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that's a lot of shows, that michael has been behind the camera for. michael, you are so good at what you, do you're such a joy to work with every single day. retiring tonight after more than 24 years here with us at emmett's nbc, the grading good michael young. god bless you, my friend, we are really going to miss you. you are everybody's favorite coworker. all right, that's gonna do it for us tonight, alice is gonna be here tomorrow, i'll see you again on monday. now it's time for the last word, with jonathan kaye part, filling in for lawrence tonight. hi rachel, it's great to see, you let me just add to your praise of michael young. i'm so sad to see him go, i'm thrilled that he is retiring and going off to do things he really wants to do, he's a great photographer, i don't know if you know this, but he did a photo shoot with me, and one of his shots was so beautiful, then i use it for my head shot for at least five years. so i'm so glad that you gave him a much deserved shout out.
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>> we all have so many people in this company that we depend on, and work with, and of formed lasting friendships with, michael young is just one of those people where -- this is the sweetest ghana, world any so good at what he does. i can't wish him anything but all the best. >> well good luck to you michael, and thank you very much rachel. there is so much news to get to tonight, five weeks into hours until election day, the justice department opened its case, the january 6th was a seditious conspiracy. the trump lawyers are trying to slow walk the documents stealing case. putin, losing in ukraine, a deadly hurricane, american democracy still under threat, and donald trump is still racist. we will get to all of that internees show. but, america got better today.
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history was made today, in an achievement 233 years in the making. the supreme court of the united states, began its new term with justice kennedy browned jackson on the bench. the first black woman to ever sit on america's highest court. and, if you are in the room today, like neil koch all who will join us in a moment was? you would've witnessed another historic milestone you would've witnessed a supreme court where white men are no longer the majority on the court justice jackson's debut on the court comes almost 55 years to the day after justice there are good marshall was sworn in as americas, first black, justice on what was said to be the most liberal court in [laughs] american history,,. [laughs] justice jackson joins a court that has grown more extreme and one in a crisis of legitimacy, after overturning a woman's right to choose. she joins a court with several consequential cases on the
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docket, including the fate of affirmative action programs, college admissions, and voting rights. but, last friday, hours after she was officially sworn in at the supreme court, all of that was briefly set aside, in celebration at the library of congress to mark her achievement, and justice jackson spoke. >> as i undertake the role of associate justice, there is no doubt that i will have my share of pure bad luck. i will have promoters and i will have detractors. but, with your support, and god's grace,,.
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,,. -- i have a seat at the table now. i have a seat at the table now and i'm ready to work. >> i was in the room for this incredible occasion. justice jackson's motion, her sense of history, her humility, were all palpable. but this part got me the most. >> people from all walks of life approach me with what i can only describe as a profound sense of pride.
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and what feels to me like renewed ownership, i can see it in their eyes. i can hear it in their voices. they stare at me, as if to say, look at what we have done. they say, they say this, this is what we can accomplish if we put our minds to it. they might not use those words, but i get the message. they are calling on the ancestors, harkening back to history, and claiming their stake at last. they are saying to me, in essence, you go girl.
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they are saying, invisible no more. we see you, and we are with you. >> look at what we've done. and then there is this. when the choir came out for a lift every voice and sing, i him written after the civil war, that is still known as the negro national anthem, a whole lot of people were feeling it. ♪ ♪ ♪
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>> joining us now are two of the voices you just heard. doctor patrick landing, founder and director of -- the ministries of music, and one of the groups members veto williams. thank you both very much for being here. miss vita, i will start with you. i know how i felt being there, but how did you feel, lifting your voice as the first black supreme court justice. what does justice jackson mean to you? >> well, i was thinking about the goodness of god, and how much of a blessing it was, and a distinct honor and privilege it was to be afforded the opportunity. i felt so proud and overjoyed, that i was there, and i could feel our ancestors in the room rejoicing, with that. and i felt like shouting. >> i don't know, if my memory is right, but after you all
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saying amazing grace, a lot of you were wiping away tears, it was just so powerful. doctor lundy, what did it mean for you to be part of that history? >> well, as one of the organizers for the ceremony, i was just so elated that we are able to choose music that was so be fitting for this historic occasion. i mean it was electric in the room, i think that all of us felt a sense of pride, i've been a part of this historic occasion, the duke ellington concert choir, washington d.c.'s own where there as you saw earlier, and the music, and this amazonian jazz ensemble. we truly had a celebration of this occasion. >> i turn to my friend robert so next to me, when i saw the ministers coming down the aisles and i said, oh boy, it's about to get serious now. doctor patrick lundy, and miss vito williams, thank you so much for joining us tonight. >> thank you very much. >> justice jackson, in her
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words, sits on the shoulders of women like doctor constance baker motley, who's the first black woman to argue before the supreme court, in the first black woman appointed to the federal bench in 1966, after being appointed by lyndon johnson, to the southern district of new york. justice jackson reflected on that legacy, on friday. >> i looked to what i learned about judge constance baker motley. i never matter, but i knew of her career as a federal judge, and it was, in many ways, my north star. indeed, it was the support in affirmation of the people who were close to me, on the one hand, and on the other, judge motley as modeling from afar, that helped me to see, and know the promise of america. >> joining us now, our daniel how holly, dean of columbia
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university school of law. angel notley, constance baker motley son. he's the chairman marris of the board of human rights watch. thanks so much for being here. mr. motley, what would your mother say about this moment in history? >> there is no doubt she would be thrilled. she believed in progress, and that has enabled her to accomplish many of the things that she did. but now justice jackson, embodies all of the great things of my mother admired, and pioneer. >> dean holly, what will you tell your students about the achievement of justice jackson, and what it means? >> jonathan, it was such an important moment, in the sense that in the legal profession, we want to tell students that there are no barriers to what they can achieve, and what they will do, and until justice jackson was officially sworn in there is still a very or, there never been a black woman on the
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u.s. supreme court, and now that barrier is no longer there, so is truly a story moment, and one in which so many people in our profession and around the world people who aren't lawyers can look to this moment and say the barriers are really coming down in a very significant way. >> thank you both very much for sharing your perspective -- i'm sorry. i'm sorry, i heard something from the control room. thank you both very much for being here this evening, justice jackson offered to bring some indictment on her first day on the bench, take a listen to her inaction at the court. >> isn't the issue what congress would've intended, with respect to adjacency? are you saying that neighboring wetlands can't impact the quality of navigable waters? >> it said for his part, for a 4g is unlikely as to the meeting of waters.
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>> let me try to bring some indictment to it? by asking it this way. >> i want to bring into our conversation, neil catchall, former acting u.s. illicit urgent general and msnbc legal analyst. what was your impression of justice jackson? >> well, i think jonathan, you've got it right. america got better today, i've known her for a quarter of a century, but i was really bad glad, honestly, that i argue the second case today, not the first when you are just showing, because when she came out on the benches morning, there were tears in my eyes, and i wasn't alone in that. so i'm glad i had an hour and a half to recover, where i had to get up and actually argue, but you know i normally have the words, jonathan, but today i think words fail, because to tell you what this means for the country, someone not only brilliant, but it's such a decent human being. i got to meet her parents for the first time on friday, and became very clear to me where
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that all comes from. it's an extraordinary family. what you saw today in that question that you just showed was her really acting like not a first day justice. because normally first days in first years justices don't ask many questions. she came right out of the gate in that first argument, and asked a whole bunch of questions, she and facts about the third most of any justice in that post argument, and he played justice jackson's remarks on friday saying she now to seat at the table. well today, if you are watching, it felicia was always there, it was incredible. >> joel, let me ask you another question, because i'm listening to meal, and i recall what justice jackson said about your mother, judge constance baker motley, i'm wondering if in the audio you just played and even in any reporting you may have seen before tonight subpoenas out her first day on the bench, do you see any similarities, any traits in justice jackson that were inherent in your mom?
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>> well, i think they are both having great presence, and have great legal minds, the supreme court is very, much and the legal profession is very much about argument. and that requires both presence and significant intellect of the same time, so i think they're very similar in that way. >> and daniel, as the dean of howard university law school, i'm just wondering your thoughts on this. there's a gala poll out this shows a 58% of americans disapprove of the job of the supreme court. i know we're putting a lot of justice jackson's shoulders, but do you think her presence on the court will do anything to improve the supreme court's reputation? >> well, i have to say that was a mix emotion of the day for me, is that for the first time we
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see for women on the court at a time when we see a significant rollback of women's rights in this country, and also this term we will see them looking at everything from voting rights to affirmative action, to public accommodations, issues for lgbtq i a community. so it is really ironic, to see the most diverse court in supreme court history, which will also become known, i think, as a court that will significantly rollback the individual rights of many americans. so in some ways it was bittersweet, i think, because we don't want to use representation to really lend legitimacy to a court that is doing significant harm to the rights of many americans. >> danielle holley, we look at, y'all coming up, all the other news. today, the national archives revealed that some records from the trump right white house, are still missing. and governor prosecutors laid out their case today that elmer
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stewart rhodes the leader of the so-called oath keepers, quote, concocted a plan for a armed rebellion to shatter a bedrock of democracy during the january 6th attack on the capitol. didn't give us any clues into the justice department's january 6th investigation regarding donald trump? we will ask glenn kirschner, who is in the courtroom, next. in the courtroom, next. aine attacks? qulipta™ can help prevent migraine attacks. qulipta gets right to work. keeps attacks away over time. qulipta is a preventive treatment for episodic migraine. most common side effects are nausea, constipation, and tiredness. ask your doctor about qulipta. when dehydration gets real... ♪ hey! that's mine. i'll buy you a pony. advanced hydration isn't just for kids. pedialyte helps you hydrate during recovery.
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with him. if he does not do it now while his commander-in-chief, we're gonna have to do it ourselves later, much more desperate, and a much more bloody war. let's get it on now while he is still the commander-in-chief, hula. >> today, the justice department is opening statements in a seditious conspiracy trier of elmer stewart rhodes, the founder of the far-right militia group known as oath keepers. georgia justice department and several of his -- plotted to oppose the peaceful transfer of power on january 6th. today, the jury heard an audio recording from january 10th, four days after the capitol riot, were roads says, quote, only regret is that they should have brought rifles. his defense is that he thought his actions were legal, and that then president donald trump invoked the insurrection act which they say would've
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given them permission to use force to support trump. there is news tonight in the justice department's case against donald trump, the national archives says it still doesn't have all the documents that donald trump took with him when he left office. meanwhile, attorneys for donald trump are objecting to the justice department's request to expedite the repeal of the ruling, appointing a special master to oversee the documents in the case. trump's attorneys content, quote, the government has not, and cannot possibly articulate, any real risk of loss or harm resulting from a deliberative process. glenn kirschner is a former federal prosecutor, and an msnbc legal analyst. he was in the courtroom today, covering the oath keepers trial, and neil catskill is back with us as well. but glenn, i'm gonna start with you, first. i want to get a big picture assessment from you. what does this case tell us
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about where the justice department is heading with its ongoing january 6th prosecutions? >> you know, jonathan, it tells us that the department of justice is, in earnest, working its way up from the smaller charges to the more significant charges. seditious conspiracy charges are not often brought by the department of justice. they last tried about ten years ago, out in michigan, it didn't go so well for doj, in fact the judge dismissed the seditious conspiracy charges. but as i sat in the courtroom today, and watch the opening statements of the prosecutor, and the three defense attorneys the chose to open, people might not know the defense attorneys can differ their opening statements until after the government rested its case. but when i listen to the evidence, it was really sort of surprising how much direct evidence of guilt the prosecutors have, and they promised it to the jury.
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often, we are building cases on circumstantial evidence. but in this case, prosecutors have videos of the defendants actually committing the crime, or at least part of the crime, breaching the capitol, entering the capitol, bragging about the fact that they, quote, took the capitol. rarely do we have that kind of direct evidence of the crime in progress, so it looks like it's a strong case. now, these were only the opening statements, we have to await the proof, and believe me, no cases a sure winner. but it looks like the department of justice is off to a good start. >> glenn, i want to talk about one of those pieces of evidence. according to evidence presented by prosecutors, on january 8th, stewart rhodes told members of the oath keepers, quote, you all need to delete any of your comments regarding who did what, do not chat about oath keeper members allegedly doing anything at capitol. go dark on that. do not discuss. let me put it in infantry speak,
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shut the f up. >> it is doj using stewart rhodes's own words to make that case against him? >> absolutely. it was almost comical, because together with those statements that you just quoted the prosecutor's -- roads made in writing. he said to his fellow oath keepers delete your self incriminating comments. delete your comments that incriminate other oath keepers, and delete your comments that incriminate the organization, generally, problem is old elmer stewart rhodes didn't believe his own comments where he was instructing everybody else to get rid of the incriminating evidence. like, i'm not gonna say this a shooting fish in a barrel, but it really does feel like a strong case. >> wow. neil.
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i want to switch gears, and talk about the missing government documents. in a letter to the house oversight committee, the archive says it is still not sure that everything has been returned, quote, while there is no easy way to establish absolute accountability. we do not know that we do not have custody of everything we should, as appropriate, the archives would consult with the department of justice. by the technician in action for the recovery of records unlawfully removed. so with all the legal trouble, can you believe that he may not have returned all of them. how do you think the doj should handle this. >> i can't believe, it jonathan, and of course what we are talking about here is the mar-a-lago national security document investigation, which is totally different than what glenn is talking, about the january 6th investigation, which is going to the trump white house and looking at that. and that's different from the other criminal investigations going on in georgia, and
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possibly new york about other things, this is about retention of these highly sensitive national security documents. jonathan, you've had me on your sunday show a three days in the last eight weeks, and we always say, trump has provided no explanation whatsoever for what he was doing with those documents. that is still, now, eight weeks later he has them, and now we're learning that the archives still don't think he's turned over all the documents. that's going on top of a new story in the washington post tonight, the trump's lawyer told donald trump in february that he could not certify that all the documents had been returned to the archives, and trump sidelined him because of it, so all of this is very powerful evidence. it's kind of key glue, that is directly linking donald trump to what we can call the new big lie. which is the attempt to try to say, he returned everything to federal investigators, to the
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archives, when he obviously didn't. that's why the search warrant was executed. >> well to that point, you anticipated my next question and that is this washington post report out tonight, that alex cannon, this is quoting the story, a former trump organization story who worked for the campaign and for trump after the presidency told trump he could not tell the archives all the requested material have been returned he told others he was not sure if other documents were still at the club, and would be uncomfortable making such a claim with people familiar with the matter said. so neil, you've already told us what you make of this. but the fact that the key piece that you didn't mention was that this alex cannon guy, told trump and those folks that he was uncomfortable telling the archives they had everything. >> exactly. that's why his testimony should be -- or be forced to cooperate with law enforcement, shows donald trump having an intent to hide.
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having an intent to deceive. and this report is precisely why we see trump lawyer after trump lawyer wound up in their own legal difficulties because donald trump pressures his attorneys to do unethical things. some of them acquiesce and face disciplinary proceedings, and others like this guy are kind of caught in the middle, but i think this is a gold mine for prosecutors right now, there will be no attorney client privilege, because it will be set subject to the crime fraud exception. >> dang. neil katyal, glenn kirschner, thank you both very much for coming back to the last word. coming up, vladimir putin is losing the war in ukraine. after russia's attempted annexation of four regions in ukraine, putin has suffered military setbacks in at least three of them. the latest sign of progress on the battlefield for ukrainian forces, that's next. rces, that's next. full plate. wait, are you my blind date? dancing crew. trip for two.
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putin just keeps losing in ukraine. over the weekend, ukraine said it had retaken full control over the key eastern city after putin claimed it would belong to russia, quote, forever. nbc news reports today that ukraine seems to be making sweeping new gains on monday, piling pressure on russian president vladimir putin as the kremlin faced growing domestic unease over the state of its struggling military, and the
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efforts to reinforce it. russians lower state parliament unanimously and blindly approved putin's sham takeover of three ukrainian regions today. the newly claimed lands borders were not yet established, likely because ukraine's military keeps taking back more and more of that stolen land. yesterday on cbs news, former national security advisor attorney -- said this about the conflict. >> i think that we might be hearing this at the precipice of the collapse of the russian army in ukraine. a moral collapse. i think that they must really be at a breaking point. if you look at the number of casualties, the vast area that they are trying to defend. and now, of course, russia is trying to mobilize conscripts, and send them to the front untrained. >> joining us now is simon shuster, senior correspondent
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for time magazine. he recently visited kyiv, and is writing a book about the war in ukraine, and president volodymyr zelenskyy. and retired four storm u.s. army general barry mccaffrey, a decorated combat veteran of vietnam, and former battlefield commander in the persian gulf. he is now an ex--- military analyst. general mccaffrey, we'll start with you. we heard hr mcmaster say that vladimir putin's military could be on the verge of collapse. this morning, you called the weekends events momentous. where are we now, after ukrainian forces made even more gains today? >> it's an astonishing state of affairs. david and goliath. the ukrainians, they are essentially a nation in arms. they have 17 billion dollars of u.s. military technology, and now on the fly integrated into their forces. they've dealt a devastating blow in the east to the russian forces there, for a decade or
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longer. that has been world where one trenches, artillery warfare. dredging gains of a kilometer or two of ground. now they have unhinged the whole effort by capturing lyman, the logistics and rail center. it may very well be that that will unravel the russian position in the east. and then the strategic center of gravity is in the south. the kherson park it, are they capable of bagging 15,000 or more russian elite forces? i think that everybody properly is saying that there is hard fighting again, but it looks as if the russian military is starting to come apart on them. >> and so simon, you are well sourced with ukrainian officials in kyiv. how are they reacting to these huge gains, and what are they willing to say about what comes next? >> the move in kyiv is really
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great right now, they have quite a bit to give them encouragement, and how they are doing in the war. again, not only east, but in the south, there are reports that their offensive in the south is advancing, and that they are still pursuing that, and having a lot of success. i think also, in terms of the morale, these 300,000 troops that putin mobilized just last week, we have not seen them yet making any kind of difference on the ground, in any discernible district -- ukrainians position is that they are going to push ahead. if you want to throw another 300,000 an strained conscripts to fight, then we will accept the surrender, where we are going to fight them. ukrainians feel that they are not going to make any difference on the ground. those new russian forces, they are supposedly coming to the fight, and they are pushing
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ahead. their aim is to take back all of the territory that they say russia has occupied since the invasion in february, and indeed, they want to push ahead even further, taking back crimea, which russia annexed in 2014. the missions are very big, they're pushing ahead with those, and there is no move to negotiate, because they see the front line shifting in ukraine's favor. i don't think they're going to sit down at any negotiating table while they are having these battlefield successes. >> general mccaffrey, on russian television, and in the russian press, which all states controlled. in eastern ukraine, it has brought a lot of calls for military leadership to face harsh consequences. we saw that criticism come during a red square concert celebrating rushes illegal claims on these foreign eastern regions of ukraine. what does this growing dissent that we are seeing mean for putin? >> it's hard to say.
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he still has absolute control of his own personal security apparatus. he's got 4000 people guarding him and his giant countryside, it's hard to get to him with some kind of assassination attempt, and never mind take him out of power. he also is absolute loyalty for the internal repression organization, the gru, fsb, et cetera. and so he will be very difficult to dislodge. his life is at stake on this, his existential existence as a political leader. russia is a part of the nations coming together economically, the mobilization isn't disaster, and so as we look towards the future, over the next several months, these are consequential times. if the russian army unravels, hooting will be desperate. he will look for a way out, will he actually -- which is completely illogical,
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use the so-called tactical nuclear weapons. what with the target be? murder 100,000 ukrainians? attack a nato force in poland? and so it doesn't make any sense. i think that the biden team, with tony blinken and lloyd austin in defense are rightfully concerned to watch this happen. we cannot give him a way out. this is a time in which the ukrainian army is being told, gain and maintain contact with the enemy force, and relentlessly conduct a pursuit. you just can't say, well, let's give him a face saving way out. they are going to take on the battlefield what they can get, and right now it is completely going in the direction of the ukrainian armed forces. >> okay, we'll have to leave it there. general barry mccaffrey, shine monster, thank you both very much for joining us tonight. coming up, kurt more della and
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the house. that is political details, this sunday senator rick scott could not avoid questions about donald trump's extremism, like his comment that mitch mcconnell has a, quote, death wish, and trump's racist smears about mcconnell's wife. former trump transportation secretary -- or comments about marjorie taylor greene, quote, democrats are killing republicans. >> the language is what i am talking about. isn't that dangerous? >> i think we all have to figure out how we start bringing people together. >> you would agree that that language doesn't keep people together? >> i believe with the person trump is talking about is the fact that we cannot keep spending money. >> that's not what the former president said. cocoa chao was the phrase that he referred to as a former cabinet secretary, elaine chao. >> he gives people nicknames.
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>> joining us now, kirk bardella, former spokesperson for republicans on the house oversight committee. he is now a democratic strategist. and maria teresa kumar, an msnbc contributor. kurt, the wall street journal editorial board took a stand against donald trump's comments, even if senator scott could not, writing quote, it's all to him easy to imagine some fanatic taking mr. trump seriously and literally, and attempting to kill mr. mcconnell. why is it so hard for republicans to just unequivocally condemn this rhetoric as threats against lawmakers? they are growing. >> i mean, listen. we are at a point where if you stay silent, if you don't speak out against this type of inflammatory calls for violence and racism, then you must believe in it. this is a guided spent the
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better part of the pandemic calling people who look like me a virus. using terms like conch flu, and china virus. putting a target on our, back and every him asian american in this country. it's not surprising that he would -- elaine shout, and that type of racist terminology. of course, what leads to the next iteration of that is violence, and we have seen that manifest itself time and time again. january six that showed us that it is not just empty words, it's not just rhetoric, it's not just trolling on twitter, it is real, and the people that follow these people, they take their words as gospel and marching orders. >> maria, today in florida, the democratic chair manny diaz criticize florida lawmakers for not voting for the spending bill, including quote, that is a level of callous indifference and political opportunism that boggles the mind. what is the calculus for flutter a publicans who voted
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against aid that could help people in their own state they're struggling right now? >> i think if anything, it is a long laundry list of running against their constituency all the time. they voted against the ar a, which included a cap on insulin. they voted against the child tax credit, the aca. it is a part of the republican party that says that they care about their constituency, but they don't. the cynical part of it is, and this is what is technical about it. while their voting against all of this legislation that would help floridians, they go back home and they touted as if they agreed with it. they go back and act as if they voted for it. the hypocrisy should anger all their constituents. one of the reasons that you see such a difference in the white house is that we don't have a fascist republican in the white house, where he would be recalled. donald trump would only give aid to the folks that had voted for him. instead, we have a president for all americans. he's going to florida, talking
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to floridians. you might not have voted for me, but i'm your president, and we have your back. >> right, and you had to say nice things about donald trump tonight to get him to help. let's take a look at this new fire, on fire ad targeting kevin mccarthy and gop on crime. watch this. >> kevin, if you really want to talk about crime, let's start with your own party. it sure seems like you and your mega pals are certified with certain crimes. crimes like stealing talk secret nuclear files, attacking the nation's capital, assaulting police officers, attempting to overthrow an election, not to mention the little stuff like tax and bank fraud. the truth is, kevin, you are and anti crime, and neither is your party. you and your fellow republicans are just trying to scare voters. >> kurt, that ad -- and that's not even the entire ad, i think there's about a
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minute more of that ad and to go. what is trying to be accomplished with that ad? >> that's a new piece that just went up from congressman eric -- and a lineup maher. they came together, realizing that as republicans go back to that familiar playbook of talking about law and order, and crime, they are full of it. instead of leaning away from the fight, instead of cowering down, republicans expected across to do that. they are showing omar and democrats this is how you fight back. this is how you take the fight to them. kevin mccarthy's congressional district is one of the deadliest in the country, one of the highest crime rates in the country. you cannot be, as the ad concludes, pro cop and pro coup at the same time. i think that this is something that every democrat who gets challenge by republicans on the crime debate, they should lean into it, watch this ad, and do the same thing. >> third way has a report that shows just that. the crime data shows bakersfield is high crime.
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visit florida on wednesday to survey damage from hurricane ian. margot snipe of capital be news say that people in a predominantly black fort myers neighborhood of dunbar worried that the millions in aid and resources for recovery efforts might not get to them despite their need for it. she notes that, quote, about 26% of black families in fort
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myers are living in poverty. that's double the rate for white families. the disparity suggests that recovering from a major natural's asked or which requires that significant resources, time, and money may disproportionately burdened black residents. after that story was published, a spokesperson for fema tweeted that we are aware the needs in dunbar, and sent teams to the area yesterday. the fema disaster survivor assistance teams are going door to door again today in the community. joining me now is the reporter behind that piece, margot snipe. congratulations on getting action as a result of your reporting. i want to read an account in your piece from bellamy, a 20-year-old resident of fort myers. the worst part is waiting on the power to come back on, said bellamy. my groceries are going bad. he wonders if he should cut down the trees in his front yard. it is something he is never
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thought of before. he's convinced his community will have to wade into the last wave of resources to get help. quote, i haven't seen one light truck, he said. no tree truck. i haven't seen one power truck. margot, is that sentiment specific to dunbar and florida politics, and local representatives? >> i think that that is representative of how he as a resonant, having lived there for 20 years. he was the next nor debris to one lady who had a tree slice her house in half, essentially. so when i walked up to him, he's sitting in the trunk of his car, and we actually had to stop our interview because the neighbors bringing food to him. there is a sense of community that we are going to lift each other, of help each other, and the people who had food we're bringing it to neighbors. and so it was a sense from him, having lived in the community
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for 20 years, that maybe he should not have to wait for help, maybe the community was going to have to find their own resources how they could. >> margot snipe, congratulations again for showing the power of journalism. great reporting. thank you very much for coming to the last word. that is tonight's last word, the 11th hour starts right now. >> tonight, the latest stunners in the mar-a-lago classified document investigation. the trump lawyer who reportedly would not do as his bias requested, as the national archives confirm several items remain missing. then, 35 days until the midterms, reelection deniers on the ballot, democracy hangs in the balance. plus, new evidence circus -- linked to nfl legend brett favre. as president biden