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primetime. and focusing on donald trump's quote, supreme dereliction of duty during the capitol attack during which he chose not to act. it comes as the former president is reportedly flirting, announcing another bid for the white house. this morning? a member of the committee, congresswoman elaine doria says that that will not change their investigation. >> no one is above the law. whether he is the president, a former president, or potential future presidential candidate, we are going to pursue the facts, and analyze those and add recommendations, and if necessary we're going to pass that information to other people. >> in the meantime, president biden is back at the white house today after his first trip to the middle east as president. it comes as he is facing some new backlash from members of his own party for his meeting with the saudi crowned prince. >> when you have the leader of that country, who is involved in the murder of a washington
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post journalist. i don't think that that type of government should be rewarded with a visit by the president of the united states. >> plus, we are waiting for new information as a texas house investigative committee is expected to release a preliminary report today on the school massacre in uvalde that killed 21 people. first, reporting for us this hour, with nbc's julia jester joining us from capitol hill, and laura barrett is standing by at the white house. ladies, welcome to you both. julia, let's go to you first. let's get a reaction today from another key member of the january six committee, for those missing secret service texts, what's the latest on the? >> the january 6th committee, and it told them about its cooperation, and interactions with the secret service. now, one of those members, representative so lofgren had a pretty strong reaction to what they found out about the secret services cooperation, or lack thereof, she says, with the
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investigation. take a listen to what she said. >> you can imagine how shocked we, were to get the letter from the inspector general, saying that he had been trying to get this information and that they had in fact been deleted, it was made by the spokesperson from the department saying, was a true, was it fair? and they in fact, -- fine, you have, them we need them. we expect to get them by this tuesday. we need all the texts, from the fifth, and the 6th of january i was shocked to hear, that they did not a backup their data, before they reset their iphones. that is crazy, i do not know why they would, we need to get this information, to get the full picture. >> the secret service has until a deadline of tuesday, of the subpoena to get those text messages, to the committee. it said in a statement, it will
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respond swiftly. all eyes are on what those texts might show, ahead of this week's big primetime hearing on thursday, which several members of the committee have said, will be the finale of this series of hearings, so it might not be the last one ever. but it could be the last week here for a while, so it's important to get those messages. alex? >> all right julia, thank you for that. more, welcome. now that the president is back stateside, how is he responding to the controversy that has surrounded his trip to the middle east? there have been a couple of issues? >> there have been. we knew going into this trip, that there was controversy surrounding it, president certainly is not avoiding that coming home, even though he is trying to tell the cease firing, as well as an agreement for the saudis to start pumping more oil. that has been incredibly vague, we have seen the fallout from the presidents fist bump, and
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also, with some of the other conversations on whether or not, he really held his foot to the, far when it came to the human rights issues, surrounding the journalist, jamal khashoggi. that you heard from bernie sanders just. that the president arriving here at the white house, late overnight last night, speaking to reporters, holding firm on how he addressed these issues, while abroad. here is some of what he said to reporters. >> [inaudible] >> well inflation go down from here? >> [inaudible] >> president got a little cut off, there it sounded like he was saying, we will know more on inflation, in the next couple of weeks. especially as we hear more, depending on when they meet the
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next month, about increasing that will supply, obviously, inflation, at a record high right now, above 9% this week. economic adviser, jared bernstein, was on the sunday show this morning, and said the president is unequivocal not calling it mission accomplished, on any of this. we're talking about the decline, that is completely insufficient. and referring to gas prices, coming down a little bit, in the last month. they predicted it would be coming down, even more. but the forecasts are so volatile, we really cannot -- he lightly defended, the president, in the middle east today, saying a more economically stable secure middle east, only does good for america, but as you kind of a top your, show, you've heard from during -- bernie sanders, a lot of republican lawmakers, are really firing back against the president today, as he comes back from saudi arabia. alex? >> all right, thank you so much. from the white house, we appreciate that. let's bring in jeff mason, white house correspondent, hey
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to you. i am glad to have you here. you heard them reference jarrett bernstein, let's say no -- first of all, about the sense inside the white house today, what was the primary goal of the strip? and did the president, get it done at least to some extent? >> i think, the answer to that question is yes. that he went there, in large part, to reset relations with the country, that he had referred to as a representative -- presidential candidate. his remarks, or rather his meeting, with the crown prince, by directly addressing the khashoggi murder, and saying according to the president, he held them responsible for that. and then they went on to discuss the other issues, as my colleague just said before, the details of energy, are pretty vague. the president said, afterwards, i expect something in the
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coming weeks. but you have not heard them say we are ready. >> i will ask my director josh, to throughout the tweet that you put. it's relative to jamal khashoggi, and the discussion between the president and mbs on that. they have pushed back. when i say, they i mean the saudis, to some degree. where does the truth lie in this? >> well, i guess, in some ways, it depends on who you ask. the president says specifically, he embraced it. and u.s. intelligence of course says, that the crown prince was directly involved in approving that murder. and the president says, that the crown prince denied it. there was a question last night, saying, he did not hear president biden say that. according to my colleagues on the ground, he was not in the whole meeting. that is one reason, why we did not end up reporting that last
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night. because that was not something that was taken as seriously. because he was not there, for the whole meeting. so. >> that is a caveat. >> depends on who you ask. >> so, many have suggested, as you well know, that a major goal of this, is to push the saudis to ramp up their oil production. and helped produce this -- the white house shied away from that narrative. but with any progress, tangible progress made on that front? >> they did shy way from that narrative, because i think they do not want to get the impression, that is the only reason the president went to saudi arabia. the truth is, this is a president who had, very mixed feelings about engaging with him at all. engaging with that country at all. energy is a big reason why he had to. with inflation, as you have been talking about already, being over 9.1%, a large part of what is driving, that he needed to gauge, or at least you decided he needed to gauge,
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with the saudi government about oil. to your question, did they get what they want? i think unfortunately the answer to that, is still, to be determined. opec meets in early august, we will see what kind of decisions they make. and i suggest, it does not have a lot more capacity. as the biden administration, said there is capacity out there. clearly, him going, there was a victory. they may want to give him something in return for that. we will see. >> yeah, okay. stay tuned for that one. what about the new cnbc poll? shows the president approval rating stands at 32% right now. is the white house paying attention to the polls? is there frustration over these numbers, particularly timing wise, as we approach the midterms? >> any white house -- has always downplayed the role of polls, we will say they are not paying close attention to, it not focused at the work at hand. they cannot work at it.
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the timing of it coming [inaudible] once you will see is the white house getting the president out on the road more. talking his opponent -- accomplishments more. but, it's a tough time. if those inflation numbers do not show some improvement in the coming months, his poll numbers will likely suffer. and democrats chances in november, are likely to suffer. >> how much do you think, because of the makeup of the fractured makeup we should say of the house and the senate, even though technically -- going along with the president, going along with the show, how much you think the president will have to resort to executive order, to get things done? >> the presidents hide are tied on some things, in regards to executive orders. he has shown that he is willing to use it, and he said after senator manchin, -- climate legislation, that he
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will act using executive orders. that's something we will see, in the coming weeks. what exactly, is we do not know yet. but i think, to your question alex, that they are preparing executive orders, right now. no doubt. on climate, and perhaps, they've use executive orders on gun control already. and another area, the bottom line is, an executive order is not the same as legislation. they would like [inaudible] >> jeff mason, always good to see you. thank you so much for joining us on this sunday. in the meantime, the doctor who performed an abortion for that ten-year-old ohio girl, may face a huge legal fight. but she is not -- she's getting a whole lot of support and help. we will explain that for you. america's heat wave, might be bad. but in europe, it is a catastrophic crisis.
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record breaking heat wave, hundreds dead, some never before seen temperatures, weather warnings across several countries, and now, out of control wildfires, have some areas dealing with a double disaster. megan fitzgerald is in london, with the latest. >> wildfires are ripping through europe, and parts of northern africa. in spain, 17 fires are raging across the country and thousands are fleeing their homes. this woman is saying, she is devastated. so far, nearly 400 people have died from the extreme heat, as temperatures hit 114 degrees. it is a desperate effort, for first responders, working quickly to save lives, and homes, as neighbors rushed to evacuate. >> once you can field -- feel the intensity of the heat, and the wind, that is it. >> a similar scene in france. where fires are intensifying. 25,000 acres of burning, near the famed wine region of
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bordeaux. police going door to door, getting residents out, before it is too late. so far, the country has seen 12,000 evacuations. the deadly heat wave that is gripping europe, comes at the height of the summer tourist season. in the united kingdom, a crisis situation in the country, we're most live without air conditioning. government officials, holding an emergency meeting today. >> it's friday the 22nd of july, 2050. >> two years ago, the uk's national weather agency, put out this forecast, to warn about climate change. >> highs will be around 40 celsius. >> that was scary. that was also nbc's megan fitzgerald, reporting. he is among donald trump's fiercest most loyal defenders, also a former white house advisor. tomorrow, steve bannon goes on trial, for refusing to cooperate with january six committee. how critical is it for ben into tell-all? will he ever do it? next. next. my tribe has lived on this land for 12,000 years.
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indianapolis conan came out, ob/gyn who he was already provided an abortion care to gone with the debit card a ten year old rape victim and the idea for doctors across a summit that. the country have raised nearly after he took possession of her bank debit card, $100,000 to help with her he returned security to the shed that he related had expenses next to was also thinking the supporters that she has driveway vowed to continue. he her work took a poll right of. the contempt trial her and for steve bannon begins he had tomorrow. a judge a recent newspaper denied the former trump next to her, it's advisers attempts to a proof of life type postpone his photograph. trial, for failing to >> comply with the he committee's photocopy did the photo, subpoena last year. writing on let's go to my colleague a ransom note on, who a typewriter that he has made his way to the recently purchased. studio. he's following the story for us, welcome. we have jury selection he then goes to connor's park, starting tomorrow. what can we expect? >> good morning putting the ransom note under alex. this is a mason dog poster. a situation in which steve bannon is the first from the doj to face prosecution from his refusal to comply with january 6th select committee. we are moving after he on a timeline, sent the photo, he tut sent a january six committee is looking at a text to cement his the reality that if republicans were to take back control boyfriend. of the house of it was the day representatives, come before the fund-raiser that this
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november here, the myself and a few january 6th select committee, other ladies efforts, would be helped squashed here. that is why you see -- we're meeting the referral from at a restaurant them, for criminal and contempt charges, to the doj, it's he her boyfriend significant. dwayne we are just went expecting, 9 am eastern time shoot white, for the court to. he walks begin to go through over with his the jury selection phone and he process. steve bannon over the shows it to course of last week, through his james and the lawyer, has made air gets repeated efforts to sucked out of the room get this case thrown out. . there is a situation because now here, in which the there is steve bannon, a possible link his lawyer has. there is contended that if something they had known the white house, the former white house would not have made the case of executive privilege, to keep him from being able to turn over those documents. that they would have potentially complied with january six select committee's subpoena. yet, the court said, sorry, this case is going through here on monday. i want to let you hear from adam kinzinger, who is the republican member on this january 6th select committee. because the case of the doj's prosecuting is important, the select committee believes that
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steve bannon has a plethora of information, specifically about those days leading up to january 6th, but also as well as leading up to donald trump's speech, that election night in which he suggested at the time that he had actually won. and that they were going to take this fight, ultimately for months to come. adam kinzinger laid out a newly-released audio clip, from steve bannon, in which bannon suggested, that there was a so-called, red mirage, in which he was going to appear, based on the original vote count, the republicans, donald trump was likely to win. ultimately though, he knew that was not going to be the case, and that donald trump should declare victory. take a look, and listen to adam kinzinger here, this morning. >> steve bannon is an agent of chaos, in his own words, you have to basically burn the system down, to rebuild it and fix it. what he is seeing right there, is very clearly, him saying, no matter what, we are declaring
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victory. that is a violation of everything we have to hold dear, in the constitution. >> for nearly a year, the select committee was trying to get this information out of steve bannon. who's continually put up roadblocks, complying here with a subpoena. that is where you heard adam kinzinger lay out, steve bannon is a figure of chaos. steve bannon, also offered in the last week, to testify publicly, before the select committee here. there is a lot of skepticism -- skepticism about what his intentions were going to be. over the last year, steve bannon has remained defiant. and repeatedly suggested that, the january 6th select committee, has been -- to undermine america first movement. >> putting it live in front of the committee and testimony, he would be a complete loose cannon. would not be able to control what he might say. thank, you great setup, i appreciate that my friend. joining me right now to further
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discussion, and beyond, i'm -- harry lippman. former u.s. attorney, and deputy assistant attorney general. he's now host of the talking feds protest. harry listening to phone story there, there's all this hullabaloo about this that and the other. in essence steve bannon was just saying, let's just lie. about what the results of the election were, right? if you are boiling it down, is that not what it is? >> 100% which is why, why they want to talk to him. lying about the contempt charge, it's an open and shut case from way back. he never had any possible claim, there's almost a satisfaction in seeing, this swatch buckling braggart, -- now that he has to face the court and cross-examination. it's an open and shut case, jury selection will probably take longer than the government needs proof he needs to be convicted. >> what are you looking for, in this? it's pretty rare, for a case
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like this to be brought to trial? what do you think also, whatever comes in the, and you think he's going to be convicted, what does that signal to other trump allies, who are also refusing to comply with the committee's subpoenas? >> that's why they brought. it as you say, there is a concrete cost here, at least for, now they have not been able to get the testimony. same is true with meadows. and navarro. they had to refer for content, in order to actually sober up the other witnesses, who are thinking of maybe being resistant, as well. there is a cost, but when i'm looking for here, is for him to be convicted. and that may be, there is no reason, this goes for meadows as well. the reason why the committee cannot re-subpoena, and now he would have, he never did, but not even the slightest basis for refusing. once they go into that system, you cannot get their testimony out, until they have run the
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course. >> you bring up mark meadows. who also failed to comply with the subpoena, there is a judge, or the doj, did not bring charges. but late friday, a doj filing says, former advisers, to former president, do not have absolute testimonial immunity. that is what meadows has claimed, and the january six committee has officially shown the need for him to testify. so, does he get ordered to appear before the committee? and if so how significant could his testimony be? >> not immediately, hugely significant. it is a very important development, that the doj has said, this claim does not wash. i think it was always dubious, but it is a criminal penalty, they could have concluded, we are not going to take away someone's liberty, if he had sort of a good faith basis. now he has, if the departments position prevails, and it is a filing and litigation, if the
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court accepts it, and he will appeal it, and delay, when it goes through and the courts accepted, then he has no leg to stand on. then they can subpoena him, and by the way, it's all appearances, as the committee has given it, with a series of blockbuster hearings, he is the guy with more goods on trump, than anybody. if the doj position polls, pulls the rug out from under him, and forces him down the line to testify, he gets to pushback for now, in the courts. >> i agree with you, i think once cassidy testified, there was a laser focus on mark meadows. let's talk about the secret service, that has just until tuesday now to comply with the subpoena, demanding that it hands over the phone records. from those days surrounding the capitol attack. the homeland security inspector general, told the committee that text messages were deleted. what kind of questions, do these missing text messages,
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raise for you? and what happens if the agency fails to hand them over by tuesday? if they have been deleted, first of all they have to go to the process of retrieving them? >> yes. if they say we cannot get them, but we are working on it, here's the actual goods, and you try to retrieve them, that will count as compliance. by the way, each of the ancients was required to make a copy. but they didn't. secret service has a long history here, and the reason it really could matter, at a minimum, these texts will have a lot of testimony, about what trump was doing on the sixth. how upset he was, how he wanted to go to the capital. well that is really probing it for him. there could be something broader, and more ominous here, also, remember. pence said, i am not going with you secret service. and he was very aware, that the head of trump's detail, was a total trump crony.
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of the darkest possibility, but they have to investigate, is it possible the secret service even, was in on some overall plan, to disable pence? and thereby, let trump potentially sail through, on january 6th? that is what is at stake. and given the closeness of the detail, to trump and their history, which is pretty squarely, david least got a look at it. >> that is frightening, for sure. let me ask you this, before i let you go. these hearings, numerous clips have been played of white house attorneys, and white house staffers, saying that the trump was not stolen, he should back down. could any potential defense lawyer, argue that the former president was entitled to listen to those outside lawyers? the city, owls rudy giuliani, even if they were offering terrible, even as legal advice, would prosecutors have to prove trump's reliance on those lawyers was in bad faith? how hard would that be?
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>> short answers. no we've gone back and forth. what he's doing is illegal. he knows it's illegal, even if he credits -- that will be an issue at trial. the first thing that would come up for prosecutors is, every grown up in the room, everyone on team normal, tells him otherwise. he himself told him why he listens to them. given some chance whereas otherwise, he would have none. that is not a real reason. there are three different ways, literally where, he could offer that as a defense. you would probably have to testify to do it. which would be a whole another crazy situation. but it should not fly, and in any event, i think it is now being disproven. it's the stuff people will talk about, i don't think he has a light to stand on their, at this point, with everyone, again and again, saying this doesn't work.
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>> harry litman, you always work for me, so come see me again. growing covid concerns across america, with increasing cases, hospitalizations and even deaths, should americans put their masks back on?
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many of you are well aware of covid cases across the country, they are on the rise. this thanks to a new more infectious subvariant. the biden administration is now so concerned about ba.5, it has
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extended the public health emergency declaration, which allows many americans access to covid tests, to treatments and vaccines. joining me now, dr. natalie -- medical computer push -- welcome dr., natalie, let's look at the last couple of weeks alone. covid has gone up 12.6% in the u.s., several cities are now asking people to start taking more precautions. they are saying, you should wear a mask indoor. anytime in crowded spaces. how severe is this wave now? how severe is it going to be? how does this sub variant, compared to predecessors? >> alex, i feel, we are in a little bit of a cycle, if you will. each sub lineage from the original omicron variant has proved to be even stealthy than its predecessor. the virus is behaving exactly
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as we would expect it to. that is to become better and better at evading immunities, doing that in order to survive. i think we get lulled into this concept, or i should say, that we can have two things happening in parallel. meaning, on the one hand we are getting accustomed to this, this becomes our new normal, we are traveling, eating indoors, doing all those things. at the same time, we are also recognizing that, for a certain percentage of the population, getting sick with covid-19 is still, and can still be a very serious illness. when it comes to wearing a mask, an indoor public places, you are doing your own risk assessment, that you have been doing. we've drilled it into people, for the last two and a half years. are you trying to prevent every infection? you're boosting and masking indoors, if you recovered from covid-19, and you are like, if i get it again, i get it again. you are not masking indoors. it is not a one size fits all, as much as we would like to,
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fit everything in, very neatly. alex, it's just not. it varies based on your age, your online -- underlying conditions, your boosting status. where you live in the country. it's impossible to tell everyone, to do that. >> before i ask you something about the biden administration, do you think that because the efficacy of the vaccine has brought down the severity, the vast number of hospitalizations, the deaths that we were seeing, that were beyond horrific, do you think that has sort of, infiltrated the mentality of everybody? i got the vaccine, does that we -- take a predominant approach? >> i think we've tried to communicate a couple of different things on that point alex. that is that, i will, we have to understand that you absolutely cannot prevent every infection. if we are aiming to do that, we would all, you and i, we would have to get boosted every 3 to
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4 months, indefinitely. it's like, we've had booster mania in this country. but, we have also communicated to your point, that if you have been vaccinated, you are still very well protected against severe disease, and hospitalization, and death. that has not changed. in fact recently, the cdc made a point about saying, if you have had four shots, to boosters instead of three, four times less likely to die. but is that for everyone over the age of 50? i am 52, otherwise healthy, knock on wood. does that apply to me? there is granular detail, that we are not getting from the data, it's probably the older folks. people with underlying medical conditions, who are always going to be vulnerable to this alex. no matter how much it mutates, until it becomes the common cold, which it clearly is not yet. >> monkeypox, have to go there. this outbreak is a growing concern around the country. we have cities that are
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struggling to meet the demand for vaccines. how serious is the situation for you? would you think? >> you know, it's so easy to just compared to covid. because, it is the infectious disease, it is the public health systems failure to point oh. if we are just comparing, it's apples to oranges. there is no real concern here alex, that the monkeypox is going to become an airborne disease, the way covid-19 is. it's not in its dna, literally. that is not how they behave. on a different level, i think from number one, from a public health perspective, we were late on testing, we are behind on vaccination, communicating properly to the populations at risk, all of that is important. i think we are catching up. but we are not quite there yet,
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i also want to echo, one, with the w.h.o. experts have said over the last couple of weeks, is that, this has been a problem, in africa for years. only since it hit european countries in america, that we are taking it seriously. but it is serious. it is a pox virus. and that certainly, and developing countries, is a big deal, for individuals here alex. it is a comfortable -- incredibly uncomfortable, and painful. but not deadly. but, it is still a big deal. those populations, we need to make sure that we are protecting people, and communicating to them effectively. >> nobody wants to get it. that's for sure, dr. natalie, thank you, good to see you. if money talks, and what does it say about democratic hopes of retaining power in congress? that's next.
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>> now, to the latest on the midterms and the money raised.
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new fundraising numbers so democrats are brick against a pretty big bucks. in pennsylvania, candidate john fetterman raised a record $11 million since april. compare that to republican, mehmet oz, who raised about 3.8 million. in the texas governor's race, another record set by democrat beto o'rourke, making in $27 million compared to greg abbott's 25 million. then, in georgia, democratic senator raphael warnock posting a 17.2 million dollar haul well republican herschel walker raised 6.2 million. joining me now, michael singleton, political consulted and host of the screen share on peacock. david jolly, former congressman from florida and an msnbc political contributor. and michael starr hopkins, democrats strategist a contributor to the daily beast. hey, guys, welcome all. good to have you here. so, these numbers, it shows you right there, the candidates across the border posting a blockbuster fund-raiser numbers.
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you have michael bennet out of colorado, don't want to leave him off, because he has nearly ten times the cash his gop challenger. david, to you. what do you make of it, what does it say about the race right now? >> it's a real bright spot for democrats, money represents intensity and we know there's high intensity among democratic voters given all the challenges to their priority right now. but the roe decision, the dobbs decision and others. i still think the issues they face a november provide a challenge. ultimately, alex, money translates to messaging. you use the money to put your message, your core message, in front of voters. i think that's the area where democrats perhaps have not yet landed on with their messages for november. and that's fine, it's early. but have money in the bank, to pay to get that messaging out, that's a good place for democrats to be right now. >> absolutely. as long as they focus and harness in on what they need to be saying, that's for sure. sure michael, let's go to you now.
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we have john fetterman and pa, also making headlines this week after posting this can be a video. it is from jersey shore star, snookie. let's take a look. >> i heard that you moved from jersey to pennsylvania to look for a new job. personally, i don't know why any that he would want to leave jersey. >> you know, is this a consistent pattern what's fetterman strategy? he uses memes, internet trolling tactics. they're all out there. how effective do you think it is? >> i don't think it's effective at all. i'm assuming he is attempting to target younger voters and, if you look at most polls for most of this year, a lot of younger voters are not as enthusiastic about the midterms for a host of reasons. particularly issues such as college debt and the promises that were made by the president at the party, and nothing has been accomplished on that issue. so, i get why he's trying to target them, it's a huge voting bloc for the democrat party.
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i've always said to a lot of my former republican friends, and i'm sure the former congressman would agree, if democrats could somehow turn out younger voters consistently, republicans would have a hard time winning anything. >> well, but to your point, he is probably targeting younger voters with this. so, he is listening to that piece of advice. what about you, michael, because there's a lot of frustration with the democrat party today after senator manchin once again pulled the plug on a climate tax and energy package that was a negotiation. i mean, this is something that would arguably help his party before november. and it may be the democrats last chance to pass any significant legislation while controlling the house, the senate and the white house. why not go through with it? and beta say what he says, which is because of inflation. but it doesn't seem to stop him from voting on other bills. so, what is joe manchin doing? >> i mean, joe manchin is a republican's democrat at this point. he's not a person who cares that his status with poorest state in the union and would
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benefit from jobs created from this bill. would benefit from health care expansion, child tax here credits, health care credits going towards people who are addicted to drugs, people who have opioid addiction. he doesn't care about any of that stuff. he cares about k street, law being firms and corporations. he's made that patently clear. i think he's been a bad faith negotiator for democrats and i think chuck schumer has consistently got the wool pull over his head, when it comes to joe manchin. i know point has he ever actually intended to vote with democrats. instead, he's made sure that minorities have less access to the ballot, made sure that americans have less access to health care and made sure that americans have a harder time finding jobs. that doesn't sound like a democrat to me. >> yeah, right. there's also reporting this week that donald trump is getting closer to potentially announcing another bid for the white house. the law treated post is reporting an announcement may come as soon as this fall,
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potentially upending the midterms, david. if you are a republican running any midterm race right now, how would you feel about that? what would you do? what would be your approach? >> donald trump is a drag on any republican race. he lost the popular vote in 16 and 20, he lost to georgia runoff seats for the senate. he is not the brightest part of the republican party, when it comes to a general election. but he still has the control of the party until someone wrestles it from him. alex, i do think he will announce before november for two reasons. his own vanity and his own grift. but he has to do that before november 1st, for very bright line reasons. mitch mcconnell, ron desantis. he cannot let the story be about mcconnell and mccarthy taking back the house and senate should they do so, nor about this governor in florida whose air apparent to the republican nomination. donald trump understand storytelling, he's gotta grab that line ahead of november, i think that's why he declares.
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>> can you tell me, kevin mccarthy, why would donald trump for kevin mccarthy? i know mitch mcconnell, he stood up to him. on desantis is someone who could potentially be against him. i get that. but why would he fear kevin mccarthy? >> it's not fair, it's jealousy. if donald trump does not on the news cycle of election night, then kevin mccarthy does as the incoming republican speaker of the house. mcconnell does as the leader of the senate iran to chant east as the future of the party. donald trump won't let that happen. >> oh, okay, thanks for clarifying. also today, we have the washington post with this updated list, i'm looking at it right now, of ten top democratic candidates for 2024. it comes about a week after this poll from the new york times said that a majority of democrats want someone other than president biden to run in the election. so, when you look at the list, michael, i'll give it to you, do you see any names that could feasibly lead the party two years from now? >> look, i think governor prince kerr is someone who's making a lot of noise.
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>> not on that list, by the way. >> which is surprising. because he was down in florida yesterday, making a lot of noise at their convention. i think avenues them as someone who has really taken on republicans. >> on the list. >> but i think california is going to be problematic. and roy cooper is another one, being from north carolina, kind of being in the mold of a bill clinton democrat. it's someone that could appeal to a broad base in the democratic party. >> yet, he's on the list. shermichael, i'll give you the last word on this. who on this list do you think might make it work on this list? >> i would argue, look at what's gavin new summit saying. i get what michael was saying about a big from california but, if i'm a democrat and i think about the future for the democrat party is going, i think some of the issues of your most pertinent voting blocks. african american and latino voters, they want someone like to have a new system. i think his messaging is quite attractive to those waters.
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that's why i think we saw newsom focus just two weeks ago in an ad that donald trump. >> he said it was for national reasons but. you know michael, i'm from california, just saying. don't be writing on california. >> i live in l.a. now. >> you do? oh my, god we have to get together. i go out there all the time. we'll talk. thank, you guys, good to see you. in the meantime, breaking news from uvalde. right, now a committee is preparing to release that report on the attack on uvalde. but lawmakers are making sure families get the report before it goes public. we'll have the latest word on what may be in that report, next. what may be in that report next
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you, from msnbc world headquarters here in new york. welcome everyone, to alex witt reports. we have breaking news from uvalde, texas on another emotional day for parents of robb elementary. nbc news has confirmed, parents have now received copies of this video of the mass shooting on may 24th. surveillance video of the shooting was leaked last week and then published by the austin american-statesman. two teachers and 19 children were killed that day, when a gunman burst into a classroom and opened fire while on enforcement officers waited in the school hallways. today, parents also picked up printed copies of a preliminary report on the shooting, compiled by a gop-led texas house committee.


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