tv Chris Jansing Reports MSNBC November 3, 2022 10:00am-11:00am PDT
god day. i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. at this hour, we're watching as some of the biggest names in the country are on the road trying to answer the fundamental question upon which control of congress and future direction of the country rests. what motivates you, the voter? in these critical final days before the midterms, republicans are betting that people will
vote with their wallets. democrats are arguing that if democracy doesn't hold, nothing else matters. >> when true democracy goes away, people get hurt. it has real life consequences. it's not some abstract political science question. we are all affected. and we take this for granted, and we can't. >> so, who's right? we've got reporters in some of the most closely contested states in the country. plus ukrainians now bracing for the unthinkable, a possible nuclear attack by russia. and if that wasn't bad enough, vladimir putin now appears to be joining forces with another one of the most dangerous men in the world, kim jong-un. and finally, anyone who's tried to cram themselves into an airplane seat knows they can be unbelievably cramped and uncomfortable. but could they also be dangerous? what the faa and lawmakers are doing to change things. that's later in the show. but we start with president
biden and his decision to focus his formedable bully pulpit, a prime-time speech, to make his closing argument on the threat to our democracy and political violence. >> i know there's a lot at stake in these midterm elections, from our economy to the safety of our streets to personal freedoms, the future of health care, social security, medicare, it's all important. but there's something else at stake, democracy itself. we must vote knowing what's at stake and not just the policy of the moment. but institutions that have held us together, as we sought a more perfect union, are also at stake. >> that message is arguably a risky strategy. it's important, timely. but democracy under threat is a message biden's base has already bought and that probably won't move most other voters. not surprisingly, republicans are jumping on that. mitch mcconnell tweeting that biden is, quote, desperate to
change the subject from inflation, crime, and open boarders. but the white house is also getting pushback from democrats who say the strategy won't help them win the house and senate races that are still up for grabs. here's bernie sanders' 2020 campaign manager, faith shakir. >> if you're going to vote on democracy, i would posit to you that a lot of those people have made their decision. we know where they're going to be. the undecided voters, they are all in on economy. and president biden and the democratic party need to tell them not only do i feel and see your pain, every morning i wake up thinking about this. every night i go to sleep on it. send that message down this home stretch. >> i want to bring in nbc's chief white house correspondent kristen welker. robert gibbs is former press secretary under president obama. great to see you both. robert, i want to read something from nbc's first read, which
struck me. it is striking to us that biden, known for his empathy, is closing on democracy rather than feeling americans' economic plain with rising prices. this obviously isn't a decision they made lightly. it's clearly a conscious choice. obviously they have the situation the paul pelosi and the attack that is a motivating factor. but the president barely mentioned the economy last night, just in passing. he didn't talk about inflation, jobs, prices going up. can you give us any insight into why they've made this such a huge focus here? >> well, i do think if you're them and you're looking at a lot of the polling, the nbc news polling suggests that democracy is among, if not one of the top issues. but i do agree with others that have said -- and i think there's a real danger in closing any election on one issue, particularly when you have a ton of close races that are really still up for grabs. and those undecided voters that have yet to make up their minds
are probably not, as you heard in that setup, not going to be persuaded by an argument that's probably persuaded many that it's going to reach. so, i do think there's a bit of a danger in not taking some of the speeches that biden really has given over the course of the last maybe ten days talking about social security and medicare and the importance of protecting that, talking about economy, talking about democracy, and packaging them into one closing argument that has a larger frame about -- and sets across for voters a choice rather than the referendum that democrats fear we're getting into. >> well, kristen, help us to understand what you're hearing from folks who are on team biden. again, it's a choice that they made. it's a choice that they've been hearing for a while from some democrats that they don't like. they say the economy, the
economy, the economy, what are you hearing? >> well, what i'm hearing from sources who are close to the white house and to the president, chris, is that this was a part of a broader attempt to try to paint republicans, part of the republican party at least, as extreme in a range of different issues whether it comes to threats against the nation's democracy or to things like cutting, slashing spending on medicare and social security. so, that is the pushback that you are getting from allies of the president that, look, this was intentional. this is obviously something he has been talking about for quite some time going back to his days as a candidate. and they also see this, chris, as a way to energize the democratic base. but for all of the reasons that robert just lays out, it's also a very risky strategy. and i've been talking to democrats privately who are scratching their heads a bit and saying, look, in these closing days, this is the time to stay focused on those pocketbook issues, the top issue for
voters. and also to be talking about abortion. that's an area where i think they can pick up votes among independents and suburban women. those all-important voters they really need to carry these close races over the finish line. today he will be back on the trail in new mexico talking about the economy, chris. and the reaction there privately is democrats say, don't expect other candidates to echo this on the trail. >> what i hear from democrats, and i'm sure you want to hear even more from them. it is usually prefaced by the, we keep doing this. the we keep doing this is kind of what they heard from gavin newsom. let me play that for you. >> it goes to my fundamental difference with my damn party. we're getting crushed on narrative. we're going to have to do better in terms of getting on the offense and stop being on the damn defense. >> good question, robert. is it too late? >> well, do i think the atmospherics for tuesday are
largely baked in? yes, i do. i don't think you can change a lot of that. and look, there's going to be a lot of free messaging advice. i was in the white house in 2010 during the shellacking. we got a lot of free messaging advice in the days after losing the house and the senate. so, that's going to come. look, i do think we've got to figure out and focus a message that talks about the extremes. i think it's sort of where biden wanted to go. but i don't think in landing just on democracy at the end here, it sort of threads that needle. but is it a broader sense of what's at stake but also what the other side is going to do. again, i think fundamentally you've got to make this election as much as you can. and history's hard and gravity's hard right now with these atmospherics to make this a choice of competing visions.
democracy is certainly a part of it, but it's only a part of it. >> kristen welker, thank you. robert gibbs, we're going to see you back in just a moment. i want to drill down on where things stand because it actually is kind of mind blowing how close these races are just five days outs. take a look at this list of polls. all of them released within just the last 48 hours or so. and every single one of them, senate candidates are tied or within the margin of error. let's go to reporters in a couple of those states. nbc's dasha burns in pennsylvania in the middle of a fetterman event with senator bob casey. ellison barber is in clarkston, georgia. is the message they're sending about defending democracy or one that's different from what john fetterman might want, which is the economy? >> look, in a place like this county where fetterman is
campaigning right now with bob casey, today they are focusing on economy, on inflation. that really matters to people here, those sort of more esoteric issues like the threats to democracy, while a lot of people do find that important, what's hitting people hard and immediately is gas prices, the price of groceries, and people want to hear their candidates talk about that. it's what we hear from voters all across the state and in lieu certain. folks here have flipped for trump in '16. they did it again in 2020. it was largely because they felt like the democratic party left them behind. that's been fetterman's entire message throughout his campaign. even in the primary, he wants to fight for those places that feel like they've been abandoned. that is the message he is delivering right now, and that's what voters we talked to really want folks to focus on. as you mentioned, this race is incredibly tight, and it is
combative right now. just outside of this event, there is a mobile billboard that's been sent over by the oz campaign that is replaying the debate outside here. so, this is a fight that is going to be bitter until the end here, chris. >> so fascinating, dasha. thank you. i'll let you get back to covering the candidate. meantime, ellison, who are the voters that are still undecided in georgia? do we know? and what are they focused on? >> reporter: well, big picture, any time we talk to voters here regardless of political affiliation, we hear them talk about concerns about the economy, about the price of gas. in a lot of ways, this senate race has become one that at least on a national level and also in the campaign ads people see on their tvs here, that is hyperfocused on just issues of morality, a character test, if you will, between the two candidates. in terms of who might be undecided here, it seems like it's a rather small group, but it is something that exists and something to watch as we get closer to election day.
split ticket voters could be a factor here. there's a recent ajc poll found a significant number of republican voters saying they're withholding support for herschel walker. in that poll, 6% of republican voters said they were going to vote for the republican incumbent governor brian kemp and then split in the senate race and vote for raphael warnock. an additional 5% said they were going to support the libertarian candidate. 11% in a race that is as close as this one could be a very big deal. and when you look at the polls consistently in the last few weeks, we have seen these two candidates in a statistical tie with neither candidate going past the necessary 50% threshold in order to avoid a runoff in this election. interestingly enough though, as we've been on the campaign trail with both candidates, they seem to be focusing their efforts in this final stretch on getting turnout higher amongst their base. they're going to districts they will absolutely hold, not
necessarily appearing to reach out aggressively to independents or swing voters. they seem focused on going to places where they have support and trying to convince people to just turn out and turn out in high numbers. >> so interesting there as well. ellison, thank you for that. we've got a surprising twist to tell you about. one of trump's closest aides may be on the verge of testifying in the investigation into the secret documents taken to mar-a-lago. nbc news has confirmed that kash patel, former chief of staff in donald trump's department, has been granted immunity by the justice department after a judge said that was the only way to compel his grand jury testimony about trump's handling of those highly classified records. i want to bring in lisa ruben, legal analyst. it's good to see you. why could this be important? what does it mean for trump and this investigation? >> it's an incredibly important development, chris, for the
investigation because of the role that kash patel played with president trump in the waning days of his administration and since. if you look at the search warrant that was used for the mar-a-lago search, kash patel even discussed in there at paragraph 53 for anyone who wants to follow along at home. kash patel told breitbart in may of 2022 there was no way the national archives found classified documents at mar-a-lago. why? because those documents had already been declassified. that's the first and foremost thing the department wants to ask kash patel about. how do you know they were declassified? were you part of that process? what memorialization is available? the second thing they're going to want to know is what led kash patel being designated as one of president trump's representatives, which the national archives itself, which is something that trump did in june. he made kash patel and writer john salman his two designees
with the national archives. the only reason you do this is if the target itself is trump. kash patel is significant enough in this investigation that you don't go to the level of offering him immunity unless you have a target that's one higher up the train. >> so, we will keep following that. meantime, i want to ask you about emails that came out. they were sent around by trump lawyers after the 2020 election, and they indicated this. they believed a direct appeal to supreme court justice clarence thomas was their best bet in terms of having the supreme court derail biden's victory. what's your take away from that? does it have any relevance that there end up being challenges, for example, in some of the midterm races? >> it tells me a couple of things. first of all, during the trump administration, we saw a huge increase in the use of what's called the shadow docket, which is when litigant leapfrog court of appeals and go straight to
the supreme court to get so-called emergency relief they want. and that's what "washington post" and politico reported on yesterday. they're talking about a case that hadn't even been filed yet in federal court in georgia with the expectation that within a few days they would be able to seek emergency relief from justice thomas. the other thing that it tells me is that the tail is wagging the dog here. the fixation with georgia, which we always assumed was really about substance, was more about which state could they hang their hat on to get to justice thomas. that's not to say justice thomas here is culpable. it's just to say that for the lawyers surrounding president trump, getting to him was their number one objective. he was their only hope. >> lisa ruben, thank you so much. good to see you. president biden on the campaign trail connecting his message on the threat to democracy and the attack on speaker pelosi's husband. we'll go live to washington for the latest on the investigation and why members of congress are
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we have breaking news out of wisconsin. the deputy director of the milwaukee election commission has been fired after fraudulently requiring absentee ballots. shaq, what's going on there? >> reporter: well, we just heard from the d.a.'s office, chris, saying this is now a criminal matter and that charges are likely to be filed in the coming days. this was an unannounced press conference from the mayor of milwaukee, who was standing with the director of the milwaukee
elections commission. and apparently it was an attempt to expose the vulnerability in the state's election law. we heard from the mayor that the deputy director of milwaukee election commission fraudulently requested military ballots using a state website, the mayor suggesting she did this in here own time, did this privately not while working, but sent those ballots to a republican state lawmakers who has been trying to expose this vulnerability in state law and who has cast doubt on the 2020 election. so, we don't know the political affiliation of this state of this milwaukee election official, who is now fired, but she sent these ballots to a republican state lawmaker, essentially trying to prove a point. the d.a.'s office said that this is a criminal investigation at this point, that charges are likely to be filed in the future. she has since been fired. the mayor was strong in her comments saying this was a
breach of trust. as soon as they found out, she was fired, her access to elections systems were revoked. they made clear at this point in the investigation as they continue with the investigation, it does not appear this impacts any absentee voting or any existing vote count in the city of milwaukee. but this was an attempt, according to the mayor, to show and highlight a vulnerability in state law, chris. >> shaq brewster, thanks so much for bringing us up to date on that. a top democrat who is close to nancy pelosi is publicly demanding answers about security answers surrounding the attack on paul pelosi. and stark warnings were delivered last night by president biden and former president obama. >> one thing is clear, and that is this increasing habit of demonizing political opponents, of just yelling and thinking not just that i disagree with
somebody but that they're evil or wrong. that creates a dangerous climate. >> the assailant entered the home asking, where's nancy, where's nancy? those are the very same words used by the mob when they stormed the united states capitol on january 6th. all of us, to make it absolutely clear, the violence and intimidation have no place in america. >> let's talk more about this with nbc's garrett haake and ryan riley. robert gibbs is back with us as well. garrett, you cover capitol hill, where congresswoman zoe lofgren is demanding answers from the capitol police about how members are being protected when they're outside d.c. i'm wondering what's the mood among members you've been able to talk to, and how complicated, frankly, is the answer to her question? >> members were spooked by this attack. that was clear from the word go. members i've talked to and my colleagues i've talked to were very frightened by this possibility. and a lot of them have been
living with these kinds of threats and fears for a long time. the attack against paul pelosi was the kind of thing when you talk to members was not outside the realm of possibility. it could happen to any one of them. members felt like it was an eventuality that someone would be attacked in kind of the current threat environment against members of congress. that's also, by the way, the way capitol police look at it. and i think they see this not as a failure of them doing their job, which is prescribed them to, which in this case is clear, protecting the speaker. she is the mission. but rather opening the question, which is how much more do you want the capitol police to be able to do? do you want them to be able to protect the families of the people who have details assigned to them? do you want them to be more of a protective agency? do you want them to have more relationships with local police departments? do you want them to look more like the u.s. secret service? those are the kinds of questions that lofgren gets into in this letter. if i were a betting person, i would suspect these are the kinds of questions that are going to be answered at a hearing in the lame duck session
about the ways we're going to have to adapt to the modern threat environment against members of congress and their families. >> sad but true. we learned the capitol police missed seeing that intruder break into home. they had 1,800 security cameras to monitor at the time. why have cameras if no one is monitoring them? is it a fair question? should it be different when we're looking at the home, whether she's there or not, somebody who's second in line to the presidency, where do you see this going, robert? you worked at the white house. you know what it is for individuals to be under threat. >> yeah, chris, i think it's a fair question. but i also have to think it has to be considered with exactly what garrett just talked about. you've got to really think through in a new threat environment, how does the capitol police that already has to secure the capitol complex and people within the capitol complex, how does that flex to
members of congress and senators. i don't know that anybody that thinks the current resource structure allows them to follow 535 people, the residences that they have in washington plus the residences that they have in their own home states. so, i think not only is this going to be a topic of a lame duck hearing, but i think this is probably going to get addressed or at least begun to get addressed around the appropriations process and the resources that are going to be needed for this in the lame duck. it's got to be on the minds of every member of congress and every family member of a member of congress. >> yeah. and ryan, speaking of threats, you've been covering the trial of the far right oath keepers. and jurors heard audio from the founder of that group that included a specific threat to nancy pelosi. tell us about that. >> yeah, that's right. this is a recording that was secretly made by someone who later cooperated with the government.
it was actually someone who has been working on some of these election conspiracies after the 2020 election. but this is recording of stuart rhodes in the days after january 6th, and it's part of what prosecutors put on as part of their final prosecution before they closed out their case, saying there is an ongoing plan to stop the peaceful transfer of power. take a listen to what stuart rhodes had to say. >> if he's not going to do the right thing, and he's just gonna let himself be removed illegally, then we should have brought rifles. >> and, you know, just listening to a lot of this audio that comes in on these january 6th cases, we get it on a weekly basis here. just this week, last night in fact, there's another video that came out of individuals entering the u.s. capitol asking where's pelosi, where's pelosi, where's pelosi. the number of times pelosi's name has come up is almost
incalculable. it's a continuing theme we've seen in these cases over the past 21 months, chris. >> the sheer number, obviously, 535. but also they're coming from so many different angles. january 6th rioters, members of far right militias, conspiracy theories, you name it, they're coming. but your former boss, president obama, argues that the demonization of political opponents, calling them evil, creates a dangerous climate, that this is the result -- and i remember, what, ten years ago after 2012, he said he expected the republican fever would break. he was holding out hope that the party would move back to the center, that gridlock could end. do you see that anywhere out there as a possibility? >> no. i don't think the fever is any danger of breaking, and i think it's not likely particularly after we go through tuesday that that's going to break. look, i was in the white house in 2010, 2011, when we saw the
rhetoric continue to get hotter and hotter. and congresswoman gabby giffords was shot at a congressional event at a grocery store outside of tucson. so, i think we've seen this for a while. but i think as former president obama said, the depth and the heated nature of the rhetoric has gotten a lot higher and a lot hotter. and i don't see that that's going to break any time soon. i think we saw it on january 6th. i think we saw it with the attack on paul pelosi. to be clear, it was an attempted assassination on the speaker. paul pelosi was there and was injured in that attack, but i think we have to treat it for what it is. and that's what makes it even more serious. >> robert gibbs, ryan riley, garrett haake, thank you all so much. the ongoing fears russia may use a nuclear weapon in putin's war with ukraine and the big changes that the capital of kyiv is making just in case. and could north korea be setting the stage for its first nuclear test in more than five
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on the use of nuclear weapons. but experts say it could be a sign that the kremlin is trying to tone down the heated rhetoric on nukes. matt bradley is in kyiv for us. matt, a statement from russia, the reality of the fear of a nuclear attack on the ground in ukraine, they're two very different things. what are you hearing there? >> reporter: i can tell you walking around here in kyiv and around in ukraine, most folks aren't that worried about a nuclear attack. while they're considered to be a very real possibility, they're really facing much more immediate threats, which is bombs falling from the sky, crushing them and their families. and this is happening in kyiv and places outside major cities, closer to the front line, really all over the country. i've also spoken with members of the government, some of the leading politicians in the last week or two, and the things they've been telling me is the same. they are not really worried that russia is going to be using a nuclear weapon, even though we've been hearing a lot of talk
about this so-called dirty bomb. which, by the way, no dirty bomb has ever been used ever in history, especially not in combat. they believe rightly or wrongly in ukraine amongst the political class, that nato will not allow vladimir putin to get away with deploying any kind of nuclear weapon in ukraine because the punishment would be so severe. whether that's true or not, ukrainians believe that nato has their back. and so far, over the last nearly nine months of fighting, nato has really shown itself to be behind kyiv in its fight against russia. so, they have reason to believe that nato will press the kremlin to not use nuclear weapons. but in addition to that, we've been hearing from the kremlin themselves. vladimir putin in a speech just last week said that there was no political or strategic reason for them to use a nuclear weapon. we've heard from washington as well and from ukraine that there has been in visible movements on the russian side showing that they might be preparing to deploy any kind of nuclear
weapon. i can tell you, chris, the real worry here among the ukrainian political class, among military types here, is that russia will escalate on some level, maybe not using a nuclear weapon, but something in a way far more insidious and far more deadly. and that is something that is really being watched, the possibility of using chemical weapons, which is something that the russians either allowed or actually actively participated in in syria not so long ago. and there's also the issue of just, you know, advancing on the battlefield, deploying their newly mobilized troops in a big way that could actually roll back some of the recent gains that the ukrainian military has done. and remember, a lot of the analysis that i've been reading here, vladimir putin probably believes that once his newly mobilized troops actually come to the front line, once they're trained, that they might be able to turn the tide of the war. and whether that's true or not is another question. but it means that in the near term, he's probably not thinking of using a nuclear weapon.
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the rally for kathy hochul. also with us, republican strategist and msnbc analyst, susan dell percent yo. susan, five days before the election you've got all these heavy hitters coming to new york. what message do they sit at this point? >> i think the message they have to do is focus in new york city, and that is to turn out voters, which is why this event in upper manhattan is a little odd. they should be in brooklyn or queens doing a huge get out the vote rally. that's what hochul needs. hochul is running for election. she is not familiar to the people of new york state as well as especially new york city. she hasn't really put an agenda forward. and while it's great that she has these wonderful spokespeople out there for her and coming to her aid, she really shouldn't need it. this is crazy. this is new york. it's a 20-point state for democrats. >> so, ron, what is the plan for today's rally? and how do they plan to move the
needle? >> i think this is all about trying to generate excitement and trying to generate a reason for people to go out and vote. early voting started over the weekend and goes for a few more days before election day. but kathy hochul is trying to make this a big, big deal. you know, we know the history hillary clinton and kamala harris have made. letitia james is the first woman of color ever elected to state-wide office in new york. hochul is the first woman governor, but she's never won the office outright. she would become the first woman to win the office of governor outright here. those are some of the themes we're going to hear today for sure. it's all about get out the vote. here's hillary clinton from earlier today talking about the issue. take a listen. >> our job is to convince our voters to turn out because if they turn out, then there's no doubt that we will win. but it is an uphill battle the in a midterm election to convince people to get out and vote, whereas the other side is
motivated because they want change at any cost. >> and just for more context, we're at -- college, in the upper west side of manhattan, perhaps one of the most progressive corners in the state of new york. so, again, it's all about trying to generate excitement. on the other side, you have representative lee zeldin, a republican who's run an incredibly strong race, many people would say. no one expected this to be this close. his message has been about crime, public safety, quality of life, all that. and the polls have narrowed. the real clear average and other polls put it in single digits, as much as five or six points, whereas susan and others have been saying, this is usually not even close. and it's not just the governor's race there's a big concern about in new york. as you know, there are down-ballot races or congressional races because of the crazy and contentious redistricting process that have
put as many as nine congressional districts in play here in the state of new york, which could shift the balance in washington. so, there's a lot at stake here in new york. it's really amazing. it's never like this. and that's why we're here. >> there's a bigger picture here as well, susan. there's no "wall street journal" showing that white suburban women now favor republicans by 15 percentage points. that's a 27-point swing away from democrats since august. it's the very group that helped them four years ago, right? so, susan, one more number stuck out at me. 66% of white suburban women, two out of three, say rises costs are causing a major or minor financial strain. so, i mean, bringing out a powerhouse trio, harris, clinton, james, what can they say? how do they help? >> let me add to that, chris, is that the canary was in the coal mine just last year. we don't have to go back to
2020. we can go back to 2021 in the suburbs of long island of new york to see republicans make a clean sweep of what had become a much more democratic suburb of nassau county. republicans have been building on this in the suburbs. when we see letitia james and vice president harris and hillary clinton come to new york, that's great. but i don't know that they're creating the excitement that is needed with five days out. where is their messaging? i still didn't hear it in that clip you showed of hillary clinton. what is kathy hochul about? what is she trying to do? is she trying to fix crime? is she trying to move the economy going? what has she done? she really is an unknown character. and lee zeldin has done something very unusual for a republican running state-wide. he is running in new york city. he is there all the time hoping to bring up that vote to about
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