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trauma care team, icu staff, and the entire hospital medical staff for their excellent and compassionate lifesaving treatment he received after the violent assault in our home. paul remains under doctors care as he continues to progress on a long recovery process and convalescent. he is now home, surrounded by his family who request privacy. the 9-1-1 operator who speaker pelosi mentioned is heather greaves, who saved paul pelosi's life. with her quick thinking under pressure. that is tonight's last word. the 11th hour with stephanie ruhle starts right now. ruhle startstonight, the increat to intimidate voters. growing words about drop box watchers, and disinformation. five days until election day. with some republicans already set to challenge results before any votes are counted. then, yes, inflation is up. but so is the man. we are still willing to pay the
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price. a real look at the economy, and where it stands right now. and what kids 16 billion bucks by. that's what's been spent on these midterm races. the big money in politics, as the 11th hour gets underway on this thursday night. >> good evening once again. i'm stephanie ruhle. we are just five days before the midterm elections, there are new concerns about attempts to prevent voters from even casting their ballots. and keep election workers from helping them do just that. the new york times reporter warning voting's are now coming for election officials in several different states. they say efforts to intimidate voters and undermine public confidence in the electoral process are intensifying. even as voter fraud is rare. and nbc news says election
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officials are on alert. for conspiracy fueled threats. they're also reporting increased harassment of poll workers, and they worry that needs delay the results could lead to even more lies about, quote, stolen elections. one top official about that michigan that she knows it's coming and she is ready. >> what the effect of the multi year effort we've been engaged in, protecting the moccasin against constant misinformation, constant barrage of attempts to delegitimized our processes. is that we are more prepared, than ever, to protect every voter and protection election workers in the state. biden is trying to intimidate voters are destructive processes on election day. we've got a plan in place to minimize that destruction and seek immediate consequences. >> democratic candidates also worried about the effects of a conspiracy theories on next tuesday's election. arizona senator mark kelly is in a tight reelection race against a republican 2020 election denier, blake masters. . >> for about the election 2022. i worry here in arizona, possibly be in the ground zero of a really challenging period
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in our country's history, with regards to democracy. it is not only my race, it is the governor's race. the secretary of state, general, those races are critical. every candidate on the other side out has been varied versus a. house question the 2020 election because their guy didn't win. and will say things to try to convince people that the election is stolen. >> whether to accept the results of the election is also an issue in wisconsin senate race. republican senator, ron johnson, we tried to held up democratic candidate mandela bars. was asked today if he would accept the outcome of the midterms. >> do you commit to accepting the results of today's election? >> i can't, but i can predict the democrats up. land >> is especially, it depends on what you see?
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>> it has to. we will see how this plays out. >> we will see how this plays out. and president biden is back on the campaign trail tonight. supporting democrats in new mexico. last night, he called this election a defining moment for our democracy. he echoed that theme tonight during a rally in albuquerque. >> five days, five days to go. and that's all the most part elections of our lifetime. this number for end of this is a choice. a choice. between two vastly different visions of america. >> meanwhile, donald trump is an iowa. campaigning for 80 nine-year-old senator chuck grassley. who was running for a storm. tonight, trump told a crowd he will, quote very very very probably run again. he might be the work the new york attorney general to steam had a huge win against trump and his business in court
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today. there's also news but not to pelosi's husband, ball. who suffered a fractured skull after being attacked with the averages six days ago. he was really from the hospital this afternoon and is now recovering at home in san francisco. tonight, the speaker said in the statement this. paul remains under doctor's care as he continues to progress in a long recovery process. with that, let's all get smarter tonight with the help of our lead off panel. nbc news correspondent, my dear friend currently, is here. barbara mcquade, veteran federal prosecutor and former u.s. attorney for the eastern district of michigan. and belize and toward director just fusion she spent two years as a lead election reporter for propublica. okay, kara. walk me through this, people are getting harassed. voters are getting intimidated. this is underway. i was going to ask you, what the administration will don forsman is doing about it. visit to light, the damage has been done. >> at the from the administration's perspective. there are a lot of damage up on the part the president speech. according to white house officials as part of what was driving him to deliver that speech. but they are preparing for more to come.
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so this is a midterm election that the white house as essentially resigned to having a bad night on tuesday. be very clear died about how sources will be. and yet they have a president who went through a similar mid term in 2010 who are vice president obama calls it a shellacking he has somewhat of a familiarity with what is going to change. and what has changed washington across the country on wednesday. but one of the things that is so dramatic about is what you're pointing out. that they're going to be dealing with things like a new dynamic when it comes to governing and washington. that's a lot of investigation. and reportedly emphatic part about who's to blame for the message that was wrong or the losses that they suffered. but then, on top of that, there's going to be challenges the results. this could be fallout from whatever sort of intimidation comes along. there's going to be that aren't done on tuesday night. got to be election night, come
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election week, or longer. and then this information that's a whole other layer that is on top of all those things that happened with any party that isn't power losing in the midterm election and the president have to deal with in that switch. sold out among to it and learn dynamic. and that somewhere really haven't seen before. >> jessica, take us to the ground, when i think about poll workers getting threatened. i voted yesterday. it's a bunch of senior citizens handing you paper. shuffling you to the front of the line. what is happening to them, physically? >> want to be clear that the vast majority of people that are going to turn out to the polls, like you, are going to have been entirely forgettable experience.
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that is what you want. but under really extreme circumstances we have seen poll workers intimidated and harassed. this is most pronounced and places like central count facilities. where the ballots are being collected before they are tabulated. rather than at individual polling locations themselves. or at least that is a trend we are seeing. and so i want to be clear that while the things that we are seeing are alarming. they are kind of few and far between. and will only happen to a very small minority of folks. >> barbara, let's go to state of michigan. republicans are reportedly recruiting election deniers to
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be poll workers. how big of a problem is that? at the end of the day, these might not be ideal candidates. but can a poll worker and their views really impact the way somebody goes and votes? >> they can impact the choice of the voter when they get into the booth. but i think they can't be very destructive. back in 2020, we had a very destructive scene and what was then called the tc f center. which was one of these central counting locations. and there were republican election deniers pounding on the windows, the mandate to get inside. and i know people who were there counting, who are very frightened, very intimidated by that show of force. this time around, it seems like there's been a very concerted effort to train people. there was recently a lawsuit of the michigan supreme court trust ruled on today to prevent, what they wanted to do is have
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election challengers to be able to denote, in the pool book, every time a challenge is made in the basis. even if it is a frivolous challenge. so if they were to do that they could slow down the process in many of these polling places. now in the lancet long, so much get discouraging go home. and there is a lot of mischief that could be made, i think this part of the concern. >> barbara, to the point where my tampa did segment with you called is this legal? tonight this is our easiest legal question? what is is reporting that some people are actually going door to door and returned residents on their voting history? didn't like ulises, how did you vote for the past? who are you married to? how are they gonna vote? people out to do this? >> i suppose if you are simply not knocking on doors and asking people to voluntarily share formation with you there is nothing that bars that. certain people are not required to answer those questions. but it does have a chilling effect on people that could cause them to stay home from the polls. and that is a worry as well. and not just that you persuade voters to vote for or against a particular candidate. but if you can suppress the vote, that could have a big impact. i know in 2016 at the number of
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voters in detroit who came up for hillary clinton was substantially lower than it been in the past in part it has been attributed to the disinformation campaign that russia did to throw cold water on hillary clinton as a candidate for -- we have a very deliberate effect and asking those kind of questions. but i don't know if it's illegal? >> just got you get that daily dose of this makes no sense. this idea that what if there are delays in election results? it is not delays. the way this process works, tuesday's election day. but in many states, boats can't even be counted until then. and millions of people are voting by mail, are voting absentee, or they're voting early. this will likely take days to get results. that doesn't mean that there is a delay, or there's a problem. that is how the process works. >> no, nor has it ever been a problem or sign of an issue. we have actually never known the full results of election night on election night. ever. to the extent that we have in
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decades past. it's because elections were so far apart that it was easy to call them. now, elections are closer than ever. more people are voting by mail than ever have before. more people are voting have earlier than ever had before. and every state has a different way of calculating and tabulating all of these results. and so, the end results, it is just that counting takes time. and that this is a physical practicality. i, personally, when to some preschool and we are right up against in here. >> carol axles tonight is reporting that house judiciary republicans are coming out with a, right before this, thousand page document tomorrow. that is going to outline how they plan to investigate the fbi, and the department of justice, under biden, if republicans like the house.
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is a white house ready for what is potentially coming at them? >> step, his a great question. and we know that the white house has been preparing for this for various avenues and investigations. we know that they are going to be many different roads that republicans go down when it comes to investigation. the fbi and the justice department is a huge one, that is been a target they've said they're going to try to hit multiple times from various directions. so it is no surprise that those no outlining a roadmap of going to do this. we also know that they are planning -- perhaps others within the family. there's policy issues that they want to investigate, and couldn't withdraw from afghanistan. there's other issues in terms of the military and we had a story about how they're looking to grill the chairman of the joint chief of staff, general
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milley, who's been a sharp critic of former president trump. and their different ways in which he might try to do that. ask things about military readiness, they're looking at the border, there's talk of possibly it cabinet secretary. a paging president by himself. this is going to be a lot, and it is going to be something that the white house is dealing with every day. they've said they've been prepared for this. bringing new lawyers with staff who are dedicated to pushing back on these investigations. and it's going to be a lot. have republicans are making very clear that the market that made it clear that one thing they're going to talk about is if they're going to be an overreach? is there a tipping point? do republicans go too far here would winds backfiring? we don't know, because we don't know exactly what this is going to look like. there's definitely to be a lot of this. >> not a republic, might just be a store in the mall. barr, before i let you go. i would ask about the former president, today judging newkirk signed a court monitor to trump organization. i say this as a huge win for a tish james, and borderline a
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knockout for the trump's. what do you think? >> all this really does is preserve the status quo. on the day that the is james filed the lawsuit. the trump legislation or corporate and organization of the trump organization to. and the concern, i, think very legitimately. is that the simply drain on the front side of the trump organization and move them over to the trump organization to. then, even in this lawsuit is successful. guess what? there are no assets. so, i think this is a great victory. only because it simply preserves the status quo and prevents trump from pulling the rug out from the attorney general. >> to? so there are things butterfly? and if it did, then that's pathetic. >> currently, barbara, jessica who's, man thank you for joining us tonight. later, the breaking news from the nba tonight. the suspension of kyrie irving for us antisemitism. if it enough? but next, a reality check for americans. about their midterm decisions and the economy. why are so many americans
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feeling horrible about the economy? when parts of it her moving for them? my boyfriends back in the little break it all down. the 11th hour just getting underway on your thursday night.
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the economy is, up presentations down, real incomes are up, gas prices are down, and they will come down further. exports are also up.
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which means a simple thing. we're making a lot of money in america. guess what, we are exporting products we've made rather than jobs. >> the economy isn't that simple. five days till americans get their say i know the economy is on many many americans minds. yes, inflation is still high, but here's the thing. resorts like, we are also spending more and we're saving less. let's break this down. who better to do it then my partner, my dearest friend here, fellow msnbc host ali. my brother. i know you get as frustrated as i do every day watching, it's a great economy, it's a terrible economy, it's not looking to me. it's a complicated economy. and i want to talk about when parts of inflation. because months ago i got lit up by fox news when i said, one of the dirty little secrets about inflation is that much of the country can't afford it. we are choosing to pay these higher prices. we have two economies before covid.
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and here we are, peoples white collar jobs. we saved, we work from home. and we're taking a lot of our disposable income and we're spending money. we are choosing to pay. we don't like these high prices but businesses, whether some price gouging, we can't it's all corporate price gouging. we are making the decision in travel, leisure, entertainment. we are paying the surprises. guess what, we have storms recharging crazy high prices and we were spending if they have to lowered. >> which, by the, way is dangerous session. when you raise prices of people -- prices are being raised and that will deter some people responding. in interest rates are being race, which will deter some people from spending. so the net effect to fight inflation is complicated because it will still hurt. the promise that kherson people hurt people who are low income.
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it was people who are fixing come. because the same amount of groceries you buy a costume or. say multiple your tank, all the gas prices been going down costume more. it doesn't cost everybody more. as most of us, if you're wealthy. you're not driving extra. so you can manage that is part of your cost. you can absorb some of these things. and the offset that is that a deployment remains really low, and wages have been going up. it is just the numbers don't even offer everybody, that's the problem. for some people who are struggling to get by it is only worse and it makes it worse. for a lot of people in america, coverage but inflation is playing out on tv. it's playing out in analysis. this played out and campaign ads. because of not buying a house
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we just didn't go up. if not before interest rate snugly appear rates did not go up? you're grocery bills going up. yet you may be earning more yet, the stock market is struggling but will eventuality of a lot. yet there is more manufacturing. there is more exporting. so right, it's complicated, it's too wants. in my child's across america. i'm a parallel of the nuance. i'm hearing messaging about inflation being high and the blame being put on joe biden democrats. >> as good as economically what about americans, as you said. it was bad before covid it's worse now when they say any trouble for something different. this economy isn't working for me. what are they voted for? because joe ministration is adjusting social security above or 8% next year to adjust for inflation. we don't insulin cost being kept. when you're paying out of pocket is kept.
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what do they think they're voting for on the other side? >> no one has an answer. i spoke to conserve economist this weekend was quoted new york times saying, and his republican, the sister is nothing the republicans could do that is different. in fact, the one example of conserve governmental world to decided be in a bit about tackling the economy wasn't uk. that lasted 44 days. because there isn't a different answer, unfortunately. is a tough situation and inflation is difficult because the solution to inflation essential banks raising interest rates. it slows the economy down. it does have the effect, we're seeing that housing right now. it is happening. >> this is what i want to talk about. when the economy slows, which
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is a point of raising rates. it appears everyone. and how some of the best example. when you are, go to you in our covering stories. people said i cannot afford to buy a house. the housing market is so hot i can't buy anything. they couldn't because interest rates were so low it was so cheap to borrow, people were buying vacation houses, investment properties. so now. you raise rates. mortgage rates double, which they did. and home prices slow down so doesn't that balance things? but they don't see it that way. it just wreaking, which i get, it the frequent because on which got mortgages cost twice as much. but we knew this was going to happen. we wanted to improve the housing market. >> the other side of the things the dangerous action. the fed has now four times raising trust rates three quarters of a basis point. remember the history between the two of us who've been covering this for 100 years -- >> you are much older than i am. >> do you remember 75 basis points? they've done it four times in a row. the promise of takes 12 to 18 months. >> i found that happen you had now from wearing the. and >> it takes 12 to 18 months
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to brace -- -- to feel the effects of what interest rate hikes. we've had seven. this could end up on the wrong side. it is a sophisticated and difficult problem. it feels terrible to have the inflation. it feels terrible. this is the worst possible moment you can be in, prices are high, and interest rates are going up. if you are wage earner who borrows money this is as bad as it gets and it is really terrible. my only message to americans out there about the concern about this is that, and say that somebody who evaluates policies on both sides of the political spectrum republicans have no better plan and if you think this is joe biden's fault then joe biden is the president the world because the atlanta tired of nation, mexico has, it the entire eu, the uk, and about 100 other countries have higher inflation than the united states does. so as to believe joe biden is a president of all of it, the democrats when the entire world, which i suspect some people believe. there is not a better plan on the books. it frustrated at the economy, i hear you, you are right. but nobody is offering a better solution. >> here's the problem. explaining this is complicated. when you and i just laid out does live in the campaign our bumper sticker. but republicans who clearly have sliding marketing and
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branding, because the killer, they know people want to be socially free. economically secure, physically safe. and they pray on that fear for fear, and short messaging all day long, every day. >> i've heard working as a travel across america. i've heard people say that resonates with them. that's what the ruling, about what the issues are, and they say most will say the economy. it is often the economy. whether it's good or bad people talk about the economy. and then i asked them, how they are voting, and why they won that way? it is often this thing that i don't think joe biden and democrats have handled the economy really well. >> it is hard and they have done things. including the chips act. which is going to be very very influential because part of the reason most of the inflation you feel today, if by electronics, telephones, refrigerators, dishwashers, cars. semiconductors. you don't manufacture. america >> he just came from
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arizona. phoenix is today's benefit from all of this. it is becoming a tech hub. manufacturing jobs, chip manufacturing. think about all the people who left cities like l. a., san francisco, in new york, during covid and moved to south carolina. to georgia, to arizona. these are the states are saying the economy is so terrible. it is stronger in those places and in lots of other parts of the country. >> when unemployment is low and wages are going up that some people feel. that's actually what is happening america. wages are way up. you guys talk about increasing minimum wage war the damage to it. we do need to. the market did it itself. we know what, the machine got to get a sandwich, it is a bit more expensive. because that's one business owner had to pay extra to hire that person who wanted it. >> how can people keep us in this memo? if you want people to get paid more money the pizzeria that you go to cannot charge to the bucs that size. it would cost for. >> people legitimately angry that companies are making billion dollars. maybe they're nicholas billions of dollars. but your neighborhood business, which is where i feel inflation most. restaurants, take out places but can't staffed or places properly so they pay up. they're trying to pass it on to me. you know what, i don't love it, but it's reality. >> that's also i have to say the economy is complicated. a big businesses that are gouging that up to no good. you cannot compare them to small businesses that are barely making it. >> i struggle to get stuff.
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nearly 17 billion dollars. according to open secrets, that's going to be the total campaign spending for these midterms in 2021 and 2022. the new york times reports much of that cash is coming, surprise, surprise super pacs. only funded by republican mega donor's. consider this, you could've paid for the entire 20 olympics with 15 and a half billion dollars. suit have just under two extra tap on the side. two of our favorite msnbc political analyst are back with us to discuss. juanita tolliver veteran political charges and host of crooked medias. what a day podcast. and matthew dowd, former georgia people strategist and founder of country over party. juanita, almost 17 billion dollars. remember fees we were talking about all those people write a five dollar, checks ten dollar checks. where there was to advance bernie sanders, or donald trump. and they were getting to the
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real americans. those red americans don't total 17 billion dollars. what is election about? who is really controlling it? >> don't scratch the surface subtle. this election is showing that unlimited dark money spending is the structuring within our democracy. it gives the richness of the rich and invisible hand to decide elections and sidestep from the. when emphasizing visible because this money is so hard to track. it passes to organization after organization before it finally landed in the candid spot. that is a problem that can only be confronted, let's be real, campaign finance reforms. caps on spending. had limitations and regulations. and so much more. to ensure that the power actually expects the people. because grassroots fundraising. grassroot donors absolutely can't keep up in this environment. not with 17 billion dollars in
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the ecosystem. >> matthew, nobody is writing checks this big unless you want something major. and you want a major influence in the direction this country is going in. what should we expect? what do you believe is behind all of this money? it is major. >> we already saw in the last few years what was behind the old money. that the large months have been spent the last few years. which the supreme court dominates. that ended up on the court threw campaign contributions and through and known sources of funding for organizations that were just invented. and then senators ended up in trump's pocket. and then ended up in certain supreme court nominees in the course of this. i completely agree with juanita. this is incredibly insidious
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and corrosive to the body politic. it is profoundly, profoundly detrimental to our democracy. in the course of this. i think combined with these large contributions. it's a consultant class. primarily based in washington d. c. that is also part of this who makes money off of this. it is the media consultants, to the advisers, to all that at all sort of things. that is as i said, a crazy cabal. that keeps circulating this. i'm a person that says changing multiple laws. we've tried to change multiple laws along the way. but the first change in laws by this past. the next chainsaws by the super pacs. to me, the best changes transparency. if a billionaire wants to give $50 million to somebody that's okay. let's find who it is because right now there is no transparency in the system and the only way we know that peter thiel gave $10 million to fund
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j. d. vance in ohio. is because the press discovered it along the way. peter thiel opened his big mouth and said this is what i'm doing. there is no question in my mind that j. d. vance, after getting a 10 million dollar contribution from one person, and the course of this race. hose whatever part of his soul is left to peter thiel. >> then, as dark and is corrosive and twisted in damaging as this is. forget what should be done. juanita, is there any significant will to change any of these rules because i don't see anyone making any big moves against it. they all want to raise the money to win. >> i think that is responsive to the system that has been perpetuated, right? they have to stay in the game so this is feeling of i have to be competitive stuff to go out for these types of donors. it is just building on itself right now. and that until something dramatic happens what is the equivalent of an opposite
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decision to citizens united that could happen in order to precipitate some dramatic changes. i don't see it up for front in the near future steph and i think that is going to present a really concerning environment for the 2024 presidential election where we can only expect these numbers to balloon even more. >> the very definition momentum or problems. you topic, matthew. oprah winfrey, tonight, who brought dr. oz to america. has now come out and endorsed his opponent, john fetterman. huge headline, but doesn't move votes in pennsylvania? >> i think, in this case. i'm not one big on endorsements in the final minutes have some red effect on a race. this one, i think it's different, because most people are aware that oprah invented doctor oz and has been a very quiet in the course of this until today. this is a race, in my view. that is going to be decided by a few thousand votes in pennsylvania. which could decide the u.s. senate senate races and who holds the senate. in this case i think oprah coming for fetterman gives him
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a boost in the final 48 hours that he otherwise would not have had. two it is really a slam on doctor oz that she would do this. especially in such a way that she could easily have stayed quiet. but she didn't. she said in the course of this. normally i would say, no real effect in this case and the needs only to move a few thousand votes, which now some people question. whether doctor oz is really who he says he is. and harper comes out against them after having invented him. i think it could have an impact. >> when nato partners came out with their christmas wish lists what do you think? >> those comfortable pajamas are. check that left out. i think this absolutely would have an impact. especially among black and brown voters. who know and love oprah. i think this announcement is not the only thing she does relate to this race. i hope to see her engage with hedman on the trail of the next 3 to 4 days to make it clear, especially in a communities where she is beloved. that she his for fetterman, and
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against odds. and that will absolutely have some degree of impacting turnout in this key race that we know is going to be tight. >> five days to go and we just heard from the big o. juanita and matthew thank you both for joining us tonight. when we come back we're going inside the zoom room with elon musk with a one-on-one with someone who just went one-on-one with a chief tweet about the direction of the company in a speech that is going to be allowed on that platform. when the 11th hour continues. away things. fit together with away things. ♪ ♪ that's our thing. ♪ ♪
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got to be positive, and you've got to be vigilant. so, we're going to take him at his word and hold him accountable. >> the anti-defamation league is just one group concerned about content moderation on twitter after elon musk's takeover. the wall street journal reports general mills, audi and pfizer join the latest companies to temporarily pause advertising on the site. meanwhile, according to an email obtained by abc news, -- it would begin layoffs on friday at a time when one would think they need more health. -- my friend he is one of several
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civil rights leaders who met with elon musk this week, first, welcome i want to know, what happened in this meeting? and are you taking him for real? giving everything you know about him in the past, yes, he showed up and posted this meeting, but is he saving face or does he mean? it >> well, actions speak louder than words. over and over again, we dealt with the social media platforms, these leaders of these platforms had no accountability, no consequences, the incentive structures are broken profit over safety integrity and insecurity. so, absolutely not. i don't take him at his word. i take him at his action. unfortunately, when we left that meeting, he did make three commitments. that he tweeted out. that we didn't talk about, that he tweeted out. and when he responded to the next day we're now watching some of those things start to fall apart. there's no way that you can keep election integrity in place if you are cutting the capacity to actually does the monitoring. there is no way that you can actually not make changes that are gonna impact the election if some of the things that we're hearing or true about allowing for people to have verification without actually
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verifying their identity that the day before the election. so, we have to recognize and i think it's so important that we've kept the heat and the pressure on advertisers. and brands have to make a choice. do they want their legacy do they want their companies next to this? and twitter is different on facebook, stephanie, when we were doing the boycott against facebook, many of these companies really talked about the sort of challenge with leaving facebook, because of its singularity in terms of the impact, the return on investment they would get as advertisers from advertising on facebook. they don't get that from twitter. >> okay, hold on. for years you and i have been talking about for the social media platforms, they're largely on regulated. the huge public squares, but there's no control of what they put out there. go across the street. fox news is across the street, right now at this time, millions of people are tuning in and they're watching a misinformation cannon every
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night. whether it's thinly veiled hate speech or its replacement theory, fearmongering, night after night. what does that do to a culture? to a country? >> it rips us apart. when we don't have information that we can rely on, when disinformation is rampant, when the profit and incentive structure behind it allows it to be amplified at all costs, this is not about freedom of speech, freedom of speech is not the same as amplification. it's not the same as reach. and we have a deep challenge where people are being paid to yell fire in a public square, and not being held accountable for it. you know, one of the things that i worked on over the past year was co-chairing this commission with the aspen institute, with people from the right, people from the center, people from the left. co-chairing this institute of information disorder. >> okay, when you say people from the right, people from the right that are real people from the right? people that are part of fox news that are pushing this? people from the former right? >> people that are from the former right.
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>> that's not the right. >> -- >> that's what makes these commissions, and i'm not insulting your commission, baloney, because that's not the real organization that's pushing this garbage. that's the george bush republicans that are watching this at home, hiding. >> we need more of them to speak up. we need to have -- if these are majority aryan values in this country, we need to unleash and unlock the majority. and far too many people are standing on the sidelines willing to play here no evil, speak no evil, see no evil to exactly what they're seeing. this is exactly why holding advertising -- accountable is so important. this is why the push to call those folks out that sometimes they stay silent because they don't want the attacks. this is why it's going to be incredibly important. if you care about our democracy and you care about making our voices heard, then this is the time. >> here's is on the sidelines tonight, kyrie irving. now suspended for five games, that's gonna cost him about $3 million from the new york nets after he refused to unequivocally say he does not
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have antisemitic beliefs. that's after he posted a link to a movie that was antisemitic. why is this happening? we're not saying to our cultural influencers, shut up and dribble. we want them to influence. harry styles helped people devote, all the celebrities that helped people get people vaccinated. why is this happening? why are these athletes, artists doing this? >> it's costing the money, reputation, brandt? >> and it's wrong. >> and it's wrong. it takes beach. >> beyond whether it's costing people money, the idea that we have a culture where people are profiting off of continue -- and continue to profit off of platforms and more tools and more technology that allows people to amplify, to have information, moving into their in boxes or into their social platforms, that lead us down these roads and that people are not willing to step back and listen and learn the technology that has so much potential to bring us into the future is
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dragging us into the past right now. and it's not by accident. it is being manufactured, and i think unless, until we go deeply upstream both on the public policy side with real accountability on these platforms until we do the work of ensuring enablers, no longer able to do what they're doing by staying silent and profiting off of the information that's flowing. this will continue to get more and more challenging for all of us. and this election is just the lead up to 24. in 2024 we will have more world democracies voting than ever before, from india, to the uk, t e to the united states, to mexico. all having national elections at the same time. and right now, we are supposed to rely on facebook, twitter and google to be able to monitor on their platforms? when they have no incentive, no consequence, no accountability to actually manage it. they can't do it well in english little on all the other languages that will be participating in the elections. we need people to speak up, and we need more engagement, we will lose, we will always lose in the back rooms if people are not lined up at the front door. >> rashad robinson, to all of
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those companies to all of those leaders, wait till you live somewhere with authoritarian regimes. you will be controlling anything. coming up, she has been locked up in russia since february, what we learned about the fight to free brittney griner today. in the 11th hour continues. my asthma felt anything but normal. a blood test helped show my asthma is driven by eosinophils, which nucala helps reduce. nucala is a once-monthly add-on injection for severe eosinophilic asthma.
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tonight, britney griner's perseverance. the state department says u. s. officials met with the wnba star in russia today, spokesperson ned price tweeted this. u.s. embassy officials based in moscow visited britney griner today. they saw firsthand her tenacity and perseverance, despite her present circumstances.
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we continue to press for the immediate release of britney griner and paul whelan in fair treatment for every detained american. this was the first time u.s. diplomats were allowed to see griner since august, she lost her appeal last week, and is facing nine years in appeal colony. remember, she was arrested in february after russian authorities said vape canisters with cannabis oil or found in her luggage. officials tell nbc news, the russians are unlikely to agree to any kind of deal until after the midterms. not wanting to hand to president biden any kind of win. brittani's wife cherelle told the host of the view, about the toll this is taking on both her and britney. >> you know, i keep waking up wanting to say i'm blessed for that, but it's hard. she's my person, we do absolutely everything together, so, it is been really hard trying to adjust. how to live every day without
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your favorite person. we spoke only three times out of the eight month she's been sentenced. and the last time i spoke with her was a week before her appeal. and she said, -- she told me it's not there. i'm really just trying to hold on to the last bit of you that i can remember. she's like my mind is fading in here. it was just so disheartening to hear it. so, yeah. >> vape canister of cannabis oil. nine years. in russia. our thoughts are with britney interaural. tonight, and throughout this difficult time, and i hope yours are too. and on that note, i wish you all a safe and goodnight. from all of our colleagues across the networks of nbc news, thanks for staying up late, i will see you at the end of tomorrow.


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