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wnba brittney griner pleaded guilty to drug charges in a russian courtroom on thursday. now, if convicted she faces up to ten years in prison. in a statement griner admitted guilt but tonight she intended on breaking any russian laws. in fact her lawyers hope that this admission will lead up to some leniency from the recent russian court. the basketball star said she was arrested in february when the russian authorities found
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vape cartridges of cannabis oil in her luggage. since then, family members, friends and coaches have all made impassioned pleas for griner's release. this includes griner's wife, cherelle who is pressing the u. s. government to do more to free her. earlier this week, president biden and vice president harris spoke with cherelle assuring her that they are working to get griner home. president biden also read cherelle a letter he wrote to the basketball star. this comes just days after griner wrote a letter to president biden imploring him not to forget her or any of the other detainees held in russian captivity. griner's expected to appear in court on july 14th for the third of our trial. so what legal options does he have looking forward? a russian lawyer said she may seek up an appeal or even clemency once the verdict is delivered. there are also reports that crime in or could be part of a russian's a prisoner swap. perhaps an exchange for victor bout a notorious russian arms dealer known as the merchant of death. moscow and the u.s. state department are remaining tightlipped about any such negotiations.
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coming up on this hour of a man, two recent police encounters demonstrate again that america is too vastly different systems of justice. plus, georgia's grand jury zeroes in ontrumps inner circle my conversation with director -- about his recent success and muslim representation in hollywood. i'm ayman let's get started. >> just hours ago, hundreds of gun violence survivors, local activists, community members, gathered together in highland park, illinois, two under the seven lives lost in that horrific july 4th shooting, and demand action on gun violence prevention. following the shooting, police initiated a car chase and pull
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over and arrest the 21-year-old who conducted one of the worst mass shootings in highland history. he was, quote, taken into custody without incident. and yet days earlier, just a few states over in akron, ohio, another police chase ended very differently. on january -- excuse me, on june 27th, jayland walker, a 25-year-old black man was killed by police for traffic violation, they tried to pull him over for alleged traffic and equipment violation for just after the midnight. and he refused to stop, a chase
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ensued. that's when officers reported, quote, fired from -- walker jumped out of the car and the pursuit continued on foot. and a newly released body cam video, you can see the moments leading up to walker's death. and we should warn you here, what you are about to see is disturbing. >> we're slowing down here, slowing down. don't move! don't move! show your hands! show your hands! hands up! [noise] >> in total, officers fired more than 90 rounds at walker with more than 60 bullet striking him, according to his family's attorney. and yet, despite an unloaded handgun, a magazine later found on the driver seat of walker's car, police confirmed there was no gun found on his body. so just to be clear, that's zero shots fired in highland park at an alleged mass
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murderer who is considered by police to be, quote, armed and dangerous. but 90 shots fired at an unarmed jayland walker in akron, ohio. it's hard to not see the disparity here. senator cory booker said it best, writing in part, quote, the peaceful arrests of the highland park and buffalo shooters proof police can act with restraint, de-escalate, and safely detain the most dangerous people without resorting to deadly force. jayland walker was not afforded the same treatment when he was shot 60 times. and he is right. walker's shooting has yet again exposed the bitter double standard baked into this country's criminal justice system. the truth, is in america, there exists two justice systems. in one system, a white man suspected of mass murder can be arrested peacefully without a single bullet being fired. and in the other, an unarmed black man can be gunned down by police for a simple suspected traffic violation. we have a lot to break down here.
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let's bring in my panel for the hour, charles blow, the columnist for the new york times and an msnbc political analyst, jessica post, the president of the democratic legislative campaign committee which helps democrats gain legislative seats, and dean obeidallah, host of the dean obeidallah show on sirius xm, and he's an msnbc daily columnist. charles, i would like to begin with you. talk to me about the disparity here, the police are clearly capable of arresting someone even a suspected mass murder, without incident. what is your reaction to these two situations playing out in america? >> i think the disparity is clear, but i also want the viewing audience to concentrate on another difference here. which is that, many other people who are black, who are killed by law enforcement, they considered them to be obscure, no one knows them. the difference with mass
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murderers is that they are instantly famous. everybody in the department, everyone in the country, is looking for this person. it changes the calculus among police officers. we have to remember, the d. c. snipers, both of whom were black, were arrested. they were not killed immediately when confronted. so it's not that it is strictly because they were black and that's why -- they are dead or not arrested without incident. it is that they are notorious at the moment they are encountered. so when you look at all of the black mass -- not mass murderers, serial killers, there are some, we are not as prevalent as other people are in mass murders or serial killers. many of them were, the most notorious of them were taken in and not killed on the streets. the difference is, they devalue the black life when they believe that they can get away
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with it, when they believe that it is just them on the street with you, when they believe it will be their word against yours, or your dead bodies word, or your dead body whatever can reveal against their word. and that is the issue that we need to confront. which is that, when police officers believe that you are obscure, you are nobody, you are devalued, you devalued because of where you live, you're devalued because of your race, you're devalued because of the incident that you are involved in, then they take liberties that they do not take with more notorious killers, whether they are mass killers or serial killers. and that is a huge difference. we have to teach police officers to value each person equally. >> dean, can a collins, who was an illinois based gun violence prevention activists called out
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what she characterized as a double standard. she said,, impart officers firing 60 rounds into jail and walker is also beyond violence. what is your take on that, the willingness of police to use that kind of firepower in those types of situations? >> we have two different systems, ayman, on so many levels. if you are black, you are three times more likely to be killed by the police than if you're white. clearly there's the sense is if your skin color is black, you are less valued. if you are black, you're more likely to have your car surged, if you're black, you are likely to have more charges filed against you for the same offense than if you're white. if you're black it's a how your bail post requirement than if you're white. black people get higher criminal sentences than white people. and for probation, black people are less likely to get probation granted than white people for the same offence. it goes from the first stop to actual murder. in between there, it is unfair, it is systemic racism.
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and it's just not being addressed. you have tim scott, who was working with cory booker, can tuck said that he gets pulled over and washington d. c., over and over again, as a black man. and then he says there is no such thing as systemic racism. the denial on the other side, by republicans, they are making it hard to address what needs to be a top to bottom approach to the criminal's justice, and make it equal protection, regardless of your skin color, that is the system we need to have. >> jessica, as i mentioned, officers shot off 90 rounds at walker, reportedly 60 of them hitting jalen walker's body, that sheer number of bullets, you know, for me, it's just bizarre. to say the very least. it's reignited questions around excessive use of force by police and it has prompted once again the discussion of police reform on the state level.
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is there any hope that both parties can find common ground and finally try to pay something meaningful here? because i just cannot wrap my head around in what's scenarios belize feel that 90 rounds in the direction of someone who is running away from them, not running towards them, but running away from them, is justifiable them well. >> it's very clear that this is the two systems of justice in the united states at work. black and brown people should be able to avoid death during a police encounter. and this is quite horrific. i don't know that we will see federal action on this, but i know that in the states where we have democratic majorities, we've seen significant action across the country on criminal justice reform, on additional body cameras, and police accountability. i don't have a lot of faith in the republicans to create a compromise, i know there was some progress to think after
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the shooting of george floyd, but i'm not sure how much of that we will see in the states. we are doing everything we can to fight, to put democrats in charge of state legislatures across the country, and when we do, that we get increasing representational diversity, so better legislation comes, out including a lot of police reform and accountability legislation. >> charles, let me switch gears for a moment, here and talk about the highland park shooting. nbc's reporting that the new gun laws passed by congress will not likely have stopped that particular mass shooting. so while the suspect had encounters with local law enforcement, officers that led to the confiscation of weapons like knives, he wasn't charged or convicted of a crime, he would most likely have passed an fbi background check. what more needs to be done here, you think? >> the gun lobby spent decades passing, or getting congress or
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state legislations, to pass laws that widened the aperture on the amount of weapons that could be purchased, how they can be carried, how they can be stored. it will take decades of continuous legislation to wind that back. it will not be done overnight, there is no one bill or set of bills that will be the silver bullet here. every aspect of gun ownership in this country must be examined and when appropriate measures can be taken, and should be taken, they must be taken, we have to continue to pass legislation. it cannot be looked at as the last piece of legislation that was passed in 30 years, which was very narrow, look at that and say, look at, that we've achieved it, now it will take decades of continuous legislation to wind this back because it took decades of continuous legislation to do it. >> jessica, it's also alarming that illinois adopted a red
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flag in 2019. even though he threatened to harm himself and others, should part of the process be focused on publicizing educating people on how safeguards are supposed to work? >> absolutely. laws are only as good as when they are enforced. and we know that state senator julie morrison who represents highland park in the illinois state senate is really interested in taking additional action to add additional laws that could've prevented this sale of this weapon to someone who should never be able to buy a weapon because of his history. so, i agree that this federal law would not have changed anything, and we are going to continue to see change in the state. so hopefully we will see even more action immediately in illinois. i think that if you think about a state like new york where
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there was the shooting in buffalo, we saw gun laws immediately going into effect. they're very different than when we've all day in texas where the texas state legislature continues to do nothing. and this is the difference between a democratic-led legislature versus a republican. one >> we have a lot more to discuss, still to come, with abortion rights literally on the ballot in red and blue states this year. how can democrats energize their base, but first, my friend richard louis is here with. headlines >> a good evening to you. some of the stories we are watching for, you the body of former japanese prime minister shinzo abe was transported back to his home in tokyo on saturday. this comes one day after he was assassinated during a campaign event in japan. police arresting a 41-year-old man who confessed to that attack. the funeral service for abe is expected to take place early next week week $40 million in military aid for ukraine friday. the package includes for more advanced weapon systems to slow
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biden to declare a national public health emergency on abortion rights. the organization an emergency declaration could unlock initial funding and the -- and a move like this could be pivotal in rallying voters ahead of the mid term season where a record number of abortion policies will be on the ballot in as many as eight states. let's bring back our saturday night panel to break all the stuff. charles let me start with you. do you think these protesters will drive the president to go harder on protecting abortion care? >> there's not a lot the president can do in his efforts to protect abortion. what he is doing -- his executive orders deal with interstate travel, interstate commerce, whether or not pills can get to people in states that may outlaw abortion, whether or not people can travel to places outside of states that right now outlaw
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abortion or are going to do so. also directing the department of justice to help people. patients, doctors if they are caught up in legal issues around the access to abortion. but anything that the president does, the next president can undo. so there's not a lot that he can do specifically on this issue. it has to be a legislative fix, at least in the short run until you get a different supreme court. we have no idea when that will be. so you have to either fix it on the federal level, and enshrine the rights of abortion in legislation, that does not look likely with the way our senate and congress are breaking down right now, or you have to fight it out on the state level, which many people are doing. i think one thing that is important to remember is that what republicans are trying to do is revert to a state's rights governed america where
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states have the right to constrain, restrict or deny basic human rights and basic civil rights and create a two-state america which is one in which rights are severely restricted and one which is not. that is different place because that puts us back into a jim crow america. >> jessica, tell me about how your organization is preparing for november with this record number of abortion policies on the ballot. joe biden the president obviously has been calling for two senators is what he says he needs to codify roe v. wade. you may get two senators but the truth is you have the ability to do it now if you can get your senators to actually say they are going to carve out an exception to the filibuster and get this done, and yet they can't do this now, so why would two more change that? >> first off president biden's
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executive order is important to charles's point. one thing we have seen in the state legislatures do is that the bad news is that republican state-run legislators can act just as fast as democratic run legislatures. and these democratic run legislatures have done in every state everything they can have to do to protect roe v. wade. if you are frustrated with democrats in congress right now, you should be happy with democrats in the state legislatures, because literally in every state where the democrats have state legislative power control state legislative chambers, we have done something to protect abortion rights across the country. my hope is that we can if we can get two additional u.s. senators, we will see this enshrined federally, but right now we are in the two state america the charles described. in states like missouri, there have been targeted regulations of abortion laws that have limited abortion abortion access.
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missouri only had one single clinic before roe fell, now missouri has zero clinics active because of their trigger law and ban. so unless this is changed immediately we have to go into this in the state. again, i hope is a democrat we went to more states seats in the unit in the senate. but so many legislators are acting because there is the fear that it won't only states rights, instead this is paving the way to ban abortion federally as well. >> dean, how do you campaign on this? how do you convince americans to vote blue, particularly when it comes to an issue of abortion when there is as republicans are pointing out, inflation and high gas prices? >> well, i'm glad you asked me. republicans are trying to turn america into a bible theme park. i think it's important the democrats speak frankly about what's going on. we've talked about this before,
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and i know some people roll their eyes, but i'd like democrats to say, the republicans are copying the playbook of the taliban literally? the taliban takes their religious beliefs and makes them a lot of the land. republicans are doing the same thing with abortion. they are banning it at conception. meaning at they one of conception in certain states, the woman's uterus becomes property of some some states. they should talk about what is coming, we are losing freedom. inflation is important but when you don't have freedom, or does it matter if you're paying more for gas? we're talk about women's losing fcontrol of their own destiny of their own equality. democrats should talk bluntly, taking a law in enforcing it on the rest is un-american. treat it like that. they are banning books, they're
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banning abortion, they're banning transgender rights, they're banning history, banning say gay, now they're gonna ban birth control, and marriage equality. there is a party of freedom, you're kidding me. they said they're coming for your freedoms, don't let them take it. that's a great ad, democrats should copy that. >> jessica, how do you reach voters in red and purple states who are less open to these ideas on abortion? are those going to be foregone states or is there going to be a play to be made in some of these red states that are passing these draconian restrictive laws on women's rights? >> i think there's a definitely a play to be made to communicate about what's happening across the country. most americans no matter if they're in red states or blue states are in favor of abortion rights. i know the republicans are pushing an economic narrative but there is no more essential economic choice than having a child, and being forced to bear a child by the state, which is essentially something that the republicans are advocating.
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i do think there is a way to break through, to talk about the restricting of freedom as dean articulated, and to talk about how this could impact most americans. you know even in polls of republicans that we have seen, they are not supportive of this policy. the republican party made a devils pact with the religious right and now this is out of step with even the beliefs beliefs of their own voters. so i believe we can make inroads -- you finally caught the bus, you know the dog caught the truck and now they have to deal with the consequences of this devils pack they made years ago with the religious right. >> charles, final question to you about the politics of the current senate composition. as i said, joe biden is asking for two to try to get the filibuster passed. is it hard to go out there and campaign for people to be pro-choice to get them elected
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in the senate to go out there and say, we need two senators who want to do away with the filibuster and cut this nonsense out when it comes to police reform, black lives matter, voting rights and women's rights? >> i think the president has to do that. people want to see a bit more of a fight. even understanding that it is unlikely that manchin and sinema will move, they have already said they're not open to moving the filibuster even for abortion rights, but you have to put in a bit of a fight. you have to go to west virginia and put on some pressure on his home turf, which did not happen during the voting rights debate. we didn't see the president and west virginia. put some pressure on them on their home court and at the same time say, we need to add democratic senators so that we
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can get 52 democratic senators to break the filibuster. time is running out by the way. we don't know what's gonna happen with the house. it is likely possible that it could fall into republican hands. then now it wouldn't happen anyway. the time is running out, you have to press hard now, even if it's a losing, battle you have to try. >> all right, panel please stick with, us we have a lot more to break down. next, the georgia district attorney says it is just the beginning after the special grand jury there issued several subpoenas to trump's inner circle. subpoenas to trump's inner circle when you have technology that's easier to control... that can scale across all your clouds... so you can do more incredible things. [whistling]
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county district attorney, fani willis earlier. willis is in the midst of a grand jury investigation whether or not trump interfered with georgia's 2020 federal election. and this, week she subpoenaed key trump allies including lindsey graham, and rudy giuliani, and conservative lawyers, john eastman, jane ellis, and cloudy mitchell. back with me now is my saturday night panel, charles, i will start with you. how big of a deal is it that the following county da is now ruling out subpoena former president donald trump? >> i think it's a big deal and it should be expected. not that she is holding this position on a surly former president will be subpoenaed, though i believe it is possible. one thing that we have to remember about what is happening here in georgia, is that this is really serious with the president, the former president, and for all the people around him who are helping him in this scheme to get votes here in georgia that were not cast by the -- votes that were legally cast for joe biden. this is a criminal matter.
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it is a state, criminal matter. the subpoenas hold real weight. it's not like a congressional subpoena where they don't have an enforcement arm, to go out and enforce those subpoenas. this is a federal -- this is a state criminal matter with a subpoena from a grand jury. you will be fined or arrested. the consequences for not showing up are serious. and so i believe that these people will show up, they will have some sort of deal where they have to. but it has to be worked out, it cannot just be ignored like we see with congress. so this is really serious for them. i think that once you see some testimony, a lot of these aren't lawyers, so they will claim some attorney-client privilege and you will have to work that out, and they might have to fight that out. but if you get testimony, you get closer, and closer, closer to the president.
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and what you want to do in a case like, this is you want to talk to everybody underneath the former president before you talk to him so that when you do talk to him, you already have the evidence that you think you need and you're basically asking the person to corroborate or test them to see if they will lie under oath. and that becomes another problem. >> jessica, it seems that fani willis's view on subpoenaing trump has evolved. what does that mean in all of this? >> i think it's a good thing. look, i really hope that we see president trump testifying and i hope that other subpoenas go through because, one thing we know is, and that we know for sure, is that he did pressure election officials, we found that out with the january six committee. when we find even more concerning is that the state legislators are given the right by the constitution to allocate electoral votes. and there are hundreds of state legislators who signed on to
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this stop the steal, who advanced the big lie, who went out, including many legislators in the georgia state legislature. so this is really concerning as well as the takeover of county election bureaus by republican run state legislatures. i think there will be a long tale of undermined elections, and this was the tip of the spear of what we might see in 2024. so we are going to pay attention. >> dean, do you think fani willis will be able to actually subpoena trump here? we've already seen the lindsay graham fight his subpoena from her, it's not clear if he will be successful. so will lindsey graham be successful and will trump's be successful? >> they should not mess with fani willis. fani willis is not merrick garland from the globe boy, federal society ivy league school network. fani willis graduated from
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howard university, went to work as a prosecutor for 17 years, and we -- she knows every in and out of the justice system. there she will hold him accountable. the idea of some ponying donald trump is a little weird as a lawyer to say that you would subpoena the target of a investigation. i think she should, say we arekeeping everything out there.- she's freaking out trump already. he's yelling out a few minutes -- there was a phone call with georgia. this is the guy with who's on the phone with the secretary of state, saying i want my hundreds of thousands of votes, just -- and bingo! there's crimes here. donald trump has committed crimes, federally, there's no doubt in my mind, but statewide, i think it's a cleaner case. i hope fani willis forgets subpoenaing donald trump. get this grand jury done, get a report, and then charge donald trump and we could be a
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defendant in the trial. that's what i would like to see. >> to that point, charles, to dean's point, how should concern shouldn't know trumps be concerned and his inner circle? been out that all of them have been subpoenaed? >> we don't know what kind of testimony we're gonna get from them, but i think he should be concerned about this case in general. i do believe this is a very, very serious matter. even in new york after of and grab drop the criminal part, what was left is a civil case which may or may not go forward, but that would just be an issue of paying money. this criminal thing is really serious. and there -- there is no incentive for the prosecutor in georgia to back off. there is every incentive to follow the evidence and find the truth and the truth does not look good from what we know already. we don't even know what we don't know. we don't know what these witnesses may give up in testimony. we don't know why documents they may have that the prosecutor here in georgia may come across. it is a very serious matter,
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this does include or consider the idea of jail time for people who i don't know who those people will be, if there will be any people. but that is what the states are here in georgia, and it's a very, very serious matter. i think all of america should focus on this case in georgia, in some ways even more at this point then which -- is incredibly row for the tory, but we don't know what the justice department is going to. do we know what the da in georgia is doing. already. >> jessica, norm eisen, who served as special counsel for the house judiciary committee during trump's first impeachment posted in the washington post this week that willis hut seems to have completed the instate portion of her special grand jury investigation and maybe now moving to take evidence from those outside of georgia who may have participated in the alleged conspiracy targeting georgia voters and electors. is that your rating of it as
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well? do you agree with that assessment? >> yeah, look, i think jennifer has a right, here that's my assessment. i am not an attorney, so i will defer to other attorneys on the pannel, but i think we will certainly see some additional out of state folks come in and have to talk and be held accountable down in fulton county. >> all right, jessica post, dean, charles blow, thank you so much for all your insights and analysis tonight. i greatly appreciated. >> thank. you >> hollywood's diversity problem and one man who is changing the rules. my conversation with the director, next. now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood. while wayfair is installing your new refrigerator
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with diversity, but adil el arbi is helping uproot the status quo. the belgian moroccan muslim filmmakerconducted the latest installment of bad boys franchised, bad boys for, life, which was the highest grossing domestic film in 2020. his story -- about a muslim boy's future premiered at the cannes film festival, and he's personally in post-production on bat girl such a be released later this year. if that's not enough, he is now working as an executive producer and director for ms. marvel on disney+. it's a critically acclaimed show about a regular muslim teenager with superpowers. i spoke with adil el arbi earlier about his blockbuster of the year. >> adil el arbi, thank you so much for joining us, it's a pleasure to have you on the show. i wanted to ask you what inspired you to take on this project that really leans into muslim identity, unlike a lot of shows out there it's not secondary, but it's actually central to the plot and the
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defining aspect of the main character, ms. marvel? [speaking foreign language] >> hi, hello, lovely to meet you. it was while editing the show we were wondering what was the next step, and the next step was marvel, it's the biggest in the business, and we were joking around saying, if we are gonna be part of the mcu, you it has to be a muslim character. not knowing that there was a muslim character out there, named kamala khan, and that's how we got to know that character and fell in love with her world and it also felt relatable to us because growing up as muslim moroccans in belgium, we were also 15, 16, troubling with our identity with the belgian and muslim culture. and you sort of recognize that in her everyday life as a pakistani girl from jersey.
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>> last, year at the usc scene and hamburg initiative released its first ever study on muslim representation in hollywood, i don't know if you had a chance to see it. but it focused on 200 top grossing films from around the world between 2017 and 2019. and it found that muslims were less than 2% of the nearly 8000 speaking characters, and when they were shown, the muslim characters were stereotyped as outsiders threatening or subservient particularly to the white characters. what impact does this absence of representation and misrepresentation have on muslims everywhere? >> i think that the fact that muslims is a part part of the world, it's such a small part of the movie industry, and it causes an effect that you know, as a group, muslims will feel isolated because people don't necessarily know muslims, they
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only know them through movies, that's a very narrow image of them. we tried to do in our work is to really show that diversity of the muslim culture, whether it's a movie or tv show like ms. marvel where you just see normal teenage girl who happens to be a pakistani muslim girl that navigates throughout the same struggles as everybody, it's a pretty universal story to tell. or movie like what we did rebel that premiered in cannes that really talked about extremism, we talked about what happened in syria, but you see it through the muslim lens, and how complex it, is and how muslims are victims of that extremism. i think it's important to include the stories more in the cinema of today. >> you know one of the things that i loved about the show is that it doesn't shy away from sensitive parts of history.
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it touches on the partition of india, i don't want to give away too much of the plot line, but her powers come from a bangle that belong to her great grandmother who disappeared during the partition. what is it like taking on such a sensitive part of history and being able to explain it in this modern context? >> i think it's important to acknowledge that history and that culture because she is a pakistani girl and, yes, that heritage is something that is part of identity of her character, and you cannot ignore the fact that when you have the history of the partition, and it was important for the cocreator of the show, a pakistani woman from jersey, or another pakistani director, it was very important for them on the personal and emotional level, and even though it's a controversial aspect of history, life is controversial, and it adds to the authenticity of that character. >> i really love the esthetic of the show and just how dynamic it was.
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i watched it with my own children who are now obsessed with it. you've cited both spike lee and boy meets world as influences behind the show. can you explain that and how that sets ms. marvel apart from other mcu shows? >> it's a pretty broad influence that we have, specially, it's the way he shows new york in his movies, the cultural shots, the funky, aspect the neighborhoods, and the boy meets world for, us it's just the american high school tv shows that we watched growing up, because high school in belgium is pretty different, it looks more like a harry potter school, so american high school was very exotic. so we would watch boy meets world, saved by the bell, it was very interesting for us. and we got the chance to make an american high school show, we just used all those influences and, you're, right regardless of, that we use a lot of animation to try to
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portray the dream world of the main character. and that's different from the other mcu shows and movies, and we were very lucky that it allowed us to have a different style and really our own personality for the show. >> yes, i was going to say, as someone who lives in new york, you made jersey look very cool. i'm gonna make a trip into new jersey to check it out because it definitely looks very cool in ms. marvel. i have to ask you this, really quickly though, ms. marvel, the highest rated marvel series on rotten tomatoes, it's been an incredible success. how does it feel to receive that kind of critical acclaim? where do you expect this series to go from here? >> it's really above you will. we never expected, that we just try to do our best, but this is very ambitious, last one being our. so i hope that it will last because it doesn't bring the numbers down all of a sudden. but it's just a great honor and
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we hope that we are able to contribute news -- was especially the younger ones. so yeah, it's [speaking foreign language] , as you say, it's a big. honor >> it, is congratulations to you and everyone who has worked on the show. it's absolutely incredible. as i mentioned, we're obsessed with it, here in our. how is congratulations to you and everyone who made this happened. [speaking foreign language] , make you so much. next, this is not shocking assassination of the former prime minister of japan, shinzo abby. minister of japan, shinz abby abby a painful, blistering rash that could interrupt your life for weeks. forget social events and weekend getaways. or pharmacist about shingles.
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news overseas, former japanese leader shinzo abe died friday
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at the age of 67 after being shot at a campaign event in the western city of nara, in a country where gun violence is nearly nonexistent because of strict gun control laws. the man is being investigated for murder. today, japanese police admitted there were flaws in the security for the former prime minister. at the time of his death. and the police chief has yet to identify these issues through a thorough investigation. abe remained a towering political figure despite stepping down as japan's longest serving prime minister in 2020 due to health. an emotional press conference praised his colleague was, and said that this is absolutely devastating. fashida said that despite the tragedy, the elections will be conducted, and the -- since abe's passing, world leaders have expressed their
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