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challenge the legitimacy of another kicks into high gear. then two weeks after the reversal of roe v. wade, the ability to obtain an abortion is simply going away in some states. we will ask one state lawmaker about what happens now. plus with the next mass shooting likely just days or even hours away, we talk with a big city police chief of how the bitter politics over at the second amendment is playing out among enforcement, as the 11th hour gets underway on this thursday night. good evening, once again, i am stephanie ruhle. the investigation into how we came this close to not having a peaceful transfer of power after the 2020 election is about to enter a critical phase. tomorrow, the committee carrying out that inquiry sets down with a key witness. trump's former white house counsel, pat cipollone. testimony for the last week's hearing revealed that he raised red flags about the efforts to
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try to keep trump in office were dangerous. also, there are reports that a week from tonight, the committee will hold what is expected to be the final hearing in primetime tv. but so far, the committee members are not officially confirming this. and hearing scheduled for tuesday, lawmakers will focus on far-right groups that attacked the capitol on january 6th. >> we will be connecting the dots as people know, and as mr. raskin has indicated publicly, we are looking at the connections between the various extremist groups. this wasn't just an event that unfolded. it was planned. who did the planning, and who were they connected with, how did it unfold, and i think we will be connecting dots. it'll be new information that has not yet been learned. i think it'll be worth watching. >> and as the january six panel digs for more evidence,
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pointing to trump's direct a role on the insurrection, the former guy will be campaigning for candidates and raising cash. tomorrow, while lawmakers are grilling his former white house counsel, guess where he'll be? the state of nevada, at a rally for gop candidates for senate governor. in the washington post now reporting that trump has found a new line of work. he is now giving speeches to supporters who pay to see him. the post says this new venture allows trump to raise money that doesn't have to go to his political action committee. what does that mean? it means he gets to pocket the cash for himself. meanwhile, we are tracking the fallout from the dramatic announcement from british prime minister, boris johnson, that he is stepping down as conservative party leader. johnson resigned under pressure from his own party after a series of scandals. >> it is clearly now the will of the parliamentary conservative party, that there
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should be a new leader. the herd instinct when herd moves it moves. how sad i am to be giving up the best job in the world. but thems the brakes. >> them are the brakes indeed, we will have more on boris thompson and what this means for the war in ukraine just ahead. back at home, it was a day of celebration at the white house. president biden honoring 17 americans with a medal of freedom. the nation's highest civilian honor for their service, and for their sacrifice. >> the fourth of july week reminds us what brought us together long ago. and still binds us. binds us at our best. we strive for it, what we strive for. we the people, doing what we can to ensure the idea of america, a cause of freedom, shines like the sun to light up the future of the world. that is the soul of our nation. that is who we are as
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americans. and that is who we see an extraordinary, extraordinary group of americans up on the stage. that i have the honor to recognize today, with the presidential medal of freedom. our nation's highest civilian award. >> with that, let's get smarter. with the help of our lead off panel this evening. jeff mason joins us, white house correspondent from borders, before that worked across europe covering the eu. and look who is back with us! andrew weizmann, former fbi general counsel, and former senior member of the mueller probe. he is now a professor at nyu law school, and tonight marks his official return on msnbc as a legal contributor. let's also welcome former florida congressman, carlos curbelo, with a member of the republican congress conference for more than two years during the trump presidency. >> mr. weizmann it's your first night back, i want to welcome you, and i can tell you, many many viewers have been writing in, calling in, wondering where
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are you? when are you coming back? so i want to officially welcome you, you have been missed. >> thanks so much stephanie. great to be here. >> now let's get to work. let's say you were in that investigation room, with january six committee, what are the top questions you would ask pat cippolone? >> i think the main thing to remember, and obviously this is a field day for anyone who is in that room, is that this is not just about what happened on january six. and obviously there are a lot of questions there about following up on what miss hutchinson said. you want to know what was done about the crowd, about danger, about them being armed, about whether there was danger to mike pence, and what presidents knew was going to the capitol and about whether he really was indifferent to he danger of the vice president of the united states. that is one topic. but the other thing you really have to keep your eye on is all
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the other prongs and conspiracy that the committee has laid out. which is, what is going on at the state level caused to georgia, and other states. the slate of the collectors. how that was put together. and what was going on our department of justice. where was the president wanted to do was to get rid of the acting attorney general, to put it in a flunky, he was going to say that there was an investigation into fraud. so you want to ask about all of that, and find out what pat view was, and what he articulated to the presidents. what did he say about whether those things were legal or illegal. >> what does that matter? >> what he articulated? >> so if you are at the department of justice, and you are trying to figure out what the president's intent was, if you have your counsel saying, this is illegal, do not do it. and so remember, miss hutchinson said, make sure he doesn't go to the capitol
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because if he goes, we are gonna face all sorts of criminality. you want to find out exactly what pat cippolone said, because it would really help the department of justice in deciding whether there was criminal case out there to be brought against the former president. >> and remember, trump might want to say that cassidy hutchinson is a low level, he didn't know or she wasn't connected. can't make that claim about pat cipollone. jack, so next week, we are expecting one passively to hearings, how might the committee learn from cipollone tomorrow, determined what happens next week? >> while staff, i think it starts with what he may or may not confirm from what cassidy hutchinson said. and that will lead to the next round of questions that they use for the hearings next week. one person who may be testifying next week is a former deputy press secretary, for president trump, who has been very critical and resigned on january 6th after the insurrection.
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so we will see what she will have to say and what they end up getting from cipollone. whether or not he uses to confirm what she said in her testimony, whether or not he goes further. or whether he pleads the fifth as others have done, or tries to be very careful in his testimony tomorrow. >> okay, and that is the thing, andrew, and carlos i promise i'm going to get to you. are we putting too much weight on what we are gonna hear from cipollone? everybody and their brother connected to trump loves to claim executive privilege, or loves to plead the fifth. isn't cipollone the one guy who actually has a case to make around executive privilege? he was the actual lawyer. >> so i think he has a possible argument about attorney client privilege. but that has previously been rejected when that was raised and mentioned with the can star investigation involving bill clinton. so i don't think that is going to go very far. and when we expect executive
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privilege, that is one that the current president needs to assert. and the current president has not asserted that. so those are all things that can be litigated by pat cipollone, but i don't think they're gonna go really far in this instance. and i presume that there is already been an agreement and at least connection with the interview tomorrow as to what topics are fair game and whether or not. if pat cipollone is served with a federal grand jury subpoena, those issues can come back and need to be litigated in federal court. >> carlos, i want to ask you about cipollone's own words. because during trump's first impeachment, we heard pat cipollone himself give a very robust argument against overturning an election, when he asked the senate not to vote to remove trump from office. watch this. >> they are asking you to tear up all of the ballots across this country, on your own
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initiative, take that decision away from the american people. so i ask you to defend our constitution. to defend fundamental fareness. to defend due process rights. but most importantly, to respect and defend the sacred right of every american to vote and to choose their president. >> maybe i am naive. is he under no obligation to now stand by the same idea when he testifies tomorrow? >> he is, stephanie. and what by many accounts cipollone is a man of integrity. he is a man of the law. obviously he did stand in the way of the former president and politically, his testimony, even if he doesn't say a lot, but if he says anything at all that undermines donald trump, the way that ivanka trump did. the way bill barr did, and so many obvious ways.
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this could be another big hit politically to donald trump. we have already seen his numbers suffer as a result of these hearings. people are really understanding, connecting the dots, and coming to terms with what happened on january six of 2021. and if cipollone says anything that undermines trump, that reveals that he believed trump was lying and trying to steal the election, in the way that he described before the united states senate. i think we will see that as another big load to trump, i think we will see even more republicans, perhaps quietly, but certainly moving away from the former president. >> take me there, take us there quietly, because you are the person still talking to those republicans inside the gop. do you believe these hearings are putting a real dent in their plans for the midterms? >> definitely, stephanie. so many congressional republicans even before these hearings understood privately, that donald trump is a threat to the republic.
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that he has lied over and over again. that he is totally unreliable and i cannot trust. as this information becomes public, as the committee continues interviewing republicans who are very close to the president, some who remain loyal to the president, who are at the same time, making it clear that the president was lying, that this was all just something extraordinarily dangerous. republicans are moved more and more every day to shift away from the former president trump. they understand there is real peril there, and some actually really do care about the country, and know the dangers that donald trump represents for the country. >> andrew, do you think there are any real attempts on the committees part to sit down with ginni thomas and hear what she has to say, even if she doesn't want to cooperate? >> and how important is it?
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>> i do think it's frankly a little bit of a sideshow. if i were there, i am not saying that her role and the issue of clarence thomas and whether he should recuse itself is not a serious issue. but i do think it is important to keep your eye on the goal here. which is evidence about a plot to overthrow a democratic election. even frankly, at the expense of the life of the vice president of the united states. and it's hard to see anything that is more important than getting all the facts about that plot out. so i do think the ginni thomas thing is important, obviously the recusal issue is very important, but i do think it's secondary to the main issue here.
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>> i want to turn to boris johnson. jeff, you were covering the eu, you covered borscht on sand, what is your take on all of what has happened, especially given his relationship with trump, what is your reaction? >> it's interesting about that today, boris johnson very much like trump is someone who normally, traditional rules just did not apply. when ministers started flying away, or people from his cabinet started leaving, my initial thought was this is not spell doom for boris johnson. of course it did because the system over there is different from the system over here. he needed parliamentary support and needed support from his party, from his cabinet, and it just eroded. trump and johnson were very similar. are very similar, from the bombastic style. the two of them got along pretty well, i watch them interact together. they were kindric spirits in some way, and i think that in the and, maybe part of what
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became johnson's downfall. no longer seen as just this charismatic leader who is funny and had a funky hairstyle but became a little bit more. of a moving in the automatic direction and telling lies. and things like that that puts british people and his cabinet and his own supporters just does not accept. >> well they will soon be both unemployed men, they can hang out together. carlos, i want to share with the washington post wrote when he wrote that the resignation of british prime minister boris johnson is a testament to the power of elected politicians to hold their leaders accountable. it is a lesson that has been lost on our republican party officials as they have weighed repeatedly with how to deal with former president donald trump. is that about right? wright is there a lesson the republicans here can learn from the conservative party in england? >> what an example from british conservatives saying we refused to follow someone who is unfit
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to lead. they have demonstrated that you are not hopeless, you are not helpless just because you are a republican, you do not have to follow donald trump. there are republicans who have survived primary challenges this cycle against donald trump. it can be done, it's good for your integrity and it's good for the country, so i do think the tories across the pond steph have provided a great example to republicans in the united states in showing them that there is a better way. that if someone is unfit to lead, you don't have to follow them, you can find someone else. >> gentlemen, we are out of time, but before we go, angdrew i need to ask you what i think is the most pressing question the segment. what in the world kind of animal is sitting behind you and what appears to be a bed? it possibly looks like a skunk. why is that? >> that is my incorrigible dog which is an english cocker spaniel.
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>> what is his name? >> he has a mind of its own. inis, sorry, he just goes wherever he wants. >> listen, i am thrilled that innis was on with us tonight and i'm sadly sleeping through the show because you did a backup job. andrew weiss, jeff mason and carlos corello, thank you all for being here this evening, i appreciate it. coming up, more on the boris johnson and what it means for the uk for the resignation and more in response to the war in the ukraine and what president zelenskyy is saying on the prime minister stepping down. and later, legal battles underway as states move to ban abortion. we'll talk to a louisiana lawmaker about an important hearing her state is having tomorrow that could determine if clinics could stay open. the 11th hour just getting underway on a night with some serious news to cover. rway on a night with som serious news to cover. serious news to cover.
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boris johnson just announced his intention to step down today after surviving a vote of no confidence just last month. but before we dig into that, we do have breaking news right now out of japan. reporters reports that former prime minister shinzo abe was shot at a campaign event. for more on this we bring in julia tett, she's the chair
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person of the financial times. she spent her career reporting all over the world, from london, to russia and brussels. you reported in japan. do you know anything more about this breaking news? >> well, i don't know exactly what has happened, what i can tell you is that of a, prime minister abe is a remarkable man. he was the youngest ever prime minister in japan. he's the longest serving prime minister in japan, and he really has dominated japan political scene for a very long time. giving birth to so-called ergonomics which is a reform of economic policies. is a fairly right wing conservative prime minister. he's been arguing for a long time the chapman japan needed to bolster's defense policy, so he has been controversial. we don't know exactly what happened tonight. i very much hope that it's not
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what it appears to be an attempted shooting, but if it was, japan has some of the toughest gun laws in the world, but unfortunately what it does have is a long, dark history of political violence and the last part of the century and early part of the century, and let's hope we will not see a recurrence of this unpleasantness. >> how rare is it to see this sort of gun violence in modern times in japan? unfortunately it's a thing we hear a lot about here. >> very, very rare indeed. it's worth saying that back in the dark days of japanese history, in the first half of the 20th century which i wrote about in a book years ago there were a number of assassinations of political figures. so it is part of the japanese history, but that hasn't been the case in many decades. and japan for the most part is a place where gun violence is very rare. when there have been outbreaks of violence it often has been
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stabbings and things like that. so it's fundamentally a different type of culture in relation to guns, not just to america, but most of the g7 countries as well. >> we are going to keep monitoring the situation and as we get any updates we will bring them to you. again, reports out of japan, nbc has not yet confirmed, former pm shinzo abe has been shot. he was at a campaign event. he was running for office again. we don't have any sort of status on his health right now. we are going to continue to monitor this and we will keep you updated as we get more information. gillian, let us turn again to what you were originally here for and this news broke, and boris johnson. what does his departure mean for the uk? >> well, it's both good and bad news. it's good news because we at the financial times have been amongst many commentators saying for a long time that there needed to be a shake out of the leadership in britain. boris johnson has been losing confidence for a long time. there have been a series of
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scandals, he's been seen as lying and deceitful and generally not having the type of character and credibility you'd expect in a leader. the good news is that he is now going finally and i heard you discussing earlier in the program the contrast between boris johnson and donald trump in the sense that there is a mechanism in britain to remove a leader when a party starts to lose confidence in him because of scandals. the bad news is that it is taken very long time and if there ever was a good moment to lose a leader like this it's not now. because britain is currently plagued with the highest inflation in g7 countries, the lowest birth rate, is struggling with brexit, is struggling with geopolitical fallout of the war in ukraine, et cetera et cetera, and so it desperately needs strong leadership and stability. so let's hope that whoever comes forward will provide that. but unfortunately the method in
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choosing the next leader is likely to be quite convoluted so there probably will be a period of limbo. >> do you know who else need strong leadership? nato. the uk is no longer part of the eu but they are part of nato and that nato alliance has proved to be massively important. and fortunately very strong over the last few months since the war in ukraine broke out. what do you think this could potentially mean for the war and nato's support of ukraine? >> it's very striking that some of the strongest messages o regret about boris johnson's departure have come from zelenskyy and other members of his government. the uk's been some of the staunchest defenders of ukraine with the exception of poland in
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the last few months. it's been very strong and standing up and against vladimir putin in moscow, and also supplying arms with the arms that it could supply. it doesn't have the resources of america but britain has been absolutely at the forefront of trying to help ukraine and helping the america helping ukraine as well. that's important it's felt pretty much across the board and british leadership. and if somebody is to replace boris johnson, she is potentially more outspoken with regards to ukraine the boris johnson was. but it's not just the case of britain can do without right now. frankly, nato and the rest of the european union to do with it right now. there are really serious geopolitical issues in economic issues right across the region. having this limbo in the uk is not helpful in any way whatsoever.
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>> well johnson didn't say when whatsoever >> >> well i've known boris johnson for a court of a century since we were journalist together in brussels. and the one thing i've learned is to never underestimate him. and to never know what's on earth he is going to do next. and so the reality is, we simply don't know. i would imagine that he probably wants to hang in there for a while, particularly because it's going to be quite a retracted process of trying to find the next leader. but, there is probably also people who are saying right now to him, very strongly, you know, let's play a straight bat to use a wonderful cricketing term from england. and just get on with it. lead the pitch. you have been bowled out, again to be using cricketing terms. dominic raab would be the
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person who would step up if boris johnson was to go. he is a very steady pair of hands who has a high degree of support right across the party. he has indicated he doesn't want to replace boris johnson. so in many ways, he would be a good caretaker. but it's worth pointing out that britain used to be famous for having a rather boring stable political culture. it's now starting to look a little bit like italy right now, because it's had a series of prime ministers, and if it was an interim prime minister, you'd be facing a situation with the fourth or fifth leader, as 2016, which once again, is not what people want to see right now when they want a time of stability. >> gillian, thank you so much for joining us for helping covering the breaking news, and for your expertise on boris johnson, who many moons ago, you were a fellow journalist with in brussels. >> you never know what journalist will end up doing. thank you. >> you never know. and again, we are still following the breaking news tonight, japanese broadcaster
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nhk reporting former prime minister schinzo abe was shot while making a speech. a campaign speech ahead of sunday's parliamentary election. he was campaigning for a candidate not for himself. nbc has yet to confirm that report. when we come back, a patchwork of abortion to galas trigger laws forced clinics to close in two weeks in a post world war. in louisiana, a key hearing tomorrow could determine if clinics there could stay open. we will ask you a louisiana lawmaker about all of it when the 11th hour continues. will ask you a louisian will ask you a louisian lawmaker about all of it whe and when you book and pay throug you're covered by our happiness check out angi.com today. angi... and done. the 11th hour continues.
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>> tomorrow marks exactly two weeks since the end of roe v. wade. since that supreme court reversal, restricted new regulations have been enacted across the country. down in mississippi, the very last clinic offering abortions, has now shut down for good. in neighboring louisiana, arguments will be heard and district court tomorrow over whether that states three clinics can stay open. with me now to discuss, is
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louisiana state representative, mandie landry. this is a lot, this is a huge hearing happening in your state tomorrow. what is at stake? >> everything for the poor women of the state. as some of you may now, if these two clinics closed, or when they close, the closest state for women and pregnant people in louisiana to receive an abortion will be illinois. 700 miles away and as we all know women seeking abortion care, they have a lot of financial issues, they have children at home, there is so much at stake for them and so many concerns, we are really concerned out here in louisiana. >> are you anticipating a special session to try to override if the court blocks the trigger ban? >> definitely. whether if this court decides tomorrow that a preliminary injunction should issue, which would keep the clinics open indefinitely, i definitely think that the speaker and the president or the governor may call us into a special session.
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even if this goes into an appellate court. say we can do that we cannot issue finalize. as you all know, abortion has been with the number one issue in louisiana for so long. we have more abortion laws than any state in the country. so i think the anti choice movement wants to get this nailed down as soon as possible. >> is this what the state of louisiana wants? tell me what the people there, you just said, it you've got so many laws down there about abortion. is this how the people of louisiana feel? >> not so much anymore. opinions have been changing according to polls in the last two years. what we have at stake here is the louisiana rights of life and family farm. they have so much money as so much political power. and they hold a lot of power over elected officials in the state. polls in recent years have shown that when you frame the question, you start asking about exceptions for rape and incest. or life of the mother. or for first trimester. that many more people are actually pro-choice than they
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realize. we only have about 20% of the state that thinks that abortions should be illegal on all circumstances. which while that is higher than other states, it's still pretty low. >> well right now there are no pro-choice women in your state senate. you just said it right there. the money that is behind these elected officials is huge. you are the only pro person running for state senate. is that a really risky political move for you? >> not for me from new orleans. i am fortunate to live in a blueberry in the state, as we call, it to represent a very progressive district in a very progressive city. i was elected on a strong pro-choice platform. in favor of gun safety measures, in favor of legalizing marijuana. and as you noted right, now our state senate, we only have five women in it, and all of them are antichoice. that's what made me, i'm gonna run and try to be in the senate to be the only pro choice voice.
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one of these trigger bands that i just passed a few weeks ago, when it passed through the senate, not one person even asked a question. they just passed it through without any opposition. we can do better than that for sure. >> well you are holding a q and a with people in your state about the rule decision, tomorrow, what are you expecting that is going to be like? >> on monday. yeah, i've been getting so many questions, i've been doing a lot of instagram stories. i get dms all day, emails, people are confused about the litigation, as they should be, it's confusing. so i'm going to see what happens tomorrow so i can explain it better on monday. as you might have seen this week our attorney general followed the reds with the supreme court trying to get them to intervene. all of this confuses people, and this is kind of the point of the antichoice movement. to make it confusing. to scare doctors. to scare people who are pregnant.
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to scare them from getting the care that they need. we have to make sure that people understand what is going on so that they know where to turn. >> what is happening to people who need care, as i mentioned before, the last abortion clinic in the state of mississippi has now closed. that is your next door neighbor. so what is it like down there in the whole region? >> so louisiana only has three clinics down from about 12 or so ten years ago. and what we have seen in the past several months since texas passed their law, is the wait times in louisiana clinics have been for a while, between 2 to 3 weeks because we've had a lot of women seeking care from texas. so what we've had has been a lot of people who don't see a doctor until they are much further along, and in the pregnancy. so what happens there is what was originally a medication abortion becomes a surgical abortion. so now what we have with the three clinics, i think what they are trying to do is they are trying to see everyone who
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has appointments right now, trying to get them through the doors, as quickly as possible, and anyone new who might need abortion care, who suddenly found themselves pregnant, we're encouraging them to make an appointment in another state. because we just don't know how long the clinics will be open. >> to go to a state 700 miles away, that is just not feasible for so many people. you said earlier, many women who seek abortion services live at or below the poverty line. your state and neighboring states that are looking to put more restrictions in place, are they offering any additional financial to support to these women who are now going to have to take on the massive financial burden of carrying a pregnancy to term, and then having a baby in this world, which is massively expensive. >> not yet that is for sure. louisiana still has $ 7.25 minimum, wage the same as the feds. as you noted, we have so many
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more people who live out or near the poverty line. i am hopeful that next year we will pass you know pass some bills that will help this population. i've worked a lot on maternal health measures and that have been successful in passing by partisan health measures. but we need so much more than just a handful of maternal bills as you noted. we need to get a lot of health care, but also a lot of economic support for this population in particular. and louisiana has a lot of worst morbidity rates in the country. i'm just worried about everything at this point. all these numbers are going to get worse in the next few years. >> all right, and thank you for joining us tonight, i appreciate, it representative mandie landry. >> thank you. >> we will be right back after a quick break. we got a lot of news to cover tonight. ot of news to cove tonight.
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how your office is doing? >> they are devastated. this is our community. >> highland park's police and fire chief say many of their staff were in the parade, the families lined the sidewalks. >> we have public firefighters, saying they knew their families were right there, where the shooter shooting was happening. so they didn't know whether or not they picked up a family member. >> their families were at the parade. the highland park tragedy was the 309 mass shooting in the united states this year, just this year according to gun violence archive. so let's discuss with retired
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seattle police chief carmen quest spent more than 25 years with the department. she's also on ms nbc law enforcement analyst. i'm so glad you're here tonight. look at when a law enforcement perspective. are the existing gun laws enough for police to do their jobs? >> certainly we need more. i don't think it's secret, just as you just mentioned we've had over 300 mass shootings this year alone. 22,730 people died this year alone from gunfire. 900 children under the age of 18 died from gunfire. and that 4th of july weekend, 220 people killed by gunfire. another 570 injured. so we know that we need more. it's not a one size fits all answer. we need more legislation, more laws to keep things down, more red flag laws and ways to
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enforce them. it's going to be a comprehensive answer to make sure that we can reduce gun violence and it's really at epidemic levels right now so we need all hands on deck in every way. and yes, stronger more stringent laws would be helpful. >> beyond the laws though, to do police have the tools to combat increased gun violence? the killer was on a rooftop in highland park with a high powered rifle and law enforcement was all around. people keep saying can't police do more? does even have the tools to do more? there is no question that we are outgunned in that regard. the fact that a kid under the age of 21 can go get a firearm or go get an assault weapon which is better armed than most police officers, quite frankly
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scares me. i was a police chief in a major city and i thought that someone could arm themselves, an 18 year old with a better weaponry than most officers have, it's a very scary thought. i just don't believe that young people should be able -- under the age of 21 -- should be able to go buy an assault weapon. i don't know why anyone. would i served in the military, we were trained in rifles, and we still had very stringent rules around when and how we carry them. i can't even imagine how my neighbor would need to go get an assault weapon and actually have more firepower than most police officers, or have a magazine that can hold dozens of rounds so they can call kill multiple people. if you can't hit an animal or a deer or whatever your hunting for in your first two or three rounds, get another hobby. this is not the thing for you. i feel like the officers are truly outgunned in a number of ways and makes us less safe. >> and makes us less safe.
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you are hearing that from a woman who spent her career in law enforcement. carmen, thank you so much for joining us tonight. i appreciate it. >> thank you stephanie. >> coming up. from portraying a dying nfl player to the dad of an elf. we are going to remember the great, great actor james caan. when we come back. reat actor james caan. when we come back.
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nice college boys? i want to get mixed up in the family business, now gonna run down the police of them slapping a facelift. when you think this is the army were issued in a while away. you get up close and you can hear. he taking this very personally. >> bada bing. the last thing before we go tonight. remembering a legend. his career spanned six decades, but james caan it's probably best known as sunny corleone in 1972's the godfather. he died yesterday at the age of 82. he was born in the bronx to jewish german immigrants and grew up on the streets of sunnyside queens. he played football for michigan state, and actually move back to new york and studied at a university. he never graduated but to discover his love of acting. and the 1960s, he began taking roles on tv and in the movies. there was his early work in the
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john wayne western el dorado in 1966. then in tv's tearjerker iron side where he acted alongside billy d williams who got a best emmy best acting nomination. when you became sunny and the godfather, khan put his own spin on the character, drawn from his days hanging around tough guys in queens. spitting in discuss at an fbi agent. throwing money after breaking an fbi agents camera. and improvising the iconic expression, but a bank. it all got him an oscar nomination for best supporting actor. years later in 1990, khan wrote with his friends director on brian, or at a film at that station of the stephen king book, missouri, with captain brits. and in 2003, he became known to younger audiences for his role as buddies father in a christmas favorite, elf. as for his life outside of acting, the new york times writes in his prime, mr. khan had a man's man reputation that
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he savored. in interviews, he's shrewd for a lot of words like birdseed. he earned a six degree bat black belt in karate. and he wrote steers on the rodeo circuit and managed a boxer. in his later years khan was active on twitter often posting voters from his films. and always handing off with the phrase, and of tweet. he posted this just last month. calling -- the best. and of tweet. married and the boys four times, con leaves behind five children, and four grandchildren. just last year, he told cbs he never wanted to stop acting. >> i can't take it easy. to me, i enjoy working. i love to work with good people. i have more fun when i'm working. and i have a lot of laughs. and i get respect to sometimes. sometimes. >> well we are sending much, much respect, and gratitude tonight, for this incredible
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actor, and his long successful career. james khan, gone at 82. and on that note, i wish you all a very good night. from all of our colleagues across the networks of nbc news. thanks for staying up late with us, i will see you at the end of tomorrow. us, i will tonight on all in. >> the guys a lying demagogue you can't trust, and so you want to be very, very careful about what you do with him. >> did donald trump use the irs to try to take down the fbi? tonight, as the investigations began, the trump appointee who response and the reporter that broke that story joins me live. then zoloft one of the january six committee on tomorrow's big interview will tomorrow's white house counsel. plus david hogg on what we are learning from the father's role in illegal gun sale before the highland park

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