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here everybody. good afternoon. i'm yasmin vossoughian. we have a lot to cover for you. right now where protesters are taking to the streets in washington d.c. and across this country demanding action on abortion rights and reacting to the president's new executive order. the president also hailing good economic news, including a drop in gas prices. plus a key witness testifying to the january six committee for more than eight hours -- what white house counsel pat cipollone may have told them. and that's not the only thing the former president should be worrying, out as a straight urban george's heating up. >> might we see a subpoena of
the former president himself? >> anything is possible. >> all of that, plus the financial world bombshell, 11 musk dropping this last night, trying to get out of buying twitter, and the latest in to free brittney griner from russia. i will talk to the father of trevor reed who was just released from russia few months ago. right now though, across this country, americans are taking to the streets once again to stand up for their beliefs on abortion. in washington, d.c., a rally organized by the women's march organization is underway. organizations are attempting to put -- to protect abortion nationwide. what they're calling the summer of rage, marchers gathered this morning at franklin square before heading to the white house for a sudden. that event was given a permit for 10,000 people. in chicago, the march for life rally, described as the midwest's largest pro-life went,
is that to happen this afternoon. -- rights relating to abortion are not guaranteed by the state constitution. the proposal will have to pass another round in the state legislature. if it does, abortion rights will be on the ballots for pennsylvania voters as early as next spring. meanwhile, president biden citing an executive order that will -- protect -- women will have to be able to travel to out of state abortions, -- this move, is coming after weeks of pressure from fellow democrats to take action, following the supreme courts overturned of roe. biden describing the ruling as quote, terrible, extreme, and totally wrong headed. nbc's laura bell it is traveling with the president. >> yasmin, president biden has
been facing intense pressure to take action since roe v wade was overturned just two weeks ago. yesterday, critics are saying does very little in the executive order he signed. a -- along with contraception and insurance coverage under the aca. that's four protections for birth control and contraception, like iuds. he also pointed out the need for the ftc to take action and make sure the patient privacy is protected. even with this executive order being signed yesterday, today throughout the country, we are seeing protests for the right to an abortion pop-up throughout the country as well as a citizen in front of the white house happening earlier today. they are looking for. more a lot of progressive leaders asking the white house to provide access to abortions on federal lands. the white house shine away from committing to doing that.
they have also asked if the president will be open to stack thing, stacking the supreme court with more liberal judges. they also said they will not do that. this is something biden has passionately cannot against. he has pushed people for the need to get out and vote in november. he almost said yesterday this will be a challenge to the court because he is saying women would come out in droves to vote to make sure that congress has the votes coming of ember or early next year in order to codify roe versus wade. there's only so much executive action that the president can do. at all of this was happening, biden putting pressure on this point, he also was celebrating a jobs report yesterday that came in. if you are the key points from this. 370,000 new jobs were added last month, that's a record high jobs numbers right now, the private sector a 5% wage increase, and unplayed in
sticking around at about 3.6%. this is something the white house is celebrating. saying the jobs lost during the pandemic aren't all all back. they also pointed out to gas prices are falling over the last month or so. but gas prices are still very high for a lot of americans. americans are still facing the brunt of inflation. this could point to the federal reserve raising interest rates once again as experts warn of a potential recession next year. the gas prices the white house is saying is the most immediate solution. -- >> i want to get to the january 6th investigation. a source telling nbc news that former white house trump counsel pat cipollone -- highly anticipated closed-door interview with the committee, which lasted eight hours or so. i want to bring in gary at capitol hill. folks are on edge wondering
what this testimony involves from cipollone. could he infect connect the dots for a lot of folks on the january six committee? we got some indication from committee members saying he did not discount any of the testimony from cassidy hutchison. gary, what are we learning about woody share? >> he said later in that interview is not the same as confirming. that's a really big get from the january 6th committee. that was videotaped in his deposition under oath, in person. this is something that other witnesses have placed in the room, at the white house, on january six, and the days leading up to january six. in conversations specifically, as it relates to donald trump's interest and heading appear to the capitol on that day. so how did this deposition go? we are learning a lot from the sources here at nbc. we are that it was eight hours inland. that's one of the longest
depositions that this committee has hell. we told he was cooperative throughout. we're also told he did not use his fifth amendment privileges. however, he did use executive privilege, but i'm not sure how much he did. shall he did so at least once or twice their yachtsman. >> let's look ahead. i'm sure we're gonna be hearing some trickle of course when it comes to the cipollone testimony. in the days to come as we look ahead for the next testimony we'll hearing from that is tuesday. thursday and friday as well. specifically, honing in on covering extremist groups like the proud boys and the oath keepers and their connection to the trump world as a whole. what can you preview for us on this? >> we already know a number of oath keepers who are tried in the rested and charged with crimes related to what they did here at the capitol. we already know the committee has interviewed some of the higher profile members and some of these members actually
wanted to be interviewed by the committee to share their thoughts. this is gonna be what representative -- zoe adopt connecting exercise. >> i think that we will be connecting some dots on tuesday. that will be important. and without going further and stepping on the hearing itself, it will be a dot connecting exercise worth looking at. >> a dot connecting exercise worth looking at. that is a teaser for. you if we can also see part of pat cipollone's testimony instep a shouldn't used is hearing, because as we've seen in the past, they have really woven in some of the recorded depositions into the hearings to make it more like a visual presentation and less like a congressional hearing. >> i just want to correct for the record, it tuesday thursday and friday, as i look back on my notes tell. those hearings are gonna be
tuesday and thursday to be specific on that. all right, later on this hour, criminal defense attorney and ms nbc legal analyst danny zavala's will be joining me -- but we've got to talk about fallout today from a financial bombshell. twitter now threatening to sue elon musk over his move to get out of the deal. the tech tighten filing papers to back out of the well chronicled 44 billion dollar agreement. musk's lawyer saying twitter fail to comply with some of the contractual obligations of, including allowing must to access information on fake and spam accounts on the social media platform. twitter says it plans to go to court to force the world's richest person to complete this merger. joining me is tim higgins, author of power play -- it is oftentimes advise not to
go to court with someone with a heck of a lot of money like a on mosques. -- twitter also has a heck of a lot of power behind it. this was shock i, have to say, as i saw come through on my phone yesterday evening. but not unsurprising. in the same breath. were you surprised that elon musk is now trying to pull out of the steel? >> elon has a history of hard-nosed to go sheeting. a lot of people who watch these kinds of deals over the years are accustomed to the idea that a party might try to get a better price or try to get rid of or lower the price that it's gonna be charged for him to walk away. as part of this deal, elon musk has to pay a billion dollars if he walks away. he might be trying to get that down. or he may not want to pay the 44 billion dollars that he had offered to pay. if you look at the market value
of twitter, it's around 28 billion dollars in the last few months. >> but it was slower than 44 billion even when they agreed on the sale price initially. that's what was part of the criticism that along with some of the other things as to why he was agreeing to that. so you're saying there's possibility that there is something that is not all said and done and is a negotiating tactic? >> it very well could be. the idea that, if the crux of the disagreement that elon has been bringing up is a disagreement over how many twitter accounts or fake or spam or inactive, he says it is wildly higher than 5%. twitter has been saying for a very long time that it is less than 5%. that is the key disagreement because 90% of the company's revenue comes from advertising sales. the number of users of twitter is key to those rates.
if business is not a solid's twitter and said, that could be an issue for elon musk. the issue is the long wait is due diligence. he made a binding agreement to buy this company. his moves in the last few weeks have been seen by lot of people is a negotiating tactic. in part because the market is changing dramatically. when he made that offer, it was pretty aggressive at the time, but since then, as we head towards a possible recession, there are concerns about the advertising market. concerns about twitter's growth. concerns of a twitters revenue. he might just not want to pay 44 billion. >> why would a forced merger look like? is that something that could even happen? they take must to court enforcement by twitter? >> it could be messy. one of the things, yes twitter has this contract, yes it's binding, but enforcing it could be a lengthy battle in court. in some ways, elon has a lot of
leverage here because he's the world's richest man. he's got time. twitter doesn't necessarily want to be tied up for long periods. this is gonna be a major issue for the ceo. the company needs to be thinking about how it's going to recast itself if we go into a recession. how can we grow the company? something it was trying to do prior to a lance interjection in the company. so now it's a huge headache for twitter, where the law can go back on his life and fight this overtime. >> and i have to say, i can't help but wonder what this does to the twitter brandt, if in fact must pulls out. >> one thing analyst are expecting on mondays for the stock to drop even more. and it raises the question, if elon is not going to buy, it is there potentially gonna be another buyer out there? twitter has suggested in the past there wasn't, when they did the judicial regions, but
at a lower price, this could be a property that appeals to somebody out there. it's a company that has really been on sale for a long time, at least that's with the former ceo jack dorsey has said, probably because of the ownership structure, and partly because it has not been as successful as the likes of facebook or tiktok. there is a lot of people to look at it and say there's a lot of potential here. it is really not meeting its potential. we really think of it is having more reach, in part because journalists like you and i are out on, their politicians. it bunches above its weight in the pop culture. but as of business is still pretty small. >> tim hagan, thank you so much, good to talk to. still ahead everybody, how a small overseas company is becoming one of the most important pieces in the fight for abortion accessibility as we take a live look at a pro abortion rights rally in washington, d.c..
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extending to all federal buildings and military posts, and will be in effect through sunset tomorrow. a short time ago, obvious body was brought to tokyo. just one day after the country's longest serving prime minister was assassinated while campaigning for a candidate in this weekend's parliamentary elections. this is coming as japanese officials investigate how the gunman was able to get so close to one of japan's most influential leaders in modern history. coming up next hour, i'm gonna talk with former u.s. ambassador to japan, john roofs, and sue me terry the former director for korea and japan and oceanic affairs national security council about abe's legacy and what if any changes could have on japan. and the rest of the world, as well. all right, wnba star john britney jack griner such to appear in court this coming week after she pled guilty to drug charges that could lay her in prison for ten years or so. that guilty plea united states. in a person call this week, the
president assuring britney griner's wife cherelle that the u.s. is pursuing quote, every avenue, to bring the olympic gold medalist home. joey reduce on trevor was freed from russian captivity through a prisoner swap just over two months ago said this, our government does silva negotiates with dictators with communist governments for the purpose of economic reasons, trade reasons, and yet when it comes to bringing innocent americans home, they are very a reluctant. joy reid is joining me now. joey, thank you for joining me on this. we appreciate it. let me just ask, and others on trevor interviewed abc news a few days ago. how is he doing? >> he is doing, well thank you for having me. and yes he has gained most was way back. he is going to the gym, eating healthy, enjoying his freedom. >> i can't help but think, because there is obviously an overlap right, brittani was taken into custody in moscow, in russia back in february. trevor at that point was still
being held captive in russia. released in april. that this conversation brings up a little bit of ptsd, not only for trevor i'm sure who was just released a couple of months ago, but for your family as well. knowing what it is like to know the future may hold for you. >> yes, absolutely. and we are dedicated to assisting all of the other american families whose loved ones are held hostage around the world. in a in particular paul wayland who was in prisons i believe eight months before trevor, and he has received very little media tension. he is accused of being a spy, he's not by. and he has been brutalized during his time there, spent a year and a half in somewhat to confinement. in a fsb prison, and he is gone to war camp. they wake up our lead to get some sleep deprivation as a form of torture. and so anyway, we are speaking out for all the other families. we can just walk away from. this >> so talk to me about how you're feeling about paul
whelan and brittney griner as well, that we are talking about. do you believe it is important to secure the release of paul whelan first before britney griner rift since he has been held captive for longer? >> i believe they should both come home, together. and that can be done. and let me say this, we are very thankful for the president making the decision to bring trevor home. but these negotiations, are not that complicated. we know the russians want, we know the chinese want, we know it a lot of these countries want. it is just that we are unwilling to make those agreements because of our internal politics. and we want to encourage the president to make a deal and trade russian prisoners of that's what it takes even if it is victor boot. and bring home our americans and if it had to be one person in the other we do believe it should be paul whelan just because of what he's done. but we prefer that their book among together and we know that can easily be done. >> i want to talk more about the possibility of a deal with
that looks like and some of the reservations in the white house. but before we do, can you just reach out for us things that you are son house told you about what it is that paul and brittany bass, being held captive in russia. >> well, again there are two different situations. paul accused of being a spy, so he was deprived of the normal judicial system, similar in our country. and he has been put in the fsb presents, and just treated completely differently. brittani's case, she i believe is getting a little bit better treatment because of all the media tension in the united states. they know that she is the bargaining chip. and so they obviously don't want to miss treat her or hurt her and anyway. so that is beneficial to both of them, but the food is horrible, all the prisons and pretension centers are old prisons. they have routes, the food is horrible. there is no heating or cooling in most of them. luckily i think brittani has some other prisoners who speak
english, and she is being allowed to communicate in english. by i think phone and mail. her letters, trevor was never allowed to do that until the end of his time and paul whelan was denied that for a few years. so we hope, we hope that they can endure their conditions until the president can get them home and he should get them home immediately. and this can be done tomorrow. >> joey take us inside the meeting that you had at the president before trevor was released. i know that you saw out the president, before his release. asking him, begging him to do a prisoner swap for your salon. it seems as f, according to reuters and their reports that this in fact is discouraged, to take up these meetings with the president. but nevertheless, you feel as if it was a scary meeting that helped your son come home. >> yeah, there is no doubt. we met with the president, he gave us no guarantees, but he
said that they were working on things and they would get back to us in a short period of time. and they did, and right after that trevor came home. all presidents try to avoid these meetings. we were lucky to get one austin tice's family got one. he has been missing for ten years in syria. and then he gave a phone call to miss griner, mrs. griner, and then because a lot of negativity in the media he called paul whelan sister liz about. but, there are dozens of other families waiting for that call. and i have also said in the media, we don't need phone calls, we need them to bring our loved ones home. we just bring our level until needed to make phone calls. we will talk to you when you invite us to the white house, we just need you to bring your families home. but there are people out there who are just dying right now to have a meeting or a phone call with the president. and the president meets with
everyone, he meets with boy bands. and this isn't just our presidents, all presidents. they met with boy bands, they meet with no the first lady just met with the representative for a venezuelan citizens, and yet we've got seven or eight americans held hostage there and they won't be with their families. so it is very frustrating. >> let me just ask you one more question, before i let you go. and that is this, joey. what do you make of the precarious position that the u.s. government is in? and this is not either to encourage or discourage either side of the argument, saying essentially the more we negotiate with countries like this, with these prisoner swaps, it will only encourage countries like russia for instance, and china, and iran, to continue to do this sort of thing, knowing that they can get the people back that they want. >> that is a shallow excuse. there is no validity to it whatsoever. you would think so, you know that would make common sense, but it is not true. the fact of the matter is,
because we are america, we are involved in things around the world. we control the world sees, the dollar is the value for most things in the world including oil. so there's a lot of animosity towards americans, even with our allies. and we are always going to be miss tree hit, there was gonna take americans hostage, even if they're not trying to get a deal. they just take us hostage and give alongside this because we're americans. and if we are truly the country will say we are, we will go and get our citizens back. they shouldn't have to be elected officials on, or a celebrity, or a millionaire. we should be getting them back, and if they need to trade and some criminals to get them back, come on you know, it's like our doj were supposed to be innocent and protect the innocent. and yeah, they are protecting the guilty, making sure they stay locked up in our great press hands, while innocent americans who are dying in foreign dungeons. it makes no sense why we are not trading bring them home. >> well, joy reid, i'm glad that your family is back together in the traverse. back on u.s. soil, safe and sound with his family.
and we take thank you for taking the time today. >> thank you, very much. >> all right, coming up everybody. college on trump to testify. >> i think it is important that they hear from people that may have had something to do with an election interference. >> rudy giuliani, and senator lindsey graham, already subpoenaed in the georgia da's investigation election tampering. find out at the former president himself could be added to that list. and exclusive interview at the fulton county da. plus, did trump use the irs to target his enemies? stay with us. to to target hissuggests the scientis. so they shoot it. hmm... back to the miro board. dave says “feed it?” and dave feeds it. and so our humble team saves the day by working together. on miro.
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rudy giuliani. -- >> could we expect to possibly additional subpoenas from people in the former president trump's inner circle or trump associates? >> yes. >> are we talking about family members? former white house officials? >> we'll just have to see where the investigation leads us, but i think that people thought that we came into this as some kind of gang. this is not a gang. at all. what i'm doing is very serious. it is very important work. and we are going to do our due diligence. >> might we see and the subpoena of the former presidents themself? >> anything is possible. >> i want to bring in my friend ms nbc legal analyst dave -- so good to be here. i found this fascinating, -- the whole time we are watching the january six testimony, we've been talking about what is the doj going to do when it
comes to possible criminal charges against the former president. yet it seems as if georgia is honing on to this help vote quicker than the quicker than -- the former president could feasibly be subpoena. what would that? mean >> he could even be charged. i and many others have long said trump's greatest threat is not necessarily a federal prosecutor but a state prosecutor. >> you have that. that >> thank. you i think people of the doj, their institutionalist. they're going to be very cautious and concerned about constitutional protections and separation of powers, whereas this is a county prosecutor, elected, he is not subject to the structures of the federal government or the doj. she can take a swing if he feels confident enough she can take down the former president of the united states. for that reason, a local prosecutor would be more likely
to take a shot at the biggest game the former president as opposed to a federal prosecutor, who really answers to a hive of folks who are going to be very concerned about tradition. >> what about this georgia state law, criminal -- election fraud. the possibility the former president could be charged with that if the evidence leads them to believe that's what happened? >> when you look at the statute, it is very easy to take behavior and fitted to the elements of the crime. but even the fulton county da knows that that is not the end of the calculus. she has to consider put affirmative defenses. there are many. there are first amendment defenses. much of the evidence against him as a phone call. that speech, and almost as no speeches cut criminal conduct, even when there is -- >> much of what we've been reading about the georgia county ace for his testimony as well, but they have been hearing from washington, specifically former attorney
general bill barr, looking the former president in the eye and saying this election was not stolen. i know that to be a fact. that is not the equivalent of the president going on the record and saying i know it was stolen. but i'm still gonna try and do something about it. overturn the results. they don't have that smoking gun. they have the president being told over and over again by people we think he trusted it wasn't, but we don't have him specifically saying, i know what i'm doing is wrong but i'm gonna do it anyway. >> i had to say as a criminal defense attorney, i only wish prosecutors required this level of knowledge before charging regular folks. it seems like we're getting into, we'll, if seven or eight people told trump, what if he still really believes when he was doing was right? >> but that's much of how the administrator operated, and much of how the former president operated for four plus years. >> --
in this case, circumstantial evidence might still show that trump believed he won the election or didn't believe. and a lot of folks find election law pretty complicated. if you took the members of an average jury, some of them i think, politics are dirty tricks, elections are dirty affairs, who knows what's legal and what's not? having prosecutors have to consider that. and consider they might get a trump town on any jury. they have to think of all the. angles >> all the angles. who is gonna stick with me and hang out for the next 23 minutes as we talk to him again at the top of the hour. thanks danny. there's some refreshments for you, maybe some warm water you can have while you wait. >> decaf coffee. >> u.s. treasury department now and just getting weather why arrest -- former deputy director andrew mccabe. the news coming after it was really earlier this week that the two frequent targets of trump attacks where the subjects of a random an invasive audit. -- the questions are now raised
whether trump was using the agency during his time in office to get his longtime enemies. >> the irs launched a watchdog investigation after two of former president trump's favorite punching bags found themselves under incredibly rare iris audit. according to the new york times, both former fbi director james comey and his deputy andrew mccabe received letters from the tax agency informing them quote that they were selected at random. -- the odds of being chosen for such an intense of audit? roughly one in 20,000. -- both men drew the ire of the former president frequently. >> comey's a liar and a leaker. you know, i did you a great favor when i fired the sky. mccabe and comey who lied to
congress and it's so many other bad things. these are valid, corrupt people. these are the people. and very bad for our country. >> trump even accusing both men of treason. a crime punishable by death in exchange with our peter alexander. >> who are you specifically accusing of treason? >> i think a number of people. they have unsuccessfully tried to take down the wrong person. you look at comey, if you look at mccabe,. >> comey, in 2018, didn't hold back his feelings about trump either. >> i don't think he's medically unfit to be president. i think is morally unfit to be president. >> the years of dramatic discourse leading trump to believe that trump may have something to do with the audit. telling the new york times, maybe it's a coincidence or maybe somebody misuse the irs to get out of political enemy. given the role trump wants to continue to play in our country, we should know the answer to
that question. -- >> it just defies logic to think that there was some other factor involved here. i think that's a reasonable question. >> when asked about the, audit former president trump telling the times through a representative quote i have no knowledge of this. and i.r.a. spokesperson telling nbc news, it is ludicrous and untruth suggest that senior irs officials from a targeted specific individuals for audit. the agency referring the matter to the treasury inspector general for review. whether it's a coincidence or, not the audits have already been completed. the first one regarding comey and his wife, found that they overpay. they told the tides they received a 350-dollar refund. while mccabe and his wife while there were audits found that they underpaid, they paid a small slump back into the iris. of this for the current in the stretch, and korean jean-pierre was asked about president biden's confidence in the irs
commission. -- the press secretary simply said that his term is up in november and would not comment beyond that. >> nbc's moira for us. up next everybody, $400 million and aid for ukraine from the u.s. as russia makes steady progress in the donetsk region. we are live in the capital city of kyiv coming. up >> hey everyone, to head ahead on american voices. the open door for democrats, from the abortion access to gun safety. what's the party can do to fight back. plus the january six committee gets the most important witness yet. that and much more ahead on american voices, 6 pm eastern right here on msnbc. voices, of magic in all that . ♪ so different and so new ♪ ♪ was like any other... ♪ right here on msnbc.
♪ i want to rock and roll all night ♪ ♪ and party every day. ♪ ♪ i want to rock and roll all night ♪ applebee's late night. because half off is just more fun. now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood. new today, the biden administration is sending another round of aid to ukraine this marks the third passage which marks just over seven
billion dollars. it's all coming as russian forces have all concentrated their offensive on the eastern dundas region in recent weeks. the region has seen heavy shelling, several civilian deaths over the last couple of days as well according to ukrainian officials. troops also believed to be preparing for an even larger assault. and despite, this a senior u.s. military official describing the russians at making quote, slow and uneven advances. from that ukrainian forces are holding their own. joining me now is ali, good to see. you let's talk first about the latest on the ground there is specifically really in the eastern part. where russian services have taken to key cities. >> that's right, yasmin. at the current russian strategic aim is focused on taking the whole donbas region. that's why they wanted to do since the beginning the war. the techno hunts area, that's not them a step closer. now you see them intestine buying their attacks in jonathan, particularly in the cities of serve and yaks, mahmoud, and combat our.
those are the main cities, and they are using the same old playbook. they are shutting these areas very heavily, they are destroying civilian infrastructure, to sort of get battlefield momentum. and it is a really slow effort of the ukrainian troops. they are fighting day and night against a much larger, much larger russian army that has a lot more equipment. we had an opportunity to speak to this young soldier that i've been speaking to, he'd be fighting in the lufthansa area. now he's in the dynastic area, fighting the russians. and he paints a very difficult picture of what's is going on on the ground there. let's take a listen to what he had to say. >> the situation was very complicated. we were forced to -- . due to the very much force perspective to be in a circle. we hold all of our forces as
much as it was even possible. >> and yasmin, this young man really personified the ukrainian fighting spirit. he said he is gonna fight for every inch of ukraine territory even if he uses his life. but you can't reiterating, like we've heard from so many more officials and soldiers in this country, that if they don't have those western weapons in large supply, they are going to be fighting a losing battle. >> ali arouzi for us, thank you ali. coming up everybody, states banning abortion procedures are running into roadblocks when it comes to banning abortion pills. the head of a foreign company, at the center of that battle, and seeing a spike in business, coming up next. and seeing agreed... my patients like these patches because they work for up to 12 hours, even on moderate pain. salonpas. it's good medicine coming up next
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and it's yours free just for calling. so call now for free information. welcome back. so americans across this country are continuing to protest in reaction to the overturn roe. these rallies, they come a day after the president signed this executive order, which acting rights to abortion and contraception. while the protections of the order there are limited, they do in fact include a director for the department of health and human services. to take steps to ensure access to medication abortion, or the abortion pill. medication abortions, they now account for more than 50% of abortions in the u.s., and activists have been working tirelessly to make sure that women in this country can
continue to have access to that. one of those activists,'s physician doctor rebecca go-karts, who founded an online organization over seeds called aid access back in 2018. and has been shipping abortion pills to the united states to help women in need ever since. she joins me now, thank you so much for joining me on this. we appreciate it. let's talk first about the overturn of roe. how has that impacted the number of pills that you are now shipping here to the united states? are you able to manage the influx? >> so, together my american colleagues, we provide prescriptions. and these prescriptions are filled by pharmacies. and the pharmacies have the medications that there is a u.s.-based pharmacy, shipping to the states where the u.s. providers are based and i am providing my prescriptions to an indian pharmacy where they're showing to the other states. well we have seen is that before roe was overturned, we had around 600 emails per day,
and that has increased to 4000 emails per day. what we saw after the texas ban, so the final numbers they were research by the university of texas -- but what we found after texas passed the ban was that in the first weeks there was an increase of 11 under percent. and then it stabilized, so 3 to 4 times higher than before. and i think we will see that now as well. because women are really desperate. we find that people are really scared, what's happening. and there's a lot of desperate emails. >> are you worried, doctor gompert, that some of the states are going to try to restrict the ability for your organization, for instance, to continue to shove these abortion bills? >> so we have been working out for four years with a texas. and there have been any problems. we have a another organization
that i've been working with as we were here for 18 years around the world in countries where abortion is legally restricted. and so, in the u.s. the powers are divided, it is federally organized. the states cannot ban the mail. >> i know it's a multi step process. i was just there with a woman in new mexico who took and were to build. it was the first of the many pills that she had to take through that process. i believe she was around eight weeks or so along. how do you manage the care of these women from abroad that are taking these abortion pills, and how do you advise them if in fact they have consequences that were not necessarily planned for that may need hospital care? >> medication abortion is extremely safe. it is one of the safest medical procedures that exists. it safer than by aggro, or over
the counter painkillers people can buy. so, i think that is very important to stress that first. it is very similar to a miscarriage. women usually deal with a miscarriage themselves. and in very rare cases, so what we do as we take questionnaires, and we try to assess if there is any contra indication which is extremely rare. and then, in this process we inform them of what they will expect, had to take the medicines, and have to recognize a complication or a possible complication. now, there is again it is very rare. what is amazing in the u.s., there's a hotline that women can contact which is meant by doctors almost 24/7. it is called am and a hotline. if they have any medical questions, they can call and these doctors will assess their situation if they have indeed something that needs further follow-up care or that it is within a normal process. >> doctor gompert, before i let you go, if you could just again tell women how it is they could
access aid access if they need your services? >> so, women can go to the website. it is w w w dot aid access dot work, and there you can start a questionnaire. women have to fill in the questionnaire, and then they will get the email explaining to them what they should do in order to access the medicines and the prescription. >> doctor rebecca gompert, thank you so much. appreciate it. in the next hour everybody, the ridley shooting out of japan's former prime minister setting off republican saying it is evidence that reforms torque. senator ben cardin of maryland, joins me and what it will take 30 shootings here in the united states. plus, his relationship with the former prime minister, shinzo abe. we'll be right back. relationship witthh relationship witthh former primess all your clouds.. abe. it's easier to do more innovative things. [whistling]
hey everybody. i'm yasmin vossoughian. welcome. it's good to see you. if you're still with us, thanks for sticking around. our star witness, donald trump's white house counsel pat cipollone testifying to the january six committee. perhaps nobody knows more than what happened in the white house on or before january six. and the very fact that he testified for eight hours indicated of a lot to say. >> mr. cipollone appeared voluntarily and answered a variety of questions.
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