thank you so much for letting us into your homes for another week of shows. which during these extraordinary times, we are so grateful. ari, happy friday. >> i feel like this is what we've been doing. >> it was a pleasure to share a shift with you last night. >> a shift? yes. >> shift work. >> i hope you have a great weekend, nicolle. >> thank you, my friend. good evening, i am ari melber. there is more footage from inside the insurrection. speaker pelosi is someone who has experience with many different aspects of government

leadership. but boy, was this a test. and there's video from inside. it is real. it is authentic. it is striking. we should note as journalists, that it was not captured independently. it was captured by her daughter. you can factor that into the context because i always want you to know where we're getting what we show you. but no one is denying the authenticity, the vigor, the seriousness of these moments. house speaker pelosi and chuck schumer dealing with a physical security emergency. you have to remember, i'm about to show you one of the new pieces of footage. no one in that room knew what was going to happen. no one knew whether these calls were going to bring in the help that was urgently needed. or whether more people would be attacked, hurt, like some of those police officers who were tragically wounded. or whether politicians would start to be assassinated by

donald trump's mob. here's new video. well it's still not safe enough for us to go back. they're even still trying to penetrate the building. it's not a safe thing. because we're trying to figure out how we can get this job done today. >> i worry about you being in the capitol. >> roughly an hour. they also confirmed today they have thousands of law enforcement. they're confident that they can secure the premise. >> you can see some of what

unfolded in a matter of hours from the speaker talking to the vice president about his safety, his personal safety with him that close to the capitol after his own president donald trump had urged the mob, which he knew was armed to go into the capitol while they hung the gallows and other materials urging the . >> this is again a new moment where you see senator chuck schumer reacting. >> d.c. has requested the national guard. and it's been denied by d.o.d. i'd like to know a good reason why it's been denied. i apologize. >> don't apologize. >> please. the whole capitol is rampage. there's a picture of someone sitting in the senate.

we need a full national guard component now. >> that's the information that chuck schumer was getting. you see in real time. united states was under attack. attack from within urged on by the outgoing president, but attack nonetheless. and at that point, the federal government was not acting and not securing that dangerous scene which may have contributed to the violence, the loss of life, to the police endangered. because at that time, trump's national guard who was in control of it, was interfering with safety. here you see pelosi trying to get the army secretary to act. >> i'm going to call the mayor of washington d.c. right now and see what other outreach she has. these departments as leader has mentioned. and also that we can deliver the good news that you are now

instead of blocking the national guard, that you will -- >> there's more people in the senate -- >> i have to talk to my boss. >> and then did you talk to your boss? we have the green light. they never sent them. >> thank you. keep working. we need all the personnel we can get before someone gets hurt. >> yes, sir. >> look at this. you see some of the strategy there. it's interesting. this as i mentioned, was released by pelosi's family. different levers of the government because the head of the government -- this is what comes through here, the head of the government at the time, donald trump, was not only derelict, but was actively encouraging the violent attack on the capitol. because it was a coup.

it was an attempted coup. that the justice department, the attorney general, which oversees not only all the prosecutors, but the entire federal bureau of investigation, they're supposed to do their job. i don't know where you were on january 6th, but i remember watching in our newsroom coverage how many people were going out of the capitol without arrests. how many people were just ransacking the place. well what we learned now, brand new from this new video is how these democratic leaders of congress were pressing then attorney general, acting attorney general jeff rosen to do the job. why wouldn't the fbi be there? why wouldn't you be arresting them. they're committing crimes on tv right now. they walked in and out of the capitol. here's that call with then acting attorney general rosen. >> and are you asking arrests to be made?

>> i would strongly recommend that you make arrests starting now. >> will you ask the president to make a statement to ask them to leave the capitol? >> so as you might guess we're coordinating as quickly -- >> no, no, please answer my question. answer my question. >> senator, i'm going to do everything i can do. >> does that include asking the president to get these people who are followers to leave the capitol? >> i'm trying to get at this at greatest urgency as fast as possible. >> it's already too late for that. rarely do you see it so vividly on tape. that is the actual and complete failure of the top law

enforcement official in the country. the attorney general to deal with national security crisis. i don't want to play hypotheticals with you on the news. what if they were foreign terrorists? what if they were black panthers ransacking the capitol? but it is a reminder of so many people, including the supposed good guys who come under subpoena and tell you two years later about how concerned they were about donald trump's leadership that they almost resigned or they almost did something. mr. rosen looks like somebody who probably shouldn't serve as a chief law enforcement officer ever again, because that was a test. a test failed. the footage also shows this disconnect that we've reported on. you have the white house and capitol, you have lawmakers concerned about trump. and you have all of this put together, and what nicolle and i were talking about, the possibly final congressional january 6th

hearing. which we just saw the results of were planned. >> the secret service field office related tip that had been received by the fbi. according to the source of the tip, the proud boys planned to march armed into d.c. they think that they will have a large enough group to march into d.c. armed, the source reported. and will outnumber the police so they can't be stopped. their plan is to literally kill people. please -- please take this tip seriously and investigate further. >> people pleading to take it seriously. while there are these reports that the probe has obtained records showing multiple calls between secret service officials and the oath keepers because there were planned rallies. it's not clear, at least there's not enough evidence to suggest whether that was part of law enforcement duties talking to

people coming to d.c. or something more sinister. what i'd love to tell you, and i say this as someone who lives in this country, as an american, i'd love to tell you the secret service has shown up and cooperated. so they've provided the materials, the corroboration, talking to the oath keepers who are now, some of them, convicted of sedition. because this isn't an episode of "24." it's not dramatic it you can connect the people doing the sedition with the people walking around with the president. that's not a plot twist anybody wants. but i can tell you the secret service has cleared this up because instead, they wiped their phone, deleted evidence. possible criminal obstruction. they stand accused. some of them have offered to come in and clean up their testimony. so when we report on not only the insurrection but how many

people out of the government either by acts of omission or comission, joining in, were supporting the lies, the planning or the actual violence, well you have all of the makings of a coup on your hands. and as it's been said, a coup that goes unpunished becomes a training exercise. we're going to get into exactly that point with our two special guests when we're back in one minute. ecial guests when we're back in one minute whenever heartburn strikes get fast relief with tums. it's time to love food back. ♪ tum tum tum tum tums ♪ did you know some of your detergent's fragrance disappears in the dryer? downy in-wash scent boosters survive the washer & dryer for freshness that lasts 6 times longer than detergent alone. release freshness with every touch... with downy in-wash scent boosters.

i'm joined by former governor howard dean and historian michael beshlos. >> i think the biggest question here is, ari, and thank god for

alexandra pelosi for that video. here you've got schumer and pelosi begging the governors of virginia and maryland, it's not even their jurisdiction, to send in armed forces to restore public safety to the united states capitol because the president of the united states wouldn't do it. he was sitting in the room off the oval office. he was watching tv. and by most accounts, enjoying the violence and enjoying the fact that so many people seemed to be demonstrating on his behalf. here's the question, ari, if you would have this kind of riot, this kind of violence at the capitol, an obvious attack on congress and the capitol building. and the lives of speaker pelosi and vice president pence, members of congress were in eminent danger. they were a couple of minutes from being killed. there were signs they did want

to do that. they were a few minutes away from a hostage crisis. where they could have taken leaders of congress in and put them on tv and said we're not going to let this person out until donald trump is reinstated as president and serves for the next four years. you don't know what was going to happen. so the point i'm making, ari and howard, is that if we want a situation like this, let's say in 1938, would f.d.r., franklin roosvelt have said, sorry, not me. let's say george h.w. bush, 1991. let's say there had been an attack on congress in the capitol when he had been president, would he have been hands off? donald trump is the only president in the history of the united states who if this had happened, would have been so hands off and perfectly fine with letting this imminent

danger. >> howard? >> yeah, i think that's true. and the question is what's going to be done about it. we have a judicial system that's deliberate and unbelievable slow. but these are capital offenses, in some ways. i'm in the a supporter of the death penalty. but in the past, people have been killed by firing squads for treason. and we need this to all go to court. and we need this to be the subject of hearings. i commend the leadership in congress for the january 6th hearings. certainly in my lifetime, and i lived through the 1968 assassinations and the fixed conventions, and the burning of 99 cities after king was assassinated. this is far more dangerous to the country.

and if we don't pursue it, we'll pay with the forfeiture of our democracy. >> yeah, and what the committee obviously had in its possession and saved until what they call a last hearing, we will see, is partly reminding people what that day was like as it unfolded. you know, mr. beshlos refers to probabilities and hypotheticals because there's a terror, howard, that you see who is cool under pressure. i mentioned attorney general rosen b.s.'ing his way through the call in the middle of a national security crisis. using all the words you hear from a politician, "i'm on it." not a candidate, not an opposition party. no, saying gotta start making

arrests. go ahead. >> these are all pieces that need to be investigated. i think the secret service needs to be decapitated. if you can get rid of a couple of crucial days of texts from the secret service, then heads need to roll at the secret service. people need to be fired. agents, not just the chief of staff or the chief of the secret service. to do nothing in a case like this is to agree with the coup. which means that rosen and former secretary of defense, who are trying desperately to clean up their records in front of the january 6th committee, they need to be arrested and put on trial pending the results of the investigation. this can't be let go, because if it is, our country will be let go and our democracy will be let go. i think we actually do have to obey the democratic process, unlike what trump and his group

of traitors were interested in doing. and the people who were responsible for this by omission or comission need to be. >> i had a political science professor who said the simplest form of power is always through the people who have the arms and the best control of violence. and what separates civilized organized society where there may yet be some freedom, let alone we'll get to equality, but even just freedom and human dignity, is that it is simply not people with guns or warlords or what have you. use whatever terminology you want. the both that you and howard are zeroing in on the violence that was working that day. others seemed afraid of it. the losing president, who might run again, was directly behind it. and the secret service who used

guns under the color of law have not exactly comported themselves. where it is just warlords and tyrants with the violence as the manner of rule. >> we were almost there on the 6th of january. that's how close we came. howard and ari, how many times when donald trump is president did we hear him at rallies boasting about. he would say, i got these big powers under article ii. i've got so much power i can't even talk about it. and i might use it one day. that's what he wanted. he wanted that to lead to this so he could do something like, we're just imagining this, declare marshal law. got out of that chamber so that

they were preserved. he could have said well there are no ballots here and there's no president. and in the absence of a president, an electoral confirmation of a vote, i am going to remain here indefinitely with a situation of marshal law. it's something that we have every sign that donald trump wanted for four years. especially in the last months when he thought he was going to be driven out of the presidency. how much more evidence do we need? if we don't bring these people to justice, if we do not fix our system so that this never happens again, then it's our fault because we're going to be living under a sort of damages. >> i appreciate both of you. it does matter particularly as america faces the evidence. michael, howard, thanks so both of you. >> thank you. >> absolutely. howard mentioned going through the evidence. well some of the evidence is going on through the maga

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more than 30 witnesses in our investigation have invoked their fifth amendment right against self-incrimination. and several of those did so specifically in response to questions about their dealings with donald trump. >> that is a huge deal. sometimes we repeat ourselves in the news. and i admit i'm doing it because i talked to rachel about this last night. but that is absolutely remarkable. this is one of those things that like, we don't usually get to know. donald trump already broke the record for the most indictments of aides in any first term of any modern president. that was a big deal. now you have 30 people in a formal process who are worried about being indicted and not just for anything. i mean, being indicted is always bad. but being indicted related to the coup and insurrection and to

overthrow the government. this isn't bob, oh bob, we're used to people like that. i won't bore you with all the details, you don't just invoke the fifth. you have to figure out why and whether it's incredible. one of the requirements is you have a reasonable apprehension of being criminally indicted. so how many people have that? thirty in and around donald trump's circle. with 30 people ducking questions, donald trump's going to have to come in himself, like any other human being under a lawful subpoena. trying to get the kind of testimony that these trump insiders, again, because they and their lawyers inserted not a lie, but a belief that if they told the truth, they might end up going to jail. >> i assert my fifth amendment

right against compelled to be a witness against myself. >> plead the fifth. >> you believe the violence on january 6 was justified legally? >> i will assert my fifth amendment right to decline to answer your question. >> they have the right to invoke the fifth because of potential criminal prosecution. this is not a criminal case yet. so why are 30 of trump's allies doing this? and why is it already known so well throughout pop culture that when you do this, it doesn't usually look good. >> i'm pleading the fifth until i speak to my lawyer. >> upon the advice of counsel, i must invoke the fifth based on my rights. >> i plead the fifth. >> did he tell you where he was? >> i plead the fifth. >> i plead the fifth.

>> ms. morrison, it's just your name. >> i invoke my right against self-incrimination as afforded me in the u.s. constitution. >> so we know all about it. and there's a lot of skepticism. we talked about this last night. he talks tough or he defies or this and that. but it was under a year between the new york attorney general subpoenaing him and him coming in. where he actually did comply with the subpoena. as we reminded you, you do have rights. but you can't just duck out and never show up. that's what got steve bannon convicted. he's awaiting a jail sentence for that. well trump didn't do a full bannon. apparently he's too worried about that kind of conviction. so in new york, he did show up and he sat for his deposition. what did he do? do you remember? well he became the first president -- former president to every plead the fifth. we're joined now by the new

york times writer. welcome back. >> thanks for having me. >> these hearings are about evidence, they're about legislating and there about the public deciding gosh, if people can't truthfully answer what their role was in the attempted coup without incriminating themselves, are those the people you want to give power back? do you want to put them in charge of the secret service or guns? did 30 seem like a high number to you? >> oh, 30 seems like a high number. i think it is smart of you to frame it in political as well as legal terms. because usually when people take the fifth amendment, they're the ones on trial, right, and the criminal threat to them is clear. here, this is more hypothetical. i might say something in this congressional proceeding that could then put me in danger of an indictment.

that is a little more removed. it's unusual. it doesn't have the same sort of implication. it's also different from what trump did because he took the fifth in a civil enforcement action. and there it's a kind of dangerous in some ways thing to do. you're sparing yourself from the possibility of indictment. but you also give the judge in a civil action a reason to take what you're not saying against you. in other words, it's a negative implication. maybe you could say something that would help against you. these people, they don't have to worry about that. so to a certain degree it feels like a little bit like a kind of free lunch to me that they took the fifth here. i wonder what you think about that. >> that's interesting to me. yes, free lunch. in the civil case trump is basically saying if he told the truth about his business, he might be giving evidence that he committed a crime. all that tells you is just

within the four corners of it is he might have committed business crimes. that's between him and the people of new york and new york state. here,it's people might have committed violent crimes in the coup. and then a lot of them back into office. i don't think it's free lunch because i think it's very important to draw those lines. yes, there was a section or part of maga that's anti-truth and they're not going to look at this. and then there's other people, moderates, pro-life republicans and others who might actually still care. because you know what, you're not going to have much of your freedom intact if you find out that your reelecting team coup because they're on the record about ending elections. emily, i don't mean to sound dramatic or histrionic. it's friday and people are living their lives. there's other places on earth

where they've had elections for a while and then they stop having elections. democracies do end. i don't think it's a free lunch because i think people in the country may have to hear that and process it. and then while the d.o.j. cannot use that evidence against them, it doesn't mean they can't wake up and say, gosh, if they and their lawyers think there's a lot of crime being going on here, do we at the d.o.j. want to act on it, emily. >> yes, you're right. the voters inflict a cost by holding this against a future trump candidacy, or other republicans who would surround themselves with these same types, with these same people. and a second possibility is an indictment. that you're sort of bating the department of justice. certainly we've seen the department of justice show greater interest in some of these people and in pursuing these actions surrounding january 6 to a degree that we

did not see before the committee hearing, which you know, you've been really covering a lot which i really respect. because i think it's a way of continuing to shine the light and asking people whether they think there should be a price to pay. >> yeah, because it's sort of like, it's sort of gauling this all happened out in public and hasn't been dealt with. it's a heavy friday. howard dean was talking about in a lot of places treason is dealt with by execution. and nobody is jumping ahead to that. on the flip side, when no one is accountable on the elite side of the coup, that basically sends a message, be careful if you're an oath keeper. because it is friday, and we like to end on a lighter note, i did hear that you're raising a dog. can we learn about that? >> oh my goodness. yes. i have a puppy named rosie who is almost eight-months old.

i am so pleased she has not appeared in this program in the last few minutes. >> is rosie in the room with you? >> if i confess that, ari, will you ever have me back on the show? >> yes. i can't speak for "beat" viewers, but for me, a puppy is a plus. >> that's good to know. because if she ever barks when you have me on air, i'll remind you that you sort of invited that. >> do you want a dog related fifth amendment rap lyric. >> yeah, i do. >> i'm like a dog, i never speak but i understand. >> that's a good one to go out on. >> venn diagram. have a good weekend, emily. >> thank you so much. now i'm going to have a better weekend. >> okay. good. and of course to rosie, we hope she gets all the treats and

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we begin tonight's broadcast with news about the violence and attacks exposed by the insurrection. then we learned about accountability. now we turn to the midterm race. this is for one of the

republicans who pushed harder than most to try to help donald trump overthrow the election. we've shown you when senator ron johnson actually was playing games on the senate floor on january 6. now this issue is the fbi warning about russian assets. now hand delivery, you may remember, was something ron johnson faked a phone call to try to get out of discussing. he's been widely ridiculed for many things. the fake phone call was less important. but that's certainly gotten him meme attacked. his owner voters are questioning whether to reelect him. he faced off last night in an debate against a democratic opponent. digging up dirt on the bidens to try to get foreign help. >> there was also an instance where senator johnson had to be sat down by the fbi and warned that he may be a russian asset. we can't trust -- we cannot

trust senator johnson to protect democracy abroad because we can't even trust senator johnson to protect home. all right. here's the reporting. johnson confirming that the fbi did talk to him about exactly this issue. fbi was concerned that he was receiving false information from a kind of ukrainian fixer, who also was tied to rudy giuliani. kind of information that the trump administration later sanctioned that very person over. so the bottom line here is there was a there there. and mr. johnson since that time has shown himself to be more in the tank for potential illegalities to help trump than just about any senator. they didn't pick him at random. they weren't like, gosh, who would try to give pence the fake

electors. it was probably ron johnson would do it. voters have to make up their own mind. here's how mr. johnson responded, though, last night. >> in response to the wild charge of lieutenant governor barnes, the fbi set me up with a corrupt -- with a corrupt briefing leafette to smear me. >> i'm sorry. >> he's referring to corruption with the fbi, which i've been trying to uncover and expose. >> all right. this was laughed out of the room. people can decide whether they agree with him or not or whether it's the biggest issue or not. but to wildly accuse the fbi, which at the time was overseen by donald trump's administration of setting him up by giving him unaccurate information is bananas. as for his opponent, well they're selling shirts today. the fbi set me up. as you know, blue lives matter,

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inflation showing prices are surging for food and rent. it's a problem for so many americans. and also president biden going into these midterms. federal government is stepping in to try to further back up seniors. you see their social security checks jump about 9%. if that sounds big, it is. seniors haven't actually seen u.s. benefits jump that much in four decades. although on the other hand, practically, let's be clear, that's needed to keep their purchasing power at roughly the same level. which brings us to fallback friday. we've got someone who can decode all the economics for us. julia boorstin is the author of the new book "when women lead." and he's known for nine solo albums. he's got his own show on

eminem's shade 45. spell my name right. real talk. it's not that easy to spell. >> it isn't. it was the right name for my first album because people still mess it up. >> now that it happened on "the beat" it might catch on. but it's less catchy. we'll leave it with the original. great to have you both here. >> thank you for having me. >> we hear a lot of action, he hear a lot of different programs. >> you mention rent. the key thing is rent going up is a key piece of inflation. obviously we talk prices. if rent prices are rising, rent prices are usually locked in for at least a year. that's one reason why it's so hard for inflation to fall back once it's under way. >> yesterday's price is not today's price. >> not today's price. i mean, the rent thing has been a thing in new york city for a long time. one thing i have been struggling with is extremely frustrated,

the ride sharing doing the same exact thing, which obviously is tied in with rent and all that, but me personally, i'm a single dad who brings his daughter to school every day, and uber will literally turn a $10 cab ride into like a $60 ride. it's all relative, i guess. >> what else needs to fall back on your list? >> we were talking about elon musk. i cover twitter for cnbc. i follow what elon musk has been doing with twitter closely, but this week, he announced he's making his own perfume. he put up a website. it's called burnt hair. and he announced he had sold $1 million worth of this new perfume. what i would like to fall back on are these headlines where you're not sure if they're jokes or not. i dug deep. he did seem to have this website. i can't tell if the perfume bottles are real or just an image of a perfume bottle, but he has a track record of taking jokes like the flame thrower and turning them into businesses.

and i just would prefer if we could tell immediately whether or not something was a joke or real news. >> we have covered a lot, him trying to take over twitter. do you think he will really pull that off? >> i think he is legally bound to buy twitter based on everything and the way the trial is go and the fact the trial is delayed but still happening and the fact he has agreed now to buy twitter at the original price, i think at this point it seems likely to happen. >> okay. i want to get into the emojis. we do a lot of serious stuff all week and most of the hour. can we talk emojis for a minute? everyone uses them. >> so many choices. >> let's get into the choices. there's a new study, and a grain of salt, but it involves how some younger people say some emojis are either so played out or even offensive. the thumbs up emoji at work has been criticized by younger people as almost like passe or passive aggressive. here's what they're calling, some people, the older emojis.

the thumbs up, the red heart, the okay sign, poop, and i'm fine getting rid of poop, the blank check mark and you see the crying emoji on instagram a lot. i see it as a communication. the first question is, like, is it agist to say some emojis have to go? >> i think the crying emoji is laughing. >> that what i use it for. >> i think originally it was made for people being sad, which i don't think is the case nowadays. here's the question about the thumbs up. is that only on emojis or you know how you can like a text? >> just the emoji. i get it, i know you a little bit so i'm going to do this. if somebody's energy is like, that could be like, yo, get your thumb out of my face. and at work it's a different energy. on the other hand, aren't all emojis supposed to lighten the sentence? >> don't understand what's wrong with the heart emoji?

why is that offensive? >> that it's quote/unquote old. >> if you use purple, it's different. >> a black heart, very different than the red heart. >> okay. >> you know that. >> are there other emoji replacements that would be suggested for all the old people like myself who would heart something in a text? >> all right, you're kind of hip. you got your brooklyn planet hat on. what emoji do you think is cool? >> i like the two champagne glasses. i use that a lot, especially celebrating, if someone posts something on instagram, i put that, cheers, congratulations. >> i don't want to open up too much because we can get the to other topics. what i use a lot is a random animal. >> the tiger emoji. you have to throw in random emojis. >> if i say i'm running ten minutes late, it almost feels border line late. i'm already late. >> do you do a snail or a sloth. >> i said random.

you're talking synced up. i'll go i'm running late and then octopus. just to mix it up. >> true expression. >> yeah. anything else on your fallback list? >> man, just let's stop idolizing these celebrities and get involved with -- be parents. so many people are going to instagram and tv and watching and waiting for the answer. forget about rappers and actresses and reality stars and just focus on home. >> you came out on "the beat" wearing two chains to say forget about rappers. >> i'm coming out with two chains, only right. only right. >> it's only right. what about you? >> i have a book that came out. >> let's plug it. >> it's all about the power of female leadership. what i am over and what i would like to fall back on is this idea that the only good leaders are men and that female leader, we always talk about elizabeth holmes. she's an example of a bad leader. when you talk about female leaders in tech, that's who people think of. i would like to shift the conversation away from elizabeth holmes and towards the amazing

women doing great things, creating companies that are changing the world. >> i love that. we'll put it back on the screen. what is the three emojis that capture your book? >> i would say heart, empathy, female leaders lead with more empathy. what is vulnerability? what would be a vulnerability emoji? >> maybe one of the, like, fish. like a blow fish. >> no, no. >> you asked me. you tell us. >> maybe an open hands or something. >> i think you're very literal with your emojis. and last one. >> really good at building teams. >> i love that. thanks to both of you. that does it for "the beat." "the reidout" is up next.

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