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starts right thank you so muchd sharpton, for the powerful reminder. hello everyone. i'm alicia menendez. we begin this hour with the unfinished work of the january 6th committee, and the trail of bread crumbs the committees leaving for the department of justice to follow. the committee has now connected the dots, showing trump's full throttle attempt to overturn the 2020 election. but, there are still facts uncovered, as the committee carries on with its investigation, and prepares for a new round of hearings the september. committee member, elaine luria, this morning on meet the press. >> so, liz cheney made the dam is broken. so the floodgates are open, i think initially planned the arc of the story, the information the way we present that through these hearings, we thought that the hearing this week would be the final hearing. but so many more witnesses have come forward, you know, we've got to new information that we are requesting and receiving as well from the secret service, and there's just a lot of
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questions so to be answered on that front. >> a lot of questions still to be answered. and in a new column for the washington post, ruth marcus writes, quote, a select committee has performed a vital public service by amassing the record it has, amidst the place to continue. especially for those who doubted that this enterprise was worth the effort is the critical role of congressional oversight, for posterity as well as the president. but another lesson, one manifested during watergate, is that oversight has its limits. federal prosecutors possess unrivaled power to assemble evidence, and about testimony overcoming bogus assertions of privilege, and granting immunity when warranted. our justice department officials preparing to deploy that authority, when it comes to the events surrounding january 6th? >> joining me now to discuss, msnbc contributor and former u.s. attorney, joyce alene joyce vance. she is now a law professor at university of alabama. also with us, national
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correspondent for new york magazine, gabriel debenedetti. it's good to see you, both. joyce, i wanna start with you. you have a committee member adam kinzinger on abc this morning, talking about the justice department. let's take a listen. >> we never want to get in a position as a country. what you see and feel democracies is where every last administration is prosecuted. but there is a massive difference between, i'm gonna prosecute the last administration for political vengeance, and not prosecute them in the administration actually attempted to fail, a failed coup. that is a precedent i'm way more concerned about. if there is evidence that this happened from a judicial perspective, if there is the ability to move forward on prosecuting, and you don't, you have basically set the floor for future behavior of any president. and i don't think a democracy can survive that. >> joyce, what do you think the doj is gonna do, and what do you make of this argument about precedent? >> so, representative kinzinger
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sets this argument right where it should be. there's this balance going on, literally, the scales of justice, that merrick garland has to weigh on the one hand, he's trying to preserve democracy at large, trying to avoid the sort of political overtone, that really is the hallmark of a failed democracy. at the same time, though, he has pressing evidence that the former occupant of the white house committed serious crimes, and needs to be held accountable for them. i think, going into the hearings, it wasn't entirely clear how the attorney general was looking at that balance. but we did have some indications that the justice department was investigating. what is clear after the hearing is that there is an abundant grouping of evidence, sufficient predication for the justice department to include the former president in the people that it's no clearly investigating, connected to liability for the events on january 6th. >> i mean, gave, there is
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accountability in the court of law, there's also accountability in the court of public opinion. we have a new poll from npr, showing just about one in five republicans blame trump for january 6th. the real story, you asked in those numbers, independent voters, 57% of them, now blaming trump for the attack. i wonder how you see the committees work playing out, when it comes to these upcoming midterms? >> well, i think, first and foremost, what you just talked about in this washington post bit by ruth marcus is a big part of this, it does have the ability. one of the big parts of congressional oversight, to really move public opinion, or at least to bring things to the floor, that wouldn't does early come to the floor in, for example, the department of justice investigation, which of course is very important. but with respect to the midterms, it's impossible to talk about these midterms, without talking about the shadow of january 6th, without talking about the shadow of what's happening here. you do have a lot of democrats who took the soleimani lead all the way into it.
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but more and more, people in the party are saying, this is completely inescapable because republican candidate after republican candidate, for many of them, it's like table sticks to even say that, to deny the election was legitimate, and it's, like many of them are now facing questions, if they haven't end up on the forefront of denying that election, about how they're planning to move forward with it. and of course, the person looming over all of this is former president trump, who is now making noises about wanting to, you know, run for president once again, in a large part, it seems because he wants to be able to paint the findings that this committee to paint what's coming to light, as a political investigation, has supposed to a legal one. obviously, that is unavoidable for voters, and moving forward, especially as it now seems, even though the committee does seem to have an artificial, but also for deadlines at the end of the year, more will be happening in this fall. this committee's work is not done. so that will be happening, and or at the same time, i should say, as more we are likely to hear from the justice department. >> so, joyce, pick up where
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gabe left off, which is this is not about flirting with a 2024 run, in order to serve the american people. this is about flirting with a 2024 run for retribution. you have axios reporting of trump's plan for a second term writing, quote, sources close to the former president say that he will, as a matter of top priority, go after the national security apparatus, clean house in the intelligence community and the state department, target the quote, woke generals at the defense department, and remove the top players of the justice department and the fbi. how bad could this get? how dangerous is it, joyce, that this is even when talking about? >> it's incredibly dangerous. and trump is very clear when he talks to people about what he looks for and employees he looks for loyalty. that might be a fine thing, when you are running a private company. that's not how governments are
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intended to work. government is intended to work for the people, not the president, and that's the fundamental misunderstanding that trump has about the role of a president. so, the moves that he is advocating for are extremely serious. many of these steps were set in motion, following the election, but they dropped out of their radar screen. i remember being astonished when these stories broke. they quickly dropped off out of our radar screens because of january six. but the evidence, completely revamping the federal workforce that people are not insulated from political firing, so that he would be able to put out an entire tier of professional workers, and replace them with people who are personally loyal to him. that is very dangerous, particularly when you are thinking about places like the justice department and the department of defense. >> here's the thing, gabe, we can talk about trump. we can talk about 2024, as the three of us have talked about many times. it's not just about trump.
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it's about trumpism and the way it has seeped into our politics. the washington post has new reporting on the two gop candidates for governor, and attorney general, in maryland. it reads, quote, both candidates described a country that was not merely in trouble, but being destroyed by leaders who despise most americans, effectively part of a civil war. in both swing states and stacey, many republicans say that liberals hate them personally and return rioters or a police state on people, who disobeyed him. so, i think it's sort of one thing, gabe, to talk about this through the lens of trump, and trump 2024, and what he's been doing. it's bigger than that, right? it is about political concept that has now seeped so deep, that these are people running for office in a state like maryland. >> absolutely. one of the big problems that democrats have run into is how to talk about this issue, without trying to seem like polemicists. of course, this is an existential threat, many people are recognizing, but if you
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recall the 2020 campaign clean
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away 2020 campaign -- representative cheney waited until of course that guilty verdict was returned against steve bannon for completely flouting the space now. that makes the message pretty clear to ginni thomas that regardless of her husband's, she will have to make some effort at compliance. she can't simply ignore subpoena, and she receives one. >> all right, joyce, gabe,
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thank you so much for getting us started. coming up next, mothers and texas fed up with governor greg abbott. and they are looking to do something about it. plus, new inflation numbers, to the presidents top economic advisers. they are looking for a way to cool it down. i'm gonna speak with one of them. later, republicans on the campaign trail, wielding sexism and misogyny, like a weapon, the minnesota's lieutenant governor a survivor of sexual assaults herself. she's calling them out. first, to richard lui who is standing by with a look at the other big stories we are watching with this hour, right here on msnbc. richard? >> thank you, alicia. officials in the bahamas, holding a press conference a short time ago, revealing 17 people have died after a boat carrying haitian migrants capsized this morning, and an infant is among the dead. at least 25 others were rescued. investigators believe the boat was on its way to miami from haiti. president biden's covid-19 symptoms are improving. his doctor says, biden's biggest issue today is a sore
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throat. he tested positive thursday, and doctors believe he has the ba.5 arrogant. so far, the first lady and vice president are still testing negative. while the heat is on across the northeast, especially in new york city, where eight advisories in effect for another hour or so. city officials, today, confirmed the first heat related death of a summer season. and the pope has arrived in canada. he is visiting for a week, and expected to apologize for the catholic church's role in the abuse of canadian school children, during the 19th century. pope francis will meet with survival survivors tomorrow. more american voices, right after this break. rs tomorrow. rs tomorrow. more american voicescale across all your clouds... it's easier to do more innovative things. [whistling] after this break we hit the bike trails every weekend , it's easier to do more innovative things. shinges doesn't care. i grow all my own vegetables shingles doesn't care.
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joining me now, the founder of mothers against greg abbott, nancy thompson. nancy, that ad is clearly geared at voters. we will talk about the voters that you are trying to reach in just a minute. but i think there's also an implicit message there to greg abbott, to republicans in your state. what is it your driving home with them? >> that women are not taken as citizens. we are fighting back, and we are fighting for our rights, and we are fighting for our families, and they can expect to fight when it comes to the ballot box this november. because we're not gonna stand for it. >> so, that's the message to then. again, though, that's like this, good at voters. talk to me about the type of voter that you're trying to reach with an ad like that. is this about persuasion? is this about motivation? who do you think you can move with that had? >> well, we are actually trying to bridge some gaps. we are trying to bring together
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independence, mantra publicans the democrats, trying to bring them together just to fight for change for texas, to try to do the right thing and piper all texas families, especially for women, women's rights and children. our time to stand up as, now so we are really trying to gear it towards, you know trying to find the people in the middle, the disenfranchised, the people who are just tired that texas gop. >> before the supreme court overturned roe v. wade, texas probably content managed to ban most abortions in your state. i wonder, how are the bands now impacting texans, making them perhaps rethink the role that government plays in their lives? >> yeah, i think they're impacting texas from all over the state, from role texas, to urban cities, we are seeing women and families having to make the most personal and dire decisions. and it's just not okay. it's just not okay. women have in texas have become
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second class citizens, overnight. so, women are really angry. there are no protections for incest or no protections for rape. and that's not okay. i mean, i have a 15-year-old. i have a daughter who is getting ready ready to go to college. i wanna make sure she has as many protections as possible, and i can't live in a world where my daughter has less rights now that i than i did when i was her age. >> mothers against greg abbott went viral with another act, featuring a pretty diverse groups of moms, calling out abbots extreme policies. and an msnbc opinion columnist argues that ad lays out, quote, a litany of the horrible policies promoted by abbott and his republican colleagues, they have made the state hell for anyone with a working conscience. from threatening to take trans kids away from their parents, to putting a bounty on women who seek abortion, and a bounty on anyone who tries to help them get one. it's loosening gun laws, and so many mass shootings. texas isn't a great state
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anymore. it's a failed state. the ad, i should note, has more than 3 million views on twitter alone. what about this message is breaking through? >> i just think that what we are doing, we're just trying to lay out all the different ways that the texas gop has been attacking families for the last couple of years. and we are just laying out, and we're just saying, we've had enough. we want to bring all mothers together, all the women together, anybody, mothers and others together, just to stand up and fight back. and it's just time for texans to take texas back. the texas gop has gone too far. so, we are fighting back. >> you know, you talked about sort of this group that you are trying to mass, as we said, some gaps that need to be filled. the group is also somewhat rare in the country, and in texas. it is bipartisan democrats, independents, moderate republicans. how are you working to broaden that coalition of texas voters,
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to counter the republican party's agenda? >> well, a couple of things. i just spoke at the texas democratic convention, and listen, we have to invite everybody to the table. we have to be friendly enough, and just start talking to each other again. so, one of the first things that we need to do is just talk to one another, invite people to table, having conversations as communities, because with the texas gop has have done but the last years, taking our communities and putting us on lock says, so we're all against one another. so it's not working for anyone. we all need to work together for a better community, for better neighborhoods, for better studies, for better, just, overall, just to improve life in texas. we need to fight for all texas citizens. and this can't be number one business, but to be at the bottom of everything else. and the people who are really paying the price for texas being number one in business actual texans. we were behind in education.
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we are at the bottom as far as, like, health care. we are number one killer of texas children, guns, gun violence. and that's just not okay anymore. it's time, we all have to fight back. as texans, we all have this opportunity right now to texas back. so, we're inviting everybody wants to take texas back, and create a nice, wonderful state that we can all live in again. we want everyone to come and join us, mothers and others, come and join us and join our cause, because together, we can work for change for texas. >> i hear you, nancy, on the mothers and others. and yet, i'm curious about the mother's piece of this, because during the trump years, we heard a lot about rage moms, and the power of rage moms at the polls. one of the issues that was bringing mothers out was the issue of family separations, happening at our border, under the trump administration of course, governor greg abbott has sort of continued a lot of that same rhetoric, a lot of that same anti-immigrant policies. why focus on moms, specifically?
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do you think that is a model that can apply in other states? >> you know what? when i'm singing, this model cannot be justified in texas, it can be applied all over the united states. the moms are met. all women are met. our rights under the table, we spent years trusting our politicians with our rights, and they filled us. so it's time for us women, just regular moms out there, and regular women out there, and female politicians just stand up and fight for our own rights. i mean, the male politicians are not gonna come and save us. it's up to us to stand up and fight for our rights, and the time is now. >> nancy thompson, thank you so much for being with us. coming up next, inflation nation, prices high at the pump and beyond. i'm gonna speak to one of the presidents advisers, who is calling on congress to step in. plus, new guidelines for i.c.e. agents, aimed at limiting family separations. what the new rules are? will they go far enough to end the practice once and for all?
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prices are still too high. but we believe that a lot of the actions that we've taken, and opaque it's taken in july and august, to increase supply, to stabilize the market, has definitely helped bring those prices down. we still need to work, you know, with refining, and that capacity to get those increases and that stability back down into the actual pump. >> the biden administration, working to ease economic burden facing americans, from lowering gas prices, as we just heard, to getting a handle on rising inflation. and now, what is being dubbed, shrink relation. manufacturers by the reducing the size of the products, and maintaining the sticker price. addressing these problems, viewed as do or die for the midterms. recent polling shows americans view inflation as the number one domestic challenge.
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only two in five americans say inflation is more important to them that guns, abortion, even health care. joining me now, heather boushey, member of the white house council of economic advisers. heather, it's good to see you. thanks so much for being with us. you called on congress to help americans struggling with inflation. can you give us a sense of what that it would do? what it would look like? and where do you see sort of the limits of what the administration can do compared to congress? >> well, certainly, fighting inflation is that the president's number one priority. he understands how challenging this is for families. let me start off with some good news that we've been seeing recent low. you know, gas prices have fallen now for 39 straight days, falling by over 60 cents, actually. there is now, you know, stations all around the country, where got actually something for less than $4 a gallon. so that's some good news, moving in the right direction. certainly, the president has
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remained focused on getting this legislation passed to congress that would lower the cost of some real pain points for families, description drugs, making sure that health care remains affordable. so, those are some things that congress could do into right now. that would help families coping with today's high prices. >> i mean, talking about those high prices. i want to ask you about shrinking, where people pay the same for less product talk us through sort of why that happens, and how it has allowed to happen and what can we don't do to stop it? >> well certainly when you go to the store, one way that retailers and sellers deal with high prices is they make things seem a little cheaper, so that people keep buying. or maybe, they make the more affordable. i mean, the reality is, we are all recovering from a historic global pandemic. the kinds of price increases that americans are facing are happening around the world. other countries are also seeing historically high prices. and, you know, everyone is
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trying to get through this period. while, you know, continuing to see a strong economy. so, i understand it is challenging for families. but again, there's some very good news in the following gas prices, which the president has been very much focused on. >> you know, heather, i was going through your official twitter account, and it was a reminder of how many issues that are often not framed as economic issues, are in fact deeply economic. so, i think about the overturning of roe v. wade, the rollback of reproductive rights that we are seeing across this country. we talk about it a lot of this program, a lot of programs, as being a medical issue, as being a societal issue. it is also an economic issue. what's gonna be the economic impact of what we are seeing across this country? >> well, here is the thing. being able to fully participate in our society means being able to control your productive freedom. and your reproductive choices.
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and that makes all the difference for, you know, young women or, you know, women, all through their lives, who are deciding when and how do get more education, or take that job, or support their families. they need to be able to control once reproductive reproduction, and can have a big effect on family conduct security. so, we know that it is so important. but fundamentally, it's important because this is about being able to fully engage in our society. it's about citizenship, and the rights of self control. >> heather, the country, the globe, sweltering. numerous eat advisers across the east coast. just today, yet, another issue, that's of course economic in nature i want you to listen to what former vice president al gore said today on meet the press. get your thoughts on the other side. >> ours are really in some ways similar to all of those almost
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400 law enforcement officers in uvalde texas, who were waiting outside an unlocked door. while the children were being massacred. they heard the screams, they heard the gunshots, and nobody stepped forward. god bless those families who suffered so much, a law fischel's states not typical with law enforcement usually does. confronted with this emergency, what we are doing with our inaction and failing to walk through the door and stop the killing, is not typical of what we are capable of as human beings. we do have the solutions. >> heather, a global emergency and existential threat. which is the economic cost of continuing to do nothing? >> as the president has said, climate change poses a clear and present danger to our
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society and economy. and as he said last week, if congress were to act he will. the president has been focused on a whole of government approach to address climate change, and it's so important and it is so important that we not stand still, that we take action as our gorgeous said, and so that is one of with the president's been focused on doing things like making it -- focusing on automobiles, cars making the more efficient. focusing on making sure that as we move towards electric vehicles that there are charging stations on around the country. one of the first things that we focused on, the bipartisan infrastructure law was executing on making sure that we move forward for electric vehicles, all of these steps that the president has taken, including new steps last week, really shown the urgency and dedication that he has to addressing this issue. nothing could be more important
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for our economy as well as for the environment. for our economy, making sure that we are focused on creating a clean energy that's going to create good jobs all across the united states. >> thank you so much for being with us. coming up next, an update from ukraine. new details about historic sites taking on by russian forces. exclusive and neighboring country says [inaudible] half 1 million displaced by war. as the january six committee committee continues to reveal information about possible criminal conduct by trump, biden's administration, we will attorney general garland you? biden's administration, we wil biden's administration, we wil attorney general (young woman) three? (grandmother) did you get his number? (young woman) no, grandma! grandma!! (grandmother) excuse me! (young woman vo) some relationships get better with time. that's why i got a crosstrek.
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about what happened during this mass shooting. >> maybe formulas on the way. >> voters are voting on his big primary day. >> major developments in the january six investigation. >> throughout the day, the crowds have been growing. >> it is no month five of russia's invasion of ukraine with no end in sight. ukrainian government today confirmed at least 183 religious sites across the country, now damaged and destroyed. it is a massive blow to the vivid history, culture and identity of the ukrainians. ukrainians leadership remains defiant, though. president zelenskyy said his people will never give up their independence. this, as ukraine moves ahead of france to resume grain exports from odessa despite saturday's missile attack by russia on the port city. all of this, as millions remain displaced forced from their
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home by a war they never asked for. ukraine's neighbors still stepping up to the plate, including the nation of silver kia. nbc's richard louis -- louis got an exclusive inside of their efforts to protect ukraine's democracy. >> as many as hundreds an hour, ukrainian refugees flooding into slovakia. five months into the russian war, the test of helping refugees has grown as new challenges arise. >> how serious this food security right now for the region? >> there could be a famine, and then the famine starts immigration. we need to be active. we speak of asia, africa. ukraine is a big exporter. time is clicking. >> ukraine is the centerpiece, exporting for instance, nearly a third of sunflower grains. because of russia's war, the un warns 1.7 billion people could face hunger on a scale not seen in decades. that includes ukraine's neighbor, slovakia. and as prime minister edward hagar is upping the ante on efforts. >> i think it's a top number
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one issue? >> at this moment, it's definitely in the top three. >> also concerning, yet higher gas prices, and putin potentially expanding his war. >> president zelenskyy was just saying that it's not the first time. this could be two years longer of a war. what would that mean for still vacuum? >> it influences -- it's important for us to have a stable and prosperous neighbor. another reason to help, and that we do it in the first place because the people are dying there. we invest in this moment. >> then, there are the calls for more military aid. in addition to the president sitting moves, the prime minister has already done. >> we provided a system. we helped in the amount of 150 million euros with equipment. >> can you give too much? >> no, i don't think so. it is so cynical. if you value life. if you value your freedom and
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human rights, human dignity. they will never say that. >> a country of just over 5 million people has resettled one half 1 million refugees in their own neighborhoods. >> we never thought that europe is capable of accepting so many people in such a short time. 27 governments. amazing. nobody ever thought -- you would ask ten, five years ago, it would say would? united european union? never. and here it is. >> the war, 33 years ago when hegar came of age. as a teenager, he saw the socialist government fall apart. >> i have a very fresh memory of the time there were big gatherings at the main plaza. yeah, i remember how we were going there ringing with the keys, hoping for a much better future. we saw the images of slovakia. what you see new crane, in kyiv,
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and we went to bucha. you see totally destroyed apartment buildings. groceries. this is such a brutal war. >> if ukraine fails, slovakia is next. >> you have said that slovakia and other countries of nato cannot compromise. should not compromise more. >> what do you mean? >> with values. we are democratic country and we are part of the democratic world, and we have to really revisit our approach to our values. a lot of mayor zelenskyy had a choice to leave to exile, but they decided no, we stay, and we fight for our freedoms. we fight for our values. i asked myself, which with a do -- what would i do if i would be in his shoes? but i wish i would decide the same as him. >> while the opposition in slovakia questions hegar's refugee sense, they say ukraine has not helped slovakia in the past, so why help them know?
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in an analogy to understand how much like he has done here, imagine the united states taking in 35 million refugees into its borders? that is similar to what hegar and his government are doing to help. one recent note in the news, is that talking about being neighborly, the prime minister of the czech republicans saying they will now provide air protection for slovakia. it may mean then that slovakia can release their mid 20 nines which ukrainians have been begging for. >> richard louis, thank you for bringing us that update. coming up, next, the biden administration most to limit family separations at the border. one of the biggest sins of the trump era. do these new guidelines go far enough? in the next hour, republican leaders reveal what is actually motivating them to cut off access to reproductive care. it's not morality. it's misogyny. e. e. it's not it shows.
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action to stop the cruel practice of separating migrant children from their families. -- take additional steps to ensure families are not unnecessarily torn apart. trying to prevent the harm done by the trump administration, zero tolerance results in more than 5000 families being separated. immigration advocates saying hundreds of those families still have nothing identified are reunited. the trump immigration policy influence still in plan other ways. -- the trump administration's plan -- a federal appeals court and louisiana with a case on the legality of the program leading that chris -- my next guest is raphael augustine. he knows that feeling of uncertainty too well, growing up undocumented in the united
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states. something he did not know until he wasn't high school. he gets into his immigration story, funny and incisive more. he joins me now. i'm so glad you're able to be with us. talk to us about the day you learned you were undocumented. what was that talk like? >> it was hard for me, because i grew up in oblivious, very happy, all american kid. i grew up watching friends and saved by the bell, so when my parents tell me that i am not documented, i don't even know how to deal with that, because there's no episode of saved by the bell where zac gets deported. this was like my all american life came crashing down on me. >> i love that you bring a pop culture. it really becomes a line for your life. those who do not know rafael, -- jane the virgin.
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in the season for funnily, james becomes a citizen after years of worrying about being deported herself. i want you to talk to me about taking that life experience and choosing to put it not just into this memoir, but also into works of fiction, sitcoms that other people could watch and see themselves in. >> that goes to, it's a testament to our brilliant show. she really wanted to tell an authentic story about becoming a citizen. we used a lot of my life for that inspiration. everything that she went through. again, in hollywood, there's a thing called symbolic annihilation. that is one communities from marginalized communities or any others who don't see themselves on screen, what happens? to me, as a young immigrant boy, the best thing that happens is me not seeing myself as part of
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this country, being part of the fabric of this nation, but would happens? we get excluded and have people like the mass shooter of el paso who goes after innocent americans, because he sees them as illegal or sees them as invaders. that is why the importance of adding our stories into mass media, film, tv and theater. >> this is something that is so exquisite about you, you managed to do it with levity. we will come back to that in a minute, but there's something else right about. in a way that i had never heard articulated in the book. you explain both your parents, you were in the medical field in ecuador before you came into the u.s.. you're right it's heartbreaking to think that they were never able to become doctors in the united states. because the greatest lesson my parents ever learned in this country was that the american dream is not for you, but for your children. tell me more. >> you're gonna make me cry
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just hearing that. nobody left this country, that i have ever met, more than my mom and dad. i will go as far as to point out that they always paid their taxes. they filed their federal and state taxes. they were always happiest when we got our tax refund check in the mail. the american revolution was founded on the idea that there is no taxation without representation. that is what is happening to close to 12 million undocumented americans in this country. those stories are never heard. all we see in our news are the people who are jumping borders and quote, unquote, taking our jobs. what about the good hearted americans that make our economy stronger and make the workforce younger and make our food taste better? that's why i wrote the book. i want to make sure that they were being seen. >> right, and would've those people are actually one and the same? when you moved from into
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california ecuador, you didn't speak english. he described the moment you stopped speaking spanish after you witnessed an immigration raid. what do you remember about that moment and the fear that you saw being communicated from your father to you? >> well, i will point out that my father is a pediatric surgeon who came to this country to work at a car wash. my mother is an anesthesiologist who came to this country to work at a came art. they tried to survive with doing the menial jobs they were allowed to work in the united states. i remember one day, we were in sacramento, california, and we saw the immigration raid at the beach in front of us. i asked my dad in spanish, what is going on? with fear in his eyes, he looked down at me and said don't speak spanish. and in hindsight, he meant don't speak spanish until the immigration rate was over, but i was a child. i was so nervous and scared to see that much fear in my doubts ice. i stopped speaking spanish for
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