thank you so much for letting us into your homes during these extraordinary times. we are grateful. "the beat" with ari melber starts right now. hi, ari. >> hi, nicolle. thanks so much. welcome to "the beat." i'm ari melber. it is good to be back with you. we're tracking several stories at this hour. donald trump just made his unusual appeal to the supreme court in the classified documents probe. i also have some important civil rights developments for you later tonight. our top story right now is how women's rights and abortion continue to upsend these midterms. it's a story that in politics tonight has two lanes. first, the growing mobilization of women and women's rights supporters eyeing the midterms as we have an election here that they say will be the chief way in the nation to oppose the overturning a roe, a dynamic you see on display here that already registered in the traditionally republican state of kansas.

it's also an issue in many races around the nation. we are 35 days out from these midterms, and right now the scandal engulfing republican herschel walker in one race, but tells a similar story. he follows a report that states he has backed abortion in his own personal life, specifically funding an abortion for a woman in 2009. that was before the supreme court recently allowed states to ban abortions outright. and it is that personal act that is exactly what walker also claims to be run against. the beast, as you see here, documents what he allegedly did to support abortion in his personal life, including an account of the woman involved, while he publicly claims the opposite and wants to take away that right from others. it is running -- he is running

on this plan to ban abortion while he has been allegedly caught supporting it. so in its own personal scandal louse way it is an echo about who makes the larger decisions, whether this is about what they say, or whether this is something else entirely, a hypocritical effort to control others' bows and not live by the same rules. we showed you the beast reporting. nbc has not independently verified that reporting, though the daily beast stands by their sources, while walker is out denying the whole thing as a, quote, lie. >> do you know the woman that is making this allegation? >> i have idea, but it is a flat-out lie, and now you know how important this seat is. this seat is very important that they'll do anything to win this seat, lie, because they want to make it about everything else except what the true problems that we have in this country is.

i the tell you right now, i never asked anyone to get an abortion, never paid for an abortion, and it's a lie. >> what about the $700 check? is there anybody you can ever remember sending that much money to? >> well, i send money to a lot of people, and that's what's so funny. >> that's his denial. another source backing up some overlapping accounts is one of the walkers' own sons. he had stayed out of discussing this race until this story broke. now he is releasing videos alleging misconduct by his father and calling him a liar. walker's campaign appears somewhat rattled. georgia republicans seeking distance from him. it looks like the abortion issue is hurting walker both for his personal hypocrisy -- this is a scandalous story for someone running on his platform -- but also it just connects with what i'm telling you, the wider opposition to republicans who are running on platforms to ban abortion. so this may favor his opponent,

rafael warnock who won his seat in the 2020 special election in georgia after trump lost. the evidence suggests the issue is broader than one candidates perm scandal and that it cuts against republicans well outside of moderate or so-called purple states. women's rights are upending a lot of premises right now about an election we were told initially was supposed to favor republicans. today is 100 days since the supreme court overruled roe vs. wade as many people continue to fight back. >> hands off -- >> our bodies! >> hands off -- >> our bodies! >> you want the control women's bodies. >> oh, my god. lee women alone! it's my body! >> there are people across this state who died -- who died because they don't have access to reproductive health care. >> those with people that we are

listening to, that we are reporting on for you as you make up your own mind if you're going vote in the midterms, because it always comes back to people. the walker story may be important in his state for his voters to assess his consistency, truthfulness, the wider story is playing out in all states, even with people who don't have mr. walker's bundle of alleged problems. let's be clear, i've mentioned this before, we are right now -- you are living through the first election in 50 years where total abortion bans are literally on the ballot in the united states. the scope of this backlash is becoming clearer because, again, i've gone out of my way to mention when we cover this issue -- there are good faith differences of opinion in america. there are people who have strong views about life, conception, and when does it all start?

how do you make those decisions? no one is saying that it is super easy, black and white, but the supreme court, backed by this version, this modern republican party, is making it so black and white that they are losing in states like kansas over the issue because there were a lot of people of varying back grounds, including people who might have the religious beliefs of what is sometimes call a pro life view that don't think this should begin and end with the state with a bunch of politicians telling you what your rights are. so maybe you get to make those decisions yourself. or not. that's what's on the ballot. now, the politics are sub fused with all of this. the law is a function of politics. in a functioning democracy. and there are republicans in all kinds of states that seem to get this is a loser right now as we're 35 days out. take the republican senate candidate in arizona, a fairly conservative state, scrubbing his website of what was described as, quote, extreme anti-abortion stances.

that trend we've seen in pennsylvania, michigan, colorado, north carolina, where folks are scrubbing the facts the about the republican party's opposition to abortion as they face this particular general electorate. but, boy, it gets harder to scrub the facts when bombshells are dropping on the major new school republican candidates who are somehow suppose to help turn the page. it appears to problem for the republicans right now is that the page is open to that part of their platform that can't be easily scrubbed. it's the part that says abortion should be banned in all 50 states. i'm joined now by "new york times" columnist michelle goldberg and cornell velcher. michelle, your thoughts of what's happening here? >> well, look, i think that

herschel walker is so emblematic of what the republican party has become under trump. he's not the only republican who has either been accused or been shown to have paid for an abortion and remained in office. we know that donald trump refused to answer a question about whether or not he ever paid for an abortion. and so i think what it's changed is that, with donald trump, when some of his scandals emerged in his first presidential campaign in 2016, the party was still capable of shame and believing it base voters could be swayed by these types of things. saw people running away from him after this access hollywood tape. that's gone in the republican party. we saw herschel walker's son turn away from him, and we should be clear, he's not opposed to his dad's politics, he's opposed to his conduct. but he was alone.

the rest of the party closed ranks around the candidates. i believe he had a record fundraising day. so i think it shows a couple of things. it shows the rank hypocrisy. it also show this is not a party that actually believes that abortion is murder, because even though -- i think if you believe, if you truly believe abortion is murder, you might be capable of making a pragmatic decision, i'm voting for walker because i want mitch mcconnell to be senator. but people are truly unfazed. they don't care. fit owns the libs, they're all for it. >> hmm. do you think then that the republican party has a herschel walker problem in other states where he's not running but, as you say, this is a pattern with, i guess, male politicians? >> i think clearly the evidence is not just from the kansas referendum, but there's been a couple of special elections in which democrats outperformed and abortion has been at the

forefront. i think it is just so galling to women, you know? women of all sorts, but especially if you have been pregnant, if you sort of know what some of these milestones mean, if you know the kind of how thin the line sometimes is between a healthy pregnancy and some kind of disastrous outcome, to see these men, you know, dr. oz, herschel walker, blake masters, the audacity of them thinking they can make these decisions for women they truly don't care about -- just the cynicism and cruelty of it i think hits a lot of women even if they were never superattuned to politics in other ways. >> cornell, i hope people are clearing the clarity of michelle's analysis, because it intersects with the policy question -- do you want to big government run by the politician, who in many of these states are overwhelmingly

male -- making these decisions for other people? or do you want to pre-roe ballots where there certainly was some regulation, but people could exercise largely over the time they had, these decisions for themselves. >> listen, i hope that it's that clear cut, but there's often more variables in play in elections than that. i think progressives and a lot of women would like to make it simply about their freedom, reproductive freedom. let's be clear -- herschel walker does encapsulate all that as the republican party and donald trump right now. in fact, he in many ways is just like donald trump. but i will remind you, ari, that donald trump got 49.2 million votes in georgia. he came awfully close to winning that state.

so at some point, the corruption, the immoral behavior, the lack of ethics, it all takes a backseat to larger questions of tribalism. and as long as herschel walker is still in their eyes their tribal warrior, going to be for their tribe and is going vote in line for their tribe, for their larger tribal issues, he is going to get the vast majority if not over 90% of all those donald trump voters. >> sure. let me push you as an analyst -- let me push you be say, is he weaker today than he was last week? >> no. why is he weaker? he's weaker to us, but again -- all these things that you lay at the feet of herschel walker, the anti-intellectualism, the lack

of curiosity about policy, the abuse of women -- all these things that we really want to matter to these voters, and in the end you got 49.2 million votes in georgia and almost won. so what's going to be the difference? i think the difference is do more of these young women who have in the been involved in the process get more involved in the process ? and i am still weary of that because right now herschel walker is tide or up a point, and it all depends what the electorate is. here's the fundamental issue is when you look at college nonwhite women in georgia, guess what candidate they're still backing, right? so it's a real challenge. we're going to answer this question in this election. how strong is gender politics? is gender politics able today to compete and trump tribal politics? to me, that is a dividing line,

particularly in georgia, but also nationally. >> the flubs part of the reality, so we want people to understand that, and it's a state that's been red for a while and took that turn. when we say gender politics or human rights politics, a lot of social change has come in this country when you identify human rights as universal, not only, does this affect you this time and do you care about that or not? small government is small government or not. big questions. we're only scratching the surface, but did want to hear from both of you. coming up, my breakdown on something that broke late in the day. donald trump trying to go to the supreme court. he thinks he might be able to help them with his documents problem. then, accusing john eastman of hiding documents. we're back in one minute. 're bae ♪

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next week. it could be the final hearing. and that means that there are am strands that are being pulled by this investigation as it gets closer to wrapping up, including one of the key coup architects, john eastmanning a former trump lawyer who had his phone seize by the feds this summer. that was a sign a loft folks involved in these probes are looking at him as someone who potentially had criminal evidence on his phone, on his person. now the committee wants a judge to review over 500 documents that have not been produced that eastman owed them from months ago. the committee is siting documents eastman shielded saying that's the proof he's been improperly shielding other documents. that is one person who worked directly for john. then you have allies and neighbors. take republican senator ron johnson. you may recall that he has changed his story as the pressure mounted, which is reminder that these investigations matter, that these facts sometimes change

what politicians do. it was this investigation that showed johnson's top staffer was texts an aide to mike pence on january 6th trying to still get involved and somehow furnish materials that might have helped stage another element of plan to overthrow the election. this was the fake or fraudulent electors and the idea is that there would be a go between, johnson would somehow give that to pence. today we're learning he was texting trump's attorney before and after the contact with the aide. johnson tells nbc, well, the involvement there was just an hour, which his his way of reduing it. an hour on january 6th a lot, and that's different than a few months ago when he said it was seconds. if this is all ringing bells, that's because sometimes these reporters who have that job of tracking people down while they're writing stories and

working sources, they're onsite, and sometimes when they get up to someone on site, that creates more pressure. mr. johnson has tried to spin this many ways, but he found himself confronted by a journalist, and this happened. >> how much did you know about what your chief of staff was doing with the alternate slate of electors? >> i'm on the phone right now. >> no, you're not. i can see your phone. i can see your screen. can you explain what your chief of staff was doing? does your chief of staff still work for you, senator? >> can you explain what happened there? why was your chief of staff offering to to the vice president? >> this is a complete nonstory. we've issued a statement, and it's a nonstory. i don't know what you're even concern about here. >> your chief of staff is saying

that you offered -- you wanted to tell -- alternate electors to mike pence. >> it was a staff to staff exchange, and i was basically unaware of it, and chief's staff contacted the vice president's staff, said, do you want this? he said no, and that was end of story. >> why was he delivering them? >> someone delivered it to our office. >> did you support the evidents to get those slate to the vice president? >> no, i had no knowledge a this. i had no knowledge of this. i had no knowledge of this. i had no involvement in the alternate state of electors. i had no idea this thing got delivered to us. staff to staff. my chief of staff did the right thing. they said they didn't want it, we didn't deliver it. that's the end of story. >> that's not the end of the

story. we wanted to show you the entire exchange, including shout-out to the reporter, because mr. johnson changed his story. then he was claiming he had no knowledge of this. it was all staff stuff and he wasn't involved, but the investigation has shown he was intimately involved before and after, with not just a staffer, but the coup lawyer who had his phone searched. it may be that johnson never broke laws but was trying to duck and run from something he knows was bad, publicly, politically, or otherwise. but the facts do matter, and the lie -- this is strange -- sometimes the lie helps reveal the truth. the truth is this was so bad that even in the maga-fied republican party, this year ron johnson wanted to run for this. he didn't want credit for being the last guy doing the last failed part of the coup. that's why he claimed then he had no knowledge. and tonight the news is he had knowledge of it, he himself was

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in our history books. now, that same law is back before the supreme court today, which is why, as i mentioned, maya wylie is here. so, it is worth knowing how that last round went when the court made it basically easier for governments to crack down on voting. >> as one reporter put it today, the u.s. supreme court has driven a stake through the heart of the most important civil rights law ever enacted the voting rights act. >> the cornerstone of american civil rights law. i am deeply disappointed with the court's decision. >> republican governors and state legislatures are already today -- the day of the ruling -- rolling out a new round of ways to make voter harder. >> on the surface it may appear neutral, have the effect of discouraging people from voting. >> we've come too far, made too much progress to go back.

>> that ruling did set voting rights back. now today a supreme court with more republican appointees is scrutinizing how state officials, republican politicians have drawn or distorted the voting districts in the very red state of alabama. they basically are accused of artificially cornering most of the state's black voters into just one of seven total districts under this redistricting. now, that is not proportionate considering the black voters comprise about a third of what would be those states' districts. alabama republicans insist the map is simply neutral. that was their defense in court today. the voting rights act was passed to try to stop the sup registration of black voters, just as earlier constitutional amendments try to redress some of america's well known racist history. interesting today, the first black woman to ever serve on this supreme court, justice

jackson, questioned this basic alabama defense that those earlier amendment worse somehow neutral on race. she know the historical record shows that the reason those very amendments were passed was because the u.s. had been denying black people the same civil rights of white citizens at the time, as she explained today. >> i don't think that the historical record establishes that the founders believed that race neutrality or race blindness was required, right? they drafted the civil rights act of 1866, which specifically stated that citizens would have the same civil rights as enjoyed by white citizens. that's the point of that act, to make sure that the other citizens, the black citizens, would have the same as the white citizens, so they recognized that there was unequal treatment. >> we have really one of the most renowned guests you could

get for this exact discussion, maya wylie is an attorney. she ran for mayor of new york, and she is the president of the leadership conference on civil and human rights. thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me, ari. >> important case. what should we glean, people watch who are not lawyers and studying every aspect of oral argument, from that exchange from the justice? >> you know, first of all, i just want to say, as justice ketanji brown jackson's first argument, she demonstrated exactly why he was a highly qualified candidate, deserved that nomination, and how important it was to have someone like her on the bench. because what is at stake fundamentally is whether we acknowledge that congress and our constitution has said, we got make this a fair country for everyone in it. and unless we ensure folks a

fair opportunity to vote for leaders who will represent their interests, their concerns, their priorities, we don't have a functioning democracy, and black people, people of color in this country, have been denied that for generations. the voting rights act at stake here was one of the most important pieces of legislation to protect democracy and ensure a voice for people of color, for black people, and what she did is went straight to the heart of what we're debating and what we're hearing debated on the supreme court, which is whether looking at black communities, latino communities, communiies of color, and saying, hey, there are communities of interest here that won't be able to get someone elected that actually serves and represents their interests, if we're not paying attention to whether or not they're actually getting that opportunity to elect that person. and what the conservatives are

saying is, you know, you can discriminate by saying you're not discriminating. that's essentially the argument. if the state of alabama says, we just won't look at race, we will just not see black people, and say it's neutral, because we didn't take race into effect, that's constitutional. she just did a master class on saying exactly why our laws were developed intentionally to look at race, because we can't ensure that people of color get included, have power, if we ignore all the ways we've denied the power. and if we do that by saying, black people? i don't see any? you see any? i don't. >> we showed the history of what's happened when this law has been up before the court. there's a big difference between how you might teach your ideal preschool class and say, hey, let's all just be people, and that might be a really nice way to start.

that's very different from when you have federal law that's still on the books that says, politicians who are cornering people, when it's quite obviously for political benefit and say, oh, we're color blind, that's it. that's very different. the idealized dream of total neutrality that communities may reach is different from the redress that actually is linked to whether we ever get there. that's why we wanted to hear from you on that. but you know this is "the beat" and we do more than one thing around here. >> we do. >> maya has agree to be a part of now a bit of a goofy turn that's still about important stuff in the law. there's no better way to make the turn than someone that we love on "the beat," who actually doesn't love "the beat" as much as "the beat" loves him, but that's okay. i want to turn to the intersection of the supreme court and comedy and police accountability as we get into a little bit of humor.

>> those police need to be held accountable, the same way you're going hold me accountable if i break the law. >> whenever somebody goes wrong, serious stuff, murder, these guys never get prosecuted. >> those are valid frustrations. although as a side note, murder and what not would be on amazing csi. >> john oliver making jokes about serious stuff. he was using satire. protected under the first amendment. and that brings us to this supreme court case involving a young man named anthony novak. he created a satirical facebook page. he was trying to criticize or spoof the local police department, so it looked a little bit like the real page. it had a satirical slogan that was not the real slogan, quote, we know crime, now, maya is here to get into why this is before

the supreme court. that individual was targeted by the police. they jailed him for four days over the jokes. he beat the case and then turned around and sued them, and that's going before the supreme court. that brings us to something -- you've seen this. you've litigated. aye never seen this, the satirical site "the onion" submitted an unusual brief on his behalf. to help us analyze this, maya's here. i want to warn everyone, we will be using this sound effect during the story. when we need it. because it's news. otherwise it's confusing. they're going to be like, was ari for real? no. this is tongue and cheek. the onion is basically saying this individual should have every right to do satire, and when they identify themselves, which is kind of a technical thing you have to do in a brief, the onion explains to the supreme court they're the single most powerful organization in human history. ♪♪ now, maya, i'm curious what you think. whether the jokes are amazing or not, i've never seen a fully

satirical brief, and what do you think they're trying to tell the court with this? >> i got to just tell you. they need to get honorary law degrees. that's all i'm going to say. it was brill i can't want, his tearicle, history making. they use satire to make fully legitimate legal points about exactly why this is covered by the first amendment. just remember, it's not actually that funny, because if this guy, if novak could actually go through the process they went through because they did satire, so could the onion, and this is the point. if this were allowed to stand, it would be an extremely dangerous precedent for the first amendment for a parody, and in a case where you're being very clear that you are parroting -- obviously you could have situations where, you know,

someone could claim parody when they're doing something dangerous. that's not the case here, and actually you'd have to meet a very, very, very high bar to prove you were inciting violence. i think it's hard for anyone not to read this onion brief and not prove they were making the point brilliantly by saying, we are so credible, we're even trusted by iran and china. >> i have 30 seconds left. how do you think justices respond to this? they've dealt with cases about the boundaries of art or literature, but they're not known to be the funniest bunch, and i felt like what the onion did was say, hey, everybody, there's got to be room to tell jokes, especially about the powerful. >> i hope they read it seriously, because it's making the point about parody playing an important first amendment role. so to read it and laugh but also laugh at the double joke, because it's also about don't make this illegal because then you really don't have a sense of

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request to keep about 100 classified documents separate under this review of what was seized from trump's mar-a-lago residence. the filing tries to get the supreme court to overrule and reverse that and argues there was a jurisdictional problem with the review of a special master order. this is a largely technical matter but you have the trump lawyers arguing any review of materials seized would erode public confidence in the system of justice. now, this is not the time where the supreme court could normally get involved at all, but this is not a normal case, and this is some high stakes poker the president's lawyers are playing. they could get shut down early or might crack the door in to even more review. that's what we know at this hour, but we'll keep you posted on any signs of action from the supreme court. coming up, a story we have promised you we will stay on, accountability for alex jones. stay with us. d. (man) wahoooo! (vo) you can be well-groomed.

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"stranger at the gate." >> now i was being forced to see people that i considered an enemy, every time i went out the door. this is my country, my city. got to the point to where i just wanted to do harm to them. >> the film explores themes that frankly are sometimes neglected in our politics, our news, or our digital lives. patience, forgiveness and our capacity to change even if people sometimes make big mistakes or have done bad things. so we're kind of talking about truth and art here. the film, though, is scored by renowned violinist azima up ending many traditions performing with yo-yo ma and stevie wonder and famed artists like kendrick lamar. her classic takes on current hits are really widely embraced, take the rendition of "mask off"

which went viral in 2017, that was before everyone was wearing masks for covid. she hit the main stage at coachella performing with beyonce in one of the most renowned live performances of the last decade, which is now also a netflix special. violinist and composer azima is our special guest on "the beat," she's bringing classical music to a whole new generation. this is her in-person debut on "the beat." thank you so much for being here. >> thank you so much, ari, i'm happy to be here. >> a lot going on. before we get to the film, tell me about this album and who it's connecting with. >> definitely. you know, i am a classically trained violinist, but i'm also somebody who doesn't look like at typical classically trained violinist. for younger audiences, they don't see people they can identify with classical music. as somebody who didn't always

fit in, i felt it my mission to bring class call music to the younger generation, people of color. that's what it's about. i like to joke with students that i work with, if you take ed sheeran or beyonce or drake, these are the equivalents of bach, that's a huge part of what i do, making the archaic and old feel more modern and relevant. >> scoring this film, what does this mean to you? >> one of my mentors was like, hey, can you step in and compose this for me. i checked out the fim. i watched it and was so moved by the story. it made me cry the first time i watched it because of the way you introed this in terms of through the disintegration of so much of our political discourse, the level of hate, how everybody is so divided and seeing this

man change. he was going to bomb the muslim center in indiana, and had such a change of heart that he converted to islam. to me, scoring that to orchestra was something where i wanted to bring humanity to the music to breathe life into the story further. it was an incredible story. it was an honor to be a part of that. >> let's take a look at some of what you do. >> ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪ out like a light like light like a light ♪ ♪ slept through the flight knocked through the night ♪ >> slept through the flight,

drake. when you do that kind of work, the familiar connects with people, but the echo is the payoff. >> yeah. >> we know picasso said everybody knows velazquez, here's my take on it and you could kind of see both. how do you play with that in the way you actually make the music because obviously there's a whole -- there's a whole generation going that's that drake song. >> yeah, you know, i think i sort of do it from the inverse. i practice classical violin every morning, i do my scales, bach, mozart, brahms, from the cannon of the pieces i have grown up with, and usually i'll be playing something and i'll get to a part, and i'm like, wait, this is super cool. this is an interesting cell i could expand on. that baby beat. there's something there and it happens really organically, but i think it starts from the daily practice of what i do and always having a bit of a fresh lens even though it's such a -- i have been doing it my whole life

the violin, right, and i think it's always bringing a fresh perspective to that daily practices and then being open to what happens. >> awesome. thank you for joining us. >> thank you, ari, appreciate it. >> thank you so much. and our question for you, which you can hit me @ari melber on any platform, who was your favorite classical artist, they were the pop stars of their era. @ari melber, where you can connect with me. the "the reidout" is next. tonight on "the reidout." >> family values, people, four kids, four different women. wasn't in the house raising one of them. he was out having sex with other women. do you care about family lives. lie after lie after lie, the abortion part drops yesterday, it's his handwriting on the card, they say he has receipts, he get