeting and this event and responds to be talking about pension plans in the american rescue act, the first thing we had to talk about was jaylen walker this african american man was shot
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60 times by police 40 miles south of cleveland and akron, ohio. started by saying the justice department would be looking at that case, they're monitoring it. for any right violations of federal law they would look into. it and got into the economy, all the things you want to say to union workers, but it just tells you all the different things this white house is juggling. whether it's guns, police violence of course inflation which poll after poll as shown that's where americans minds when it comes to a top priority, because so many people are worried about pocketbook issues, higher prices, gas prices all the things that people are dealing with. well, we should note, gas prices, they are going down. katie, we actually heard from merrick garland today. i want to share a little bit of what he said. >> you need to reflect on the horrific event in highland park, illinois. this location is just 20 minutes from the place i grew up in. and i know it extremely well.
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it's just another horrific reminder of the violence and the gun violence that we face and that we must do everything in our power to and. we don't need any more reminders of this. >> all right. we don't need any more reminders. they must do everything in their power. what is in the department of justice's power in terms of fighting gun violence? anything that we're not currently getting? >> so far, the justice department assess that department officials are in the area and they're basically working with community groups and police to try to make sure that there is not more violence, to make sure that there, is you know, consider to be healing in dialogue. and to sort of get the community and the police in mind. on this investigation, they are trying to better understand what happened. but, for the department of justice, what they can do is they can force laws on the books. and so, a lot of people have noted that these guns were obtained legally. and it raises a bigger question around gun reform gun
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legislation for the department and what they can do is not force. but with the cannot do is make new laws or reach beyond existing laws. >> neither can the white house. but, issues like gun violence and abortion rights are becoming more and more important to the american people. and a challenge for the biden white house. phil, do they have any plans to address either one of these big challenges? >> well, stephanie, they are continuing to address these challenges rhetorically from day today. , but there is a lot of kind of pent up frustration in the democratic party that this is a precedent that is failing to meet the moment. it is a moment of national crisis in the mind of many progressive democrats and, you know, they look to the white house for leadership for fight, for rhetoric -- but also for sort of, policy proposals. and they are not seeing the kind of response to a crisis that they feel this president should be putting out. >> all of this happening, and we haven't even mentioned there
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is a war going on in ukraine. i don't think i've said it in days. that is how many challenges we are facing right now, it is a lot. phil rucker, katie benner, yamiche alcindor. thank you so much for starting us off this evening. coming up next, chuck rosenberg is here on the multiple investigations involving the former guy. we're going to break down what is next in georgia after senator lindsey graham, i mentioned in a moment ago, promised, he is going to fight his subpoena. and later, is the white house doing enough? not just to fight all these challenges. but to sell president biden's wins. how frank and michael steele are here to discuss some of the bipartisan accomplishments and what they could mean for the midterms. the 11th hour, just getting underway on this wednesday night. midterms the 11th hour, just gettin underway on this wednesday
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he was actually involved in some of the wrong doing. here, i haven't seen any evidence or pat cipollone was involved in any of the wrongdoing. in fact, he tried to stop. it, but he is similar to john dean in the sense that not only does he have the same position, white house counsel. but he was right there in the room when some of these conversations took place. so, he could have turned out to be a really central witness to this whole investigation. >> a preview from the former senior investigator of the january six committee of what is still to come. the panel still gathering evidence, of course. you heard the committee's big gap, we've been talking to it
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all hour. what else counsel, pat cipollone, again, he has reached a deal to be interviewed behind closed doors on friday. that will be transcribed and videotaped. so, let's discuss. we'll bring in chuck rosenberg, former u.s. attorney and former senior fbi official. chuck, pat cipollone is a big get. however, given his role in the white house, could he evoke executive privilege and not really answered the thing? >> well, yes and no. let me explain, stephanie. there is such a thing as executive privilege. i mean, it's a real thing. it's a real privilege. there is white house counsel, he may have had some conversations with the former president that are in fact privileged. but, can he answer anything, of course there are things that he can answer. and, if those sides approach this in good faith, right the house committee and mr. cipollone and his lawyers, it can carve out a path and a whole bunch of other things he can answer. for instance, conversations that are not privileged.
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conversations with third parties. things that he saw an overheard. other people he talked to. so, yes, there is an executive privilege. yes it might come into play with respect to certain things that the committee wants to know. but there is a bunch of things that cipollone can testify to. and it is really important for both sides to approach this in a constructive way in good faith. >> is the committee building a criminal case against trump with these hearings? and, do you think that they are sending more information to the justice department, more than what we are seeing? >> so, they are not technically building a criminal case. but effectively stephanie, are they doing that? maybe. i mean, look, we have seen a tiny fraction of what they have, right? assuming they have more than 1000 witnesses and tens of thousands of documents, we have seen a tiny fraction of that. i, mean it would be like reading the first three pages of warren hughes and writing a book report. not as if i've ever done something like that in college.
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but, it is really, really hard for us to do what they, have what they are sharing, with the justice department has and how they are using. it i think we have to keep in mind two things. one is that the committee is doing a good job presenting a story, a tale, right? the events of what happened before, during and after january six. i commend them for that. and, to, whatever the justice department is doing, and we only occasionally get a glimpse of, it it is a very different mission. because they would ultimately have to prove their case in federal court, to a jury beyond a reasonable doubt. so, you, know committee is doing a fine job. it has been good television. it is an interesting hearing. but, we have seen only a tiny fraction of what they have acquired. >> let's talk about the george of prosecutor investigating trump for possible 2020 election fraud -- excuse, me election interference. yesterday, lindsey graham was issued a subpoena and he has no promised to fight it.
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watch for the set. >> nobody wants to come to the prosecutors party, that is just kind of part of the work that we do. we will take it before the, judge and the judge will make a ruling if we have a legal right to bring them before the court. my job is not to bring you here because you want to come, my job is to make sure that the grand jurors get all of the evidence they want. >> is lindsey graham just running the clock care? or can he win this case and fight the subpoena? >> yes, great question. so, we just talked about puck cipollone and the fact that they seem to be acting in good faith on both sides to carve out effect. it doesn't seem to be the case with lindsey graham, right now. so, the constitution article one, section six has this speech and debate clause privilege. so, members and either the house or senate really can't be called to answer questions about things they do in the legislative process. but, again, there is a bunch of things that might be speech and
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debate clause privilege. and there's a bunch of things that may not be. and so, if lindsey graham wanted to act in good faith, and meet with the prosecutors in georgia, he could carve out a path. as he's trying to run out the clock, it sounds like it. because the georgia prosecutors have to litigate the speech and debate clause, it could get messy, it could take a very long time. >> you might not want to go to the prosecutors party, but i am pretty sure socially insistent. so, what do you think the logical next steps are in this georgia investigation? >> well, they seem to be taking a lot of people to the next step. now, they are trying to talk to people who are close to the president. just like the house committee wants to talk to pat cipollone because he was close to the president. proximate to him. the folks in georgia want to talk to the people who were given president trump legal advice, right? rudy giuliani and lindsey graham and john eastman and -- mitchell and sidney powell, and folks like that. and that is important
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stephanie. because, as you and i have discussed, getting into the president said, which is admittedly a pretty uncomfortable and scary place to be, is not easy. and, so the way you do that is by talking to the people who talk to him. what did he know? what did they understand? what did he intend? and, the more people like that that you can talk to, assuming they tell the truth, which might be a big assumption on somebody's character, the better that you could divide the presidents intent. and that is what prosecutors would need if they were to bring a criminal case. we would also to prove, in addition, to all the elements of whatever offense the charge, they would also have to prove that. >> assuming they tell the truth, reminder, they are under oath. chuck rosenberg, you always make a smarter every time you are here. thank you for staying up late with us. coming up next, a look at the list of wins for president biden so far. we'll be talking to our friends, al franken and michael steele if the white house is doing a good job selling those accomplishments.
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when the 11th hour continues. job selling those accomplishments. when the 11th hour continues
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no, i am serious, because we have been come so divided. >> joe biden is witnessing some of that division within his own party. with just over four months to go until the midterms, some democrats are demanding more funding. they want to see him get angrier over gun violence, and disappearing abortion rights. voters put democrats in power with a very narrow majority and in return they got an ambitious covid rescue plan, a bipartisan infrastructure law and bipartisan gun reform. if democrats want more of their legislative priorities addressed, then they should be eager to vote. so let's discuss. with us tonight, former minnesota democratic senator al franken, who host a podcast bearing his name, former chairman of the republican national committee and former lieutenant governor maryland. how, would you think of the argument. biden's got a lot done that should motivate democratic voters not get them angry.
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>> i agree with her. democrats should stop complaining and get to work. that's how you win elections. stop working against ourselves and instead get out to vote. i won my first election by 312 votes. i know every vote matters and your listeners or your viewers -- you know they can volunteer. they can call people democrats who maybe voted in the last midterm and get them out. get off your butt democrats. stop complaining and win this. this is an incredibly important midterm. if we pick up two senate seats, and there is the chance that we can get legislation done and do something about the filibuster and accomplish what democrats
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want to achieve. the accomplishments that a be talked about were all very big accomplishments. >> then why doesn't the president get more credit for the michael? think about former president trump. she was a real estate guy, you know many infrastructure deals yet. i can't even count that high. biden got it done. biden got us through covid. think about where we were two years ago versus where we are today. does this white house need to do a better job selling this making this point >> so to your first question, why haven't they communicated, it's because their messaging socks. they are just god awful at messaging. >> why >> why these are professionals. i mean, how knows what it takes to put together an uphill campaign against the odds. as he just told you, he won by
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312 votes. how do you think he got those extra 312 votes he message to the right way to the people in the state who were probably largely suspicious because of his background. because he was a comedian, because he wasn't a democrat. but he found a way to touch that sweet spot for those voters. this is not complicated. in fact, this is a hell of a lot easier for democrats now because you just said it. they put in place a covid strategy that was affected, they put an infrastructure bill after republicans talked about infrastructure for god knows how many years, and they also lay the foundations to try to readjust the economy for the country. yeah, the war kind of threw a wrench in that, but they still have an opportunity to go up to the voters to tell them exactly what they have done. beyond that, they also have to be aware of what the voters don't want. and what they don't want is big massive explosion of government
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spending right now on the heels of what has amounted to roughly 10 to 12 trillion dollars of money being infused into this economy since 2017. so the reality for a lot of those voters with respect to democrats is, thank you for getting us off stupid, so we're past the trump era. now, lay down the chart for the next two years, okay? see if we're interested -- there's some things we're interested in but i don't want to see this expansive buildup of government spending right now because i am concerned about these other priorities closer to me. gas prices et cetera. >> how, if mike is right and, is as he eloquently put it their messaging socks how do you change? that the event that the president did that today, going out there selling a successes. it's not the kind of thing the
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breakthrough >> of course you have to talk about your accomplishments. elections are a contrast who you are running against. what have republicans stood for in the last five years and their leader donald trump people watching january 6th hearings, they are paying attention. we have seen some movement in the polls because of the. right now the generic polling is even. we've got 3 to 4 months until the midterms and that's the time to make that contrast. if we get two more senators -- even with maybe one, we can get bills that most americans think that high-ranking people should pay more taxes.
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republicans believe that. right michael? >> well, we will talk about the. >> or maybe not established republicans like you but, i bet you trump supporters want to see that. >> i'm sure they're crazy enough to follow that line -- >> will talk about that at a different time. >> and we can, we put a lot of money into the economy already. i think the country is a lot less worried about tax policy right now to be honest. i think the more concerned about gas prices and inflation, and raising taxes does not help either of those. >> let me say one thing. i'm sorry michael. i want to say one thing about inflation. what's the inflation rate in hungary? ? and i know you know >> it's about what it is here. >> it's higher than it is here -- >> listen, you are absolutely right and right here on the
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show many nights we go through inflation around the globe. in hungary, in brazil, what it is. but the problem is, when your neighbor goes to the grocery store, they are not thinking about when x cost in hungary. that's just what they're not thinking about at the gas pump. you have the facts on your side, but people vote based on how they feel and how to address. and >> i totally understand the. >> i would think you get, that i don't understand. >> i get that the price you pay at the pump is very, very important. when when you need to fill up at the track is very important economically. but you talk about ukraine. the presidents leadership on that was tremendous, putting that coalition together. we have to sell the importance of that. i realize that these are maybe complex issues -- the relationship of inflation
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to the price of gas to ukraine, but what else would we do. >> let me give you the complexities real quick going into the fall. republican messaging are two points. one -- the democrats have ruined the economy. that's why you're paying high prices at the gas tank. >> well that point is not true. >> doesn't matter. number two. with republicans, democrats want to groom our kids. >> also not true. >> we know that. >> and incredibly offensive. >> not true and not true. >> and michael i know you don't believe that. >> hold on, i'm not gonna let either of you go anywhere but we do have to take a quick break. we have more to cover on the other side. stick around. we're talking rhonda scent is. r side stick around stick around we're
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that he's done in florida make me feel that way. he's a smart guy. but, i have to say that it is still 2022. and indulging -- that's what the segment isn't about, it's kind of the parlor game about who is going to be the nominee in the party, who was the front runner in 2014 for the republican party. i just think that this is about, we should be thinking -- democrats should be thinking about the midterm. we should be talking about things like abortion. i, mean we talk about an issue with democrats, that americans favor, and they favor the position that most democrats -- i think that's what americans should be poignant about. this is what we should be thinking about now and working for. >> all right, then, let's get out of the parlor games and get
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into the president. something that is hugely important or should be hugely important to all americans's voting rights. michael, should voting rights protecting voting rights, be a bigger priority for the biden administration? because unfortunately it is not a top kitchen table issues. >> it should be a big priority for everybody. starting with the biden administration, i contended that the state of the union, quite honestly, should've been about 90% about democracy. tying the emerging war to our own freedom here at, home why these battles matter, the impact that they have. i mean, look, going back to our last segment, i'm sure that all and i would both agree that we can debate all day long about the price of a loaf of bread, and we can debate all day long about inflation. but, if we can vote, if we can't freely assemble, if we
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can't not exercise the rights that are duly given under the constitution, none of that matters. none of. it >> but why -- >> why would that cost when you can't get to the poll when grandma has to take seven votes to get to the polls. because they restrict her district and they move all the polling places around out of her neighborhood because it is largely black and brown. so, voting, stephanie, is fundamental. and it's not just about an election cycle, it is 24/7 all year. you've got to stand on that wall to protect it. >> then why isn't that a bigger, why isn't that a bigger issue for voters, then i'll. they are not thinking about it or they won't until these rights are protected and then they're gone? >> well, michael is completely right. this is a huge threat. and you saw that the supreme court is taking this north carolina case.
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which is a complete threat to our democracy. it's basically this theory that state legislature is powered by the constitution to control all elections without state judges, weighing in the secretary of state. this is extremely dangerous. this is an extremely dangerous court. and we saw that. and that needs to be an issue in this campaign. not just abortion but guns need to be an issue in this campaign, there's a whole host of stuff that the supreme court is doing that will threaten our democracy forever. and to fix the 2024 election, essentially by allowing state legislatures in pennsylvania and in michigan and wisconsin to overturn the results as trump wanted to do, as eastman wanted to do. this is an exodus then shull
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threat to our democracy. and i am glad michael is saying that that -- should be the number one issue. >> we're gonna keep talking about it right here. gentlemen, thank you for joining us tonight. always great to see you both. al franken, and michael steele. >> thank you. >> coming up next, it is another underreported aspect of the american economy. something that overshadowed by rising prices and recession fears. we are going to bring you a little bit of good news before we signed off tonight. are going to bring you little bit of good new ♪ and party every day. ♪ ♪ i want to rock and roll all night ♪ applebee's late night. because half off is just more fun. now that's eatin' good that my daughter had a heart attack really shook me. it brings home how important it is to
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economy is like when i was electing a country in a pandemic with no real plant have to get out of it. millions of people out of their jobs. families and cars, remember, backed up for literally miles. waiting for a box of food to be put in their trunk. just a box of food to be put in their trunk because they didn't have enough teeth. previous administration, lost more jobs than this watch than any administration since herbert hoover. >> the last thing before we go tonight, jobs, jobs, jobs. we already said it. high prices at the grocery store and the gas pump have americans upset about the direction of the economy. but, the president, today, was talking up what has been a very bright spot in recent months. the job market.
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today, the bureau of labor statistics reported that even after creating almost 400,000 new jobs in may, employers, they wanted to hire even more people. the government says, they were close to 11.3 million job openings that month. almost two jobs for every unemployed person. well, with so many open positions, over 4 million americans quit their jobs in may. so, the great resignation, the realignment or reassessment, whatever you want to call it, it is still going on. people feel confident enough about their financial position over their potential new job, that they can walk away from what they are currently doing. and employers, they know it. so, they are doing whatever they can to hold on to their workers, -- layoffs for example, they are now at almost record lows. let's say you go into a restaurant, you finally have all the stuff you need for the summer. we're probably going to do everything you can to keep those employees happy and working. so, what about those warnings that a recession is on the way?
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with inflation as high as it is, with the federal reserve raising interest rates, it is definitely a possibility. but, as one economist told us, what we are experiencing in the job market, this is not weather recession looks like. we're going to get an even better look at how employment distilling this friday morning, through the labor department released the much anticipated june jobs report. but, until then, i want to leave you with the reminder. that there is actually good economic news out there. and we wanted to be sure you knew. and on that very good, note i want to wish you a very good night. from all of our colleagues across the network of nbc news, thanks for staying up late with us. i will see you at the end of tomorrow. late wit us i will see


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