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tv   Hallie Jackson Reports  MSNBC  September 20, 2022 12:00pm-1:00pm PDT

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new developments as we come on the air in the investigation into former president trump with lawyers for the department of justice and the former president ending their first face-to-face meeting with the special master, that independent third party, in just the last couple of minutes. on the left, you're looking at a live shot of the courthouse including some members of the nbc team. our team is standing by with what we know just happened. they're hoping to keep the
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justice department from getting back to work on more than 100 classified documents. also, in puerto rico, huge search operations happening to try to find trapped survivors after hurricane fiona. things may get worse before they get better. we've got a team on the ground there with the latest. plus, what went wrong in the agency's response to the baby formula shortage? coming up. a lot of new details for you. i'm hallie jackson with vaughn hilliard, tom winter, and msnbc legal analyst, barbara mcquaid. vaughn, i know this has just wrapped up. what went down? >> reporter: right. both sides just exited the course house seconds before we
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came to air. as well as the trio of trump attorneys provided no comment but this hearing lasted about 35 minutes rather speedy hearing in which really the central component of the argument at hand. i was talking the andrew weissman as we exited the course house, about whether trump's teams would have access to the documents marked as classified that still exist at mar-a-lago and were seized by the department of justice by the fbi on august 8th. the question here is whether trump's attorneys would get their eyes on the documents. they argued they not only needed to see what they were working with, what potentially could be used against their clients, the former president trump being that individual, but then also the extent to which those individuals,those documents not only was it a necessity of knowing, but also one of the attorneys here making the case
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that he has top secret clearance from a previous case that he had worked on in virginia. that lawyer being trusty. at the same time, judge dearie seemed to push back, making the case it is his prerogative. in his own words, i will determine if you need to know and essentially you will be provided those documents, which would be an indicator that it's not a strong likelihood that trump's team will be able to access all of those documents that they are arguing they should be in position of and at the least bit, have an understanding of what those documents consisted of. >> there was also, so vaughn, thank you very much. i know you have other reporting to do. i'll let you go. tom, there had been some discussion and i'm looking sort of through what we have seen from other reporters in the courtroom as well, that the declassification has laid out had come up.
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we talked about this here. even just this afternoon. the idea that while the former president and his allies have said publicly he declassified some of this material we're talking about, his attorneys have not said it where it counts. in a court or in court filings. they're refusing to say that. and the judge seemed to have questions about that today. >> i think one of the they thinks based on the various reports we've seen from the eastern district is that the judge brought up and said look, it's not for me to determine whether or not these documents are classified. that's held in the executive branch. i'm in the judicial branch. so when i look at this, i see the government has on these documents, it says it's top secret. it says it's top secret with all sorts of markings which indicate it's some of the highest level that is the u.s. has as far as classification. who am i to dispute that.
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i'm just going to go with it and say it's a classified document because i'm not in a position to argue against it. that seems to be the genesis and i'm waiting on a transcript. as i mentioned, we weren't able to hear the hearing because of some audio difficulties, but it appears to be that's the core of the argument presented. we anticipate getting a scheduling order today that will provide more as far as how things will proceed. of course this will be controlled by the 11th court of appeals which needs to determine whether the special master's review of this, importantly, whether federal prosecutors will continue to look at the documents to determine if there's been a threat to national security. the appeals come in and big foot this whole process. still waiting on that to be
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figured out. still waiting on the scheduling order from the special master, but it appears that the trend, at least based on what we know from the proceedings so far, this may be further clarified in transcripts that the judge is going to go forward with whatever the government says is classified because that's held outside of the judicial branch. >> you sort of answered the question, what is next, the scheduled order that gives us a better sense of timeline because that is a key question here. the judge said perhaps october 7th. it is likely this is going to go beyond the week of thanksgiving or past thanksgiving. >> i think the judge was saying when we look at the documents, i want everybody to go through the documents by that october 7th, but you know, there's going to be things that the trump team might assert a privilege that the government wants to dispute and so there's obviously going to be some back and forth period there. i think in looking at the totality of that, you want to give people time to look at
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that. these are very consequential issues. judge canon has appointed the special master. the special master reports to her. she's the boss should she weigh in here on some of the things that came up in court today. provide further clarification or should trumps attorneys go back to judge canon remains an open question and how that might determine how things go forward. we're getting a little bit lid fided today. still no indication at this point that the justice department isn't going to get what they want. >> tom, can you stand by? barbara, i want to bring you in with your takeaways.
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>> sounds like the hearing went very well for the justice department. they got all the they thinks they would have wanted. one, the judge acknowledged that time is of the essence and indicated a desire to move rapidly. he also said who am i to say what's classified and what's not. that's for the government to decide. that was music to the government's ear that it sounds like the judge is not going to allow the other side to see these classified documents or even review them unless the trump side makes some kind of showing that they're not classified. so i think that was a success. the other thing that came up in this hearing was the judge accused the trump lawyers of games man ship. we have seen this kind of cute game they're playing where trump keeps saying on social media postings that he has declassified these documents, but lawyers have never quite said so in court. they say the president has the power to do that, but have never said so. the judge asked them point-blank, you need to tell us did he or did he not declassify.
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what is your position. they still refused that. today, he went so far as to accuse them of gamesmanship. i think it bodes well for the justice department to come through this well. >> we saw republican attorneys general from 11 states file a brief basically accusing the biden administration for pursuing this for political gamings, if you will. what is the why? what's the goal here for these attorneys general? what is the outcome they want to see happen? >> well, what they're asking for in particular is to make this case go away. i think it is an effort to engage with the court of public opinion of trying to suggest this is a politically motivated case but at the end of the day, the facts are going to speak for themselves. there's either evidence of a crime or not and regardless of the motivation, you can hate somebody, but if they commit a murder, you can still prosecute them for murder. >> appreciate you being with us on a day of developing news.
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thanks. coming up, we're live in georgia where new surveillance video shows what happened inside a county elections office the day its voting systems were allegedly breached. plus, president biden's home state getting ready for the potential arrival of a plane from texas full of migrants. but first, hurricane fiona battering turks and caicos with officials struggling to get power back in puerto rico. we're going to talk with somebody helping in the recovery push, next. somebody helping in the recovery push, next so when you finally taste it, it just confirms... this. is. fantastic. and only at panera. $0 delivery fee for a limited time.
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right now, hurricane fiona battering turks and caicos. the storm has already devastated the dominican republic and puerto rico, leaving millions with no power, no clean water. and we don't know how bad it is in puerto rico. the governor's warning of more rain today, more flooding,
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landslides with crews still trying to get to the people who need rescuing. george is on the ground in puerto rico. bring us up to speed on the latest today. >> more than a million people still without power and we can show you what's going to slow down that effort. there is a downed powerline and power pole in the middle of the street. crews already assessing this one. also this one over here, which is also broken. snapped like a twig by hurricane fiona. that devastation rampant. now we are contending with the heat. so people without generators and power, they have that element to contend with. some still without running water. people have lost homes, businesses, and today, of all days during the anniversary of hurricane maria, instead of talking about how far the island has come in rebuilding, here they are having to assess more
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damage, more recovery. it has been a brutal couple of days for the people of puerto rico. this is going to take months of recovery. sure, the power may come back in a couple of days, but we know based on the damage we've seen, the recovery effort here is going to take months. officials here on the ground, we've seen police guiding people through the streets because there is no power, there are no street lights so traffic now moving pretty erratically through the streets. everyone here is doing their part to stay safe. as far as efforts from the government to get people back online, well, they're counting on that disaster declaration signed by the president so more resources arrive to the island. we know the fema administrator will be arriving to assess the damage and they're bringing additional resources. additional generators, food, and water for the people that have been displaced. this is a catastrophe. the governor saying the power grid shouldn't take as much of a hit as it did during maria, but you can understand why people
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are skeptical because they have been through so much already and we're still not even done with the full event here. we are still getting rain in parts of the island and this is an island that's already seen 25, 30 inches of rain. rain in some areas that actually may have surpassed hurricane maria. so this by all accounts is a disaster and the people of puerto rico are wondering how much more they can take. >> george live for us from puerto rico. thank you so much. i want to bring in now charlotte navarro, senior director of puerto rico operations at the hispanic federation. she is on the ground there in puerto rico helping with the recovery. can you talk about what the last couple of days has been like for you, the need you're seeing? >> sure. so as mentioned earlier, we have over a million households here still without electricity, only 11% of households here in puerto rico actually do have electricity and it's not just electricity, but our access to
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water is shut off. only 34% of households here currently have access to water. so people are dealing with again, with an impact where they can't cook food, can't bathe. in terms of hygiene, but what we are seeing as we have in past disasters is that the community is banding together and particularly community-based organizations are beginning to lift their operations back up so they can be part of that first line of response to the communities where they work and hispanic federation has already begun distributing solar lamps. we've been able to distribute to other 100 community partners. distributed another 19,000 this week. in addition, those organizations are opening up their community kitchens to try to address the need for food and water that communities have. particularly the lowest income
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communities and communities that still have not fully recovered from hurricane maria and are again driving themselves with this setback today. >> i don't have to tell you that it was five years ago today that hurricane maria slammed puerto rico and as you point out, people are still even recovering in some ways from that. what lessons did your group take away from that? i know you were involved in that recovery, too, that could be helpful now here today. >> hispanic federation has been fortunate we've been able to invest over $50 million the last five years in puerto rico's recovery. the most important lesson we learned through it was to work very closely with the local community-based organizations here in puerto rico. we've been able to strengthen that network over the last five years and it was through that that we quickly responded to the earthquakes in 2020 and the pandemic that we're still surviving through today. those community-based organizations have immediate access, know the needs of their communities.
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we've been calling them over the last few days. they've been able to tell us exactly what's needed. we've been able to trust them to identify residents in their communities who are not able to reach shelters. who are not able to reach supermarkets so that those with the most need are able to get that service and you know, they're quick. they're efficient. they're flexible so for us, also working with local non-profits. in addition, something that we learned in maria and replicated in these past disasters and are implementing today, we've been working with the local network of food and water distributors here in puerto rico. right now, fortunately, their warehouses are filled with food and water. it's about getting it to the right communities. so again, through that network, we're buying from those local distributors and getting it delivered directly into the hands of those community organizations for immediate distribution. >> charlotte, thank you so much for talking with us here today,
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for doing the work you're doing there on the ground in puerto rico. keep us updated. thank you. >> thank you. still ahead, the new surveillance video out of georgia showing for the first time what happened inside a county elections office the day its voting systems were breached. plus, what went wrong in the federal response to that crisis over baby formula? the results of that investigation out after the break. ♪ ♪ announcer: type 2 diabetes? discover the power of 3 in the ozempic® tri-zone. in my ozempic® tri-zone, i lowered my a1c, cv risk, and lost some weight. announcer: ozempic® provides powerful a1c reduction. in studies, the majority of people reached an a1c under 7 and maintained it.
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county's pads, which contains sensitive voter information. so you're going, i see that, you have eyeballs, what does it mean. it seems to undercut her sworn testimony that she just popped into the office that day and what were they doing near this info for eight hours? her lawyers are telling "the washington post" that quote, failing to accurately remember the details of events from almost two years ago is not lying and denies she was part of anything improper or illegal. the tech firm we're talking about has denied illegally breaching voter equipment and tells nbc news they were taken direction in their words here, licensed practicing attorneys to preserve and copy election equipment. blaine, tell us more about this video and what impact it may
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have on the ongoing investigation into all this? >> reporter: at first, i think i really want to underscore why this video is significant. as you mentioned, really, this kind of undercuts the testimony she gave as to her where abouts an actions on the day of the security breach about 200 miles south of atlanta. as she said in her testimony, she said she briefly popped into the office, but the video shows her showing people inside, interacting with people inside of that office. in some case, even appearing to take photos. her attorney says it's not realistic for her to remember specific details from a day that happened more than two years ago, but this is under investigation by the gbe. now let's bring this back to fulton county. this is something that we already know fulton county prosecutor willis is very interested in. in the happenings down in coffee county. one because we know lathem is
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one of the 16 alternate or so-called fake electors here in the state of georgia and we know that all 16 of them have been notified that they are targets of the d.a.'s investigation here. that's piece number one. the other piece is we know willis' investigation has expanded to include whether or not there was alleged data breach in coffee county and it's something she tended to ask sydney powell about in the coming days. so making it clear she is going to be very interested in this. interested in anything that comes to light from coffee county. i think it's worth reminding viewers how this is coming to light. remember this is all part of a years long civil lawsuit against georgia officials where plaintiffs say that georgia's election systems and voting machines are easy to break into. easy to hack into and the plaintiffs say that what is coming to light here shows that's the case.
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>> blaine, thank you for that breakdown. this afternoon, we're learning more about what went wrong in the baby formula crisis. it left shelves empty this year. the fda is releasing its findings into how the agency responded. mike memoli has more on that. so hit us with the headlines here. what did this find? what's being done to prevent it again? >> let's explain what was going on here because of course everyone remembers when this was a white hot story we were covering on a daily basis. this issue having to do with an issue of food safety at the michigan plant for abbott. so while the biden administration raced to deal with this problem, they also asked a 30-year veteran of the fda to figure out what happened. so based on interviews that had been taking place over the last few months, the number of recommendations are being made. 15 findings with subsequent
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recommendations. some of the finds are routine issues. one of the biggest head leans in this report has to do what we know was at the root of this. there was a whistleblower complaint. i want to read one of the issues here that was found as part of this investigation that a complaint sent by e-mail and other delivery systems to the agency's leaders was not delivered to the right addresses. so some of the recommendations coming out of this have to do with improving the systems here. one of the other findings was that the fda had a hard time getting investigators to get the access to information they need and took samples they need because of covid. because there were a lot of employees at this factory who were out sick. so there is a number of issues here this report now is raising. there's going to be some after
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action reports as well and we may not be talking about this infant supply issue as much we were, but this is still an issue the administration says is at the top of their agenda and we just saw as they announced this week alone, the 24th fly formula mission. they were trying to get supplies from overseas as they deal with the shortages here in the u.s. so this is an ongoing concern for the administration as well. >> thank you for that. also, the white house today saying it's closely coordinating with officials in delaware where folks there are anticipating the potential arrival of a plane from texas carrying migrants. just in the last hour, we've heard from delaware officials at a news conference. i want to play you a little bit of that. >> primary thing we want to offer is compassionate humanitarian assistance. the folks who may be coming to our state have been through a difficult journey and this will be another leg on that journey so we want to offer them food,
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shelter, transportation, healthcare. >> president biden also asked about the possibility of migrants arriving to his home state today. watch. e today. watch. delaware governor saying he's already getting ready for the possible arrival of these migrants, saying the state will, i'm quoting here, make sure migrants who arrive here have the support they need. right now, gary, it sounds like they're getting ready for the potential for this plane to land carrying migrants from florida as part of this push by ron desantis to in his view, put the pressure on president biden on immigration with what many see as a political stunt. no plane yet. we don't even know that the plane is on the i wa. >> i want to stress this is a potential plane that's arriving and part of the reason we don't know for sure it's arriving is because of where we are right now. we're in georgetown, delaware,
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about 30 miles west. it's a small town, about 7500 people. the airport behind me is a one-runway airport. so we'll see a plane come in and out if one arrives, but we don't know if it's going to happen. i've spoken with folks here at the airport. there's no control tower here. and so they're looking at flight radar and some of the same websites that we are to see if a plane's coming. they're doing this same exact thing to see if planes are arriving. is it's not like the airport has any information we don't. the volunteer rs ready. the governor's office. the department of health and human services and aid organizations from across the region are here and ready to help any needs that migrants that might arrive have. here's what one volunteer had to say. >> it's a question of what's their medical state? do they need medical assistance?
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we don't know how long they've been traveling, how much support they've had, where they were coming from. we don't know who's on the plane. take those first needs first then go from there. >> reporter: so the florida governor's office has declined to confirm they are sending a plane, but these have been -- suggesting that over the past couple of weeks as democrats have been calling it a political stunt but the texas office says they're going to continue sending buses every day to new york, chicago, and washington, d.c. until the biden administration changes its immigration policies. >> gary, live for us from georgetown, delaware. thank you. we're going to get a market check with just a few minutes left. half hour or so. the dow dropping, down 300 points today over concerns of another big rate hike from the fed.
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at right now on wall street, stocks are sliding. the dow down about 250 points. why? think about what's happening here in washington where the fed is meeting as we speak considering yet another interest rate hike to try to fend off this historic inflation. we expect that decision 24 hours from now. you've already seen the fed raise interest raets four times this year, but last month's inflation report suggests there's more work to do because inflation is stubborn. i want to bring in bob pisani. last couple of hikes, three quarters of a percentage point each. when you look at the last several decades, that's a lot. the biggest jumps we've seen in something like 30 years. talk about the expectations for the fed tomorrow and what you're hearing as you're there on wall street. >> you're right. it is an awful lot.
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the problem is inflation is as high as it's been in 40 years. that's why the fed's doing extraordinary things. probably we're going to raise rates another three quarters of a point. short-term interest rate the federal reserve uses as a gauge will probably go to 3%. there are signs inflation is peaking. here's the bad news. peaking is not good enough. it's got to come down. that's what the fed wants and there's no signs it is really coming down so the fed is doing the only thing they can do. they only have one instrument. keep raising interest rates. the problem is this. this is a blunt instrument. it takes months and months to see the effects of highest interest rates and in the past when the fed has done this aggressively, they usually induce a recession. they don't want that to happen. we don't want that to happen, but that's why the market is freaking out a little bit. they're not sure whether we're going to have a downturn by trying to fight inflation. they're really having a hard
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time and if you have to fine tune the economy and they don't have the ability to do that. that's the problem. >> so then look ahead past tomorrow after the fed talks, we're going to see jay powell. going to do a whole news conference. we've been through this before this year. what happens in the days after that? >> look, the market only wants the answer to one question. tell us where the federal reserve is going to stop raising interest rates and at one level. so tomorrow, they're going to probably raise it 75 basis points. short-term rate will go to 3%. where do they stop? at 4%. a lot of people think that's where they're going to go now. a month ago, people were thinking 3.5%. some people think they're not going to stop until it's 4.5%. we don't know the answer and that's why the stock market is in such a funk. the bears are arguing they're going to get even more aggressive because inflation is going to stay higher, longer. it's really a tough time for the
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parkts right now but for long-term investors, in a year from now, people are not going to be as concerned about these matters. just think long-term before you panic. >> i've heard the message that i always hear. just chill if you're a long-term investor. >> that's right. >> thank you. good to see you. as election day gets closer and closer, we are seeing more and more people sign up to vote. specifically women in a handful of states. why? you can probably guess it. abortion rights. the increase in the numbers we've seen with these women registers coming after the supreme court overturned roe versus wade and today, there's a big push to get people to register to vote to mark national voter registration day. you've got kamala harris visiting two hbcus in south carolina. ben and jerry's is partnering with black voters matter to rebrand a limited flavor. passing out free ice cream in atlanta. in wisconsin, you've got so-called vote parade going
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through milwaukee. shaq brewster is in milwaukee. talk about what you're hearing from voters there? >> reporter: this push that you're seeing is something that you see with the combination of corporations, organizations and even some of the campaigns. some of the candidates here in wisconsin talking an this national voter registration day. i've been talking with voters here and the issues that rise to the top when you combine the conversations an and try to pole that common them, you hear abortion and inflation. i want you to listen to a conversation i had with a voter yesterday about how she intertwined those two issues as she tries to decide who to support in november. >> women's rights to choose. that's number one. >> why? >> because it's my body and it's not a political playground. >> my biggest issue is the right to life. so it's not women.
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it is women's issues. it's women's baby's issues. baby's right to life. >> reporter: and in this case, you saw how voters different sides of the spectrum see abortion as something that may be one of the their top issues, but are approaching the issue in a different way but i'll also tell you some of the other conversations i've been having is that it's the cost of living. that's the top thing they're looking at. one thing we saw in our nbc news poll that came out earlier this week is that there's partisan advantages to each issue to the many issues out there. you see republicans with the advantage on issues like economy, immigration. crime. you see democrats having the advantage when voters are looking at things like abortion, healthcare and education. what that results in is as you watch some of the television ads here, it's almost as if each
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campaign, each candidate in each race is campaigning differently. you hear the democratic candidates focus on one set of issues like republican candidates are focused on a completely different set of issues. >> thank you. still ahead, president biden's heading to the u.n. general assembly not long after a key official there warned of colossusal global dysfunction. but first, an nbc news exclusive. yamiche sitting down with a top official. what they're doing about mississippi's water crisis, next. i's water crisis , next severe rheumatoid arthritis or active psoriatic arthritis and... take. it. on. with rinvoq. rinvoq is a once-daily pill that tackles pain, stiffness, swelling. for some, rinvoq significantly reduces ra and psa fatigue. it can stop irreversible joint damage. and rinvoq can leave skin clear or almost clear in psa.
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♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ an update on the water crisis in mississippi. people in jackson have filed a suit against the city accusing them of years of neglect saying that led to the water crisis, which isn't over. yes, the boil water notice has been lifted, but folks there say they still don't trust the water. it comes as nbc news is talking with a couple of top justice department officials and what's happening in jackson. here with that exclusive
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interview, yamiche. >> i sat down at the justice department with kristen clark, the head of the civil rights division and todd kim, who heads up the environment and natural resources division. they say this new office up because environmental justice is a law enforcement issue. just like policing and voting rights, access to healthy communities and a clean atmosphere is fundamentally about civil rights. to that send, i questioned both officials about the water crisis in mississippi. we know that the epa is down there investigating. here's what they told me about the role of the doj. take a listen. the epa is down there investigating what's happening in jackson, mississippi. why is the doj not there yet? >> we can't speak to the status of any activity, but our enforcement strategy, which, again, the attorney general prom low gaited in may, means we will be prioritizing cases where we
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can do the most. >> we as a nation have a duty to stand up fur our nation's most vulnerable. >> meanwhile, these doj officials also told me they are working on investigations into other environmental justice cases, like the failing system in alabama. >> what's so interesting and important to talk about here, yamiche, this isn't just the environment, right? it's -- it's the justice pieces that relate, to policing, to voting rights, too. talk about that piece of the puzzle here. >> well, as you just mentioned, we talked about voting rights and given all the threats to our democracy and to actions by election deniers, kristen clark told me specifically, quote, confronting the rise in hate that we are sadly and tragically seeing in communities across our country is a top priority. she pledged that the doj is doing everything that it possibly can do to ensure that eligible americans have access to the ballot box and policing also came up, because the doj has opened a number of pattern and practice investigations into police departments like the
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minneapolis police department, the louisville police department, the louisiana state police department. kristen clark told me that this is a department that's going to be focused on trying to make sure there is constitutional policing going on and that it's protecting people's civil rights across a number of different topics, hallie. >> as far as what's next, big picture, longer term goals, did you get into that at all? >> well, the biggest thing i wanted to know, how are they going to ensure that what they're doing sticks around? we both covered presidencies, we covered administrations, the last administration under president trump, they were not interested in environmental justice, they were not interested in looking into con essential decrees and really investigating police departments, and kristen clark said that's why this new office is being created. it is something that is going to be there, staffed with resources, they are still saying that it's going to take, of course, awhile for these investigations to go through, and i know i was on the ground in alabama, where there are a number of people that told me they feel trapped. there are people suffering,
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people who have raw sewage going into their home, that are dealing with walking through their yards and having to walk through raw sewage. this is a department that says the long-term going is going to have a comprehensive enforcement strategy and they said to me that those people who are living in these conditions, including the people in jackson, mississippi, who are wondering whether or not they're going to see relief with their water, they are all on their top agendas, top priorities. they are moving with the urgency that they can and trying to have real continuity, even if another administration comes in later, hallie. >> yamiche, great reporting. thank you for bringing it to us. appreciate it. happening right now in new york city, you see that familiar marble wall there, the u.n. general assembly kicking off today for the first time in person since before the pandemic. you've got almost all major leaders from around the world there except for president biden. for now, because he is about to leave the white house any minute to head to new york. he'll be stepping onto the world stage with an address there tomorrow. i want to bring in mike memoli.
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there's so much to be looking here. a lot of geo-political threads to be looking for, ukraine, russia, and beyond. >> yeah, hallie. no surprise what will be the dominant issue around the u.n. this year. of course, the invasion of ukraine by russia, at a time, an important time, right, when we're seeing some significant advances by ukraine, retaking some of the territory that russia had invaded earlier this year. so, this gathering at this time, particularly interesting, as there is the possibility of vladimir putin having to face some difficult decisions. decisions that were really underscored by jake sullivan, the national security adviser, when he spoke earlier today. talking about the fact that russia, in the view of the u.s., is about to move forward with what he called sham referendum, about to move forward with what they call mobilization measures, essentially needing to conscript more soldiers into the russian army to deal with ukraine's successes on the battlefield.
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these are not the actions of a confident nation. we're going to see an address by volodymyr zelenskyy, the ukrainian president. and what sullivan spoke of today, the idea of the u.s. leading the world in dealing with global challenges at a time when sullivan noted, not only is vladimir putin not attending the u.n. meeting, but neither is xi jinping, the president of china. what the president is going to be doing in his speech is underscoring one of the core beliefs of the u.n. that's imbedded in its charter, that countries cannot seize other countries by force, territory by force. that's a message clearly obviously directed at russia involving ukraine, but at china, as well. the tensions around taiwan are very real. sullivan addressing a bit of a stir that president biden caused in that "60 minutes" interview, saying the u.s. would move to defend taiwan if needed and he simply said there was no new policy, he was simply answering
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a hypothetical question. >> mike, live for us as president biden, you see on the left side of your screen, is going to head to new york for what, as mike laid out, a critical day of diplomacy internationally. thank you for watching these two hours of msnbc. you can find us on twitter and, as always, over on nbc news now for show number, well, three. tonight at every night at 5:00 eastern. i'll see you there. for now, "deadline white house" starts right after the break. a k ♪ ♪ it's the all-new subway series menu! 12 irresistible new subs... like #4 supreme meats. smoky capicola, genoa salami and pepperoni! it's the dream team of meats. i've still got my uniform. it's subway's biggest refresh yet.
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hi there, everyone. it's 4:00 in new york. big day of news. the investigation into donald trump's handling of government documents including some of the country's most sensitive national security secrets is moving in important ways on two fronts today. one involves the decision to appoint a special master to review the documents seized in the search of mar-a-lago. the other involves the special master himself. a lot of news on both fronts today. let's start with doj's appeal of the decision temporarily blocking doj from using the documents seized from donald trump's residence. that appeal is now before the 11th circuit court of appeals. donald trump's lawyers in that matter are calling for the court to reject doj's request. their main argument is that doj has yet to move that some of the


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