tv Katy Tur Reports MSNBC October 6, 2022 11:00am-12:00pm PDT
good to be with you. i'm katy tur. the president is on the road again today. this time focusing on the economy and job creation, and you will remember that back in august, he signed the chips bill into law, and it included $52 billion in federal subsidies for advanced manufacturing. well today, he is touting the benefits of that new law. he is in upstate new york, in poughkeepsie, at an ibm plant. there he is right there, the company will be announcing a flew $20 billion investment in semiconductor r&d.
this is on top of an announcement from another tech company in the region, micron, which said earlier this week it will spend $100 billion on a new plant in upstate new york. that is the good news that the president is trying to ride high into the midterms, which are 33 days away now. the not so good news, which republicans are seizing on, and democrats aren't too happen about either is opec plus's announcement to cut oil production, led by saudi arabia and russia. the cartel is taking 2 million barrels off the market a day, starting in november. that's 2% of the global oil production. now, while the united states is somewhat shielded from a price increase, because the white house has been tapping into the country's strategic oil reserves, the rest of the world is not, and prices are already climbing. beyond prices though, there is also political fallout, as we told you yesterday, the cut in production could have the effect of helping russia fund its war
in ukraine. neutralizing an attempt by the g 7 to put a price cap on russian oil. the consequences are not lost on this white house, which has spent considerable time trying to lobby saudi arabia. even agreeing to this meeting with the president and mohammed bin salman, the crown prince who the u.s. believes is responsible for the murder and dismembering of a "washington post" journalist, and we will dive into what this all means with a ton of experts in a few minutes but let us go go right to poughkeepsie where president biden is about to speak. we'll listen in. >> well, thank you very much. very nice of you. from the ohio state. a running bat until my office, because we have some who went to that other ohio university. and it's constant. but look, folks, thank you very
much for hosting us today. it is really important us to. and governor, thank you for the passport into the state. i appreciate it very much. you're a great partner to me and a great leader of the state, in creating jobs and making new york once again the hub of manufacturing in the world. [ applause ] >> i couldn't be here -- i could be here today, and thanks to new york chuck schumer, who never tells you what is on his mind, you never have to wonder, and has done a hell of a job an senator gillibrand has done a great job as well. and it is great to be here with the hudson county congressman sean patrick maloney. i'm katherine eugenie fin gan's son, i want you to know that, okay? and also paul, another irishman,
i'm only kidding, obviously, but i just want you to know that, at arena rate, the newest member, pat ryan, who has proved the pundits wrong and got elected in august. [ applause ] >> pat, it's great to be with you, pal. it's a hell of a delegation. one of the most competent in the country. it's great to be here at ibm here in poughkeepsie. you know, and an iconic american company, founded more than 100 years ago, and that has more patents than any other u.s. company. than any other. and i feel it is going to keep going. and the source of american jobs, american innovation, and american pride. and it's here, it's here at this factory, and factories of other companies across america, where america's future is literally being built. because of the ground-breaking chips and science act that i signed into law with the help of the majority leader schumer and members of the congress that are here today. chuck stayed the course. stuck with me. and we got it done.
and folks, by the way, just since we've been elected, we've created 678,000 new manufacturing jobs. [ applause ] >> and just getting starting. where is it written that we can't lead manufacturing in the world? i don't know where that's written. that's one of the things that the chips act is going to change. a law that is going to build a future and a proud, proud legacy, not only for ibm but for the country, a legacy of innovation and manufacturing that exists in this region of new york. and here in poughkeepsie, where the rifles from world war one were made, where the first electric typewriters, calculators, even cough drops were made. and i brought some with me. and it's here now, in the hudson valley, become the epicenter of quantum computing, the most advanced and fastest computing ever, ever seen in the world. quantum computing has a
potential to transform everything. from how we create new medicines, to how we power artificial intelligence, and cybersecurity, and it is technology that is vital to our economy, and equally important to our national security. our national security. and it's technology that's made possible because of semiconductors, those tine tiny little computer checks everyone knows more than any other room in the country, the size of our fingertip that power everything in our every day lives, smartphones, cars, washing machines, the internet, the electric grid, and so much more. but here's the deal. america invented these chips. america invented these chips. they powered nasa's first moon mission that president kennedy inspired. here in america. federal investment helped bring down the cost of creating these chips creating a market and an
entire new industry. as a result, over 30 years ago, america had more than 30% of the global chip production. but then something happened. something happened. american manufacturing, the backbone of our economy, got hollowed out. because companies began to move jobs and production overseas. and as a result, today, we're down to barely 10% of the world's chips, despite leading the chip research and design. and as we saw during the pandemic, when factories, when factories that make these chips shut down around the world, the global economy literally comes to a screeching halt. more americans will learn the phrase supply chain and what it means. guess what? the supply chain is going to start here, and end here. in the united states. [ applause ] >> i'm not joking. for example, here in the united states, one-third of core inflation last year, the core
inflation last year, was due to higher pries of automobiles. why? because of a shortage of semiconductors that make these vehicles move. folks, we need to make these chips here in america. to bring down every day costs and create good-paying american jobs. don't take my word for it. listen to the leaders of ibm and across the country. they're making decisions right now, about where we're going to invest and produce these chips an they're choosing america, because they see we're coming back and leading the way, and that said, since i came to office, our economy has created 10 million jobs. 668 manufacturing jobs. proof that made in america is no longer a slogan. it's a reality. and the chips and science act makes historic investment in companies to build advanced manufacturing facilities here in
america. since i signed it into law last summer, we've seen incredible progress. just here, ibm has invested 20 billion to design and manufacture semiconductors, maintain technology in quantum computers. in syracuse, a company, micron, announced it will invest 100 billion over the next 20 years, to build factories that make special memory chips. you don't have to explain to all of you what a memory chip is. those chips that store information on a smartphone among other things. it will create 50,000 jobs and create an increase in america's share of the chips, increase it by 500%. the largest american investment of its kind ever, ever, ever, ever, and folks, last month, i was outside columbus, ohio, where intel is investing $20 billion to build a semiconductor factory on 100 acres of land
that i dubbed as the field of dreams. it is going to create 10,000 good-paying jobs, union jobs, i might add. [ applause ] >> and a significant number of those jobs, you do not need an advanced degree. you do not need an advanced degree. we have people who are usually wearing blue collars but will be making an average of $120,000 a year. it's about time. i want to remind everybody, i know i get criticized for being the most pro-labor president in history, and there is a reason for that, they're the single best trained, most competent workers in the world. that's the reason why. and by the way. the middle class built this country. but unions built the middle class. that's a fact. folks, global foundries and
qualcomm, they have announced a $4 billion project to produce chips in america that would otherwise be made overseas. qualcomm is one of the largest chip designers and planning to boost production up to 50% in the next five years. in north carolina, a company is investing 5 billion to make chips and devices for electric vehicles and create 1,800 jobs by 2030 in that state. and folks, the future of the chips industry is going to be made in america, that's not hyperbole, that's a fact, it is going to be made in america. and making these chips in america is going to create new businesses for countless small manufacturers and suppliers. into the supply chain that's going to thrive. all because of this law. and many of these good-paying jobs don't require, as i said, a college degree. it matters. all of this is in our economic interest. and it is our national security interest as well. earlier this year, i went down
to lockheed's factory in beam where they're making the javelin missiles that we're supplied to ukraine to defend itself against putin's unprovoked war. and cut off significant pieces of manufacturing needs that they have to make their weapons, they're not getting from the united states, that's a different story. we need semiconductors, not only to make these javelin missiles but also the weapons systems of the future. we have grown to rely even more on advanced chips. unfortunately, we produce zero percent of these advanced chips today. zero percent of these chips that we need today. china is trying to move ahead of us in manufacturing them. it's no wonder literally the chinese communist party actively lobbied against the chips and science act that i've been pushing, in the united states congress. the communist party of china was
lobbying in the united states congress, against passage of this legislation. and unfortunately some of our friends on the other team bought it. the united states has to lead the world in producing these advanced chips. this law is going to make sure that it will. . and to be clear, the chips and science act is not handing out blank checks to companies. i have directed my administration, and i want you to listen to this, to be laser focused on the guardrails that is going to protect taxpayers' dollars. we'll make sure the companies partner with unions, community colleges, technical schools, and offer training and apprenticeships. we're going to make sure the work, small and minority-owned businesses get to participate. we will make sure that companies that take these taxpayers' dollars do not turn around and make investments in china and investments that undermine our supply chains and national security. [ applause ] >> and that's a guarantee.
because in this law, the power to take back any federal funding from these companies, if they don't meet these requirements. that's in the law. the law requires the companies build these semiconductor facilities with prevailing wages, and they do it here. and it will ensure to tens of thousands of new construction jobs, created in, high-paying jobs, more often high-paying union jobs. we're talking about building facilities ten times the size of a football field. and this is just the construction side. we're going to require companies to use these investments for workers in research and development, not to buy back stock or issue dividends. let me say that again. we've got to invest the money. you can't use it to buy back your stock. look, and finally, this law is about more than chips. it's about science as well.
deck decades the united states utes invest 2% of our gdp in research and development that lets us create everything from the internet to the gps. we in the united states invest in research and development. today, we invest less than 1%. about 0.7%. we used to rank number one in the world, in research and development. today, we rank number nine. china's rank was eight a decade ago, and china now is number two. and other countries are closing in fast. so the chips and science act sets us on a path to move up again, to boost our research and development funding back up closer to 1% of our gdp, the fastest single year in 70 years. it's going to make sure we lead the world in industries of the future, from quantum computing to artificial intelligence, advanced bio technology. think of the things and the kind of investments we're going to
deliver. vaccines for cancers. cures for hiv. invents the next big thing that hasn't even been imagined yet. and here is something else that is really important. we will make sure that any company that uses federal research and development funding, to invest in new technologies, has to make the product in america. [ applause ] in america. i mean it. that means we'll invent it in america and make it in america. and we're going to make sure we include all of america. we're going to support entrepreneurs and technology hubs all across the country, including an historic black colleges and universities, minority serving institutions, tribal colleges, we're going to tap into the great competitive advantage of our diverse and talented work force, urban, rural, and suburban, and folks, i've asked many other business
leaders this question, because this is the other team who opposed me on this, said this was the problem, when the united states decides to invest considerable resources in new industry that we need to built up, does it encourage businesses to get in the game or discourage them? the answer is overwhelmingly it encourages businesses to get in the game. including ibm. federal investments attract private sector investments. it creates jobs. it creates industries. and it demonstrates we're all in this together. during a trip to south korea not long ago, i met with the chairman of the sk group, the second largest conglomerate in south korea, that makes everything from semiconductors to large capacity batteries and electric vehicle chargers, pharmaceuticals, they have committed more than $50 billion in investments here in america
and are going to grow the u.s. work force from 20,000 in just three years. i believe companies like ibm are choosing to build in america, because we're better positioned globally than we have been in any time in a long time. this is not hyperbole. we have the best, the most productive workers in the world. we have the best research universities in the world. a dynamic venture capital system. a rule of law that protects intellectual property. in addition, we rode past the bipartisan infrastructure law which i signed by congress members that are here today, with their leadership. and we finally decided we will move up from being number 13 in the world in infrastructure to number one, because guess what, when you have the best infrastructure in the world, companies invest where the infrastructure is and get product to market faster and
cheaper and more reliably. ask any business leader. [ applause ] >> ask any business leader. what is one of the most important factors they consider in deciding where to invest? i promise you, they'll tell you, it is whether they have a means to transport product around the country and the world, and whether they have employees that have a safe and thriving place to live. the bipartisan infrastructure law means better roads and bridges, ports and airports, clean water, high speed internet, for every american. that's going to create millions of jobs all by itself. and make us more competitive worldwide. it's a game changer. one $1,200 billion in infrastructure. let me close with this. i've had a great partner with me, a great leader in this state that is creating jobs and making new york a hub of advanced
manufacturing, and it really does platter, it really does matter because that's one of the reasons why i think you have attracted some of the investment here from other major computer chip businesses that are in the world, in the united states. it matters. it matters. this is about economic security, folks. it's about national security. it's been good-paying jobs you can raise a family on. jobs now. jobs for the future. jobs in every part of our country, and that's what we're going to see here in this factory, in the beautiful hudson valley. people of all ages, all races, all backgrounds, with advanced degrees, to no degrees, working side by side, doing the most sophisticated manufacturing the world has ever seen and i'm showing what i have always believed, i mean this from the bottom of my heart, i have been saying there since i decided to run, there is nothing, nothing,
the nothing is unable to do if we set our mind to it. nothing. nothing. if we do it together. [ applause ] >> i really mean it. you see, you know, when i was walking down to get to the first event, we talked about it. more is going to change for the better in the next ten years than happened in the last 40 years. we're at an inflection point in world history. the changes that take place in the ten years will fundamentally alter the way in which we look at the world and our place in the world. and that's not hyperbole. it's real. and we're better positioned than any nation in the world to own the second quarter of the 21st century. i really mean. that it is because of companies like yours. it is because of innovation. it is because all of your willingness to make it in
america. so god bless you all, and may god protect our troops. thank you very much. [ applause ] >> president biden at ibm, in poughkeepsie, new york, where that company is announcing a $20 billion investment over the next ten years, in r&d, for semiconductor manufacturing, and other advanced manufacturing. this is part of what the president was saying, is the benefit of the chips bill that he signed into law back in august, which gave multiple billion, $52 billion in federal subsidies for advanced manufacturing, like this, and the president is trying to ride high on the job creation, that this is fueling, again, jobs, jobs, jobs, that's what he believes will get him re-elected, if he does run in 2024, and also, he hopes will help democrats in the next 33 days, as we head into the
midterms. also, a note which i thought was interesting, poughkeepsie, hope to where rifles were made for world war one, where electric typewriters were invented and cough drops which he joked he had a few on him as he spoke. joining me from poughkeepsie, from poughkeepsie, new york, is nbc's mike memaly, the president obviously wants to talk about this, and not opec plus. >> yes, that's exactly right, you think about some of the issues that are arising, and most passionate in these midterm elections, you think about abortion rights, immigration, crime, the white house also believes and really knows that the economy, the bread and butter pocketbook issues are going to be what is foremost for so many of those -- >> i'm going to cut you off, mike. i can't hear you over that music. and i think our viewers are probably having a hard time too.
when they turn that down, we will come back to you and it is too hard to hear over the din, and i feel you for you in the rallies. it is hard. chief correspondent ben white and susan page, washington bureau chief. we will go back to mike when it cools off over there. i want to begin with you, robin. we're in such an interesting moment right now. fuel prices have gone down, oil hit below 90 dollars a barrel at one point. the economy, everyone talks about a recession, hasn't hit a recession, the job market is still strong, people have more money at the pump, and in place is still high, and this is all making for a bit of a heady time, going into the midterms. >> it's a nervous time economically, just think back to what the markets were doing last week and everybody talking about bond-magedon and there was a
reprieve and a rally from that and everything is not in the white house's control and he is getting tightened by the fed and jerome powell and the saudis and opec plus is tightening him in, and when he least needs it, 33 days from an election because they think the oil price is not what it should be and they want to get it up. and there is no love lost between biden and mbs. he is a union authority. if you could build a hudson valley authority up and down beau, i think we do it but it is the semiconductor supply the next 33 days or the next three years. >> and try to make sense of it, though. if you are, if you're headed to the polls and you're thinking about the economy, how do you feel right now? >> yeah, you feel mixed. i mean as roben was pointing out, there was some positives, obviously, job creation, a new number tomorrow, it should be another couple hun thousand, but you are still worried about
inflation. with 8%, and this opec move is not going to help. there is one caveat to that, that doesn't go into effect until november, so we haven't seen gas prices move up much since the announcement. oil popped a little bit on the initial announcement and will likely go higher, once it is in effect. but you are, as a voter, quite concerned about the prices that you're paying for other stuff, pretty much everything, and you know, gas could go back up again, and be a problem, for biden. and they had been riding a little bit high on people's minds, moving to the abortion issue, to all of trump's scandals, the overturning of roe, and we've seen in multiple polls, democrats better than they were, sometimes slightly ahead of republicans, this is obviously not helpful to their cause, and it is also frankly an embarrassment to this white house, and would be hard pressed not to do this, meeting with mbs, that roben referred to, absolutely no love lost there, particularly khashoggi related
and allegations of what he did, so political ramifications -- >>. we remember the image of the president with mbs and he said he wanted to make saudi arabia a pariah state after the killing and dismembering of jamal khashoggi but he went over there and he met with him, and there was supposed to be political advantages to that, are we seeing them? >> yeah, there's some criticism of being willing to do that, and being willing to have that fist bump that you showed, and while there were the saudis at that moment, increased production slightly, really not much to show for that meeting. at this point, and you know, certainly economic concerns, that created in this country in terms of inflation, this also creates an international concern, and it aligns, the opec nations with more closely with russia, it provides something of a reprieve for russia, when it comes to their own oil prices, so this is all the way around a
negative development for this administration. >> what sort of tools does this administration have at its disposal to push back against saudi arabia? there's some advocating that we say no to any more arms dealing to saudi arabia, that we cut off those contracts. >> yeah, and we've heard some calls to cut the significant military aid, we now provide to saudi arabia, but there are of course, these, one reason foreign policy is so complicated, that every action has a reaction and there is a fairly complex network of reasons why we want to maintain relations for the saudis and it makes it hard for this administration or other administrations to do things with the saudis when we think what they are doing is wrong. >> and why would they want to go against the lobbies by the united states, why would they want to burn this president? >> it is in their economic interest to keep the price of oil up and especially if we're heading into a recession that
might drive down demand, an drive down the price of oil, that is not good for the saudi economy, so you know, maybe all politics it loce -- loce until some ways. >> let's talk about what is going on right now. he's obviously up there, ben, because this is a big investment by ibm. or you tell me, is m-i correct me if i'm wrong to say it is a big investment, $20 billion in the next few years, and 100 billion by a company in upstate new york, micron, will this create jobs? when will we feel the effects of this? automatic. >>. >> it will take some time. the construction and research and development on semiconductors and spending some time from the hudson valley area, i live down the road from poughkeepsie, and it definitely needs the help, it needs better paying jobs, it needs upgrades and this will actually make a difference, i think, long term, and part of a longer term strategy that the white house has in place to not allow us to
be completely dependent on china for these important semiconductors. we saw it in the inflation. it killed us during the pandemic. when we couldn't get the semiconductors for cars. so it is not just window dressing. this is a real thing. the u.s. has to do it. and they're hoping to do. and the investments will help with that. but it is not something that is going to help on the midterms. and theoretically could, between now and 2024. but it is going to be years, not months before we see some of these high-paying jobs created and all of the benefits reaped from the investments. >> roben, expand on that. >> well, you know, it had been a pushback, this is ibm, i'm not saying that it is kind of rust belt city, but it made many decisions over the past 25 years to divest out of r&d, and get out of manufacturing, to lighten kind of its hardware load and everything and to double down on professional services and consulting, and indeed, it derives a ton of the cash flow from a chunky dividend, not r&d and i think symbolically by
showing up at ibm and you can talk about union culture and talk about the hudson valley but it is not exactly the state of the art right now. it is a decent-sized deal. but you're talking about taiwan semi. you're talking about the chinese breathing down your neck. you talked about sk in south korea. are you really going to get a renaissance of high-tech manufacturing in the united states? to say nothing else of critical battery technology. there is a true arms race that is about to happen over the next five to ten years, rare earths, everything is involved, and i'm thot exactly convinced that ibm is a central player to that. you know, no offense to anybody, but he has to appear somewhere, with a union-friendly crowd, with schumer and with governor hochul and you understand the optics of it. >> all right, thank you, everyone, for starting us off. some of my favorite people. roben, ben, susan, appreciate it. sorry that mike memoli, it was too hard up there in poughkeepsie to hear him. again, we are 33 days from the midterms, and polling is tightening.
that is because republicans have unleashed a barrage of negative ads that hammer democrats on crime. in wisconsin, incumbent republican senator ron johnson has pulled ahead of democratic challenger mandela barnes, after trailing for weeks. and in pennsylvania, republican dr. mehmet oz is now within most surveys margins of error with lieutenant governor john fetterman, that is a change for the open senate seat. and republicans are hoping the strategy will also help in georgia, where senate candidate herschel walker is back on the campaign trail today. walker's attention is likely somewhere else. he is navigating what could be the worse week yet of his scandal-plagued candidacy and scrambling to respond to another bombshell allegation, the daily beast is now reporting that the woman who claims walker paid her for her abortion in 2009 is the mother of one of his children. walker has denied the allegation
saying quote there is no truth to this or any other daily beast report. and today at a campaign stop, he blamed the democrats, democrats for the allegations. >> just like what i just said, a democrat is desperate for the seat, and this seat is important. and they're very desperate for the seat. i love my family. i always love my family. i'm going to win this race. >> joining me now from georgia is nbc news washington correspondent yamiche alcindor, she asked walker that question. all right, what is he saying? not just about this, but also about his son who has come out and called him a liar and said that he should not be running? >> i am here in georgia, a deep red part of the state, where herschel walker decided to come and have a campaign event at a saw mill. you heard it yourself. herschel walker is continuing to deny the allegations that he paid for an abortion for a woman who was carrying his child.
he told me specifically that he believed his family is being used by the democrats specifically, and that he thinks that this is really all a plan to try to get him to stop running and to not win that u.s. senate seat, which is of course in a tight race here with rafael warnock. and we should remind people of course that herschel walker was talking and said if this had happened, there would be nothing to be ashamed of. well, i also questioned him about that statement, how do you swear that, since you're an opponent are of abortion and denied that claim and he said this is not something that he said, that this is something to be ashamed of. and he is said to have been lying and targeted because of his political ambitions, it is really coming down to the fact that voters here are watching all of this very intensely, and republicans are, in this state, are a little wobbly now, the lieutenant governor saying they're a little worried about all of this information, while national republicans are continuing to stick with him. >> yamiche, the national republicans sticking with him,
what are georgians saying? i know we have a debate next week in savannah, georgia. i'm going to be there for that. what are georgians saying about these allegations against walker? i know the race is so tight there. have you heard anyone change their mind about him? >> well, katy, that is the big question. will this october surprise actually impact this race in georgia? which republicans see as critical to taking back control of the senate. herschel walker held this campaign rally i think because he wants to out there and wants to be talking and wanted to talk to workers and talking to voters and wanted to be on the campaign trail. and i have been talking to voters who have their thoughts on all of this. take a listen. >> i prefer people who are principled, who do the things they're advocating. so, but i don't think it will impact my vote. >> the only reason herschel walker is on this ballot right now is because he supports trump. if you support trump, you can have any kind of morals in this
country. >> i'm voting for herschel. i mean he made a mistake, but right now i'm more interested in what somebody is going to do for me than slinging mud. >> all politicians to a certain degree have some type of background that we all don't know about, and things that are in the dark that always come to the light. >> so there you have it. voters telling me that really, this is not changing their minds and the bottom line, i couldn't find a single person, who is changing their mind. if you didn't like herschel walker before, a lot of people told me it is because of the domestic abuse allegations and this makes it worse. if you're a herschel walker fan, people told me they're not changing their mind. >> the question is does it make people say stay home and i don't want to get involved in this? does it suppress sox vote? >> thank you so much. and meanwhile in arizona, blake masters and senator mark kelly will face each other tonight in their only debate. kelly has a sizable lead in the poms. but the race is very much still within reach for republicans.
which is why republican liz cheney is in arizona speaking out. but not there to campaign for masters the republican, she is there to campaign against him. saying he and the republican candidate for governor, kari lake are dangerous, and that other republicans should vote for democrats instead. joining me now is nbc's vaughn hillyard, following those races from phoenix, arizona. tell us what's going on. >> you know, for liz chainy, and this is the situation, when we're talking about her own primary, less than two months ago, she got walloped in her own state by nearly 39 percentage points among republican voters. and so that's a question, what kind of impact would she have on some of those conserve tives that are very much anti-trump, very much pro decertification of a fair and accurate election results, and as well as independents. can she come into places like arizona and try to woo some of those folks over to the likes of
the democrat running for governor against kari lake, the republican condition. at the same time it is notable she was there with the mccain institute, not actually on the campaign trail with any of the democrats. she hasn't outright endorsed any of the candidates. instead, speaking out more against the, in her word, the threats and the danger that the likes of some of these election republicans pose. take a listen to her yesterday. >> if you care about democracy, and you care about the survival of our republic, then you need to understand, we all have to understand that we cannot give people power who have told us that they will not honor elections. elections are the foundation of our republic. and peaceful transfers of power are the foundation of our republic. and we must have elected officials in both parties who understand and honor that duty and that responsibility. >> and the stakes are height
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recovery effort there is finally beginning, and residents are finally getting to see what has been left behind. joining me now, from pine island, is jesse kirsch. what does it look like there? >> yes, so we started to see a better flow of traffic here, i want to show you what the cajun navy has set up. they have food and water, they're piling up supplies here, just over the bridge, and they said they are continuing to have boats at the ready to keep bringing supplies over in case the bridge backs them up. when we traveled over here earlier, the bridge was still under construction, there was an excavator moving rocks to either side of the bridge, and so they only have one lane of traffic open. you can imagine that was slowing down what is the only one main road on to this island. at one point earlier there was a checkpoint over here. that has gone away. which is helping improve the flow of traffic. that is the mainland for context behind me, so the mainland florida is that way and there's a bridge just ahead, on this
road, and it had been broken up in the mid of the storm. so people were not able to access it by road. so people have been getting over here by boat. we've seen helps coming in. and there are still helicopters on the scene here. this is a parking lot for a grocery store, and you can see on the grass, in front of it, two choppers right there, and up the road from us, we saw a helicopter as well, that was landing in the middle of the street, we spoke with the cajun navy about the challenges they're facing right now, here's part of what they told us. >> driving around talking to residents, what are you hearing from them? what do they need right now? >> we're here. we're here. cell phone towers are not helping right now. >> not really. >> snail mail. people in vehicles talking to people. i have to talk to him rather than text or email. >> the storm like this set you back decades. >> 100% man. >> power issues, and telecom issues and fuel issues as well on pine island.
>> jesse, thank you very much. hurricane ian's death toll now stands at 131, which would make it the deadliest storm to hit florida since 1935. you know why, it's climate change, and ian had all of the characteristics of a storm driven by it, and warmer water, and that rapidly intensifying the winds, which rapidly intensified the amount of water it moved. the storm surge, the rainfall, the inland flooding, that is what was so deadly. and while florida was already pretty ready for the hurricane force winds, it was not as ready for the water. in fact, the national hurricane center says water is the direct cause of 90% of tropical cyclone deaths in this country. joining me now is nbc news meteorologist bill karins, so it is climate change, and what did it do, and what's it mean going forward? well, with ian, we have the research and in the months and years ahead, and they will tell us how much it was attributed to that rapid intensification.
87 degree water temperatures by the way that wednesday morning. right when it intensified. so the first half of this hurricane season, it was really quiet. we weren't talking about anything. that's because the weather pattern was really unusual. an ocean heat wave in the north atlantic, that disrupted the weather pattern and sent drier air and wind shear to that development region where we typically get the storms but when the peak of the season arrives in september, that's when everything changed, as you would expect, and that's why ian was able to form in the caribbean and then very powerful over the warm water. >> what about the last six years? have we had a more destructive period for hurricanes? >> we were researching this. the records go back to the mid 1850s, and the satellite era, and more reliable data is really from about the mid 1900s, so this is over the last six years. all of the major hurricanes. 2017, we had harvey, we had irma, and then in 2018, of course michael was a category five, and then laura, and then of course ian, we had seven
major hurricane landfalls in the gulf coast area in the last six years, the only time in recorded history ha we equalled this is going back to the 1945 to 1950 season, where florida had four major hurricanes in florida alone in that six year period. the next year in 1951, there were no u.s. major laufrlds. so if we have a major hurricane again next year, it would be unprecedented in recorded history. >> let's hope we don't. talk to me about climate change and how it is affecting everything and it is not just what we're seeing in florida. i mean we're seeing the effects of climate change all over the country, all over the world. >> it is good to put it in perspective, what we know and what we don't know, there is still a ton of research being done. a chart that shows different weather events and we can get a better idea of what climate change is doing to our daily weather by how big it is. if it is like a heat wave or a cold or extreme event, those are large scale events. we have a very good understanding of climate change influence, and we can actually detect the influence. but when we get down to smaller things, it's harder, like
tornadoes, or even, you know, wildfires, tropical cyclones is kind of down here in the middle to what we understand and what we don't, and we can relate to climate change. here is what we flow. more rapid intensification, you get warmer water and intensification, and pretty simple with stronger hurricanes. wetter hurricanes, tax the atmosphere can hold more moisture so we can get bigger rainfall events and because the sea level is going up, then you get the storm surge on top of it. so we know the storm surge will be higher in the years ahead. as far as what we don't know yet, and this one surprises people, we can't connect the increase in the number of hurricanes globally. we haven't seen. that even throw we know the planet is warming up and the oceans are warming, we haven't had a higher number and some studies say we have less hurricanes, but the ones that do form have a better chance of getting very strong and there is no correlation to the size of the storms, and there's no correlation to the climate change, and if we get more landfall. >> bill karins, thank you very much. do not go anywhere. we have breaking news after the break. r the break. 5g network, associated british ports can now precisely orchestrate nearly
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"washington post" national security reporter devlin barrett, walk us through what you know. >> this investigation was opened in 2018, it's been going on a long time, and it's been supervised since the biden administration began, by a holdover u.s. attorney from the trump administration, in delaware. and what we're told is that agents believe, and have believed for a number of months, that they have a chargeable case against hunter biden, but it's important to remember, charging decisions are not made by agents. charging decisions are made by prosecutors at the justice department. >> and they will decide this, these crimes that we're talking about, what are the details of the alleged crimes regarding taxes and regarding a gun purchase? >> well, on the tax question, it's, we don't know a lot of the specifics, but we know it is on the sort of general problem of allegedly failing to report significant amounts of income. and on the gun issue, it's a little more complicated in that when a person buys a gun, they
fill out a, from a licensed dealer, they fill out some paperwork and they have to say a number of things and they have to be truthful in those statements, and the allegation or concern is that in 2018, when hunter biden bought a gun, he said he did not have a substance problem, and was not addicted to drugs, when in fact, in his own auto biography, he was using drugs quite significantly in that time period and he has since said he has gotten clean and beat than addiction. >> does this have anything to do with the laptop? >> it is unclear. we can't tell at this point how important or unimportant the laptop has been to this federal investigate. just to back up, for folks who don't refer, there was a lot of to do just before the 2020 election that a laptop that hunter biden supposedly dropped off at a repair shop in delaware had been turned over to the fbi and republicans made a great
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