hello everyone, i'm alicia menendez. this hour, when at all costs -- it appears to be the gop game plan was just weeks to the midterms, now admitting the quiet part out loud, that the party does not want you to access abortion care before one of their own, well you, know. plus freshly thousand a trump document investigation, and a report about the former president upstairs do with the documents it took to mar-a-lago. and later, then just rhetoric, online chatter about a civil war lit up following the mar-a-lago rate.

now officials fear a d.c. resurgence. plus with a month to the midterms, actress america ferrera and what it will take a battle that in a vote. this is american voices. we begin this hour with new allegations of the republican georgia senate candidate, herschel walker. the new york times spoke with a woman that claimed that walker paid for her abortion in 2009. she thought the time that walker it so to have another abortion two years later. she says she refused, and that resulted in them and in their relationship. she also says, quote, as a father, he has done nothing. he does exactly what the court says, and that is it. he has to be held responsible just like the rest of us. if you are going to run for office, you need to only life, the daily beast first reported that walker allegedly paid for his extra friends abortion in 2009. nbc news has not independently confirmed that reporting. walker has denied the allegations. let's make something crystal

clear, the issue is not whether walker paid for an abortion, that is a private matter. who supports a national ban on abortion without exceptions. it is reproductive care for me, none for the. and as republican leaders continue to back it, and it shows really clear picture of what this is all about. the daily show summed it up this week. >> there is no perfect person, no way. >> he will do more to change the senate, just by the sheer presence by his confidence, by his deep commitment to christ. he has been through a long tough prayer. he had a lot concussions coming out of football. he suffered ptsd. >> i don't care if herschel awkward paid to abort and danger baby eagles. i want to control of the senate. >> you have to love it when i say the quiet part out loud. i love it. abortion is totally unforgivable unless i need to do it. and fact, in fact what you are saying is you are fine with an

abortion if you need to win a senate race. a senate race. but you are not found with a woman needing it to save her own life. >> the head-scratcher here is the insistence that walker is somehow still the right choice for a christian republican voters. walker's opponent, is an actual pastor. raphael warnock has been doing the work as a senator for the state for two years. what does walker really have to offer the republican party? here is how eddie put it on our air earlier this week? >> herschel walker's only here because of his name that is a black man running -- raphael warnock. and that's the only reason why he's here and they are playing on race that these people can vote for someone who will implement negative policy that will negatively impact for people and vulnerable people. they don't have to feel like they're being racist because they're voting for a black man. and so deeply cynical, the moment where and it is profoundly dark. >> with me now, michelle

goodwin is a chancellor professor of law at the university of california irvine. host of on the issues with michelle goodwin. podcast and author of the book, policing the womb and invisible woman and the criminalization of motherhood. also i'm, a former republican congressman from -- is also an msnbc political analyst. always good to see you, both michelle. i will start with you. this is about power. we know this is about power, i don't even know that we can call it hypocrisy because hypocrisy has always been pretty clear. they want this ride to be available to them, it is others who they want to talk. talk about the power play, that this is. both at the micro and the macro level? >> well this is also historical power play. and the hypocrisy goes back to the time of antebellum slavery in the united states. thomas jefferson had children by sally humans. a woman who would be enslaved, that it took to paris when she was 13 years old and he kept

his children enslaved. and so when you look at these kind of histories of power that are associated with subordinating reproductive freedom. it is a long legacy in our country. and as you said, reproductive rights and freedom for me and not for the. that is a legacy that is long in this country. but what it means in the backdrop of where we are is that it's a debate proposition. and means that some people who are living in states like california, new york will get the kind of reproductive freedom and care that herschel walker wanted for his girlfriend. but for men who are living in his state and women living in mississippi and other places like that, they are shut out. it is a debate proposition when you look at the high maternal the title 80 rates in those states. >> right, the stakes are so high. here is the thing david, you heard what eddie glob said there. you yourself on our air have called walker a vessel for trumpism. you have some republican in georgia, backtracking on walker

tonight. here's what georgia lieutenant governor, jeff duncan told nbc's allie raffa a short time ago. take a listen. >> we love donald trump dominate the seat and had picked somebody that he wanted to win and not necessarily his best to represent georgia and the senate. we have been here before right? we have watched him train wreck our election process. they watched him run on roughshod across to u.s. senate seats, that we are trying to stay in office. then we watch them for millions on brian kemp. we have seen this act before, it is painful on this is part of the human process. >> i mean death right, is this evening david and are we finally hearing them connect all of the thoughts on how they got here short term? >> george is an interesting case because he is absolutely right and trumpism is really failed at last series and the state republicans historically have performed well. have won those seats. i think the reason you're seeing republican backtracking herschel worker, it's because of how poorly they have handled

this last week politically. they are sticking with the denial and there is four weeks to go. every other day, another shoe drops. the denial is not going to work. that is what's crushing herschel walker in this moment. look to your, point it's not about the issue of abortion. it's about the hypocrisy of herschel walker saying one thing. and his personal life doing another. the fascinating thing is that instead of denial, he could own the story. photos are somewhere between forgiving, and who cares on some of these issues. but herschel walker's not sundown and said look, i acknowledge this was my personal journey. it looks inconsistent, here is the reason that i have arrived at what i am now. he is not doing that. he is denying it and it's just not working for him. nor should it because of the hypocrisy. >> i would argue david, the ground has been softened and primed for him by donald trump. it is hard to watch the past week walker not thing back to 2016 when trump's moral feelings were ignored by

evangelicals. i want to redo something from anti about their who writes it's go to anybody who can see that white evangelicals who have a symbiotic relationship with the republican party are not looking for candidates that are pristine, only those who think can win. nobody should expect evangelicals or their candidates to live by what they want, the rest of us still live by. i mean your thoughts? >> at least, i count myself among the white evangelicals demographic. i think that's absolutely true. i will never understand the direction of the republican party, just as i will not understand the direction of the evangelical church. the last six years and i think there's a lot of people, activation of taillight. there's a few people within the evangelical community that are questioning what has happened between the party and christiane 80. there is no explaining, it's a biography that trumpism brought on. and i think look, this is a moment for the evangelical movement to self examine and ultimately, have to apologize to further direction that went with trumpism and candidates like herschel walker.

>> michelle, all happening in an environment where abortion rights are under attack. there were however, two defensive wins for abortion access this week. abortion bans temporarily put on hold in arizona, in ohio. how big of a deal are those winds. are you even characterizing them at this point as winds? >> well they are significant but we have to keep our eye beyond the distractions of herschel walker. this is the feeling of our democracy that we see right now. last year, supreme court term showed us just how little confident americans have in this court. and that it's a court that's willing to become outcome, determinative we know when those cases reached the supreme court. what will be the outcome? you know this november will be a very significant time for our country. many are calling it rove ember. i think that makes a lot of sense. kansas was quite significant for our come vinny. and i will say thank goodness we now have justice ketanji brown jackson on the court.

the first putt woman in over 230 years for court. and, so i think that it's really important these reproduce in those states. i think we have to keep our eyes on the prize in the bigger picture here. and ultimately, we need a third reconstruction in this country. >> i love every time he said that to me, make it a bigger picture. i do want to ask you about brown jackson. her debut of course at the supreme court this week. at one point, she explained that the constitution itself is not color blind. pick a listen. i 43. in clause the 14th amendment, the 15th amendment in a race conscious way. that they were in fact, trying to ensure that people have been discriminated against, the freed man, during the record traction period were actually bought equal to everyone else in society. the legislator who introduced the amendment said that quote, unless the constitution should

restrain them those states will all, i fear keep up with discrimination and crushed to death the hated friedman. >> i, mean it is more than a thwart and the side of the conservative justice. and somebody was giving us a full picture, a full scope of how these decisions have been made to date. >> yes well, once he was exposing is very sloppy originalism interpretation. very sloppy textualism, interpretation. people have been able to hopscotch over the constitution. the reality is that framers of our constitution, included those who drafted the reconstruction amendment. the 13th amendment, 14th amendment and 15th amendment. while we are at it, the 19th amendment. these amendments that were specifically about freedom and equality beyond white men. the reconstruction amendments specifically directed at endings say labor-y, abolishing

it, creating equal opportunity for black people in the country. it was specifically in regard to black people, this notion of we've had a color blind constitution is something that is just bounded and ignorance really. >> michelle and david, thank you both for getting us started. next, new reporting about the mar-a-lago documents, former president trump may have hoped to do with them. plus chatter about a civil war on the horizon, online, our national security analyst frank tells us just how worrying the trend is. but, first russia louis is standing by with a look at the other big stories, we are watching this hour at msnbc. richard? >> alicia, start with an update on north korea. launched another ballistic missile toward the sea of japan on saturday. this is the seventh missile the dictatorship has fired in just the past two weeks. friday, the united states imposing additional sanctions on north korea. over these recent launches. russian forces were set back after an explosion partially destroyed the 12 mile bridge linking crimea peninsula with the russian mainland. three people were killed in

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proposing? what does it tell us about how he views the rule of, law's responsibility and all of it? >> it has a very extortionate feel to it whether or not it would technically amount to criminal conduct as an entirely different question. it speaks to trump's mindset, it speaks to trump, to what he knew because he had in his possession. and that point in time, and i think something else that's really important in this reporting alicia, the fact that his aides did not go any further with this. they knew it was, wrong they knew it was a bad idea. ultimately, this becomes evident that doj can use against trump in a prosecution. >> i would like my producers to put extortion e and one of these banners. not really sums it up so well. luke, this week we learned the doj thinks trump might still be holding on to other government documents. how is that impacting the justice department investigation as well the

damage assessment that was requested by congress? >> right well it shows we are not yet even close to done here. if both the national archives, congress and the justice department believe donald trump still has additional records that he should overturn to the archives. in his possession and the justice department has told that to trump's lawyers. i am personally waiting to see where the next search will occur. i know the justice department has been very methodical, how they approach this. archives has been very methodical. they have negotiated at length for months and months. but eventually in mar-a-lago they felt he needed to have a search warrant and have agents come and search the property. and if they believe there are more documents out there. where is the next property where there will be a search? that is the next shoe that i'm waiting to drop. >> i am curious from, you sort of what you think the

conversations around that would look like. i also want you to weigh in on this element, trump's legal team wanting the supreme court to intervene with a special master view of documents seized at mar-a-lago. and whether or not there is an actual end goal or if it is as it often is in the case of trump and his legal action. an attempt to stall. >> it is always an effort to stall. their whole goal here is to delay the inevitable for as long as possible. hope that they get a lucky break. that is played out pretty well for the former president. so many times in the context of the legal system. that's why so many americans question whether the legal sufficient, system and the criminal justice system are sufficient. really to confront trump with his misdeeds and hold him accountable. but in this case, i think he is absolutely correct. there are conversations going on at doj about what comes next. you can't execute an additional search warrant unless you have probable cause to believe that

you will find evidence or fruits of crime in a specific location. and this notion that there was communication to trump's team of these concerns, almost makes you wonder if doj is not using in age-old strategy called tickling the wire. sometimes to do it when you have a wiretap up, no indication that that was true here. but what you can do is go to defense council or defendant with information about something that you are looking at. to see what they do next. to see if there is activity, if there is movement, there is a flurry of conversations and connections. especially if you have people on the inside that you are talking to, or informants or at least witnesses who will talk to you. it can always be very intriguing to see what happens next. after a leak of information of doj like this one. >> so look, i always remind myself, i remind the viewers, all of this is happening along multiple tracks. one of those tracks, the january six committee.

next hearing, this thursday what should we expect? >> i'm told we should expect significant new information. i understand we have some surprises, for this to work. i don't know specifically what those are. it could be in the newspaper already. but we do know a couple of things that they will present. we do know they represent some of the evidence of the team from filmmakers who were trailing roger stone. for a number of months. and those include some text messages that he exchange with leaders of the oath keepers and proud boys. there is also nuclear text messages seeking a pardon for january 6th. i think we see some of that and i am told, it will try to accomplish at least two things. one, we focus the country's attention back on what donald trump did and trying to overturn the 2020 election. and then also present evidence of ongoing threats to democracy that we are seeing sort of

election deniers. spread out across the country and try to control a different government and weavers of democracy. >> definitely a tall order toys, high-ranking proud boys. remember jeremy put -- to seditious conspiracy for his role and the attack on the capitol. i want to you think his cooperation could help doj and its investigation into january 6th? >> well they clearly contemplate that he will be cooperating with the government because it came out not one of the benefits to him from the plea that is under consideration would be the possible insertion of him into the witness protection program. and that suggesting that somebody at doj thinks the folks that he would testify against have a real high potential for violence. that he would be a great danger if he cooperated and then remained and public circulation. not suspects that doj assesses his potential cooperation as very valuable and an insider

witness like this, somebody has played a leadership role and the proud boys could very likely testify at a high-level. connections which is of course the question that we all have? right how engage with a malicious of people who are engaged with the former president? there connections that went into those, more rooms at the willard hotel? how did these people know what to expect on january six and what was a level of coordination? this could be very important in the long run. >> joyce and, look thank you both as always, thank you to my team for getting that extortion up. next, what was once whispered in dark corners, now trending online. why the far-right talk of civil war might be more than just bluster. plus, the bombing of the bridge that connects crimea to russia, new tonight. ukraine's president is talking about it. about it or baby wipes, or powders, try the cooling, soothing relief or preparation h. because your derriere deserves expert care.

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government takeover. the five people charged with seditious conspiracy, writing on election day, 2020 quote i am going to go on a killing spree. pelosi first. both keepers found later responding, quote they aren't getting through this without a civil war. new york times report top civil war is searching again ahead of the midterms, far-right republicans using the rhetoric online and at rallies. in august, for example those really researchers found a single tweet about civil war reached over 17 million people. joining me now, msnbc national security -- he is a former director for counter terrorism at the fbi. frank when these folks are saying civil war, what do they mean? they all made the same thing or do they mean different things when they use that language? >> this is the challenge. trying to have the meeting behind depending on who is using it is one of the challenges at law enforcement.

and the intelligence community is facing. because for some, it's a reference to the culture wars, not an actual, physical kinetic battle. but for many others, it is an evolution or one could say a devolution of the concept of culture war now becoming a physical war in their minds. because they have lost so called, the so-called culture war. the question is as we measure a language and treated as magic radicalization and words matter and the fact that those who analyzed language are saying there is an escalating use of the phrase civil war and i've seen it rapidly approaching the number of references to culture war. it may eventually surpass it. the question we have to ask ourselves as what are we doing about it and why are we here. so those who have been radicalized, thinking that violence is the only solution remaining are getting this from

leaders. even currently in office and those formally and office. who are telling them that this is a moment of desperation. this is all that is love to do and then, on the flip side there is nobody coming out and condemning this. that they listen to. so those two factors, radicalization by leaders. other leaders failing to come out and call it out. that they deemed credible. creating this environment where, we are at a trigger away from violence. as we approach the midterms, there is a genuine concern that people who believe that the election outcome is rigged, or elections were cheating. people out of their votes, those they wanted to win aren't winning. the lone actor, the one or two guys who say it is time to act up, is they are extremely difficult for law enforcement to counter. >> congressman unconstitutional lawyer jamie raskin points out

that the oath keepers had no right to storm the capital, even on trump's behalf. take a listen. >> the president doesn't have the authority to just turn the proud boys or the oath keepers or any other private militia into an official state militia. those are our gonads by the state, the constitution says, the officers are appointed by the state governments and they exist under the discipline created by congress. so, none of it makes any sense. >> i don't know we expected it to make sense, either coming from these militia groups, or coming from the former president, but can you talk a little bit about how this kind of militia became normalized in the first place on the far-right? >> this is their into interpretation of the constitution. they still believe that they constitute a standing militia, that is the people that need to remain armed and overthrow a tyrannical government. the irony is that they have

introduced tyranny into the situation themselves. we have a standing militia, it's called the national guard. it's been well-established and effectively utilized, they don't want to listen to that anymore. so we are facing a situation, receiving former national security adviser, flynn, he believes governors have the right to declare war. that is not, of course, constitutional. but he is making that up because he believes that's where we are headed. >> the oath keepers, they offer a pretty clear example of online rhetoric escalating into real life violence. what does it take for extremists to cross that line? >> across a line like what happened on january 6th? >> to go from it to something that they talk about sitting at a desk with their online friends to all of a sudden putting on a mile in the car, having a plan, and having it become this real world plan, plus action? >> so we've seen it happen, we

have a case model, here it's called january 6th, and the proud boys, even the proud boy with the most senior proud boys, jeremy petito, who has pled guilty, he actually testified to the january 6th committee as to the effect of donald trump on radicalizing and calling to action the proud boys. that stand -- and move them to act toward violence. it doesn't take much, and we need to look forward to not only the midterm, but the day may be coming when their leader, donald trump, is indicted by the federal government, or some state government. if that happens, that may be the trigger, alicia, that moves at least some to violence. >> frantic, lucy that as always, i see a article like this, i tonight, we have to speak to frank for clues. eta q so much for taking the time to be with us. next, finding creative ways to engage with americas houses growing block, my conversation with the american actress

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leading to damage on that bridge causing some tankers to light fire on of freight train. no claim of responsibility so far, in fact, and advisor to president zelenskyy, now pointing the finger in the direction of the russian federation suggesting that they bombed their own bridge. saying that the truck in question was coming from the russians side of the bridge. this, just hours after he appeared on twitter celebrating this explosion as pretty much everyone in ukraine at this point. he tweeted, crimea, the bridge, the beginning, everything illegal must be destroyed. everything stolen must be return to ukraine. everything occupied by russia must be expelled. this is critical to the war effort on two fronts essentially. first, this is a huge bridge that cost billions of dollars. it was built in 2018.

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celebration of hispanic excellence. white house staff welcome a group of influential latinas, indigenous communities known as -- include celebrities, social influencer, hometown heroes. their aim is to quote elevate, celebrate and inspire latinas to amplify their voices and actions on behalf of themselves in their communities. and that is important work, especially ahead of an election. there is no denying the looting of owners will play a pivotal role in this year's midterms. no they still like behind other groups and it comes to getting to the polls. this by making up 17% of the u.s. population, they made up 11% of the electorate and 2020. groups like -- want to shrink that gap. actress america for help cool found the group. i sat down with her earlier this week.

also with us, actress coy bridges, you might know from the new show maggie on hulu. and actress, known for her role in the film doctor strange and the multi verse of madness. take a listen. >> you look at democrats numbers with latinos, they are softer than democrats. you want them to be. but republicans have not been able to seal the deal either. why do you think that is? >> you can take the latino vote for granted. the lincoln vote is not a monolith and i think that it has a lot to do with understanding the base and understanding what matters to them. and meeting a community where they are at. you know what we learned that one of the biggest obstacles and latinas engaging with elections. it's confidence, it's the ability to believe that a, your vote matters or be that you even need to know how to vote. now you know enough to go into the booth and vote your interest, your family's interest. these are actually the obstacles that stand in the way for our community. so you can up all the registration drives that you,

want until culture and storytelling about who we are in whatever with his begins to change. you are fighting an uphill battle. help us tell boundaries about the community, invest in. as investing as the teller own stories. there are so many solutions and like hiring a taco truck two months before an election to get us out is like not working. >> we look forward to this upcoming election, will play what role are latinos voice to play? >> i hope to play a bigger role. i think not of us are getting out and voting. and i think a part of the issue is you know people feel like oh, i am not educated enough on the issues, oh my voice as a matter or oh you know i am just one person. and we just cannot have that attitude anymore. so if we can just you know get let people know that your voice does matter, and we want you out there and we need to out, there it is just how we get democracy going. that is the whole point. >> you know i think about the point that coy made about

people feeling as though they're important. that they belong and spaces, as much as i think that's true for latinas, i think it's true for young people. the sort of sense of i am important, my voice matters. i wonder as somebody who is a little bit younger. just how you think about that? >> man they comes to the people who came before me and without them, they're using their voices and getting the rooms where the big decisions are made. i probably will not be able to have the opportunities that i've had. and definitely would not even able to play the first latinas queer superhero. who was 13. that's pretty insane. >> i have been thinking about shovel a lot, one 87 news to this. point a political activation for you. i think about the moment that we are in where lines are being drawn. where you know migrants are coming to this country and being put on buses and planes. where there are kids being told which books they can and cannot

read. and i wonder if your personal experience, what happens when a child finds themselves on one side of that line? >> i was about nine or ten years old when prop one 87 was up for a vote. and california and made a political sized me because i do not have a choice. i realize that in that moment, i don't get the choose whether or not my life is affected by politics. you know, other people have made that decision for me. whether we decide to sit it out or to engage. our actions, our defining the world we are living in. and what's incredible about these midterm elections right now in fact, latinas have the power to decide where power in the house and the senate goes. like we have that exponential influence in racism and states. where the stakes are super

high. the stakes are whether the kids feel safe sitting in their classrooms. whether you know people can migrate with dignity. whether women have a right to choose what happened so bodies. picture issue, no whether your kids get to learn about their own history and their classrooms. there is so much at stake. it impacts us than our children and future generations. latinos are in a moment where we can decide what our role is going to be and deciding the future of this country for us and for our children. and you know, we like to blame the latino community for and not showing up right? it cannot be soon enough if i never see another headline of latinos did not show up. i think that what is not spoken about enough is the fact that our communities are not engaged in the same way by races, by candidates, by organizations, by elected officials. people like to come around every election year and not corridor and say oh a law, your

vote matters. but to our lives matter? to you? outside of a three-month window to your election? and gauges, engage our community in meaningful ways. that isn't just telling us that we matter but showing us, our education matters, our businesses matter. i think that we believe the stories that are told about us. we believe the stories that we tell us. we can begin to tell different story to ourselves, and other people can begin to believe and tell a different story about who we are. we are buttery studies, we are powerful, we have the ceos of our households. we make decisions about the american economy, every single day. that's the message that we are not getting enough of. we can all play a role in changing the way that this incredibly important part of the american electorate engages in democracy. because without, them our democracy is not functioning. >> my thanks to america, social,

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today. i am ali salmon and does, i will see you back here tomorrow, 6 pm eastern for more american voices. for now, as always, i headed over to my colleague and friend, ayman joaquin. hey, alicia, thank you for the poignant reminder. i think people are losing sight of how important climate is, not in terms of what it means for our pain, but how it's impacting communities along the coast. thank you so much, it's good to see you. enjoy the rest of your evening. good evening to you at home. welcome to ayman. tonight, what is he still hiding? new allegations that trump might have kept more documents from the national archives. then on the trail, congressman pat ryan joins us live to discuss his campaign stop with president biden. and then justin -- justice jackson's moment. we finally hear from the new scotus justice on one of the most consequential cases of the new courts to turn. we have that in a whole lot more, i am ayman mohyeldin, let's get started. ♪ ♪ ♪ >>