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that's all for this edition for "dateline", i'm craig melvin, thank you for watching. welcome to the show! i'm maria. in for my friend, zerlina maxwell. coming up! the sun and at the watch and rights victory in the red state of kansas is compelling democrats around the country to give reproductive freedom a key issue in the elections. and one day after the wnba star and olympic champion, greatly griner, was sentenced to nine years in a piña colada knee in moscow. -- and the release of another
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american, paul whelan at. we'll get to those stories in this hour. but we start with a big breakthrough in democrats efforts to pass a main part of president biden's agenda. prescription drug prices, taxes, and climate change. kirsten sinema of arizona has announced her support for the bill, calling it the inflation redact act. clearing the way possibly this weekend. the democrat agreed on some changes. including dropping a carry over interest rate tax. increase on some of the risk just of the rich. hedge fund, and private company executives. and changes to a 15% on corporate tax obligations. they could make amendments, but this film could be seen as historic changes for everyday americans. change is very popular according to a poll, by cutting prescription prices and refusing the deficit by 300 billion dollars. you heard that right. it would also invest in nearly
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370 billion dollars to address climate change. and also, it would be interesting to think about it from a political perspective. now that we have extreme months from the midterm elections, climate action appears younger voters. cutting prices is for older voters, and a deficit reduction? is for independence. joining us now, congresswomen of texas. tell us how important it is for them to pass a bill this weekend? >> this is a huge step forward, that inflation reduction act. lower inflation. lower the cost of prescription drugs, finally allowing medicare to negotiate the price of it prescription drugs. lower tax loopholes, and commitments to climate change. these are all priorities for democrats, and for all americans. and it's important that we're able to deliver this right now. that many of us have been working on for many years. >> i have to say that this is also a very huge win for the
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planet. i think this is something that we have been wanting as a collective, global. and having to make sure that the united states is once again leading. it could be such a game-changer, now that we're talking about climate change and making sure we're in the middle. and in the midst of a climate changes. so this is a huge deal. i want to ask you though, for a long time folks are saying that the democrats were dead in the water. they wouldn't do anything for the midterms. i want to give you a quote, basically it said from one of these reporters. it basically said that it truly seems, the dems truly seemed dead in the water for policy for midterms. -- and big zest. talk to me about that. is it, our is he right? our the times changing in favor of the democrats now were going into the midterms? >> certainly you see on the ground, a lot of enthusiasm from democratic voters. and you see a lot of concern across the board. in texas, across the country. some of the extreme policies,
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positions that have been proposed by those on the other side of the aisle. so i think you're seeing a lot of momentum. and i think it's really important to remember that the bills that we are passing now, are things that we have been working on for a long time and putting people over politics. making sure that we have common sense, gun safety legislation to keep our community safe. that we have smart policy when it comes to climate change. and that's certainly something that my constituents here, in the energy capital of the world, carry a lot about. reducing admissions. these are things we can do together. and on so many of the things, when we think about health care. extending the aca subsidies is absolutely vital to my constituents here. i was just meeting with a constituent yesterday, talking about the challenges that she face. getting insurance. so continuing these aca substitutes is gonna be absolutely critical. in so many things that we are doing. that's really about putting up double first, putting the people through the process. and what we're seeing is people are responding to that. >> i can't imagine anybody being a little grim about what is happening over on capitol
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hill then grab it. he is on the ballot this year, and everything that you just listed is contrary of what he's been signing. and passing into law in texas. what do you say that? >> i think governor abbott has really been out of step with that desires and interests and priorities of many texans. what we see here in the state that has our own electric grid, is that we are this summer getting warnings of blackouts, and requests to conserve our energy after the deadly freeze last february. where texans froze to death. throws it up in their homes, and then the beds. people want to see our state governments go back to the fundamentals of keeping us safe. of making sure that we are safe in our homes, and that we have allowable power generation. and also keeping as a from gun violence. of course. after the tragic shooting in uvalde. people are's focus here on comments illusions. and of course, here in texas,
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we have been in a health care crisis. last september with the passing of sb8. the abortion ban here in texas. and now, after the dobbs decision, it's an absolute crisis where women don't have access to their fundamental, reproductive health care. and to the rights. and that is something that is so out of step without the majority of texans want. that it is important to protect since the standup, and make clear what they care about. and who they support. and vote for those people who are going to move our state in the right direction. >> so let's turn to hear abortion bill that you sponsored. to protect people and the right to travel out of the state for abortion care. it's passed in the house, but unlikely to pass in the senate. what's your biggest concern about how that's gonna impact abortion in texas and in other states? >> this is a huge concern. and i introduced the bill because it is happening here on the ground in texas. as i said, since last september. people have been leaving the
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state to obtain abortion k in other states where it remains illegal. now in texans, the closest aides are new mexico and kansas. many hours away. but what is truly frightening, not everyone can afford to travel, not everyone can do all the things required to travel. now we have lawmakers here who are threatening people to travel out of state. and threatening the people who are helping them. there is a group here in texas, a group of lawmakers, who publicize a letter that they sent to at least one law firm here in texas. threatening the firm, and each of the partners. with felony criminal prosecution and disbarment. because of their policy to reimburse employees who are traveling out of state for health care. so this is a real crisis on the ground, and the house did pass the smell. i think it's very important and it's reflected in the presidents order this week. and that's also really important to know we. can take steps in any way that we can to protect this fundamental constitutional
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right to travel between the state. so we're doing it in congress. i am hopeful. it should pass the senate. but also, we're seeing that the president is taken important steps to protect that right as well. >> well this is completely wild to me that the government was suing private employers. because they were allowing their individual employees to go find access to health care. that happened to be abortion care. so tell me very shortly, we have less than 30 seconds. how big of an issue is this in texas? and is greg abbott going to pay a price for what he signed and created in texas abortion ban? >> this is a huge issue in texas. it's an issue for women across the state. and it's an issue for all texans. and the governor is really out of step here. a poll in june said that only 15% of people in texas for tacked his position on the total ban on abortion. and it's really important for all of us in texas to know what is being done to stricter rights. the threats that we face from these extreme policies.
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and i do think that texans will make their voices heard at the ballot box in november. >> well i have to say that texas is the holy grail for both republicans, and the democrats. it has over 48 electoral seats and it is a prize if that were to go on the democratic side. representative lindy fetcher, thank you for joining me. coming up, the biden administration is closing out a week with several desperately needed successes. for them, and for the country. from a surprisingly strong jobs report, to the big win in kansas to maintain abortion rights. the midterm elections are right around the corner. so while these winds resonate with voters at the polls in november? we will be right back. be right back. thanks, dad. that's right, robert. and it's never too early to learn you could save with america's number one motorcycle insurer. that's right, jamie. but it's not just about savings. it's about the friends we make along the way. you said it, flo. and don't forget to floss before you brush. your gums will thank you.
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biden administration and democratic agenda, friday delivered another biggie, this time in the form of the july drops report. more than half 1 million new jobs were added. that is double the protections. the unemployment rate dug down to 3.5%, it marks the fourth straight month of huge gains for american workers. a trend democrats no doubt hope to capitalize in november. it is also touting this essex full u.s. drone strike in kabul that took out al-qaeda's leader. the first major strike inside afghanistan since the u.s. military withdraw their last august. and then there was tuesday,
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night monumental victory in kansas. i think that to political strategies on both sides of the aisle that abortion is a motivating issue for voters. democrats clearly heard the message, here are two new ads in michigan and arizona, take a listen. >> if you take two dirt dixon at her word when it comes to abortion, she told us exactly who she is. >> are you for the exemptions for rape or incest? i would about health of the mother? no exceptions. >> blake masters has been his dangerous masters easy to understand. >> i think we should go further, no state can permit abortion. you make it illegal and you punish the doctors. >> played masters too dangerous for arizona. >> their words are so dark kony in. joining me now is adrian alkeran, -- for the biden harris campaign. i am also joined by 19-year-old olivia julianna, i stratus was
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gen z for change was targeted by a florida congressman. matt gates. she turned that controversy into 2 million dollar windfall for donations on abortion advocacy. adrian, thank you so much for joining. i want to talk to you a little bit about what we saw in kansas. we saw more than 900,000 voters cast a ballot against the major that was on there in kansas. was striking to me is that the whole reason these individuals were on the republican side, this other the put this on the ballot was because it's not expect high turnout. most people do not turn out during primaries. what do you say to this? >> first of all, maria and teresa thanks for having me. such an honor to be on the same panel as olivia. huge rounds, congratulations to all the amazing work we have done olivia. such an inspector so many of us. and, look this is what's so funny about this she now ploy by the republicans. if not they could pull a fast, one thought they could put this on the ballot when you know democratic turnout as you
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mention, is not super high. there were not a lot of heavily contested democratic primaries in kansas. and no voter said no thank, you we are taking our power back. we are going to show the united states of america where we stand on this. and i think we learned in kansas also, and by the way i love that the republicans are saying is, oh it's a purple state. kansas is not really a solid red state. i mean it may not be a solid red like some other states out there but this was still a prevailing win and we have republicans who supported and voted no which of course meant that you support reproductive rights. we have independents in kansas who supported this. we also have marie and teresa, some of these very rural red areas, that is not voted for a democrat and god knows how long. they overwhelmingly supported making reproductive rights a main state in kansas. that was significant and again republicans can try to spin this all that they want.
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i know there's a lot of private conversations right now going on at cpac with a lot of people saying oh man, we are in some deep trouble going into the midterms if we don't figure out how to address this. >> dave trouble, at the fact that they're trying to say that kansas is, was a purple state. when in fact it went 14% for donald trump. that is bogus and they know it. i want to bring you into the conversation because one of the things that we saw was a huge spike and voter registration in kansas and across the country after the decision. for the majority of the session who were voting where young people. you live in the state of texas, how big of a deal is this in texas and driving in voters because we know with my other hat, at the biggest problem is that we cannot get enough young people to register but there are millions of them that are sitting on the sidelines. will this motivate them? >> absolutely, as so motivate them, we have seen over the
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last couple election cycles that youth voter turnout how steadily been increasing. i think this, year we will see that ship way up. young people turned, out 2020 in donald trump at office and that was before roe v. wade was overturned. we are seeing a spike in these voter registrations because abortion is an issue that regardless of more political affiliation regardless of your age, you care about. it's about your basic freedoms and their basic rights to privacy. i have been in the news a lot recently were abortion advocacy. so what i got in public, as he lot of people come up and talk to me about that. i haven't seen people as young as 13 and as old as 93, it's an intergenerational fight that is happening across the country right now. it is happening across texas, abortion became a constitutional right out of the state of texas. i think that texas along with other states will send the message this november that abortion is something that the american people support, the right to choose. >> and olivia, i want to drag
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on that because we know oftentimes as a young latino yourself, people say latinos, they breakaway and they do not believe in abortion access. we know though that is close to 60% of latinos in texas believe in abortion access. that is a cross generational, across generational lines. talk a little about this tropes that are put into the community when we actually can see perhaps a pathway speaking directly to health care as abortion actually is. >> i think a really big part of this is that republicans and especially republicans in the national government have started these targeted misinformation campaigns amongst the lawton community. i've seen reports about potential and purposeful misinformation about abortion access being spread in spanish on absolute was up in facebook. where they are sending out these lies about later my boy shuns being regular or abortion being used as birth control. i think it's all a part of time to paint this picture of the latin american community and
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trying to demoralize young latino people. i don't think it's something the republicans counted on being a winning issue for young people in the latino community. but i know as a latino myself, and taxes it's an issue, though a lot of people in that community do care about and will register to vote and go vote because of. >> adrian, let's go back to texas, there seems to be a lot going on there. in november, as november approaches, there is also the january 6th hearings to consider. trump is not on the ballot, of course but he seems to be silently driving the gop bus. dick cheney took his neck out and waited and listen to this ad by dick cheney. >> in our nation's 246 year history, there is never been an individual who is a greater threat to the republic than donald trump. he tried to steal the last election using lies and violence to keep himself in power after the voters rejected him. he is a coward, a real man wouldn't lie to his supporters. he lost his election and he lost big.
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i know, it he knows it and deep down, i think most republicans know it. >> adrian, a real man would not lie to his supporters. how fierce is that from all pinot, dick cheney. speak to that. will that sway any republicans? >> well, here's what i like so much about that ad is that he basically goes out and says i know a lot of you may be trump supporters on the outside. but i know deep down that you know this is wrong. and dick cheney was the hero for so long among so many conservative republicans. so that he is making appeal, especially to those older republicans who you know remember dick cheney and thought he was our american hero. felt like it was really the president when george bush's administration. and he could talk to them so i think it's an interesting ad, i think it speaks volumes and looks, maria teresa we have been doing this for a long time. you know i've been in the trenches of the democratic party for a long time. i would like to actually get
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back to a point where we are having a true debate over conservative versus progressive values. democrats versus republicans, that would be a lovely place to be in. and i think with dick cheney is trying to say is look. i'm still a republican you know, all the way but i would like to get back to a point where we are not focusing on some of these high high states cultural issues. and focusing more on getting back to the principles of the parties back in the day. >> adrian, i think you are actually right. what trump represents at the top receipt and with the chinese trying to say let's get back into that democracy game, where we can be in the same box and play the same rules and believe in the institutions and fight alongside policy issues. so adrienne, and julie and thank you so much for joining me. coming, up a russians court nine year sentence for a wnba star player britney griner on drug charges. highlights the trouble relationship between russia and the united states.
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swap. his comment comes one day after griner was sentenced to get this, nine years for carrying less than a gram of cannabis oil through the moscow airport. last, night her teammates from the phoenix mercury and competitors from the connecticut soundtrack to keep the focus on griner's release. pausing for 42 seconds of silence in her honor. the proposed prisoner swap can reportedly include the release of american detainees, paul whelan who was convicted on espionage charges in russia four years ago. joining me now is john hearst, the director of the atlantic console center. he served as u.s. ambassador to ukraine from 2003 to 2006. spent 31 years in the state department. thank you so much for joining the ambassador. one of the things i find striking was that love prophesy negotiations that happen outside of the public eye. but we know that russia wants us to return a convicted arms dealer, victor boot back into. that is a swap that they want
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to do. do you think that's asymmetrical? >> certainly asymmetrical. this reflects the fact that democracy and we care about our systems. i should say especially when they're in prison unjustly overseas. the administration is trying to get not just brittney griner out but paul will end. and that will make it a little bit less asymmetrical, there are still asymmetry in connection. >> just for the folks tuning in, the person that they want to swap britney griner and will end with is somebody that was convicted of arms dealings. and is considered pretty notorious and somewhat of a terrorist himself. when we talk about a cemetery, it seems as if it's very much more the russians want to prompt up a bad guy for some of that basically did a very innocent mistake. i want to play something that they someone msnbc today about the potential swap. britney griner is trying to say they should not be political but take a listen. >> these are cases where, the
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russian federation are using these individuals for political reasons to push against us largely, i would argue because of the support we are providing to the people of ukraine. >> is that why they're giving her such a severe sentence? is russia and putin trying to tell the americans that, they will hold a young woman hostage based on what happened over in ukraine? >> i don't relent that was one secondary factor for the kremlin. ultimately putin making this decision. i don't think it's the main thing. they value their agents and victor boot is an agent of the kremlin. and so they like to have a hostages in order to get their agents back at a relatively low cost. and again, we are democracy, and matter-of-fact they are upping the ante. they're trying to bring into this russian agent who murdered a chechen dissidents and berlin a few years ago.
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to get him thrown into the deal too. >> so, is there a inherent risk right now and negotiating these types of prisoner swaps? >> i think it's unfortunate that we are prepared to do this. but i understand why, it was pressed on the administration coming from britney griner's family and friends. and also paul whelan has been a casualty in this situation. so i understand why they are doing, it i suspect the criminal ultimately agree because this is very much in their interest. it will bring two americans home, if the deal succeeds and that is what you want. >> i guess something that should no longer be shocking to all of us is that the former president trump, he has shown zero sympathy towards griner. zero interest in bringing her home. on a radio show, he said quote, she knew you don't go they're loaded up with drugs. which is completely false, that was not the case. can you speak to that? what does that say about our
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own you know former president being so adamantly obliged with putin? >> i don't know if he was aligned with putin on this, i agree that i don't favor, i oppose what he said. again, the main thing i think is true that americans need to be careful if they travel to overall more china or to russia, these are regimes that are authoritarian and they will use americans as pond. that is something we should keep in mind but we never told them not to go. we have to tell them not to go because it's a free country and we will keep her free citizens. >> so, what do you expect to happen though with these negotiations? >> i think direction to let the biden administration twist in the win for a week or two more, then make the deal. , again it is in their interest to get victor bhutan. sadly to say, of course we want to welcome both miss griner and mr. will end home. >> i do think the people that
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monkeypox has been declared a public health emergency. health and human secretary, have yet made the announcement on thursday. that announcement comes as cases continue to rise across the u.s.. a period every state except montana in wyoming. it also comes weeks after the world health organization declared monkeypox a global health emergency. joining me now is doctor -- she is the ceo of advancing health equity and as a msnbc medical contributor thank you so much. for joining me, i want to ask you, it's like the biden administration 13 days to clear covid a public health emergency. and i took them 70 days to declare monkeypox one. why such a delay? >> thank you so much for having me and i think that such a critical question and i think we probably will not know the answer but we know that we are already behind. the fact is that monkeypox his own signs that it is another pandemic and we are seeing outbreaks in over 80 countries and so by definition that is a
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the primary mode of transmissions. so prolongs get the skin contact, mostly during sexual activity and as we are seeing. maybe 8% of the cases are among men, who have sex with men. it's as if this virus has found it a niche within this community. it was also very important to emphasize that anybody can get monkeypox. and anyone is potentially at risk. so kissing are cuddling or hugging somebody who's infected, possible transmission, touching contaminated materials. like towels is also a possible but less likely transmission. as well as contact with respiratory secretions right now for the general public what is most important is to know how monkeypox is transmitted. also to know the signs and symptoms of monkeypox so that if you develop symptoms, you can isolate yourself and protect others. >> one of those symptoms? >> the symptoms are actually symptoms that you often find
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with viruses. fever, headache, fatigue, sometimes swollen lymph nodes and we are also seeing garage and so the rash unfortunately can look like other rashes that we have seen. monkeypox rash can look like it's a particular fluid filter rash. it can also look like chicken pox for example. or people may confuse it for measles are scabies, we need to make sure that we get that messaging and those images out of the general public. so they know what to look out for an order to protect each other. >> how do we mitigate against the virus than? if it looks like so many other potential, you mentioned measles on a few others. how do we mitigate it? >> i think what's most important and i think there is been some awkwardness in terms of the public health messaging because of what we have seen are the majority of people are in the community of men who have sex with men. we need to really engage with community groups and leaders and those communities to talk about how do we explain to people what they need to do to
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decrease transmission's. and so some recommendations have been made to the man who have sex with my community to reduce the number of sexual partners for the time being. that could help as well. and now you know the sadness i've you know your partners and now with the rash looks like in general. but also we need to know that there are vaccines being targeted or vaccines and treatments being targeted to the people who need it most and so i think while we don't want to stigmatize communities we need to be very transparent about who is being most affected right now. and by engaging with community groups and community leaders and the gay community and the lgbtq community. we will be able to really provide nuance messaging around monkeypox. so that people who need it right now and that is where the outbreak is happening. they are getting the resources that they need. >> a lot of the conversation around monkeypox in the delay in it, reminded me so much about how the world reacted with aids i know is very much concentrated in the gay population.
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seems like a four able to know that many of the transmissions are in that community, to get them what they need so that they can also stop the distribution of it to the other communities. where are we in this effort when it comes to wrapping up vaccines. i think that's what people want to know i think right now it is a vulnerable community and last but it does not stay there. >> all right and so it is estimated that 1.7 million people are at risk and it's a part of that community. and we only have about 600,000 doses of the vaccine. see we are behind and that vaccine can be given as free exposure and we can be given when someone is even exposed and protects them. they are exposed from developing monkeypox. it is really crucial that the biden administration focuses on wrapping up that vaccination, specifically in a can prevent millions of cases in the future. >> prevention, we need to focus,
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dr. uche blackstock, thank you for your clarity and speaking how yes it is very normal normal community among lgbtq. not should be a number one on why we need to contain, it thank you very much. coming, up department of justice has charged for kentucky police officers and the shooting death of breonna taylor. it's a case that sparked national attention, now taylor's family still reacting to the charges, we will be right back. ill be right back hike. we eat healthy. we exercise. i noticed i wasn't as sharp as i used to be. my wife introduced me to prevagen and so i said "yeah, i'll try it out." i noticed that i felt sharper, i felt like i was able to respond to things quicker. and i thought, yeah, it works for me. prevagen. healthier brain. better life. tide pods ultra oxi one ups the cleaning power of liquid. can it one up whatever they're doing? for sure. seriously?
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announced four police officers at louisville kentucky, overlay irate and march of 2020 that killed breonna taylor. a 26-year-old emergency medical technician to get her home. her killing, along with george floyd's murder, that same year touch of months of protests across the u.s. and around the world against police brutality. a federal charges against two current and former officers comes after a graduate led by kentucky's republican attorney general. daniel cameron indicted only one officer in connection to the raid. fred hack and said, he was later tried and acquitted by a jury. but now hawkinson is charged under the federal indictment with the private taylor or boyfriend and three neighbors of the right by blindly firing ten bullets through a window and sliding glass doors. according to the new york times. and three other officers are charged with knowingly including false information in an affidavit.
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not what you suggest to find the raid. attorney general merrick garland said this about their alleged responsibility for taylor's killing. >> we, alleged defendants through their actions and falsifying the affidavit could create a dangerous situation. and we allege the unlawful access they resulted in missed a loose death. >> taylor's mother said she was waiting a long time for officers to be held accountable for her daughter's death. >> oh they do, it still hurts. i have waited 874 days for today. >> 874 days, sometimes as the saying goes, justice delayed is justice denied. but sometimes justice delayed is still justice. coming up, a big celebration in the metaverse for one of the victims of the parkland shooting, -- would've turned 22 this week.
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every morning when i wake up, i look at his bed in pure agony. >> it consumes my every,
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thought my every second of every day. i suppressed my reality the survive. >> i gotta watch my friends, my neighbors, colleagues spend diamond join their daughters, and during all of the normal milestones taking in the joys and i can only watch videos and go to the cemetery to see my daughter. >> those parents were rightfully distraught and angry. those are some of the devastating brands that we saw the victims of the 2018 school shooting at marjory stone at douglas high school in parkland, florida. they were speaking in front of a jury this week for the sentencing fate of the shooter nikolas cruz. who pleaded guilty to murder and faces either the death penalty or life in prison without the possibility of parole. on thursday, jurors were brought to toward the school to see the classroom of the shooting happened. the schools interior has been left intact since the shooting. joining me now is -- you lost the son walking in the shooting. manuel, thank you so much for
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joining me today. watching that footage and being in that room, i cannot imagine. i know that your wife was president in testifying. can you speak a little bit to that? >> yes, i could give you my thoughts and relation to that. i have not been in the room, i decided not to be there. for personal reasons, we all react in different ways and my wife patricia and my daughter andrea they were there the whole time. and we decided that nothing, not even this is going to stop us from doing what we do every single day. we cannot wait the closest chapter in our lives, hopefully it will be soon. >> meanwhile, i have to tell you the courage that you have to fight for your son and to keep his memory alive. i have to say that you know sometimes, most people talk about moments of silence but this is i think where tradition
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and joy that we need to find in grievance really matters. the fact that you celebrated walking his 22nd birthday with a party. you said quote, we are not having that moment of silence, you're having a party so tell me about that. i think in some ways that is where culture really helps as gil. i am thinking on my own latino culture that that is how i would want somebody to remember me, speak to that. >> absolutely, besides all of that it is totally true. it's the fact that we are working parents. so we are not the victims here okay, let's be very clear. the victim is our son. being able to celebrate his life, during any of these moments because i have tools to remind everybody that is how that we are going through that a hard moment, we always go through hard moments through lost mcqueen. being able to celebrate his life, is something that we can do and i am happy that we can
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do that. we are doing it in a very different way this year. we are bringing walk queen into -- people from all around the planet. it's not about how we feel, it's about how walking felt. now it's about as being parents in doing the right thing. >> i have to share with, u.s. pentagon with families of uvalde victims. what i have found is that the inner strength of building communities but more importantly, as importantly is trying to prevent it from happening again. you have taken up that mantle. tell me what this congress need to do? i think you've been very vocal about what has happened now legislative front is simply not enough. what this congress need to do to make sure that we are honoring the tragedy of walking? >> well, congress needs to know that the american is there actually in charge of making these things change. our kids have the final power, we all know that.
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they know, it i know, it you know it and it's a matter of time. i don't see the intention or the bravery from the -- to make decisions we all know should be made. but the kids are not going to stay with that and just leave the future that is not the one they are looking for. the same generation and there's concern about climate change and the same generation who is concerned about rights. the same generation that is concerned about gun violence. they will make sure that things are different, it's a matter of waiting on congress. we just need to wait for how things will happen. >> i think you are alluding to the fact that the young people will make sure that these individuals who don't have the courage, that there will be political consequences. before we wrap up, i want to ask about the trial that has been going on in texas with the radio host alex jones. as you know or may have heard, the jury has decided he must pay at least four point $1
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million to the family have a six-year-old child that was killed in the sandy hook elementary shooting. for the suffering key and in the website and his broadcast has caused them by spreading those terrible lies about the 2012 massacre. he also admitted he now believes that the shooting was real after years of spreading this information. can you tell me your reaction to this? is this justice? >> no because -- i think this guy should pay way more than that. i think this guy should go to jail and he lied, he made money out of his lies. he made a lot of parents suffer. now this falls on the president and i like that. because now moving on, -- mr. jones will think twice before getting out there and calling it fake death of our kids. this is totally misinformation.
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and the fact that he made money out of it is something that we should not accept. i'm glad it's happening and i hope that it gets more and more settlements to do and to be responsible for. >> meanwhile my hope is that exile only a turn for him but for others who think they could actually pedal on the suffering of others. manuel thank you so much for joining us and thank you so much for standing in talking about your son in his memory so that other families can learn. my appreciation to you. not as a for, me i am maria. be sure to follow us on facebook, twitter, tiktok and new to. you can stream our show, and all of the other favorite msnbc host anytime that you want to that mid nbc hub. find this hub through brows on peacock and stream it all whenever you want and wherever you want. thank you for joining me. thank you for joining me
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this is the katie phang show live from msnbc world headquarters in new york city. we have lots of news to cover a lot of questions to answer. a busy day on capitol hill as the united states senate gets ready to vote on the inflation reduction act. potentially delivering a big win for president biden's domestic agenda. we are live in d.c.. and the far-right conspiracy theorists, alex jones ordered to pay up more than $45 million over his sandy hook lies. what is punishment means for the disinformation epidemic. glenn kirschner is here. plus abortion rights


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